Refuting anti-LGBT+ arguments

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I actually got a Ugandan Minister to say on camera… I said to him… there's so much more to worry about in your country than the odd gay person going to bed with the other gay person. For example, you have almost an epidemic of child rape in this country, which is just frightening.

And he said, 'Ah, but it is the right kind of child rape.'
I said, 'That was on camera. Do you know that was on camera?'
He said, 'Yes.'
I said, 'Can you just explain what you meant?'

'Well, it is men raping girls. Which is natural.'
Stephen Fry, recounting his discussion with Reverend Father Simon Lokodo of Uganda.[1]
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Over the years, mostly right wing and religious nuts have come up with arguments against the LGBTQIA+ community. Some arguments include: "Being LGBTQIA+ is sinful", "Marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman", "They will turn everyone gay", "The LGBTQIA+ are pedophiles", and "Being gay or transgender is a mental illness". These arguments have no scientific or historical basis, and this type of intolerance can lead LGBTQIA+ people to commit suicide or to major mental health issues. Ignorant prejudice from anti-LGBT+ bigots has even become a domestic terrorist threat as stated by the United States Department of Homeland Security. Violence against LGBT+ people often culminate as mass shootings.[2][3] This will cover arguments against the LGBT community and refute them in an academic and scientific, as well as somewhat religious, manner (i.e., theological arguments against transphobia). Anti-LGBT+ arguments range from seemingly intelligent to downright bullshit. Many arguments are derived from twisting around neuroscience/psychology (or science in general) and twisting around religious concepts.

Religious arguments[edit]

Examples in the following notes:[4][5]

Note: There were no (distorted) biblical arguments against transgender people.

Also note that in secular society, if one is arguing for legality related to LGBTQIA+, these arguments are not enough to serve as the basis of new laws, and could also violate constitutional prohibitions on establishing religious beliefs on others.

Religious Argument Rational Refutation
Being gay is going against God's Plan If homosexuality were against God's plan, God wouldn't have created it or allowed it to exist in the first place.
"Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion" (Romans 1:26-27).

"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" (Leviticus 20:13)

This is a common verse used against gays, but homophobes fail to realize that the original verse was written in Hebrew, then translated from multiple languages such as Greek and Latin to English. That is bound to twist the meaning at least a little. Also, the verse never mentions women. "Lie" is never clearly defined, but it might only be speaking against anal sex, since it was considered dirty in Biblical times. Jews also tend to be much more pro-gay than other religious groups. There has been an argument that in fact this only applied to men raping boys or other men, rather than simply any consensual sex. In any case, the writers of the Bible were products of their time, just as with the Qur'an. In fact, the Bible condones many actions considered immoral by today's standards (e.g., slavery).

God hates gays However, Jesus stated in (John 13:34), "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another." This clearly means that people are supposed to care about each other despite differences. Besides, He also hates shrimp, but plenty of Christians have dinner at Red Lobster.
Marriage is a holy union Marriage was around long before Christianity.[6] Tribal people worldwide had marriages and ancient empires such as the Mayan Empire in what is now Mexico had marriages, and those people formed unions before the Christian religion. Before Christianity took over, in the Roman Empire, marriage was a civic institution.

Scientific and social arguments[edit]

Anti-LGBTQIA+ Argument Rational Refutation
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Asexual, (etc.) people are mentally ill Sorry, but the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association have dropped homosexuality[7] and transsexualism[8] as mental illness through up-to-date scientific research and protests. Importantly, these attitudes are the reason these minorities are correlated with mental diseases, so some self-reflection is recommended. This is also not going into the further stigmatization of mental illnesses and leads to ableism.
LGBTQIA+ people need to be sent to a mental hospital by force. An extension of the first argument, more or less. First, being LGBT is not considered mental illness anymore (as per the current Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders). Second, being different does not affect you in any way. Finally, that would be a civil rights violation considering that the United States Constitution states, "A person may not be denied life, liberty, or property without due process". Plus the Bill of Rights allows for Freedom of Expression.[9]
Gays are not natural This argument also gets mixed in with religious arguments saying, "God made sex for procreation" or some variant of this. As for it being "unnatural", homosexuality has been observed in many other animal species,[10] while homophobia has been observed in only one subspecies (Homo sapiens sapiens). Nature isn't a reference for morals, either, since murder is ubiquitous, essential for survival for carnivores, and, thus, perfectly natural. Sex is certainly not solely for procreation, as rape in other animal species exists, and a few non-human animals, such as bonobo monkeys, have been observed having sex as a means to facilitate social cohesion and/or just for the heck of it.
You choose your sexuality Wrong; sexual orientation is not a conscious choice. Sexuality is deterministic, being influenced by genes, epigenetics,Wikipedia and/or from hormonal differences due to birth order.[11]
Transgender people are only confused about their sexuality caused by the liberal/mainstream media Wrong again! At first, someone may be confused, but a person learns their gender identity over time. This varies from person to person because gender identity has a biological basis, while someone is physically male or female; in terms of biochemistry, a transgender person's brain is wired as the opposite gender (so to speak).[12] There is a long history of transgender individuals across many countries and cultures, far beyond the reach of "liberal media".[13][14]
Children exposed to LGBT representation in school or children's programming will be confused

