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Hi Hamster . Nice of you to join us. If you'd like to know a bit more about the site please have a look at our RationalWiki:Newcomers' guide.--Bobbing up 13:10, 21 November 2008 (EST)

Hey another old codger like me! You're doubly welcome.--Bobbing up 13:25, 21 November 2008 (EST)
Thanks Hamster 13:39, 21 November 2008 (EST)

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I am stunned honored to be appointed Master of all I see bucket boy and will try not to mess up the front page. er, by the way , where IS the front page ? Hamster 00:32, 3 December 2008 (EST)
Human wants to revert some pointless page blankings so we have blanked it for him. - User ${\displaystyle \scriptstyle 4\sum _{n=0}^{\infty }(-1)^{n}(2n+1)^{-1}}$ 00:36, 3 December 2008 (EST)

## Hello brother

Hello, Maybe we could form a nest? (But a very butch heterosexual one of course.)--Herbert the Hamster 18:04, 4 December 2008 (EST)

## See you

I hope things are OK. Come back and say hi when life allows it, maybe. Šţěŗĭļė Pontiac 17:58, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

## Good luck

Good luck with that young lady needing attention. If you need anything, feel free to hit me up. I can only pay forward the courtesy and support this community has offered me in the past. Punky Your mental puke relief 06:34, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

## 127.0.0.1

I block 127.0.0.1 when I have nothing better to do, not for any particular reason other than boredom. --GastonRabbit (talk) 01:37, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

## w

I moved your new draft to a subpage of the main article, because that's how people normally do that kind of thing. I hope that makes sense. -- Mei (talk) 19:11, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

excellent - thanks
I created a {{wp}} type box, but we don't have an appropriate logo and I can't find it on CAWiki. -- Mei (talk) 19:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
thanks , I will ask the other wiki for their logo Hamster (talk) 22:44, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

## Why/how did you do it?

Why/how did you make the words on the DMCA guy's talkpage smaller? I demand an explanation for such a cool effect! LimpWrist (talk) 06:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I messed up the end tag in my comment small comment text and back to normal Hamster (talk) 06:36, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Nice! I'll have to remember how to do that for later. LimpWrist (talk) 06:37, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Its the opposite of which make bigger text cool

## God damnit man!

You'll just fucking confuse him! I have been cultivating this for some time now. Damn it, you know how hard it is to get him to focus on a single topic. Acei9 06:22, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

That is the problem I use to have when arguing with Ken over there. Once I had him cornered, other people would come along with their pet gripes and give him an out. - π 06:33, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Pi, That is exactly what I meant. Acei9 07:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

## Oh yeah.....

I sent you an email. Acei9 00:00, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

## ...

I can't deal with the twistedness of ASK this week. PJR and apparently Bradley live in their own, isolated world. Sterile Pontiac 12:52, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I lost track of how many times this same discussion has happened , it never seems to change :( Hamster (talk) 14:00, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm half tempted to write an essay on "the intellectual dishonesty of PJR's creationism" here, but it's not worth it. Perhaps we're at the last exodus, and PJR and Bradley can stare at each other making their personal wiki regurgitating CMI. I can't imagine how long Philip can afford to keep it on-line. Sterile Pontiac 15:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I was curious at the appearance of the couple new names. Was entertaining but then same-old. Hamster (talk) 16:23, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Hosting only gets cheaper. You can keep a wiki with no readers up for bloody ever - David Gerard (talk) 16:25, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I wonder how long the ERV references will last. Sterile Pontiac 12:55, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

