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Bringing LX to the coop was fucking stupid. Come Psy, forget it. I don't like Lx much but hell this shit been going on too long. Ace of Spades 10:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

But it's been going on for far too long, because nobody's actually brought the whiny little troll to book. How much longer is this shit going to go on? --PsyGremlin話しなさい 10:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Lx ain't a troll. He is a whiny pain in the ass but I have more respect for him than I would have for a troll - because I believe him to be genuine. Ace of Spades 10:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
I shall defer to your superior judgment on this matter. --PsyGremlinParla! 10:15, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
I wouldn't say superior. More it's because I have been away from the whole thing and come in late. Hence skipping the hysteria and bad blood and seeing the issue for what it is....fuck all. Ace of Spades 10:17, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Remember the 2008 style?[edit]

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I'm bringing this back. New3.pngPink(Is a perfectly acceptable colour) 11:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

We need more of that. Sorry for being an insufferable ass. --PsyGremlinKhuluma! 11:43, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Well, no one is going to get the power to block so if you feel like you're being an insufferable ass (and realising it show the meta-cognitive maturity beyond many people) then just switch the computer off, go outside, have a cigarette, punch a kitten, masturbate, sketch some flowers, watch some stand-up - although not necessarily in that order, of course. Or anything to make you realise that this is the Internet, it doesn't fucking matter. ADK...I'll rebel your centrifuge! 11:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
It's all good. Don't worry about a thing. New3.pngPink(Is a perfectly acceptable colour) 11:47, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

goodbye & thanks![edit]

Hi Psy, I'm leaving for good now (not LANCB, lol) due to what's happened, please read here: I want to thank you for your friendship, advice and cousel and for keeping all my secrets. Feel free to tell anything now, as all is resolved and of no matter to me anymore. Much love to you always, - Refugeetalk page 19:36, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

"Fuck you all...."[edit]

Sad to see it's come to this.[edit]

Et tu, Psy? Funny; I didn't agree with a lot of the stuff you did -- I thought outing Karajou's fat kid was a bitch move, for one. But so what? You're smart and funny and make solid contributions to the project and the community and good people can disagree. That's what friends do -- they stick it out through tensions and disagreements and overlook the bad when it's outweighed by the good. Seems like here, now, too many folks are getting too entrenched in their positions to do that anymore, and the community is paying the price. Res ipso loquitor. P-Foster (talk) 13:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

You know. There was bad, and steps were being taken to resolve it. And then somebody came along and fucked it all up because it's fun. Who the fuck gave crat rights to Ty and Blue? Now, not only are we back at square one, we have the kiddies running around with their fucking pathetic political parties. It was never about positions - what this side needed desperately was some sort of structure to prevent against this kind of shit happening, and instead everybody took a collective dump on Trent's head.
Good luck dealing with people like Ty, Eira, Brxbrx, Blue and their ilk. You'll need it. --PsyGremlinHable! 13:28, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
I gave Blue cratship because she asked me in email and said she wanted to try to fix this. I'm disappointed that her "fix" was to simply recrat everyone, but frankly at that point I was considering giving MC cratship and letting the idiots who think he's a valuable contributor reap what they sow. Actually I might just do that. -- Nx / talk 13:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Oh, and brxbrx is IMHO one of the most reasonable and mature crat candidates despite being an EDiot. -- Nx / talk 13:42, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Nx, I like you and respect your wiki-fu, but for you to say some little wanker whose now running around creating "political fucking parties" and campaigning for crat is "one of the most reasonable and mature crat candidates" - you're either a poor judge of character or fucking with me. --PsyGremlin말하십시오 14:06, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Well, maybe I misjudged him, I'm not around very much these days, but that's the impression I get from his involvement in this HCM. And AFAIK he didn't start the whole party bullshit. -- Nx / talk 17:38, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Do it. I'm sick of MC getting unblocked for political reasons. The only reason he keeps on getting unblocked and defended by NR and co is because they know that he can be relied upon to troll the opposition, but not them. He's not stupid enough to bite the hand the feeds him. Just make him a crat. EddyP Great King! Disaster! 13:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Why you got such a hardon for me Eddy? I'm on the record all over the place for why I support MCs freedom. It goes way back before the recent trouble. Nutty Roux (talk) 14:06, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
He's concerned about goings on!!! Troll!!!! Occasionaluse (talk) 14:15, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
NR, maybe you are on record, though I've not seen it. If you honestly think MC provides something, then fair do's, though why anyone thinks he is anything other than a (self-admitted) troll mystifies me. As for you, I've no particular problems with you until your behaviour towards Ty (who, , like you, I don't think I've ever spoken properly with) which I considered to be pretty shameful. Up until then, you were just a vaguely familiar face it was nice to see around. Anyway, Psy's talk page isn't the place for this; if you want to continue email me or something. EddyP Great King! Disaster! 21:02, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Done. P-Foster (talk) 14:01, 17 May 2011 (UTC)


We can't squeeze our dicks together anymore if you're not here. Nutty Roux (talk) 14:02, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Awesome. P-Foster (talk) 14:03, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Don't worry Nutty, just because I'm leaving doesn't mean my knob isn't yours anymore. --PsyGremlinSermā! 14:11, 17 May 2011 (UTC)


Can't do my job, some buttons are curiously absent, must be something wrong with Firefox again. Best I can do is the same as you and hope 'katz is watching. ТyTalk. 15:06, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Come back.[edit]

Come back Psy. Unlike I, who will not be much missed, your loss will be felt greatly. You are a long-time major contributor to this wiki, and it will definitely not be a better place without you.

I understand your frustration with the way things happened in the past few days. Such turmoil and chaos. But please don't give up - because after the dust settles and the air clears, this wiki will need you more than ever.

I left, because I am a person who feels a great sense of moral indignation whenever I see what I consider injustice - when I feel that people are not being treated fairly, when the rights of some are trampled on by others; when someone imposes their will on people. So I refuse to participate. But I don't advocate everyone leaving - those who stay to rebuild are to be admired and commended.

I think you and I differ a little on what was done and why, and the wisdom of it, and your judgement might be more educated than mine, as I think you've lived through a situation where change only came about after a violent upheaval (please forgive me if I am wrong, I am projecting my thoughts here, so feel free to correct my misimpressions) and I don't know if that was a good thing or what the after effects are in your country. But the point is, when the revolution comes, there are those who embrace it and say "viva la revolution!", there are those who oppose change and strive to return things to their former state of stability, and then there is the person who retreats to a remote location to observe what happens... we call this person a refugee. lol.

