Hidden Hand

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The world may soon resemble Jonestown if a sick Illuminati plan to "harvest" souls in 2012 comes to pass. On Oct. 18-24, 2008, a person claiming to be a "generational member of a Ruling Bloodline family" appeared on abovetopsecret.com forum. Using the moniker "Hidden Hand," he gave a convincing explanation of the demented Cabalistic beliefs motivating the Illuminati. He described how they find this dimension ("Third Density") to be "very constricting and uncomfortable" and want to be united with Lucifer ("the One" the "Creator.") This will require an apocalyptic human sacrifice or "harvest of souls" in 2012.
Henry Makow in 2008[1]

Hidden Hand is or was a pseudonymous self-proclaimed Illuminati insider and Earthly representative of Lucifer, who, on the web forum Above Top Secret for a week in 2008, made claims and answered questions on a bunch of conspirituality topics under said pseudonym. Hidden Hand is among the more successful such online personalities in the genre, in terms of gaining a following and being widely read after such a brief appearance; the hoax was apparently quite a hit.

Hidden Hand (hereafter HH) refers to and builds on the Ra Material or Law of One, among other things, while turning things around in a different direction. "Lucifer" is claimed to be a sixth-density social memory complex (a kind of group soul), in Ra's terms, and buddies with that of Ra yet distinct from it. Curiously, Lucifer is said to be the group soul of those from Venus, while Ra as channeled in the 1980s also claimed to be the group soul of those from Venus; this apparent contradiction is left unresolved.

The dialogue[edit]

Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered.

I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say.[2]

HH displays psychological cunning in the way that the messages in the forum conversation are written, in setting the tone and then laying out rules of engagement, in appealing to well-established tropes, and requesting that expressions of disbelief be withheld and people suspend judgment until the conversation is over. The obliging conspiracy theorist crowd quickly began to help build the sort of reading together with HH which makes it easy for those who want to believe to sustain a suspension of disbelief. After it got going, HH further flattered the crowd.

I chose Above Top Secret, as the general level of intelligence, comprehension and reasoning is reckoned to be higher than in many such forums.
—Hidden Hand[2]

The Family[edit]

HH claims to be a member of "the Family", which consists of smaller houses and bloodlines, and in the whole of which all marriages are arranged and outsiders are never included. This has apparently been the case ever since prehistoric times, maintained to the present, all across the world. And naturally, the prominently placed people of the Family wielding influence all around the world are largely unknown to the people and not the figures usually thought to be the most powerful.

Basically, the Family rules the world because it was given the mission of doing so by a higher god, and absolutely everything they do is done because it is their divine duty to do it. They always simply obey in all they do, throughout their lives, for the highest good. It's all part of the grand intelligent design for this world.Do You Believe That?

But why? Supposedly the lowly planetary designer Yahweh created an inefficient world in terms of spiritual evolution because he left free will for humanity out, so Lucifer and other parts of the heavenly bureaucracy sent a team to the rescue, to help humanity evolve by giving them the choice of being negative or "evil". Compared to the Ra Material, this version of Earth history sticks closer to the Bible in describing humanity's plight, in order to then turn things around and say that the ultimate baddies are here to help.

Our Creator, is the one you refer to as 'Lucifer', "The Light Bearer" and "Bright and Morning Star".

Our Creator is not "The Devil" as he has been spuriously portrayed in your bible. Lucifer is what you would call a "Group Soul" or "Social Memory Complex", which has evolved to the level of the Sixth Density, which in effect, means that he (or more accurately "'we") has evolved to a level sufficient that he (we) has attained a status equal or arguably 'greater' than that of Yahweh (we have evolved higher than him). In appearance, were you to gaze upon Lucifer's fullest expression of our Being, the appearance would be that of a Sun or a "Bright Star". Or, when stepping down into a 3rd Density vibration, we would appear as what you may term an 'Angel' or 'Light Being'.[2]

"We do it because we love you"[edit]

A core idea in HH's teaching is that all these shadowy secretive high-level conspirators, plotting to increase negativity and suffering and mayhem on Earth, are doing it out of love for us. It's a little like an abuser saying, "this hurts me more than it hurts you", but not exactly the same. They suffer and struggle to be nasty sorts, but not on an Earthly level where they rather like it, but on a higher level where all is just and loving and moving towards all ultimately turning out well for all, whether soon or after more cosmic cycles.