creation science has the answer to ervs. http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/arj/v1/n1/microbes-days-of-creation :) Hamster (talk) 15:50, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Wait a second... there's an implicit denial of the Germ Theory in that article. ERVs create or "are" viruses? Excuse me, wha? By definition they are now encapsulated in the genome of the host animal, and thus no longer "viruses", which is why we have to make the distinction that they are ERVs. I do love though that apparently these ERVs are not "new information" that an offspring would have that their parents do not... because that would violate the principles that genetic modification cannot produce new information. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 17:58, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
creation science at it's best. I sometimes wonder how good an eduction you ned to identify the mistakes . Hamster (talk) 16:06, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
I think it's less so about education level. There is a lot of study into pedagogy that suggests that the vast majority of people hear educating text, and simply use it to reaffirm their existing beliefs. Namely, that people actually do the fucked up backwards science that we constantly jab creationists with not through malicious intent, but just because that's how the typical human appears to be set up. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 17:42, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes. Thinking in science is hard for savannah apes. We only bother at all because it's spectacularly successful - David Gerard (talk) 17:45, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

## Hamster vs. Cake

I wish to debate you regarding the recipes of Hamster vs. Cake. Hamster actually doesn't have any flour in it. But the interesting question is, since cake is mostly just sugar, beaten eggs, and milk, couldn't it be said that a cake is simply Hamster + flour and baking? --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 03:19, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

If you add just a small amount of flour it firms up the Hamster slightly and keeps it from softening in the heat. Its a pastry chef type of trick to keep things good in varied temperatures. Its a little bit like a pastry cream thats made with flour. Addd more flour and bake in a water bath and you get something more cake like. This was on a cooking show recently. You are right about the Hamster / flour etc = cake.
Ah yes... I definitely could have used that when I tried to make my mint chocolate-chip Hamster. I whipped the eggs up to soft peaks, whipped the whipped cream, and turned to look at the eggs, and they had already fallen. Took them forever to even get to soft peaks in the first place. I should have known better... another trick, I know of is to use corn starch, this adds less flavor per stabilizing unit, and is actually why they recommend to use confectioner's sugar, because it has corn starch to prevent caking. But you're pretty much right on the dot, if I added flour and cooked a Hamster, I would get a cake. :) Have you tried frozen Hamster? It's awesome. It doesn't require constant churning like ice cream does, because it's stable on its own, however it comes out significantly more fluffy than creamy, and melts super fast. But still a big yum! (For the record, me vs. Hamster right now is 5 to 1... Hamster's favor. :( I totally get why some people just go with flavored whipped cream, and call it Hamster.) --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 07:53, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Then what the hell is a flourless chocolate cake? I always viewed it as a wet but firm souffle. ÑR/Señor Admin/¡hablen ustedes! 17:49, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, a Hamster isn't cooked. Reading a recipe for soufflés the differences are: you beat the eggs to stiff peaks instead of just soft peaks. You cook it. :) So, yes, a flourless chocolate cake would be a soufflé, which if uncooked, would be a Hamster. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 19:53, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
you need to be careful with whipping eggs with an electric mixer , its easy to get them warm. Sitting the mixing bowl in a bed of ice can be a big help if your kitchen is not cool. I have a Kitchaid mixer with a whip for that sort of thing. Is a pain cleaning the bowl though. A flourless chocolate cake ? sounds wierd ? I get hit for calling stuff souffle, but hey if its beaten eggs what else is it ? Hamster (talk) 19:57, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Also, avoid doing it when it's 80-90° out... unless you have some good air conditioning/swamp cooling. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 20:10, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Why would you cook a small, innocent mammal?! You cruel, cruel bastards. ;___; Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 20:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

## Sir

You are a bigot. As an umpire of this site I am directing you to either substantiate your bigoted claim or withdraw it and apologize to those poor creationist peer reviewers who've signed on to a Statement of Faith and can't help themselves for being liars. Or you will be blocked. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 00:00, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

I love how PJR can perform character attacks at will at his blog while no one else can. What an asshole. sterile Pontiac 00:19, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
but they are not character attacks when Phil does them. I will never use the terms 'real geologist' and 'tas walker' in the same sentance. ! AWC deserves a medal I think :) Hamster (talk) 00:35, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

## Hey buddy

Sorry you hear your dad is having a hard time. Hope your family is doing Ok. Be well. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 04:10, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