But if everyone chose that route, the place would surely die, and there must be those valient people who work to recreate and make it a viable community again. You have had a large part in building this wiki, in making it what it is, a truly unique and wonderful place, so you are invested in it. I hope you will join to help tmt in his efforts to build a better wiki. I don't like seeing anyone leave (besides myself, lol) and more than anyone else, I think you should be here. So if you need a day to two to relax away from the flames and fighting to recoup, take it, but then please do return - you are needed here. Love, Refugeetalk page 20:51, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Think Jack from LOST: Live together, die alone. You know you'll say, "I want to go back!!!" Seriously, we need folks like you. steriletalk 01:04, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure you will be missed all that much actually Psy. What you did to and said about ListenerX when he was trying his best to sort out these messes shows that you are really a petty, small minded and malicious person. There was no excuse for that, and now we seem to have lost an actually valuable contributor, rather than a mudslinger like you. DamoHi 20:58, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
I will also miss Refugee more than Psy. However, I also echo what Psy said about "ListenerX". Occasionaluse (talk) 20:59, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Dear Damo. Go fuck yourself. Love --PsyGremlinSpeak! 21:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
I thought you had retired. Or is it just a pathetic cry for attention? DamoHi 05:54, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Maybe I feel the need to reply to sad little wankers who are all butthurt because I dragged their little buddy to the coop for fermenting the HCM on here. Diddums. ListenerX is gone? Good fucking riddance. --PsyGremlinSpeak! 07:04, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
The reality is that you are not retiring at all. You just want people to look at you. Did you not get enough attention as a child? And for the record, Lx is not my buddy, nor was he fermenting HCM - that was all you. DamoHi 07:43, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Time for some old school hip hop[edit]

Nutty Roux (talk) 22:15, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

For Kotomi, had I'd known she was you[edit]

Aboriginal Noise What the ... 00:43, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

You haven't left[edit]

You're still posting. You haven't left. You promised you'd 'leave and never come back'. I for one was excited at this prospect. You've broken your word. You're lying. Why are you still here? You can't have it both ways. MarcusCicero (talk) 12:30, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I guess I'm a bit like you in that respect. Although, like you I am now on a course of justice, in the vain hope that a power mad little bitch gets kicked off her pedestal. It won't happen, of course, which is exactly why RW will continue to flounder. Oh yes, and where did I promise "leave and never come back" - template says retired. -- (talk) 12:34, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Interesting sophistry, but I see right past it. You haven't retired, the only reason somebody claims to retire is to garner attention for themselves and generally provoke a drama. Its a well known RW tactic and you are certainly not the first person to claim to have taken his ball and gone home. In short you're a liar and less than reputable person. Either take down your stupid retirement template or actually leave. MarcusCicero (talk) 12:36, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Coming from you, that's almost a compliment. --PsyGremlinTala! 14:13, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Marcus that it's quite clear you need a wikibreak. Occasionaluse (talk) 14:55, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Well, seeing as you are MC I'm not surprised. besides, I have some stuff to sort out for the good of the wiki first. While the rest of you play with your little political parties. --PsyGremlinRunāt! 14:58, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
While I can appreciate that you think your personal well-being is outranked by that of the wiki, it's simply not true. Rest. Relax. For your sake. Occasionaluse (talk) 15:10, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
No, as long as the head is rotten, the wiki will be corrupt. It has to be cleansed from the top down, or nothing changes. The whole mess started with that. --PsyGremlin話しなさい 15:14, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
If you have a head, it will rot. Is anarcho-syndicalism the answer? Occasionaluse (talk) 15:19, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
The Chairman of the Board of Trustees has pretty much already stated that he will not bring my Motion for No Confidence to a vote over wiki politics. As well, we all know the Chicken Coop doesn't ever get anything done. While I applaud your efforts to "fix the corruption at the head", you're tilting at windmills at this point, and have just as much a chance of accomplishing your goals as Don Quixote himself. Please, take the advice of others, and take a break, and cool off. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 15:21, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
In that case, my job here is done. --PsyGremlinFale! 15:28, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Could you just fucking stop poking it with a stick for a while?[edit]

Seriously, Psy. I've said it before, and I'll say it again; I like you. I think you're smart and clever and do good work, and b/t here, RWW, FB and your blog, I spend a lot of time enjoying your online presence. But going after Eira like this is really not doing the site any good. You think she's a bitch? Fine. I disagree, but whatever. It's a big site on a big internet. It would probably do the place a lot of good if you just backed off for a while. Thanks, buddy. P-Foster (talk) 16:00, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Too bad you're not here.[edit]

'Cause this link has two of your favorite things. Cleverness and Japanese girls. But now you won't see it. P-Foster (talk) 20:59, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Meat, booze and being woken by Har de daa's[edit]

In Jo'Burg. Arrived yesterday after a crazy flight filled with heavy boozing. Won't have time to catch up anytime soon but have your number so I'll give you a call around 15th March. Heading into Soweto today and staying at friends within earshot of Wanderers Stadium. AceModerator 06:43, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Cool - welcome to the greatest city in Africa. And yes, Hardee-dars aren't the most melodious of birds, are they? Have fun in Soweto - you going to the Cooling Towers? Make sure you eat at Wandies Place - good food. Looking forward to raising a glass or several with you next month! --PsyGremlinSpeak! 07:06, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Why wait? He's already in your house. Call him. Nutty Rouxnever mind 14:55, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

"Grave Dancing"[edit]

Psy, I really respect your opinion, so I wanted to understand what about my WIGO:CP talk page comments you considered grave-dancing. I think there can be a fine line between noting the hypocrisy, which is what I felt I had done, and getting ahead of CP, as the discussion about Whitney Houston's death (which, if I recall correctly, began PRIOR to CP's announcement with users anticipating their response). But I was just curious for some more insight into your line of thinking. And if you don't have time or just aren't interested in delving further into it, I totally understand! Jared (talk) 20:16, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

"Psy, I really respect your opinion"
Well, there's your problem. Fieka (super crazy fun time!) 20:19, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
The fact remains that going "ooh so-and-so is dead! I wonder what Andy will do?" is distasteful. Yes, we know Andy dances on graves, but our highlighting people's deaths merely to point fingers at CP, is no better than Andy highlighting deaths to point fingers at Hollywood. --PsyGremlinSpeak! 13:15, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
noting the hypocrisy, which is what I felt I had done - there wasn't any hypocrisy to note, jared. Andy hadn't piped up yet. We've been having this argument on RW for years, but at least we've moved on from pre-emptive gloating about mass shootings, so there's progress of a sort. Sophiebecause liberals 13:28, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
To Psy and Sophie---I didn't say, I wonder what Andy will do. Not only did I not call out Andy, I didn't even query what they would do when they heard about the death. Instead, I linked to THEIR OWN ANNOUNCEMENT of the death. I didn't have to wonder what CP would do---they had already done it! And Sophie, there was hypocrisy. As I said, I linked to JPatt's announcement, and noted his/CP's hypocrisy, as he's one of the prominent editors at the Hollywood Values article. So while I can understand both your concerns, I don't feel they're applicable since I wasn't preempting anyone. If you look at my initial comment in that thread, you'll see the order of events: Breitbart passes, CP notes it, I note the way they noted it. Having established the timeline, I have to go back and ask--where was the grave-dancing? Jared (talk) 14:08, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
"Of course, if it was in Hollywood, I can only imagine the causes CP would come up with for the death." What do you call that? Andy didn't do any grave dancing - probably because it was a conservative, but by going down the "what would Andy do?" route, you were grave dancing. --PsyGremlinSpeak! 14:57, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
I guess I just fundamentally misunderstand the definition you're using for "grave dancing." Wondering what Andy would do if the circumstances were different, even if the pre-existing event was a death, just doesn't seem like I'm dancing on someone's grave. But I appreciate you're having taking the time to try to explain :-) Jared (talk) 00:44, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Teh blockie[edit]

