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This user loves #874040.

Boo!

Effing what? Sterile (talk) 01:15, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Still crummy. Nutty Roux (talk) 03:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Wonder what ever happened to Crundy. I liked that guy. Ace^Moderator 06:30, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

I'll reach out to him. Good guy. Nutty Roux (talk) 12:58, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

I agree with you...

But you can't bail because you and Ace are one of two people with a little bit of sense. The site needs you in order to either be turned around or dissolved. For starters, you're the one who correctly pointed out that ban policy wasn't being followed (and that most of the "ban evasion" blocks, including the "Morris" blocks, were based on fallacy because a lot of the users in question were never truly banned). So please don't go anywhere. 71.215.100.2 (talk) 22:38, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm not interested in participating, but thanks for the vote of confidence. Nutty Roux (talk) 23:49, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Fuck you. I'm here. I need you Nutty. You were my first love. Ace^Moderator 21:39, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

I love you, vulgar nouveau riche clown. Nutty Roux (talk) 01:30, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Spread the wealth around and send me some money. — Oxyaena ^Harass 01:31, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Fuck off Oxy. Nutty once sent me a Xmas card that said he holds me tight like piss until it burns. It was the sexiest thing anyone has ever said to me. So no money for you. Ace^Moderator 02:26, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

I work hard for my money. So hard for my money. Nutty Roux (talk) 04:47, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Looks like you wanna kill the poor then. — Oxyaena ^Harass 05:49, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Gas grass or ass, no one rides for free in this world. Get a job, make yourself useful, or just fuqoff; that's the way the world has always been and will always be that way. Nature is inherently "ableist". CoryUsar (talk) 06:03, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

I believe it was the Dead Kennedy’s that said “kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor” Ace^Moderator 06:09, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

With neutron bombs no less! Showing that DK did not understand what the neutron bomb actually was... CoryUsar (talk) 06:27, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Motörhead and Aerosmith on the other hand advocate for eating the rich. I'm not sure if I should feel safe of discriminated about the fact that I've never heard anyone make a song about offing us lower middle class people. Knight Commander^{In Service}_{To Her}^Goatness 07:29, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Don't worry. When someone says "kill the poor", they mean everyone with less money than themselves, and whenever someone says "eat the rich", they mean everyone with more money than themselves. You get fucked from both sides! CoryUsar (talk) 07:41, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

For unbanning Mike

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Somebody just wants to let you know you did something silly.

See Talk:Jack Buckby. Mike left the same message multiple times while impersonating Jack Buckby, and now he's impersonating someone else after I locked the Jack Buckby talkpage. We know it's Mike because he created another account shortly after the first wave of Jack Buckby accounts (after the first time I locked the page, Chris unlocked it later and then I relocked it) which had a holocaust denying username and which he left the same message but referring to himself. Please look at the context around a ban before undoing it and hastily removing my mod powers. Plutocow (talk) 00:39, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

It's not just me, it's been well established that this person is Mikey. Besides, far more people besides me ban ban evaders. Take it to the coop if you're serious about this. Plutocow (talk) 00:49, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Nothing about that account has been "well established". Far more people who ban ban evaders also abuse their user rights. This is an opportunity for you to learn something, You should take it. Nutty Roux (talk) 00:54, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

There's a discussion at ATIM, take it there. Plutocow (talk) 00:56, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Here's another one just for good measure. MarioSuperstar77 (talk) 10:51, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Somebody just wants to let you know you did something silly.

What was the site like in early days?

I joined the site when it was already quite old and never really saw the original state of the wiki. Was it less focused on idealogical purity testing than it is now? Commie Lib (talk) 05:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

I've been at RW about a year longer than Nutty (not to detract from his history) and I'll tell you what. The site was never as litigious and offended as it is now. It's become less interesting and more offended. Because the adults left. Ace^{Simple Maze} 07:47, 15 March 2021 (UTC

Ace is ace! Scream!! (talk) 12:45, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

From a humor perspective, the website has become more entertaining. The absurdity level of editor behavior keeps increasing, while the usefulness of the website keeps going down. The website has become a sociological freak show. RationalWiki doesn't have as global of an editor base as Wikipedia, so Western leftism that is offended is more pronounced at RationalWiki.