## Just saying hi

Hope things are going OK. steriletalk 01:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

thanks yes , as well as can be expected with parents in the 80s. Giving aSK a break for my health. Hamster (talk) 03:36, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
You got your bucket back. WëäŝëïöïďMethinks it is a Weasel 14:14, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
thanks Hamster (talk) 16:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

## Nomination

Y'all been nominated for Moderator. Please to go here to accept or decline. Aboriginal Noise Theist, barely hanging by a nail 14:37, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

## Swearing

I dislike aggresive swearing. I don't mind swearing when it is done in a friendly or flippant manner. That said, different people have different standards. If you are a guest in someone else's home, if you know they have an objection to swearing, you respect that. Yet, you swear on aSK? You can have whatever opinion you want of Philip or anyone else, but when you express it by swearing, you just make yourself look bad. (((Zack Martin))) 06:13, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

be specific . — Unsigned, by: Hamster / talk / contribs
"a lying sack of shit"?img (((Zack Martin))) 07:36, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
If you are a guest in someone else's home, if you know they have an objection to swearing, you respect that.. Ace of Spades 07:28, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
And the point is.... ? Be specific. (((Zack Martin))) 07:38, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm just wondering if "lying sack of shit" is actually "swearing". It's certainly abusive and hyperbolic but is it technically "swearing"?--BobSpring is sprung! 08:28, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Well, the original meaning of swearing was taking God's name in vain, e.g. God damn you!. The meaning in English has shifted; it no longer principally refers to that, but rather refers to the use of shit and a number of similar words. Obviously when I say "swearing", I mean it the contemporary English sense, not in the historical sense of the word. (((Zack Martin))) 08:50, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
you and Philip should get along well. You both seem to redefine terms to suit yourself. Common english states invective as swearing and nothing I typed fits that definition. Please stop messing on my talk page. Thanks bye. Hamster (talk) 15:47, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Wiktionary, defines "swear" as (sense 2) "To use offensive language." It is a well-known fact that the word "shit" is commonly considered offensive in English, especially among more conservative types (which defines Philip and co). Offensive language can be invective, but isn't necessarily (it can also be neutral or even friendly). Sorry, we don't redefine words, you do. (((Zack Martin))) 09:27, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
I asked you politely to stop spreading your crap on my talk page, please desist. Hamster (talk) 13:55, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

## You're just jealous

that there are no hamsters in Maratreanism. (Or mayber there are and I just don't know it.) steriletalk 14:36, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

you missed Hama, the god who is a hamster, the hamster who is a god. Also Terror Hama, 7 cubits tall with fangs 1 cubit long who waits in a cave for the final battle where he will carry many on his back into battle and nip the ankles of the unworthy. Hamster (talk) 16:15, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
I left my cubitmeter at work, dammit. steriletalk 00:17, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
I would assume hamsters have no souls. I am not aware of any reason to think that they do. I may be wrong, however... (((Zack Martin))) 09:45, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Hamsters, not User:Hamster, that is. (((Zack Martin))) 09:45, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Jesus, do you comment on everything, everywhere? You're an annoying version of Human. steriletalk 00:09, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Dammit now I have to photoshop cocks on to pictures of hamsters. When will the madness end?! 00:26, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

## Be my agent ?

Hi, I would appreciate it if you could be my agent representing me to Tolerance. He seems easily confused or just doesnt understand cat. I makes a double entendre and he ignores it ! I think I could be Goddess of erotic things because I am after all a pussy cat. Let me know and you get 10% as commision. What do you think of a movie , Terror Taba and Terror_trinka star as Batman and Catwoman. ? That last actress to play me did not have a great tail. Terror Trinka (talk) 04:14, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

You could learn to spell your own name. TRINCA. (((Zack Martin))) 07:28, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

## Maybe

there's a way to get Philip's post hoc rationalizations of information to circle back on themselves. That would be fun. steriletalk 02:56, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