I would have waited till User:PSanjuanaHunterl etc. did some spam before blocking them. Proxima Centauri (talk) 13:51, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Nah, it's a pretty safe bet given the nick. And if I'm wrong, they can wail on their talk page. --PsyGremlinPraat! 14:12, 5 March 2012 (UTC)


In Franschhoek at the moment. Drinking heavily (yes, I am aware it is only 7:40am). Will try catch up in JoBurg but might have trouble with my flight times. Run into ticket issues. Will keep you posted. AceModerator 05:41, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Heh! When in that part of the world, the only thing to do is drink wine! I've come reeling back from many a tour to the wine farms. Sorry to hear the ticket issues, that's kak. Hope you get it sorted and we get to clink a glass or 12 together. --PsyGremlin말하십시오 13:40, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Should be OK. Flying from Pietermaritzburg to O.R.Tambo airport and, depending on timing, might have a few hours spare in which case I'll take the Gautrain to Sandton and meet you in Nelson Mandela Square. You won't get to meet my lovely wife however, she is staying another week on her aunt/uncles farm in 'maritzburg...but all anyone needs is Ace. AceModerator 05:55, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


Haha. I was in traffic the other day and heard this song from my MP3 player. The singer is called 'Psy', so thought it was funny. Here's the music video. I wish I could just start a party in traffic or at work and everyone join in. It'd be awesome. One day. One daaaay~--Dumpling (talk) 08:38, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

"This video may contain content that is inappropriate for some users"
Are you trying to corrupt me, young lady? Oh... wait... too late. {^_-}
有難う! Interesting track... sort of ravey rap music.
Btw, don't try and stop the traffic and dance down here - you'll get flattened by an infamous mini-bus taxi.
PS My moves are waayyyy cooler. I just need to be very drunk and spend the following week in a wheelchair!--PsyGremlinSiarad! 13:34, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Hahahaha. Corrupt!? ME!? I would neveeeer~ Bwahahahaa.
Anyways, yeah, it's super catchy, and it's a funny MV.
...Andddd....I will keep that in mind. O_____O...I do not to be any shorter than I already am. Hahaha.
I have no doubt that your moves are better. Hahahaha. XDDDD--Dumpling (talk) 06:08, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


Was it you that recommended Malazan Books of the Fallen to me? I'm thinking about starting that when I finish Mistborn (probably this evening.)

It's either that, the next Mistborn book (I don't think it was originally planned as a trilogy -- he just turned it into one after the first one did well), or start my umpteenth re-reading of the Thomas Covenant books. MDB (talk) 17:03, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Not that this was directed at me, but I'd highly recommend the Malazan books. The deliberate subversion of pretty much every fantasy trope is really well done. ORavenhurst (talk) 17:14, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I've seen them compared favorably to Martin's Song of Ice and Fire. MDB (talk) 17:21, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
yeah, they are really really good. Great story, epic scale, intrigue, interesting characters and yes, unlike any fantasy out there. PsyGremlinSiarad! 17:53, 15 March 2012 (UTC)


YAYYY!!!!! Happybdaytuzki.gif--Dumpling (talk) 05:59, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

OH! I forgot the birthday song! Here you GO!--Dumpling (talk) 06:52, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you!! Another year closer to officially being a dirty old man! And the birthday song rocks. --PsyGremlinZungumza! 10:46, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
I also submit my commiserations and hope you have a great birthday. By the way, when you see Ace tell him I've flown to New Zealand and robbed his house while he's away. SJ Debaser 14:59, 16 March 2012 (UTC)


How do I delete this? Proxima Centauri (talk) 17:35, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

You can't, it's transcluded from Wikimedia commons. Just remove the link. Sophiebecause liberals 17:38, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
See WM Commons deletion policy. You'll need a good reason for nominating it, that will have nothing to do with RationalWiki. I'd advise you not to bother. WěǎšěǐǒǐďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 17:41, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
It's OK, now I know it's from somewhere legit I'm trying to add it to the KKK article. Proxima Centauri (talk) 17:44, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Yo Yo[edit]

Hey man, was fucking great to meet you. You are indeed a kindly soul despite your racial handicap. AceModerator 19:26, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

What can I say, you're also a whitey so I have to be nice. Was great to sit down and have a chat - hopefully next time we can make a day of it. And if you ever need a roof over your head whilst in town... --PsyGremlinSermā! 09:20, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Grammar Nazi?!?!?!?[edit]

Sig Heil! The Punk Symphony of Noise Your mental puke relief 10:59, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm about to send you an e-mail.[edit]

Be waiting for it... P-Foster Talk "Armed with the knowledge of our past we can charter a course for our future"--MX 18:40, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Ah, so you're the little voice in my head... --PsyGremlin말하십시오 09:29, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Obvious vile trolling[edit]

Well, it was a crap article. Redchuck.gif ГенгисmaraudingModerator 10:42, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Ah, wonderful, wonderful context. Perhaps a name to research to see if it's worth something more than a footnote in numerology. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 10:50, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
I couldn't think of a better delete reason, and panicked. --PsyGremlinPrata! 11:12, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


Everybody here hitting been the crazy juice again or summat? CopperheadHisssssss 12:26, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Looks like it. Or else the long-term trolls are getting bored and deciding to go out in a blaze of "glory." --PsyGremlinRunāt! 12:38, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
he appears to be claiming credit for the recent vandalism at RW on RWW. Tielec01 (talk) 12:44, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Either he's taking a fall for his buddy-buddy or they're collabing. CopperheadHisssssss 12:49, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Or the theory that him, Brx and Manhe'strying are one and the same is true. --PsyGremlinParla! 13:11, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Or the theory that RW is far too tolerant of unproductive trolls who do nothing but piss people off is true, and these folks should've been shown the door ages ago. P-Foster Talk "Armed with the knowledge of our past we can charter a course for our future"--MX 13:15, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Good post! CopperheadHisssssss 13:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
That's something I've been saying for a while, starting with MC. We're simply too big and too exposed to keep up the pretense of being Human's little "open to the world cluster fuck." --PsyGremlin講話 13:24, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Rest assured that, having talked to Human in person, he got no problem with permabanning the likes of Brxbrx. The Punk Symphony of Noise Your mental puke relief 14:22, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
While Brxbrx is unquestionably subhuman scum, Human is pre-Blue's-self-righteous-sandy-vagina-May-2011 culture where we don't ban people for being irritating shitbirds. I'll let him speak for himself, but I sincerely doubt he's got no problem with any permabans, particularly when this community is so fucking bad at it in the first place. This is already embarrassing. Again. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 14:42, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Say what you will, Psy. You'd have never known the delight of making sweet love to any of us were it not for that policy. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 13:34, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes, but you were a lousy shag, so I take it all back. --PsyGremlin話しなさい 13:51, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

You were. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 13:55, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


