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It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand.
Mark Twain[1]
Like any high-school algebra student knows, one must “show their work” – getting the conclusion right is less than half the battle. In the long run, the creationist assertion that the Bible is an almanac of scientific facts – albeit without explanation – proves the Bible’s limited application as a factual guide to today’s world.
—Ames[2]

Biblical scientific foreknowledge is the idea that the Bible can accurately predict scientific knowledge that was supposedly unknown before the (multiple) times of its writing.

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[edit] General problems

Scientific knowledge is necessarily precise and detailed. It is not enough for science to make vague assertions, such as, "the body is made of the same things as the earth," or "rain falls and waters our crops". Instead, science details every process, examines how processes work, measures everything to the smallest possible degree, makes hypotheses and predictions, tests and retests, refines the explanation, and then makes this information fully public to allow others to retest, critique, and refine. Vague, metaphorical statements from religious texts are very rarely attempting to provide a true and detailed explanation of something. They are thinking, they are praising, they are making art -- but they are neither doing or predicting science.

Another point to remember is that although weak attempts may be made to shoehorn these quasi-poetical phrases into scientific knowledge, there are a vastly greater number of statements in the Bible with no basis whatsoever in scientific fact. Even if every one of the claims below were correct (which they manifestly are not), they would still be vastly outnumbered by the scientific absurdities.

[edit] Natural Artificial selection described in the Bible

Ironically, the Bible contains what some hold is a description of artificial selection (also known as selective breeding). Specifically, in the book Genesis, Jacob affects the mating habits of goats that he is tending, as part of a scheme to take ownership of his father-in-law Laban's herd. The result is that as the goats multiply, a larger and larger percentage of the offspring become dark colored, spotted, and speckled, and as a consequence, the property of Jacob. Genesis was written a little before Darwin was born. Of course, the Genesis account does not explain the biological mechanisms of this process, or how it occurs naturally.

On the other hand, the bible states that Jacob watered his flocks in front of dark colored sticks, and "And since they bred when they came to drink, the flocks bred in front of the sticks and so the flocks brought forth striped, speckled, and spotted..." Genesis 30:37-39. Which would suggest that Jacob did not use artificial selection, but rather magical thinking, making the Bible 0 for 0 on the Scientific Foreknowledge.

[edit] Equivocation, and Biblical scientific foreknowledge

To be equivocal is to be indistinctly related to two facts or theories. Statements and actions can be equivocal. For example, where a man pulls out a gun in a field, he could either be preparing to shoot an enemy, or cleaning the gun, or preparing to shoot a bird; his actions are equivocal. Similarly, where a man says, "I may be able to help you," he is equivocal as to whether or not he will actually help you.

For a relationship to be causal, cause and effect must be unequivocally related: there can be no other cause to the alleged relationship. For example, global warming is not caused by a decrease in sea piracy, because the two are not unequivocally related. There is no proof that one would not have occurred without the other.

Similarly, the below "relationships" between the Bible and science are equivocal as to cause and effect. The words in many of the Biblical quotes do not testify to a deliberately made scientific statement, and are open to interpretation in many cases as to whether or not they even appropriately describe the science they allegedly "foretold." The presence of equivocality makes a statement of Biblical "foreknowledge" highly suspect.

[edit] Gaps between science and the Bible

These "Gaps between Science and the Bible" are from a Christian textbook,[3] which appears to be aimed at students of approximately middle school age.

"Many important scientific truths were revealed in the Bible thousands of years before they were discovered by scientists."

Interestingly, quite a few of the biblical references provided have no relation at all to the "scientific truth" they supposedly reveal.

Amazing factoid Citation[4] Science finally catches up,
lag time in years[5]
Comments by the sane
Earth is a sphere Isaiah 40:22[6] 240 BCE, 760[7] Sounds more like a flat circle under a tent. A drum circle, maybe?

Also note that the Bible says the Earth has corners, which requires a flat square or cube. [8]

The water cycle keeps the land watered Job 36:27-28[9]
Ecclesiastes 1:7[10]
Amos 5:8[11]
350 BCE, 1600 Pretty good here. Jesus is my weatherman.
Earth is suspended in space Job 26:7[12] 1700 CE, 3600 What they never tell you about this verse is later, in Job 38:4-6, God directly tells Job that he is wrong and rebukes him for his insolence.[13] They also fail to mention that the Earth doesn't "hang on nothing" but instead is held in constant free-fall by the Sun's gravitational pull, as well as rotating on its axis. Far from a massive stationary object that's suspended by Divine Will. This statement is also at odds with one found in Psalms 104:5[14]
The universe is running down Isaiah 51:6[15]
Psalms 102:26[16]
1800 CE, 2500 Apparently entropy will not affect Isaiah's attitude problem. The Psalms reference could mean almost anything.
Ocean currents flow through the sea Psalms 8:8[17] 1800 CE, 2800 I see no reference to the Gulf Stream here. Must be a mistranslation.
Blood sustains life Leviticus 17:11[18] 1800 CE, 3300 In this case it appears that the blood also has magical atoning properties.
The universe is made of invisible things Hebrews 11:3[19] 1900 CE, 1900 Quantum mechanics would fall apart completely if this was not known. God bless us, one and all!
The Earth's crust rests upon a foundation Job 38:4[20]
Psalms 104:5[21]
1900 CE, 4000 Plate tectonics owes Job an enduring debt - and Archimedes was wrong about his hypothetical lever.
Stars produce sound Job 38:7[22] 1900 CE, 4000 Infrasounds, yes of course, but nobody can hear it for the interstellar vacuum. (Asteroseismology)
The stars cannot be numbered Genesis 15:5[23]
Genesis 22:17[24]
Jeremiah 31:37[25]
Jeremiah 33:22[26]
1600 CE, 3000 Only the fourth citation supports the claim.
Stars are incredibly distant from the earth Job 22:12[27] 1700 CE, 3800 But how much more distant than the moon?
Stars differ in magnitude 1 Corinthians 15:41[28] 1650 CE, 1550 Interestingly, it does not identify the sun as a star. We now know that it is.
The winds form a circulating system Ecclesiastes 1:6[29] 1800 CE, 2700 Actually, the winds blow horizontally, from west to east- the verse specifically says north to south.
Earth rotates on its axis Job 38:12,14[30]
Luke 17:31,34[31]
1600 CE, 3550 These verses have nothing to do with this claim, unless they are in some sort of code! Even if they did suggest that the Earth rotates, they would be at odds with the numerous references of the Earth being stationary
Man's body is composed of the same materials as the earth Genesis 2:8[32]
Genesis 3:19[33]
Psalms 103:14[34]
1800 CE, 3200 Where would biochemistry be without this important "inside information"?
The universe suddenly appeared out of nothing Genesis 1:1[35]
Psalms 33:6,9[36]
1900 CE, 3400 Actually, these say God made the universe. That's not "appearing out of nothing".

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[edit] Footnotes

  1. "It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand." BrainyQuotes.com. n.d. Web. 04 July 2014.
  2. Ames. "SCIENTIFIC “FOREKNOWLEDGE” FROM THE BIBLE." Submitted to a Candid World. 01 June 2008. Web. 05 July 2014.
  3. Science:Order & Reality. 1980,1993 Pensacola Christian College, A Beka Book. Page 357
  4. All the following verses are NIV, from http://www.biblegateway.com
  5. Dates are very approximate, read from the chart in the book
  6. He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
  7. cf., Eratosthenes
  8. I took you from the ends of the earth, from its farthest corners I called you. -- Isiah 41:9
  9. He draws up the drops of water, which distill as rain to the streams; the clouds pour down their moisture and abundant showers fall on mankind
  10. All streams flow into the sea, yet the sea is never full. To the place the streams come from, there they return again.
  11. he who made the Pleiades and Orion, who turns blackness into dawn and darkens day into night, who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out over the face of the land — the LORD is his name-
  12. He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing.
  13. Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone?
  14. He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.
  15. Lift up your eyes to the heavens, look at the earth beneath; the heavens will vanish like smoke, the earth will wear out like a garment and its inhabitants die like flies. But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
  16. They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. Like clothing you will change them and they will be discarded.
  17. the birds of the air, and the fish of the sea, all that swim the paths of the seas.
  18. For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one's life.
  19. By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
  20. Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
  21. He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.
  22. while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?
  23. He took him outside and said, "Look up at the heavens and count the stars — if indeed you can count them." Then he said to him, "So shall your offspring be."
  24. I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies,
  25. This is what the LORD says: "Only if the heavens above can be measured and the foundations of the earth below be searched out will I reject all the descendants of Israel because of all they have done," declares the LORD.
  26. I will make the descendants of David my servant and the Levites who minister before me as countless as the stars of the sky and as measureless as the sand on the seashore.
  27. Is not God in the heights of heaven? And see how lofty are the highest stars!
  28. The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.
  29. The wind blows to the south and turns to the north; round and round it goes, ever returning on its course.
  30. Have you ever given orders to the morning, or shown the dawn its place, ... The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment.
  31. On that day no one who is on the roof of his house, with his goods inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. ... I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left.
  32. Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed.
  33. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.
  34. for he knows how we are formed, he remembers that we are dust.
  35. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
  36. By the word of the LORD were the heavens made, their starry host by the breath of his mouth. & For he spoke, and it came to be; he commanded, and it stood firm.
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