I would help you out but I got another year of ban left. Aceace 03:11, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
You can use my Maratrean account. I ran out of meth amphetamines and can't pull off those 8k walls of text anymore. It also just felt dirty impersonating a mentally I'll person. Let me know. 05:00, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Methamphetamine is one word, and it's singular. Get it straight, shit-head. steriletalk 03:02, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Getting feisty, eh? steriletalk 02:05, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
I fail to understand anyone with his head so far up his ass. Philip is also an apostate to the christian faith, it peeves me ;-) Hamster (talk) 07:17, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
So you're joining my "shower him with scientific papers" campaign? I love the "just a hypothesis" comment he gave me! steriletalk 00:01, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Philip wants to know about feathers so I gave him a nice pdf file ;-). Is it my imagination or is Awc getting snarkier lately ? cant blame him after some of PJRs latest Hamster (talk) 00:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
His latest gibberish is particularly weird and dishonest. Aceace 00:43, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Oh, yeah--I'm proud of Awc-dude. He's been so patient.steriletalk 00:44, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Indeed, I could only manage a year before calling him a cunt. Aceace 00:53, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Awckie used the word garbage. Any minute he'll be cursing. steriletalk 16:48, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
I am shocked by Awcs language. What has happened to our favorite mild mannered, understanding Awc. ? Hamster (talk) 00:56, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

## HA!

Like. steriletalk 05:30, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

hehehe, at least someones reading aSK. Philip seems to have lost interest. Hamster (talk) 06:25, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Good riddance of that idiot fucktard. steriletalk 03:55, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

## Heart surgery

Best of luck and get well soon. Тyeh? 02:11, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Godspeed. P-Foster Talk ""Santorum is the cream rising to the top."" 02:17, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Actually came back long enough to wish you good luck. Feel honoured! --Kels (talk) 02:24, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Take care yo! And Kels, fuck, hey there stranger. AceModerator 03:32, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey, Hamster. Do your best to take care of yourself. Drop us a line when you can, and I hope it all works out. steriletalk 04:45, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Good luck mate, keep in touch with the gang! Sophiebecause liberals (formerly Totnesmartin) 07:54, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
My thoughts are with you. Sure everything'll go fine. Let us know when you're back. El TajDon't make me do stuff 09:52, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Good luck!! If it's any consolation, my old man's just had a quintuple bypass op and 4 weeks later, he's better than ever. --PsyGremlinTala! 10:50, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Hamsters take a licking and keep on ticking. See you soon. 12:54, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Best Wishes for a speedy recovery! Take Care & Much Love, Refugeetalk page 20:36, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
If there isn't enough heart left, have them rework a kidney! Best of luck with a successful operation and a speedy recovery. ħuman 22:57, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Thinking of you - hope it went well. hugs! Refugeetalk page 15:42, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

### thanks

I am now home full of scars from various things. I have a big scar down my chest and four bullrt hole scars. They took stuff from one leg. If nothing messess up in the next 3 months it may turn out good. So happy belated easter to everyone. Hamster (talk) 04:22, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Good to hear. Look forward to seeing you back in action! Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 04:34, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Awesome news. Post pics of the scars. P-Foster Talk "The existing superstructure has handed out crumbs. We don’t want crumbs; we want the whole loaf now.” --Ras Frank I 17:43, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Great news, mate! Sophiebecause liberals 18:10, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm glad to hear it Hamster. I sorta poked Philip this week, but it's not the same there without you :) steriletalk 05:24, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Hiya Hamster! Happy to hear it turned out ok! How're you doing now? Refugeetalk page 06:57, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

## So, are you back then?

At least on a part time basis? Awc finally ditched Philip, so guarddog is all that keeps Philip company at the moment. sterileevolutionist story telling 05:58, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