I won't start a wheel war by unblocking User:I have not even one ounce of sympathy for Palestinian scum but I'd have waited till he did something. Proxima Centauri (talk) 15:42, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Why bother? --il'Dictator Mikal 17:24, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

A question for my South African e-acquaintance[edit]

I've recently become quite taken with the song The Lion Sleeps Tonight, and doing some research on it, I found that the excellent tune was in fact originally written by Solomon Linda, a singer from South Africa. If you didn't know (I really don't know how much you know, so please forgive me for being presumptive), the original was called mbube (which is Zulu for lion), and mbube is what the background choir sings in most versions. I don't know Zulu, and I don't know if you know Zulu, but I was wondering if you had any inkling as to its proper pronunciation. "Awimaweh" seems to be how it's sung by the Tokens, and I listened to Solomon Linda's original but I couldn't make out anything exact. If you could please provide me a phonetic English spelling or an onomatopoeia, I would be most delighted. Thank you.--"Shut up, Brx." 16:15, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Yebo, ngikhuluma isiZulu uBrx!
Not sure about phonetic spelling (seriously, does anybody other than extreme pencil necks understand that shit?), but it's pronounced "mm-boh-beh". 3 syllables. Think of the "m" as saying 'mmmm' if something's tasty, and shortening it. Know the original song well - Linda's family sued the US record company a few years ago for unpaid royalties and won. Score one for the little people.

--PsyGremlinSprich! 11:05, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, that is exactly what I meant by phonetic spelling/onomatopoeia (though I'm not sure if those are the same thing). Now I'll be able to sing along accurately! By the way, what does :Yebo, ngikhuluma isiZulu uBrx! mean? I'm afraid Google doesn't include Zulu in its list of languages it can translate to English. Thanks again, bro--"Shut up, Brx." 12:40, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Cool. It means "yes, I speak Zulu, Brx" --PsyGremlin講話 12:43, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Your userpage[edit]

Why do you use obnoxious font size="5" styles? (talk) 18:00, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey! Lay off. It's not like I walk into your bedroom and tell you how to masturbate properly. --PsyGremlin말하십시오 10:36, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

equals = Morning[edit]

Tres yummah! Tenk yew! --PsyGremlinZungumza! 13:02, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Awful, hideous goa trance[edit]

You must remember this one. AceModerator 13:07, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh good grief yes! Great producer, back in the day. Yikes, I'm getting old! --PsyGremlinSermā! 13:16, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Lets end on a high note...AceModerator 13:19, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Talk: Usury[edit]

Remind me, are we Zionist pricks or anti-Semitic rag-head lovers? I get confused. Redchuck.gif ГенгисmaraudingModerator 13:01, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

hang on, if it's the 2nd Monday of the month, then we must be Zionist pricks. We're rag-head lovers from Thursday onwards. --PsyGremlinHable! 13:03, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
I didn't realise there was system. Thanks! Redchuck.gif ГенгисmaraudingModerator 13:07, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Do try and keep up. You are on the distribution list of the "who do we hate today" memo. --PsyGremlinRunāt! 13:22, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Fine, fucking fine, techno[edit]

AceModerator 07:15, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Tres nice. Try this for size. --PsyGremlinПоговорите! 10:00, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit war[edit]

You blocked 2 edit warriors but left the third unblocked, you asked the blocked users to create accounts but prevented account creation. I blocked the 3rd one and enabled all three to create accounts, I assume you meant to do that. Proxima Centauri (talk) 10:50, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Well ok. What I wanted them to do was cool their heel for an hour. Trolls get bored if they can't troll and go away. --PsyGremlinПоговорите! 10:54, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Blocking me[edit]

Don't. ħumanUser talk:Human 02:47, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Ooh, I'm quaking in my shoes. How about you take your shit attitude and contempt for the people on this site and fuck off back to mcwiki? PsyGremlinTala! 07:20, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


How do you say ouch or ow in Zulu?--User:Brxbrx/sig 21:43, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

In Afrikaans you say "eina!" (pronounced A-Nah). AceModerator 21:48, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Indeed it is. Although pronounced more like ey-nah. (think 'hey' without the 'h'). As for Zulu, they don't really have a direct word for "ouch" or "ow" - they were tough motherfuckers. The word for "it hurts" is "ukubuhlungu" (uh-coo-buh-loon-goo), which is a lot to say when you've just hit your thumb with a hammer. Most common is the use of the slang words "eita" (ey-ta) or "eish". --PsyGremlin講話 08:28, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks--User:Brxbrx/sig 13:20, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Afrikaans? or Zulu? Afrikaans is sorta a dutch derivitive right? Do you also speak some/any/lots of Zulu Psy? What a cool language to have studied. So different from indoeuropean.--Green mowse.pngGodotWhy is being ignorant something to be proud of? 16:41, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm fluent in Afrikaans and can hold a conversation in Zulu. You're right - Afrikaans is a creole - the bastard child of Dutch, German, french, Malay, english. Mostly Dutch though. Zulu on the other hand is very different, loan words aside. It's also like Japanese, using a verb gerund which is modified according to use. It's also good at combining phrases into words. So 'place of sweet waters' becomes amazamtoti. PsyGremlinHable! 17:17, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Is amazamtoti what they call Vitamin Water bottling plants?--User:Brxbrx/sig 17:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
So agglutinating. Those drive me batty... i can't "find" my anchor points. Lakota is verb last and the subject is infixed (tipi - to live, plural ; timapi - we live). I've heard that some african langauge (which are not part of one, but thousands of families, so i don't remember which family) don't really even have nouns or verbs as we would understand it, but words modified to act like nouns or verbs. Language is much more fun when you get out of the indoeuropean roots, but i can't speak any of them with any degree of fluency, so I'm jealous!)--Green mowse.pngGodotWhy is being ignorant something to be proud of? 17:34, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Yikes, Lakota sounds hellish difficult. isiZulu isn't too bad. Something like 'khulume' is speak, but 'ukhulume' is 'you speak' and 'ingkhulume' is 'I speak.' where it gets tricky is when you're talking to one or many. If I say hello to you, it's 'saubona' but if I say hello to a group it's 'sanibonani'. They have some lovely turns of phrase though. If I ask how you are, i say unjani and the reply is sikhona. It actually means 'where are you?' and 'I am here.' Also when you leave, you say 'sala kahle' (the hl is like our sh) and 'hamba kahle' which means ' stay well' and ' go well' respectively. @brx. I have no idea what the isiZulu for that is - 'toti is a place on the east coast. PsyGremlinSpeak! 18:56, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
They sound similar, not that I'm saying they ARE similar, but in soem of their complexities. I can maybe write down sentences (the grammar will be horrible), and can do a fair job of picking it apart in written transcriptions of the oral language, but dear god listening to it makes me cry. Cause I can't figure out what words matter. :-) Lakota's pronouns for "he" or "she" don't exist. so you just say "did", I did, you did, did. we did, you all did, did. and reflexives? as you said, those get uber ugly. there are different "pronouns"(?) for "I to me" "I to you" "i to us" and "I to you all" so instead of saying I gave the book to you, you say "bleah the book". I never remember those when i try to speak, so am trying to attach an object pronoun and there aren't any. lol. ahhhhh languages. I'm envious, still, that you can speak one so intersting. even if it's not as fluent as you'd like it to be. Green mowse.pngGodotWhy is being ignorant something to be proud of? 19:12, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
PS, My step mother is trying to learn dutch. She's actually quite old now, and is very very "american" in that she sees teh world through her eyes. "They have all these stupid words they add. They don't mean anything". well, no, those are prepositions, enclitics, pronouns you don't have. "they mix up all their word orders... why do they do that".  ;-) I'd give her the riot act for being so american, but i do think it's cool that she's at least trying at 80something.Green mowse.pngGodotWhy is being ignorant something to be proud of? 19:12, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Good for her! My folks have lived here as long as I have and neither can speak a work of anything other than English. Ok, and Welsh, but that doesn't really help them here. The nice thing with Afrikaans is that is ditched a lot of the strange language rules that it's parent languages have. So only three tenses, almost no irregular verbs. Probably the strangest - which I assume comes from Dutch - is the double negative: I gaan nie huis toe nie (I'm not going home not) and the contraction of the Dutch "een" to "'n" for our "a". It's funny how languages generally evolved to be so damn complex. Even old English must have been a nightmare. Of course, most of our insane English rules now are thanks to arseholes in powdered wigs, who applied Latin rules to a language based on almost everything except Latin. --PsyGremlinHable! 12:38, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Poking Launchbooty[edit]