The fad of Western leftism that is offended is bound to have a shelf life, just like the ideological leanings of the former editor base had a shelf life. Goyathlay (talk) 10:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

A fitting song about the early days of the wiki and the remaining old timers: "Once upon a time there was a wiki. A wiki where we promoted liberal modernism. Remember how we laughed away the hours and think of all the great things we thought we would do. Those were the days of liberal modernism my friend. We thought they'd never end. We'd sing and dance forever and a day. We'd live the life we choose. We'd fight and never lose. For we were young and sure to have our way. La la la la la la La la la la la la. La la la la La la la la la la. Then the busy years went rushing by us. We lost our starry notions on the way. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser. For in our hearts the dreams are still the same." (Paraphrase of Those Were The Days by Mary Hopkin).Goyathlay (talk) 11:19, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

P.S. The website was never very interesting. It does cover some obscure crackpot ideas such as Project Blue Beam that other wikis do not cover. But the website's ideological biases have always caused it to promote false ideas posing as rigorously tested science.Goyathlay (talk) 12:58, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Such as? ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 13:19, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

It is fun to create a new user on a Wiki (just today, even!) just to bitch about the old yesteryears of the site and complain about the climate today. The fine art of trolling, indeed, has taken a nosedive since the old days. People used to be not so obvious. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 13:26, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Should I add the template on their talk page? {{sock|Nutty Roux}} MarioSuperstar77 (talk) 15:56, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

I honestly doubt this new person is Nutty. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 17:38, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

western Leftism is insanely inconvenient problem and a great threat to the eternal status quo. Hopefully its shelf-life end's soon and LGTBQ+ people, visible minorities, the disabled, religious minorities and all other marginalised can go back to taking their insults, discrimination and even violence against them with silence, non-reaction, grace, dignity and knowing their place. I miss the days when I heard casual tiring gay jokes or even gay bashing and didn't have the resolve to speak up for myself and others. Goyathlay...could you teach us how to return to a straight-white-male paradise? ShabiDOO 18:40, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ace McWicked Not strictly true. You, HBC, NR and Hastur are still around. UninspiringNickname (talk) 16:38, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

AND quite a few others. I'm sorry about that glaring omission in my previous, hastily-typed comment . UninspiringNickname (talk) 17:03, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

The answer to this is going to depend a little on what you mean by "early days". See RationalWiki:Timeline. Any idea of "ideological purity" would have been laughable in the earliest incarnations. For that matter I'm not sure that it's very relevant now.Bob^{"Life is short and (insert adjective)"} 18:00, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Vastly better, but still not great? The place has always been a mix of delightful and truly shitty, and has always brought the worst out in some people in ways it never had a mechanism for dealing with. Honestly, I'm probably not the right person to ask. I've never been a fan of RW's culture in general, particularly the painful fact that it has always self-selected a cohort of arrogant, officious weirdos who invariably shit the place up until they lose interest. I stuck around because I respected the mission and the direction content was going until I didn't. And I had some good friends here who made things pleasant. What Bob says about his experience back then rings true. I disagree that ideological purity testing isn't relevant now, but I have nothing further to say about it beyond the obvious point that ideological purity seems incredibly important to some of the loudest bullies trying so desperately to impose themselves son the site's culture — how relevant they are is another matter. In my early days, I would characterize the editorship as far less homogenous, far more competent and well-informed, far more capable of expressing joy and fellowship on a sitewide basis, and far more politic than now. Nutty Roux (talk) 22:16, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm not exactly old-guard, but I miss FuzzyCatPotato, AgingHippie, and a dozen others. Nowadays we seem to have let the inmates run the asylum. CorruptUser 00:10, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