Understand, that we HAVE to be Negative. That's what we were sent here to be. It is our contract, and it has always been to help you, by providing the "Catalyst" I spoke of earlier. Being Negative is very hard for us, not on a physical level, (the characters we play enjoy our roles, as we're programmed that way), but on a Spiritual level, it is hard. We surpassed the lowly negative vibrations eons ago. We are Light, and we are Love. It is a very hard thing for us to do Spiritually, to create all this Negativity, but we do it because we love you, and it is for your highest good, ultimately. You could say, that it is our Sacrifice that we have made, in order to be of Service to the One Infinite Creator, and to you, our Brothers and Sisters in the One.[2]

Apparently, in order to succeed in helping us all – out of love, naturally – they must create a whole lot of negativity on Earth, to the extent of inspiring lots of people to "progress" into truly deep negativity and ascend to a negative higher realm, where a new negative Earth will be created, a terrible world for terrible beings who live there to take being terrible to a whole new level. Thereafter, a full long cycle of cosmic spiritual evolution later, all will be fine and well.

Of course, people could instead choose the opposite, and become such that they truly have it in them to create a heavenly new Earth of love and greatness, living there in the spirit of Jesus and even performing all manner of miraculous feats, but HH claims that such an alternative will be far less popular. Moreover, echoing the Ra Material (from which most of HH's concepts of spiritual evolution have been lifted), most people are pretty apathetic and will neither become angelic nor demonic, but rather just fail to become much of anything, and thereafter repeat history in a long series of new incarnations.

There's an obvious problem with this three-way millennialist rapture fantasy, though – in both versions, the Ra version and the HH version, and also various other similar visions that have been spread on the web. Nothing happened around 2012, and the other big predictions were also bogus. History simply goes on, and no one went poof. The world didn't die either, it'll just get a little bit rougher ahead with global warming and such.

Failed predictions[edit]

Beyond the lack of a splitting of the world and its inhabitants into different realms around 2012 or so, HH was off to a good start as a failed prophet much sooner. HH predicted that with the then-ongoing 2008 financial crisis, shortly afterwards there would be far worse financial mayhem, including the replacement of the old US dollar as currency, and a new "Union of Nations" would also come about. Thereafter even more dramatic things were soon to arrive, with disruptive solar activity and dramatic rises in sea level beginning as early as 2010. As for more local mayhem, "San Francisco and Damascus, will be uninhabitable by the end of 2010, possibly even sooner."

There will be dramatic changes to your climate and weather conditions over the next few years, as the time of the Great Harvest approaches. You will see windspeeds surpassing 300 miles per hour at times. There will be raging tsunamis and widespread devastation; and a solar emission in late 2009 early 2010 that will cause major melting of the ice caps, and subsequent drastic rise in sea levels, leaving many (international) metropolitan areas underwater.[2]

In the usual New Age manner, however, there's a catch-all explanation offered for why some things may be wrong in the predictions made. "Again, it depends upon certain 'forces' at play, and which timelines are activated. […] Thought is creative energy, focused. You get exactly what you put out." Humanity is apparently creating the world it is living in with all its problems by being focused on what it's focused on, at the level of what people fill their minds with, and the Family makes extensive use of the mainstream media to make the world as negative as possible in order to create the negative future they want. Kind of, if it ends up better for humanity at large then it can be explained as humanity having been too positive to make the dreams of the Family come true.