pasting this here, in case he doesn't approve the comment:

What you all need to remember is that this whole circus is not about Obama's eligibility. Not at all.

Sadly, all this does is two things. Firstly, it serves to feed the rabid right's rampant persecution complex (as we've seen here from all the whining about how "corrupt" and "inefficient" the courts who rule against the birthers are.) You have to remember that as a whole, this group is anti-establishment (and probably only a few steps from freemen on the land) and every smackdown they receive from the courts, state officials and the Hawaii authorities only serves to fuel their "look, see what the Man is doing to poor little us. We saw the exactly the same with Roseann's earlier post - it wasn't wondering about how they lost, what they did wrong, but rather it was all "Woe is us! We didn't win! Somebody doesn't like us!"

The second reason is more insidious, but also typical of the both the right's and the religious' tactics - to spread doubt. They aren't really interested in proving whether or not Obama is Kenyan or whatever - except for when it comes to TV ratings for Trump, or selling books, written by the "impartial" investigators (not to mention Jerome Corsi, who has been fired from his job for making false allegations).

No, all they want to do is create that "what if" moment amongst a segment of the population. It's exactly the same as Andrew Schlafly demanding that Richard Lenski deliver samples of his bacteria to Schlafly's study (or church basemen classroom) so he can study them himself. The minute Lenski refused, mostly because Schlafly was not qualified, nor did he have the equipment, that gave them grounds to say "See! He won't share the results! He must be hiding something!"

The one advantage with this, is that people who fall for the "what if" moment are 99% to be on that side of the fence anyway, and it's also fairly unlikely that we'll see any of this demographic develop a cure for cancer anytime soon.

If there is one advantage to all this, it's that it's made the far right look even more ridiculous and if anything has probably done a great deal to swell the ranks of those who see themselves as moderates, rather than be identified with the birther / tea party movement.

--PsyGremlinRunāt! 12:10, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

After TH ignore this twice, I posted

notice that Terry has twice refused to post my comments on the real reason why the birthers are pushing this agenda.

I guess that means I’m right.

To which he replied:

It means that you are attempting to commit libel, and I would be guilty of accessory to libel if I published anything like that.

If you accuse someone of non-performance of his work, you’d better have evidence to back it up. If not, that’s libel.

My reply:

All I’m doing is asking questions. Raising the issues. Why not publish what I posed and open it up to debate? There was nothing libelous there – that’s an old corny stand-by you use far too often when you want to censor material.

I find it laughable that you accuse Obama and liberals of everything under the sun, and yet worry about libel when it’s your and those like you, whose actions are queried. Take the judges who rule against you – do you think they’d take your claims of corruption, collusion and bribery lightly?

Let's see where this goes.

Ah, a reply.

I don’t debate libel or slander. That post was nothing more than argumentum ad hominem. “Don’t believe that guy; he got fired off his job for non-performance of work.” He could sue you for that second part (and sue me, too, if I let you publish that in my comment space). And whether he could or not, it doesn’t prove a thing.

My reply

Very well, remove that (very true) bit – it’s easy enough to Google to confirm. You also seem to be ignoring the rest of the post, merely because I attacked Corsi’s dubious character.

The fact remains that you can’t hide behind a libel defense, given what you’ve written about the judges who’ve ruled against the birthers. Or are you alowed to call them corrupt, because you disagree with them.

Not to mention the “raghead” post by another of your contributors.

Admit it, you’re just afraid to post the truth now that you’re “cause” has been exposed.

I don't think he understands where blame goes in the case of libel... Scarlet A.pngsshole 13:34, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
I love how he calls the anti-birther judges corrupt, but is worried about libel. --PsyGremlinSiarad! 13:59, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Don't be silly. Just like only liberals practice deceit, only liberals commit libel. MDB (talk) 13:53, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Where would we be without the good old conservative double standard. --PsyGremlinHable! 13:59, 15 June 2012 (UTC)


After many failed attempts,[1] [2][3]I managed to nominate you for moderator. You may accept or decline here--User:Brxbrx/sig 15:18, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll give it some thought. --PsyGremlin말하십시오 15:47, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Don't tax yourself too much. Redchuck.gif ГенгисmaraudingModerator 13:49, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Already declined. Where've you bin? --PsyGremlinTala! 13:52, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
I noticed but couldn't resist a kick to the shins. Redchuck.gif ГенгисmaraudingModerator 14:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 :) There's been a lot of shin kicking going on in my world today. I wonder if any notes are stuck to my back? --PsyGremlinSpeak! 14:25, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Waaaayz back[edit]

AceThe Rep Grows Bigger 12:04, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Nice one! You want to go way back? Here, have some classic Derrik Mays:

--PsyGremlinSnakk! 12:16, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

He he ehe he e no shit....It is 12:18am here and started my day off at 9:00am to this:

AceThe Rep Grows Bigger 12:19, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Heh! Great minds and all that jazz! --PsyGremlinParla! 12:23, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


How did I make you spray coffee? Was it "Ken has more socks..." or the weather in Terry's world? Or did I forget one of my sparkling witticisms? MDB (talk) 16:38, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

The weather one :) --PsyGremlinParla! 08:37, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Really? I liked "more socks" better. MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) (talk) 11:55, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Ah, but you see, I don't subscribe to the "washing machine eats socks theory" - I believe that socks are the larval form of wire coathangers. --PsyGremlinRunāt! 13:22, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Heretic. Socks are eggs from which wire coat hangers hatch. The coat hanger is the larval form of the racing bicycle. Sprocket J Cogswell Talk to Sprocket 14:47, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
My theory is that the dryer is a sock teleporter. Where does it send them? Sock-halin Island, of course. MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) (talk) 14:49, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
I'd block you for that, but the groan it evoked seems to have drained my soul... --PsyGremlinSpeak! 15:08, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Yay! I win! MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) (talk) 19:52, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
and here is your prize. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 21:48, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Aaaarrrr, me hearty![edit]

Did ye see that scalawag Terry Hurlbut is upset the landlubbers at the UN won't let the US sanction piracy anymore?

here's my response. I have no idea if he'll post it or not...