I am on the internet about 30 minutes a day. Doing my physical therapy and sleeping takes the rest ;) I am soooo bored with the limits of what I am allowed to do and its months yet before that changes. I read aSK to see what PJR is up to. Glad to see Awc said things and left. Hamster (talk) 18:08, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Good to see you around, Hamster. Hope you survive the boredom! Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 19:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
I'm glad to see you're on the mend. You're my favorite critter! 20:10, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Glad you're on the mend. sterilesporadic heavy hitter 10:42, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

## Come on dude

You're essentially feeding a troll. He's incapable of reasoned discussion. You're wrong. He's right. Please let his blog die. 21:29, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Oh jesus more of this "if you don't believe in god you have on basis for saying what is good and bad" nonsense. AWC had the good sense to just let a hopeless discussion go while you were gone. 21:36, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
sorry I just could not resist after seeing his edit. I am gone from there now. Hamster (talk) 00:47, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
I am gone from there now. Yeah, let's have a reunion here if we need to. We can get the whole gang together, maybe even LK. sterilesporadic heavy hitter 02:07, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
YOU SUCK STERILE. 02:15, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
Sheesh. Critics. sterilesporadic heavy hitter 02:16, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
I wondered if the Maratrean pantheon could make an appearance at aSoK in honor of Zachy but Philip has some strange userid blocking happening. Hamster (talk) 02:25, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
I can only arrange for a portion of their appearances here, although I could prod them to attempt to make accounts. Claretta does have an account over there, right? sterilesporadic heavy hitter 02:29, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
The problem with talking to Maratrean is that it prolongs his going away. 02:34, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
That's OK. I'm animating molecules using Avagadro, Blender and Gimp. Crazier animations than before. sterilesporadic heavy hitter 02:50, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Please don't, Hamster! Please let him be the only person stomping around in his echo chamber. 00:26, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

## sorry

New tablet & big fingers. Scream!! (talk) 00:18, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

## Wow

He's ANGRY. No one to yell at for months, I guess. How are you, anyway? talk 02:44, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

I hate you all. Oh and hey Hammy. Glad to see you. You were in Austin?! My hometown! 03:35, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
I am doing fairly well, better since winter ended :-) I dont plan on continuing with Asok , just could not resist a poke at PJR. I was amazed his site was taken down for overloading the server. He claims the web crawlers killed it. Hamster (talk) 06:08, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
er who is he mad at now ? not me surely, although I do have that effect on some people ;-) I am sure its ACE. Maybe he didnt like the comment on a federal judge ruling ID as creationism ? Hamster (talk) 06:13, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Yeah I saw my block had ended so thought I would give him a little poke also. Heh. Acei9 07:38, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
He's probably on a limited bandwidth plan, so it's entirely possible that the webcrawlers are causing trouble, but it's not "overloading" the server, it's overloading his cheapo plan. My AWstats logs reflect that webcrawlers constitute a large percentage of my traffic. I am, however, on Linode :-) I can understand the issue; it's probably not what he said. 14:43, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
when I set up my first web site the hosting company gave me a robots.txt file and some hints on keeping google bots under control. Hamster (talk) 14:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

## Unacceptable

Friends don't let friends.... talk 01:46, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

its all Aces fault ;-) Hamster (talk) 05:25, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
hehehe we edited the site more than PJR ! oops Hamster (talk) 05:54, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
We should send all the folks that think the universe is fine-tuned to the moon and see how they do. talk 22:51, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

FYI; Essay:Why the "fine-tuned_universe" argument is bogus talk 19:57, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

I like how Larry Moran has been promoted to prominent creationist just so that he can be quoted (and mined as such as a comment on a blog on top of that) in Philip's article thereby fallaciously using argument from authority while meanwhile, any discussion about observations (ie, what a scientific argument ought to be about) is ignored. Gold star for Philip! talk 11:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
I thought Moran was the dedicated atheist scientist who had to admit creation was true because ... something. The way I read the document used for that quote he seems to say no such thing. I could be wrong though. PJR wrote a lengthy rebuttal to my quote mine accusation. Hamster (talk) 01:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Pffft. There's no such thing as a creationist quote mine in PJRworld. And all's fair in character attacks on evolutionists. talk 01:47, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I wonder if it's ever occurred to Sir Philip that ALL of creationist is against the laws of physics, and even if we accept Davie's argument that information increase is against the laws of physics (undeveloped at all; simply asserted on ASK, and wrong certainly in a Shannon sense and even in a qualitative), the problem is far worse for creationism. talk 14:56, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

I dont think he gets that far. Oh gee, I see he has made more edits.. I wish he would quit and let the site stagnate, now I should read what he wrote... the stupid , it burns .. hehehehe . Hamster (talk) 15:41, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I don't think he'll stop until the internet stop talking to him. After all, he gets to PWN it everytime. talk 16:17, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

## What Philip feels like

Scott Adams got the sex wrong, but otherwise, it's accurate: [1] talk 10:25, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

theree is worse , try this guy if you want utter stupidity Hamster (talk) 22:24, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
If I'm responsible, I apologize for getting us sucked in there. Although, I call getting a quote from someone creationist-friendly showing that creationists contradict other creationists into an article to be all-win. talk 21:12, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
I love ya, buddy. But I hate you for getting me looking at that shit show again. 22:20, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
you can stop now. I think everyone told Philip off and left ;-) Hamster (talk) 23:11, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
He's been in really rough shape for the last year or so. That 119k wall of text on his WP page was alarming. He's basically alienated every single person who was willing to give him any charity. Hamster, I've talked to Sterile about this, but I'm curious what your take on him is. He doesn't tell the truth. Do you think he does it because he's brainwashed by his cult or because he's a liar. i've caught him out lying at least once. I think others have too. But generally - do you think he really believes this shit? 01:09, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
I have taken it as a combination of several things. Lack of science education in high school, religious views and his character. By character I mean his tendancy to pick the big picture apart and focus on each tiny bit, regardless of it making a difference or not. He shows a complete distrust of science and falls back on a few creationist websites and people. His behavior to me on occasion is very close to putting your fingers in your ears and saying "pardon me , but I didnt hear that , lalalalala" .
I think I am giving it a rest. I sometimes wonder how close to breakdowns people are, and PJR does not seem that stable. I have always wondered if Lowkey is real or a PJR puppet.
That 119k wall of text on his WP page was alarming. do you have a link ? I don't remember that Hamster (talk) 03:45, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
If PJR were an atheist he'd be a colossal doucebag about it too. It's his character - he is a monumental asshole. Acei9 03:48, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
WP link: [2] talk 12:28, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
And, yeah, he's painted himself into his own corner of the wikisphere because no one can stand him, and he can't even attract anyone that will go along with him in his own space. I have to read the WP page on delusions. talk 12:34, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
That poor guy thought it would be interesting to talk to Philip. I've been reading up on cults in the last week. CMI and AiG seem to fit the bill pretty well. Maybe I'll write it up. 13:11, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Hammy, just look here generally to see what the guy was putting up with - 6-12k posts filled with TQs. After a while, Philip was ignored or simply shut down when he was pressing some nonsense on the Expelled page. Sterile's got it. Nobody wants to talk to or hear from him. I have no idea what compels any of us to want to be anywhere near such a dishonest prick. 13:13, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
He really is an unbelievable dick. The guy came over as a christian to discuss something and the discussion devolved into Philip questioning his faith. 13:20, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

You have to remember this is someone who has wiki for which the premise is faith is evidence. I mean, there have been paragraphs as well as walls of text in which he talks himself into contradictions. He's identified fallacies in one sentence just to use them in the next. This is someone who has spent years telling Awc and me he'd defined information, yet he couldn't tell me where and he couldn't repeat it, and outright rejected the lack of "nothingness" in the face of multiple sources. He'd be a great case study in cognitive dissonance, which is probably why he is so nasty. talk 13:57, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