Ignorance is bliss, right? Not only is there very little evidence for this claim, it's also counterintuitive. Children who are taught about LGBT issues tend to become more accepting adults, are exposed to less homophobic bullying, and knowing what they're into can cause less unhappy "incompatible orientation" relationships later in life. In contrast, actively hiding information about entire groups of people tends to confuse LGBT youth, who won't know why they're interested in members of the same sex and think something's "wrong" with them.[note 1]

There are only two genders This is one of the Internet's favorite mantras, going as far as several YouTube personalities sporting this phrase at pride parades.[15] This phrase is usually followed along with "I sexually identify as a [insert anything but human here]", where it implies that having no limits to gender identity will be problematic somehow. It's also frequently repeated that chromosomes determine gender identity, which is also ignorant of intersex persons. If someone is born with an XXY chromosome, what would they be? They can't be male because they have an extra X, nor female if they have a Y chromosome, based on the traditional definition. Additionally, many cultures across every continent have recognized there being more than two genders in their society for thousands of years.[16] Additionally, people with run of the mill XX or XY chromosomes can have molecular structures that are in line with the opposite gender. [17]
"DNA will tell the truth"

"You are born male/female"

There are differences between biological sex and gender. The former, being sexual phenotypes and genotypes, is what the DNA determines, while the latter refers to one's presentation and conception about oneself, being influenced mainly by society (the DNA has a very limited influence). Also, forcing someone to conform to their biological gender is unethical.

LGBT+ people raising families is child abuse This happens to be one of the most brain-dead sociological arguments against LGBT+ people everywhere. The general idea is that LGBT+ parents will imprint their sexuality and or gender identity onto any possible children. What matters is if the children are happy, not suffering physical, mental, or sexual abuse, are well taken care of, and have a roof over their head. Also, the irony here is that many LGBT+ kids face child abuse from their homophobic/transphobic parents.[note 2]
Parents of trans people are groomers. Does limiting a child’s knowledge of their sexuality and bodily autonomy so that it’s easier for figures of authority to manipulate them into compromising abusive situations also count as grooming? Also, is transgender a mental illness, grooming, or indoctrinating? Those are completely different concepts.
Trans women will assault our little girls in the bathroom There are numerous problems with this idea. First, this assumes that only males are child predators. Second, trans women assaulting people in the bathroom is extremely rare. Third, trans women and butch lesbians or women not considered "feminine enough" are the most common victims in bathroom-related sexual assault. Fourth, nobody complains if trans men use men's bathrooms. That relies on the first point that women cannot sexually assault males.[18] It's not as if there's anything stopping people with bad intentions from entering the women's restroom right now, so allowing trans women to use their preferred restroom won't result in predators being more easily able to enter the women's restroom. Depending on the country one is in, it can take months to years to formally transition, and a person considering rape would go through all that just so that when they do rape, at least they are "in the right restroom"?
LGBT+ people should all be killed Yes, there are people out there who want to murder all LGBT+ people for various (cruel) reasons. Endorsing the systematic detention and murder of an entire people is genocide. This is basically endorsed by Uganda and the Russian Republic of Chechnya.[19] If you want to murder all LGBT+ people, that makes you no better than Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin. By the way, if you tried to incite the genocide of LGBTQ people in the United States, you could face prison time and a $500,000 fine. Actively trying to commit genocide can result in life in prison/death penalty and a $1,000,000 fine. Do remember that if you consider genocidal actions.[20] Now trying to commit genocide on your own would likely result in you being labeled as a terrorist by law enforcement.