Actually, Terry, the US has followed an 1856 treaty against piracy, so the hideous conspiracy against privateering goes back even further. (

And we haven’t issued any letters of marque and reprisal since the War of 1812.

And thanks for the giggle this morning. Really, you want the US to go back to state-sponsored *piracy*. I’m picturing you, Andy Schlafly and Rand Paul setting out in a schooners, sailing the beautiful blue waters of the Caribbean, looking for fat French merchantmen, laden with gold and rum.

Aaaaarrrrr! MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) (talk) 13:43, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

The comments section of Terry's blog is where the true magic is. He just needs a bit of a poke and the crazy comes pouring out. Sadly, he doesn't seem to like my replies, after I called him either a liar or deluded for know knowing the Kochs are funding the Tea Party. --PsyGremlinSprich! 14:01, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
I just came up with the name for the my idea above: Terry and the Pirates. MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) (talk) 14:08, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Lol! I've decided to poke him with a big stick. I doubt these will appear, but it's fun to imagine him having apoplexy at his PC:

So outlawing piracy was a bad thing? let’s say the UN had existed in the 1860s, and had passed a treaty outlawing slavery.

What would your reaction be?

“Frankly, I have begun to re-examine and re-evaluate every alliance of which this country is a part.”

I know you’re an isolationist, but face it, your reviewing of the teaties isn’t going to change them. Sure, because when there was a Big Russian Bear, it was a really bad idea to be involved in the defense of Europe. Of course, it would have meant that the US didn’t get involved in that illegal mess that was Vietnam.

By the way, you must have been of draftable age around that time – what did you do during the Vietnam war, for the country you’re so proud of?

1. I don’t have figures to compare, but if taxes are higher then they’re re higher for those who can afford them. In addition, taxes had to be raised to fixed the financial disaster Obama inherited from Baby Bush. It’s funny how all the great financial crashes happen on a Conservative watch – Great Depression, savings and loan debacle, credit crunch. Coincidence? I wonder.

2. No it’s not. In your mind, maybe, but in the real world. No. You don’t even understand the statute, preferring to attach some weird conspiracy to it, that would require an army of millions to implement.

3. It’s laughable that you complain about the curriculum being “dumbed down” when you are a senior admin on a homeschooling site, where the “teacher” Andrew Schlafly gives full marks (as in Superb contrast.”) for answers such as “President Ronald Reagan had morals and did not have sex with an intern; President Bill Clinton did not have such great morals and had sex with an intern” when asking his history students “Contrast President Ronald Reagan with President Bill Clinton.”

If anybody is dumbing down his students’ learning, it’s this man, but you are strangely silent about that.

4. If you’re seriously saying that “Texas/Arizona/Oklahoma/Alabama/Mississippi/Georgia/South Carolina” aren’t conservative, then I’d love to see your definition of conservative. Unless, of course, you think these states, aren’t conservative, but insane – then I agree with you 100%.

5. And for that Obama must die!!!

--PsyGremlinTal! 14:10, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
I've asked him which alliances he thinks the US should have, and why. I won't be surprised if it's "just Israel, because God." MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) (talk) 14:32, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
I think Terry's really hoping a war breaks out in the Middle East. He thinks we're living in the End Times and war there will bring on Armageddon. Hence his dribbling about Syria and Egypt invading and the thing about settlements. The only reason he cares about Israel is that if it blows up, Jesus is coming. --PsyGremlinSiarad! 14:41, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
He seems to have changed his mind on several topics since this classic. rpeh •TCE 14:51, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
You don't even need "let’s say the UN had existed in the 1860s, and had passed a treaty outlawing slavery." After 1807, the U.K. was acting as a self-appointed de facto global police force working to end the Atlantic slave trade, and seized hundreds and hundreds of slave ships. Someone should ask Terry if limiting this particular commerce--some of which was bound for the US--was at all problematic. Theory of Practice Peer-reviewed articles for everybody! 15:03, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
If Terry is getting this batshit insane now, I can't wait until Obama win reelection. --PsyGremlin講話 15:20, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

My apologies[edit]

But how is having "Topic Header 4 Steaming turds Rational response" on a page a correct thing? Omni314 (talk) 12:44, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Not-so-subtle hint[edit]

Your blog post about Why you won't be blogging CNAV anymore would be a very good start towards an RW article on CNAV, which we don't have right now. Just sayin' is all... MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) 13:06, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm just wondering if a useless backwater like CNAV needs an article. It's hardly notable and is really just the rantings of an ever-more insane man and a rabid bitch. Maybe as an addendum to the TerryH article? --PsyGremlin 13:15, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Would be good to add to Terry's article. He doesn't deseve that high a profile on RW considering what he's got. Ochotonaprincepsnot a pokémon 13:20, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
True, but your blog post is such an excellent piece of the cast of loonies there. It should be preserved here, too.
Of course, part of why I asked is that my article has some ugly red text for a link to [Conservative News and Views].
Perhaps "CNAV" and "Conservative News and Views" could redirect to Terry's page, and Terry's page could link to your blog post. MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) 13:24, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Probably a redirect for now, with a section on CNAV, highlighting his recent crazy - birtherism, the UN is coming for your land/guns, the shooting thing. RoseAnn, on the hand, might be worthy of an article? --Psygremlin 13:28, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

You might wanna check this out.[edit]

Your sig is doing something weird. Theory of Practice "the standards of the site are ultimately an expression of the community makeup, and not a set of rules or policies." 13:15, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

You have subst in it, I assume? Scarlet A.pnggnostic 13:16, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Didn't used to have that, but I see it's there now.
[[User:Psygremlin|<b><font color="blue">PsyGremlin</font></b>]]{{SUBST:User:Psygremlin/sig|}}?
How do I fix? --Parlez!
remove subst. -- Nx / talk 13:21, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
If I remove it and save preferences, it comes back. What's going on? --PsyGremlin
Trent forgot to disable signature cleaning. -- Nx / talk 13:28, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Mine has "subst:expand:" and works fine. Scarlet A.pnggnostic 13:28, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
The problem is that you're forced to have subst in there, because signature cleaning is enabled. -- Nx / talk 13:29, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
I've removed it for now. --PsyGremlin


Howdy! I guess you probably know this, but please don't promote and ban anyone from the site. If Rob is really so vile, then you can start a vote to ban him. But it's not cool to just try to kick him out, any more than it would be cool if he decided to promote and ban you. It's really tempting to want to do something proactive against someone like that, especially since he has a slimy way of sidling into a new train of thought during arguments - if you disprove his claim that the sky is purple, he slithers into talking about the hue of clouds. But it really is best to just ignore him, because people should be allowed to have unpopular and even viciously wrong opinions without being banned by a more popular user, right? I know you'd defend that in principle, after all.