Some who believe in the Mandela effect suggest that HH may have been right in the prediction about the three-way reality split, and that we in this reality – having all failed to ascend either way – are now all on a replica Earth instead of the original, sloppy copying (or maybe intentional alteration) explaining the Mandela effect.[3][4]

Imitators and their spin-offs[edit]

There have been plenty of others on web forums making grand claims about belonging to various clandestine and/or sinister groups, though often they're unsuccessful in convincing their audience and may mainly end up being questioned and mocked.[note 1] However, there have been at least two online characters who've tried somewhat successfully to imitate or follow up on Hidden Hand's dialogue, claiming to represent groups similarly in the know, with privileged access to related information. (It's not certain that they and Hidden Hand are all truly separate persons.)

Wes Penre, who runs the website Illuminati News and has compiled the discussions held by these characters into articles, has written about Hidden Hand and others from the perspective of a believer.[6]

Imitation also likely goes the other way; there have been similar discussions and "revelations" prior to HH in 2008. A more purely conspiracy-focused "ruling bloodline member" question and answer session (which seems to have become less of a lasting hit) was held by "Insider" on the web forum Godlike Productions in 2005.[7]


Roughly a year later, another member of Above Top Secret called Illuminator13 claimed to be in the know and, if not in the Family itself, then at least in touch with it, and had a follow-up dialogue of sorts.[8] However, Illuminator13 seems to have had a less compelling message (in substance as well as in style), meeting with a more negative and incredulous response, and being mocked for his bad grammar and spelling. The discussion is meandering and lacks a clear central point.

Eracidni Murev Te[edit]

This character (who used et verum indicare backwards for a handle), appeared roughly 10 years after Hidden Hand, this time on the web forum Godlike Productions. Holding a discussion somewhat like that of Hidden Hand, Eracidni Murev Te (hereafter EMT) denied being the same person when asked about it, while claiming to be from a differently-oriented organization that is more engaged in record-keeping than in politics and influencing the world, and not tasked with making the world more negative. Apparently, the Family of Hidden Hand is the "counterpart" of this other, smaller organization, which also doesn't have Lucifer as its group soul but rather another one.[9][10]

According to EMT, the plans of the sinister Family failed, life on Earth becoming more positive rather than more negative. When the discussion was held in 2018, most people on Earth had supposedly graduated into a positive fourth-density Earth–– ascending that way over time, in a mostly invisible way, and people supposedly already experiencing and sharing love in ways the world hasn't seen for tens of thousands of years.

EMT, like HH, draws upon the Ra Material, while making some claims that contradict it at the level of details. For example, EMT claims that the "blue avian" aliens dreamed up by Coorey Goode and David Wilcock were the 3D form of Ra, while the Ra channeling has it that Ra looked like slender and delicate golden humanoids.

See also[edit]


  1. For example, a self-proclaimed Rothschild family member on Godlike Productions produced a troll-fest of a thread.[5]


  1. "Illuminati Insider Reveals Apocalyptic Agenda", Dr. Henry Makow, Illuminati News, Dec 26, 2008 (Archived)
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 Dialogue with "Hidden Hand", Self-Proclaimed Illuminati Insider, Wes Penre, Illuminati News, Dec 27, 2008 (Archived)
  3. Hidden Hand - Self-proclaimed “Illuminati Insider” Talks About 3D Replica Earth, /r/Retconned, Aug 06, 2018
  4. A primer on the Mandela Effect: Insider (2005), Hidden Hand (2008), Illuminator13 (2009), and Sagittarius Earth, /r/endoftheworld, Jul 06, 2020
  5. I am a Rothschild. Ask me a question. (Godlike Productions), 02/24/2013
  6. Article #5: Who is Hidden Hand?, Wes Penre, Videos and Articles by Wes Penre, March 9, 2019
  7. Revelations of an Elite Family Insider, 2005
  8. "Illuminator13 – Opportunity Knocks Again", Wes Penre, News From Behind The Scenes, March 7, 2010 (Archived)
  9. The New “Hidden Hand” Thread 2018, Wes Penre, December 9-11, 2018 (Archived) – obviously updated after December 11, as it contains forum contents from December 6–14
  10. Complete Eracidni Murev Te Dialogue, alastair.games/eracidni.html (Archived) – includes a few later posts at the end not in Wes Penre's compilation.