I remember catching him lying about a resolution somehow being evidence of bias or discrimination against creationists or some such nonsense. He seems to think that all he has to do is deny that he intended to speak a falsehood, despite defending it to the death, even after being shown it was incorrect, and then bully the editor with a demand for "retraction" and apology. That seems to me to not only be the essence of deceit in this context, but particularly nasty deceit. He is never wrong. 16:34, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
good greif, that wikipedia thing is like the worst of aSoK in one huge wall of text. Hamster (talk) 17:36, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Seriously. Talk about depraved. That guy couldn't concede that the sky is blue. 17:46, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, remember when he was presented with six or seven quote mines, about which he argued what the definition of quote mining is? talk 18:04, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Creationist weasel words and characterizations MUST BE USED. [3] talk 16:58, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

We should stop. You're just empowering him to keep his encyclopedia up and fight off evil ones. talk 21:30, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

ok, ;-) if you dont think we should bring purpose to PJR life. Hamster (talk) 21:37, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
You're going to wake up one day and find him on the news and it's not going to be pretty. talk 22:48, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
he does not seem as bad as atheismexamined on youtube. and he is in Australia. When do you think Ace is gonn get banned again ? Awc is more likely to attack PJR, he is getting more snarky and less polite after every exchange ;-) Hamster (talk) 00:15, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
I dunno. Acey hasn't said enough to really get blocked, and Awcky is still more polite than the rest of us. I'm just tired of Philip's fantasy world, I guess. talk 01:49, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

## "after I had the stroke..."

May I ask? How old were you? PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?. 03:27, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

you may indeed ask. I would have been about 52. Hamster (talk) 04:15, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

## Just a friendly reminder

Thanks for writing the Maximized Living article. Please remember to include wikilinks in new articles and also update other pages in order to link to the new article. Rand0 (talk) 04:37, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

## Cite this

talk 23:17, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Cited. Acei9 00:04, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

## Sorry

Apparently I'm a failure at edit conflicts, since an edit conflict caused me to accidentally delete your last Saloon Bar post. My apologies for that. I rolled back my failure of an edit as soon as I noticed my mistake. - GrantC (talk) 16:11, 17 October 2013 (UTC) Not to worry, my posts are mainly crap anyway. Thanks for fixing it though ;-) Hamster (talk) 21:34, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

## Funeral Songs

Hello! I had a listen to the Annie Lennox song but it was too sad. I hope funeral songs isn't a horrible way to say hello. But I thought I'd share that Turn, Turn, Turn (Chris deBurgh cover) is on my funeral song list. Hopefully neither of us will need them soon & I hope your heart is getting better :-) --Barryjon (talk) 23:48, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

## Hey buddy

Thinking of you.

16:45, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

not quite sure its a compliment but thanks , a lovely piped merengue ? Hamster (talk) 20:34, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

## PJR

talk 12:50, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

## ASoK

Good grief - is Phil's little vanity project still going? How have you not headdesked yourself to death yet? --PsyGremlinFale! 06:54, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

the absurdity flourishes. We took a break for 6 months. Hamster (talk) 07:16, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Urgh. Just saw all PJR's green ink on the Homosexuality talk page - the bit about citations - and remembered why I haven't been there for ages. He might have been the most reasonable CP admin, but he's still a terrible human being. --PsyGremlinPraat! 10:54, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Nah, he's a puppy. But I think we're all getting tired and ready for a break. talk 14:32, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

## "Lane v. Sabine Parish School Board"

Ain't nothin' what links to that article you wrote. PowderSmokeAndLeather (talk) 16:16, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

## Autopatrol

Inquiring about the reason for this. Frostbyte (talk) 03:02, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Noted. Was unfamiliar with the term of art and assumed it was negative. Grazie.

## THANKS

... for autopatrolling me! Spaceboyjosh (talk) 04:04, 1 March 2014 (UTC)