Thanks!--ADtalkModerator 23:42, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

There's been discussion on my talk page too Should this go to the Chicken Coop? Rob doesn't affect me too much but a lot of people are fed up of him and bureaucracy shouldn't stop us doing anything. Proxima Centauri (talk) 03:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

We tried to coop him just a few months ago, to no avail. Don't see it ending any different this time. Theory of Practice "the standards of the site are ultimately an expression of the community makeup, and not a set of rules or policies." 03:23, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
I disagree - look at all the posts on this site where we are pointing out the horrible people using this for their own gain. And yet we have somebody on this site doing exactly the same and we allow him to do so. This makes us hypocrites of the worst kind. Psygremlin (talk) 07:34, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
I am forced to differ with you fairly strongly. We have free discourse on RW, even to the extent of permitting reprehensible opinions. That does not mean we endorse every opinion on every talk page. What would make us hypocrites would be to decry when a country, group, or website acts to stifle a dissenting and unpopular view through arbitrary and unilateral whims, and then to do that same thing ourselves.--ADtalkModerator 08:02, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, but a position like that is complete and utter bullshit. Why are Americans as a whole unable to comprehend that with their precious Right to free speech, comes the obligation to use that right responsibly? It boggles the mind that people like Phelps can say what they want because they have a right to free speech, but cannot be held responsible for what they say.
By your own definition, RW could become another Metapedia can claim Hitler is awesome and all Jews should be shot, and there's nothing we could do about. Bullshit. By allowing hate speech on this site, we are no better than the sites we attack. And to say it's censorship is also bullshit. That's like saying wiping your ass after taking a dump is censorship. --Psygremlin (talk) 09:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
With all due respect, I'm not sure you're thinking this through.
"RW could become another Metapedia can claim Hitler is awesome and all Jews should be shot"
Why would this happen? Surely, you see there is a difference between someone voicing their opinion on talk pages, and what remains in articles. If someone says on Talk:Hitler that they think Hitler is awesome, that doesn't mean that we're endorsing that opinion, and no one's going to think that.
"And to say it's censorship is also bullshit."
Your colorful metaphor aside, it is censorship. Your refutation of that fact (which amounts literally to nothing more than "they are poop") does not hold up. Removing opinion from discussions, and then blocking people for holding those opinions, is obvious censorship. Sometimes that sort of censorship is reasonable: when that Springlyn troll rolls around and smears someone on our pages, we censor him by eradicating his "discussion" and banning him. But that's a very high bar, and Rob doesn't come anywhere near that sort of thing.
Don't forget: what you're saying when you personally decide to remove Rob's discussion from a talk page and then ban him from the site is that you, Psy, are in charge of him and a better sort of user. Because you're more popular, and people like you, and you agree with most things here. You're not in any danger of being censored and blocked in the same way, because you are usually pleasant and your opinions are usually in large consensus with everyone else's. And because of that, you get to decide when he is allowed to speak and which of his opinions are acceptable ones. Not because he's being particularly disruptive by spamming in all caps, and not because he's abusing his powers by blocking people for no reason, and basically not for any wrongdoing. You're saying that he does not hold the right opinions and dares to talk about them, and because you disagree with him so much, he's not allowed to even speak.
That is a heavy burden. You're not only deciding that you don't see anything worth talking about in Rob's words, ever, and that he doesn't even get to talk, but also that no one else should be allowed to hear his opinion - because it would, what, make us look bad to permit him to talk about bad opinions on our talk pages?
If you really, honestly think that it is self-evidently obvious that he must not be permitted to speak, then you should easily be able to get a vote to have him banned from the site. If it's so obvious, then it won't even kick up much of a fuss, because he'd be such an flagrantly vile troll that everyone will agree.
Failing that, you are not a special superuser. You can't simply decide whose opinion gets to stay, and when other people get to be heard. You can ignore someone with whom you disagree, or shout them down, or prove them wrong inch by inch. You can mock them so hard that the sheer force of your burning ire crashes through the wires and sinks into their eyes, driving them into blind foaming madness. But you can't appoint yourself in charge and remove them. I'm sorry.--ADtalkModerator 09:25, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
I think you'll find that I didn't act alone. There were more than enough people who were involved in blocking and promoting that scumbag, that it almost implies that you see yourself as a superuser by going against the will of those who wanted to censure (not censor - there's a difference) him. What makes you so special to say that they are wrong and you are right? --Psygremlin (talk) 09:30, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
"I think you'll find that I didn't act alone."
I know. PC, Ace, and several other people have blocked Rob and banned him from the site for whatever amount of time they felt like at the moment.
"What makes you so special to say that they are wrong and you are right?"
Well, I feel like I was acting in the spirit of the Community Standards. And I know just as many people agree with me as you - and in fact, probably a hell of a lot more. In fact, I'm so confident people agree with me, I'm willing and happy to urge you to call a vote. Call a vote today, tomorrow, or any time. Then you can get public vindication, and I will look like a fool.
If the vote passes and Rob is blocked, or the Community Standards are altered so that they say that any user who expresses really bad opinions can be blocked, you can justly rub it in my face. Every day you can, without any objection from me, post on my talk page about how wrong I was and how smart you are, because you knew that everyone would agree with you that Rob should be blocked from RationalWiki for having bad ideas. You can send me a package, and I can open it up and find a tiny white square, which I unfold to reveal an enormous banner printed on an infinitesimal thickness of paper and compressed with a vise, on which is emblazoned, "Fuck you and also your hair looks dumb." It will be really satisfying for you, and you can even do the banning yourself, and I'll petition to have to made the official Idea Police.
"censure (not censor - there's a difference)"
I know there is. To censure would be to engage in public and harsh criticism of someone; many legislative bodies will censure their members, expressing official disapproval. And that would be not just fine, but very appropriate in the case of an ass like Rob. But censoring someone is removing their words because of unacceptable content. That is what you did, as uncomfortable as the revelation might make you feel.--ADtalkModerator 09:44, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Really? Show me where I "removed their words because of unacceptable content." I did no such thing. I removed Rob because of what he said. Nowhere did I remove his comments, except for his trolling of my talkpage. --Psygremlin (talk) 09:51, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
"I didn't remove his words, I just banned him from the site for saying them." Golly.--ADtalkModerator 10:31, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Exactly - censure versus censor. Do I apologise for that? Hell no. And I certainly didn't act on my own. And if you can't grasp that, then you're as bad as Rob is. --Psygremlin (talk) 10:38, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Think of it this way, buddy.[edit]