Narrow/uncommon arguments

Anti-LGBTQIA+ Argument Rational Refutation
Equal marriage rights for gay people gives in to "the establishment". The legalization of gay marriage is such an important symbolic gesture of the integration of gay people into wider society, that it is actually linked to a reduction of suicide rates among young gay people.[21][22][23] Beyond that, in many places gay marriage is conducive to "next of kin" rights, hospital visitation rights, and other key benefits to couples. Why deny them these opportunities out of personal animosity to marriage as an institution?
Heterosexual men's physical stress/disgust response to seeing two men kiss is similar to their physical stress/disgust response in reaction to seeing maggots or rotting flesh. The study which concluded this heavily oversampled weekly church attendees (50.8% of sample), particularly Mormons (62.5%) living in Utah (65%). This suggests socialization in a homophobic religious environment could have heavily influenced this outcome — in fact, the study itself acknowledges this limitation.[24] Other research suggests that while both liberals and conservatives do feel disgust, they tend to feel it towards differing stimuli.[25]
Gay men have 500-1000 [or whatever absurdly high number of] sexual partners. See this article debunking the claim.

See also[edit]

External links[edit]

Notes[edit]

  1. Of course, for a homophobe, confusing LGBT youth may be a desired result.
  2. Heck, any child being raised by homophobic/transphobic parents is being abused, considering that they're being raised to have the same repugnant values that will make respectable people want nothing to do with them (except maybe putting a bullet in their brains for being a menace to humanity).

References[edit]

  1. Ugandan Reverend Simon Lokodo: 'Child Rape Better than Homosexuality'. International Business Times.
  2. Los Angeles Blade, Retrieved on Jan 18, 2023.
  3. http://www.thetrevorproject.org/pages/facts-about-suicide
  4. What the Bible Says About… Homosexuality Christian Teens section in About.com
  5. http://www.thebiblepage.org/biblesays/homosexuality.php
  6. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/raina-bowe/if-not-gods-authority-who_b_8090588.html
  7. https://psychiatry.org/news-room/apa-blogs/apa-blog/2016/03/homosexuality-as-a-mental-disorder-simply-not-backed-up-by-science
  8. http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx
  9. https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/billofrights Link text, additional text.
  10. http://www.yalescientific.org/2012/03/do-animals-exhibit-homosexuality/
  11. http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/10/homosexuality-may-be-caused-chemical-modifications-dna
  12. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150213112317.htm
  13. See the Wikipedia article on Transgender history.
  14. A MAP OF GENDER-DIVERSE CULTURES, PBS, August 11, 2015
  15. Trolling the PRIDE MARCH!, Hunter Avallone, June 11, 2018
  16. A Map of Gender-Diverse Cultures, PBS
  17. National Library of Medicine, Retrieved on July 16, 2024.
  18. NIH, National Institutes of Health.
  19. [eurasiareview.com/23042017-chechnyas-gay-purge-anti-lgbtq-violence-and-state-sanctioned-genocide-of-homosexuals-analysis/ Eurasia Review], Retrieved on April 25, 2022.
  20. Cornell University Law School, Retrieved on June 29, 2023.
  21. Kennedy, Andrew; Genç, Murat; Owen, P. Dorian "The Association Between Same-Sex Marriage Legalization and Youth Deaths by Suicide: A Multimethod Counterfactual Analysis". The Journal of Adolescent Health, (June 2021) 68 (6): 1176–1182. doi:10.1016/j.jadohealth.2021.01.033. ISSN 1879-1972. PMID 33812751.
  22. Segal, Corinne (February 20, 2017). "Same-sex marriage laws linked to fewer youth suicide attempts, new study says". PBS NewsHour.
  23. Jon Henley (November 14, 2019). "Suicide rates fall after gay marriage legalised in Sweden and Denmark". The Guardian.
  24. O’Handley, Breanna Maureen; Blair, Karen L.; Hoskin, Rhea Ashley (2017-07-03). "What do two men kissing and a bucket of maggots have in common? Heterosexual men’s indistinguishable salivary α-amylase responses to photos of two men kissing and disgusting images" (in en). Psychology & Sexuality 8 (3): 173–188. doiWikipedia:10.1080/19419899.2017.1328459. ISSN 1941-9899. 
  25. Elad-Strenger, Julia; Proch, Jutta; Kessler, Thomas. "Is Disgust a “Conservative” Emotion?" (in en). Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin 46 (6): 896–912. doiWikipedia:10.1177/0146167219880191. ISSN 0146-1672.