I think Nutty threatened to unilaterally permaban FCP once if he wouldn't shut the fuck up[1]. So not sure how much missing happens between the two. And if it is as I understand that AgingHippie was the second coming of Tyrannis, Nutty wanted to strip him of rights back in the day too[2]. So I gather he wasn't a fan. Knight Commander^{In Service}_{To Her}^Goatness 00:25, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh, Weasaloid and David Gerard and Reverand Black Percy... CorruptUser 00:28, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm a bit of a fan of most of all of these people too. Even if I did tell DG to go fuck himself in an angry drunken PM several years ago. Knight Commander^{In Service}_{To Her}^Goatness 00:31, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Back then, it was (and I may have rose-tinted glasses on) "I disagree with you, let's discuss this, I still don't agree but believe you have a right to say it". Now it's "You don't agree with me on everything? You are a bigot who deserves to die, fuck you and the horse you rode in on! Now we have to have a vote in the chicken coop!CorruptUser 00:39, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Ah, I see you are unfamiliar with the Israel-Palestine fiasco that happened here a few years back. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 00:42, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

I was dead center in it. Me, Arisboch, Avenger, Mona, Owlman, PBF... CorruptUser 00:48, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

(EC)FCP and AgingHippie were some of the guys who tried to fight back for tolerance and benefit of the doubt during those dark days of yore. Gerard and Weaseloid, not so much. They had picked their sides pretty much from the start, though eventually they realized that their side had a bunch of arseholes amongst their ranks as well. I don't think RBP was very involved at least in that unpleasantness, or if he was I can't recall it. Knight Commander^{In Service}_{To Her}^Goatness 00:49, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Wow, I didn’t realize you were a part of it. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 01:03, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

I backed out of it towards the end, wasn't worth getting in between Mona and Avenger's nonsense. At least Owlman, ChrisAmiss, PBF and Arisboch and I could at least come to an understanding. Mona was... Mona, and Avenger was a problem all on his own. The articles involving I-P are still a mess and it left a fowl enough taste in my mouth that I don't want to bother fixing them. Really, we should've put our feet down when people started referencing electronic intifada and couldn't understand why that might be a problem. CorruptUser 01:09, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Why is that a problem? — Oxyaena ^Harass 16:20, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Let's hope that the current trends continue and social justice continues along the lines of of whinging more and more about less and less.UncleKrampus (talk) 02:51, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Nomination

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Monet Ye 15:41, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Do you believe this website is intolerant and that the editors are too easily offended?

I just saw the blocking statistics you just posted on your user page.

Do you believe this website is very intolerant and that many editors are too easily offended? Erik10012 (talk) 22:44, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

For looking at individual Sysops, those raw statistics are not the best way to look at the issue. It might be better to compare total blocks to either number of years active or total number of edits. Bongolian (talk) 02:24, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

I guess for some individuals it doesn't provide the most meaningful look at their use of the tools, but the numbers give an eye opening look at what others are doing. Trying to determine the time a user has been active is actually pretty difficult. It can't be signup date, and most people on these lists are long long gone. You'd have to analyze their actions to determine some threshold of what "active" means. It can't be just edits, although comparing blocks of various types, page protections, etc to raw edit numbers might be interesting. Ultimately, since it's pretty easy to pull all blocks, protections, etc. and all of any particular editors contributions, it would be most interesting to use the Google charts API to allow on the fly visualizations over time so you could better see trends. Regardless, these numbers are interesting to some. I get emails. Nutty Roux (talk) 13:08, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

How'd you get those block numbers?

I wanna see how many actions I've taken. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 23:15, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

I pulled them from the API with a Ruby script I wrote. What stats do you want? Nutty Roux (talk) 01:24, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

I was just curious how many actions I’ve taken since I only showed up on the lists once. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 14:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC)