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“”He knew about concerned citizens. Wherever they were, they all spoke the same private language, where "traditional values" meant "hang someone."
|—Terry Pratchett, The Truth|
In general, if someone's main argument in favor of their propositions/ideas is "traditional values", this means there actually isn't any other rational argument worthy of attention. For example, "caring about children" is a very, very old traditional value, yet people speaking up against child abuse usually don't resort to this rhethoric, instead choosing more practical and immediate arguments. A return to traditional values is an oft-spoken desire of conservatives. It's part of fundamentalist psychology.
Traditional values include, but are not limited to, the many ideals listed here.
Commonly spoken of
- Prayer in schools
- Creationism as science in schools
- Abstinence only education in schools
- Outlawing abortion
- Outlawing homosexual acts
- Encouraging women to be skivvies
Not so commonly spoken of
Probably because those who trumpet "traditional values" the loudest do not actually adhere to them.
- Work ethic (only when it does not involve whoever speaking of it)
- Family values (the real kind, not their redefined sort)
Skeletons in the closet
- Women as chattel property
- Infanticide (it must be noted that this does not include any time before "pre-uterine expulsion")
- Endemic child abuse
- Poor sanitation
- Entrenched racism
- Life expectancy not exceeding
70 3050 years
- Marriageable age of
- Lynch mob for heretics and minority groups
- Capital punishment for heretics 
CorporalCapital punishment for sexual deviancy 
- Capital punishment for, well, everything. "It's hanging for a sheep, or murder in the first degree."
- 80 hour work week
- Safety at work regulated by the
free marketnatural selection
- Health care provided by the
free marketnatural selection
InterdictionProhibition of divorce
- Censorship of science
- Human sacrifice
On the other hand, Morris Dancing is also a traditional value, and nothing's better than dressing up silly, getting drunk, and dancing in public, to say nothing of the redeeming social value of learning to deal with the symbolism of grown men shaking their jingly bells and swatting their big, thick, knotty sticks together in a mature, responsible fashion.
Graphic artists formerly recognised three traditional values: dark, light, and mid-tone. Societies where graven images are frowned upon generally make do with line and colour, rather than skate too close to realistic rendering with all those shades of grey. Noted home scholar Ansel Adams, being dissatisfied with just three zones of value, used some larger prime number, perhaps nine.
- Actions which demand the death penalty in the Old Testament
- Daily Mail
- Family values
- Religious freedom
- Slavery in the Bible
- The Traditional Values Coalition
- Where 'heretic' is defined in the broader sense as "people who don't play nice with their local church leader", or in the narrower sense, "Anyone the local church leader doesn't like."
- Where 'sexual deviancy' is defined as "Anything remotely sexual that isn't a married man and his
chattel womanwomen trying to make one or more babies in the missionary position."
- This is the only place where we find the metric system to be better.
- The argument being that rational free men will be less willing to work for employers who have a bad safety record, thus solving all related problems.
- Though, that doesn't mean we recognize evolution, generally.