I get where you're coming from. But: did you finally stop trolling CP because you got bored/it was no fun anymore/you figured it wasn't worth the effort, or was it because TK? Because if a troll wants to troll, the only way to stop him is to block his house, his office, his girlfriend's house, the public library down the street, the university, and every Starbucks in a 10 k radius from his bed. We don't want to be that guy. It's up to Rob to decide not to troll anymore. Theory of Practice "the standards of the site are ultimately an expression of the community makeup, and not a set of rules or policies." 13:47, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I was hardly trolling CP. The fact still remains that there is no mechanism for telling somebody they've crossed a line and need to take a walk around the bock. Because there's always some fucker whining "Wah! But we haven't got a rule for that!" --Psygremlin (talk) 13:51, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Remove Rob and you remove a voice of moderation. The same thing happened in CP. I came to RW because it was growing and promoted the idea of diversity. It was founded for that reason. The record in CP, in RW, and in Conservaleaks bares out I've always promoted consensus, moderation, tolerance, reasonable discussion, civility, and adherence to written standards all have access to.
I buried any notion of vindictiveness publicly, and have made efforts to be a team player, but have always drawn the line at CP, WP, or Rationalwiki when the demands came to be a heal clicking automaton. I've never abused you or your narrowminded view of the world in any public forum (that I recall) for holding the opinion that anyone who disagrees with you must either be a Fred Phelps follower or Hitler re-incarnation, and must be destroyed. Rationalwiki needs independent, moderate voices to defend itself against the sometimes over-the-top tendencies it's prone to when pursuing its Mission.
So now TK's gone, Karajou is inaccessible outside CP, and I'm an easy target for the venom you feel toward Andy, Ken and anything deemed "conservative" or "right wing". But for all the wailing I endured from TK & Karajou about you, Conservaleaks bares me out as a consistent voice advocating engagement and dialogue, and not mindlessly stomping you out to silence you.
And it's simply not true when you twice denied above reverting comments for TWIGO, cause you did. That sort of duplicity is what causes me to take a harsh tone with you now, which I apologize for. nobsCorporations are people, too 16:03, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
And why you ran around to RWW and posted crap I had sent to Kara. Don't believe everything you see in an e-mail. The fact remains that you deliberately set out to link the killings to unemployment and therefore to Obama, ignoring all the complaints and the fact that SirChuck was worried about friends would might have been caught up. You are a terrible person. --Psygremlin (talk) 16:14, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
(ec) Don't derail the subject - Why RWW has a Stalkbox Template is another matter for users of RWW to debate and decide. And the other answer is no, I joined into the criticism of Senior CP sysops knowing the full well the danger other Rationalwiki editors were taking in trying to exploit a tragedy to score political points against Conservapedia. I even tried to warn RW ediitirs of the danger of this path, and weighted it by showing CP was not using the most obvious and effective criticism. nobsCorporations are people, too 16:38, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
"The fact still remains that there is no mechanism for telling somebody they've crossed a line and need to take a walk around the block." Exactly. Unless you want to start range-blocking all of New Mexico, there is NO WAY to keep a bully from coming here to bully the community. Ignore him, delete his posts on site, troll-box him, but if he wants to edit, he will edit. It's up to him to grow up and realize he is an asshole, not intelligent enough to participate in our conversations, and basically unwanted here. We can't force that on him. Theory of Practice "the standards of the site are ultimately an expression of the community makeup, and not a set of rules or policies." 16:23, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Sure, the man who wants to save RW's image persists in impugning moderate voices with innuendo. nobsCorporations are people, too 16:38, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh, and can someone please fix the Locale:United States of Conservapedia; I have been indefinitely blocked from Conservapedia for being an active member of a "vandal site." nobsCorporations are people, too 17:32, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Seriously, you calling yourself the voice of moderation, is like saying Jeffrey Dahmer "felt a bit peckish when he had a date over." --Psygremlin (talk) 09:20, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


I just booked tickets to Japan for 3 weeks in March. Jealous? AceThe Rep Grows Bigger 02:36, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

I hate you so much right now. Enjoy! Make sure you spend some time in Akihabara and a maid cafe. Psygremlin (talk) 06:41, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Wooohoooo! AceThe Rep Grows Bigger 07:04, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh dear... that just looks like trouble waiting to happen! --Psygremlin (talk) 09:15, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Your New Law[edit]

Has another bit of evidence. You have to admire the way their main message comes from a JPG that no search engine on earth will be able to read (because liberals). rpeh •TCE 19:55, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Heh, man that page is a laugh-a-minute source of what the fuckery. Well played, Rpeh. AceThe Rep Grows Bigger 23:41, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Oh gawd... more craziness from Tossbotty and RoseAnn Unsanitary. And yup, no search engine on earth is going to pick up their banner thing. Also love how most of the comments under the "about us" section are clearly from spammers. Good find, Rpeh. --Psygremlin (talk) 08:53, 4 August 2012 (UTC)


After your recent failed coup attempt and trolling the coop, would you now be of a mind to actually debate someone who holds views differing to your own? I believe a case can be made that your attempts to liquidate me run contrary to the RationalWiki Mission Statement, and amount to an effort to promote junk science. Care to have an honest, free flowing, open discussion here or on my user page? nobsCorporations are people, too 16:58, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

"an effort to promote junk science." and with that comment you lose. Fuck off Rob. You are clearly not well. Go and dance on some more graves. PsyGremlinPrata! 19:34, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Discussion moved. nobsCorporations are people, too 20:08, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


I have sent you an email. SophieWilder 21:20, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

You mean the mail telling me you'd posted on my wall, telling me you'd sent me a mail, which was about you posting on my wall telling me you'd sent me a mail... PsyGremlinRunāt! 05:20, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Yup :) SophieWilder 07:30, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Kept me busy for hours that did. Ooh! Mail! Ooh! A wall post! :-) PsyGremlin話しなさい 08:28, 17 August 2012 (UTC)


By Larry Bond. Ever read it? ТyNot updated with a witty slogan this week 03:45, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Doesn't ring a bell. Any good? PsyGremlinPraat! 05:22, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Very dated, but very interesting. About a hypothetical right wing take over of South Africa and the ensuing war. ТyNot updated with a witty slogan this week 06:48, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Riotous assembly was more fun. SophieWilder 07:41, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Agree 100%. Riotous Assembly and Indecent Exposure are probably the two best satires relating to apartheid out there. Also the thing with a right wing take over is we currently have a treason trial on the go for a bunch of nutters who were planning a coup. PsyGremlinZungumza! 08:24, 17 August 2012 (UTC)


Sir, just Bravo. Hipocrite (talk) 16:39, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

User-space redirects[edit]

Pardon me, but there are several broken and double redirects in your old user-spaces. I don't know protocol, but could you please take care of them sir or madame? :) Winter Whisper (talk) 02:41, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

There's no protocol, if you see something that needs fixing, go ahead and fix it. --PsyGremlinKhuluma! 14:25, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Worldly clogs[edit]

I don't object to you moving my 'twitternigger' from World to Clogs but don't you think your Donald Trump post should also have been there? I'd have moved it myself but it had already garnered some votes. Redchuck.gif ГенгисRationalWiki GOLD memberModerator 16:52, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

This is about me upstaging your blog isn't it? ISN'T IT??!
/runs to room
/slams door
--PsyGremlinSiarad! 16:54, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
No it's not! But, mine got 180 hits, how about you? Redchuck.gif ГенгисYou have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you.Moderator 17:16, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 :) 161 so far. I've swapped them back by the way. Your argument was persuasive. --PsyGremlinParlez! 17:24, 7 November 2012 (UTC)


Errr They haven't started doing anything yet.Evil fascistoh noez 13:56, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Oh. Give me back the goat then. And weekend leave is cancelled! --PsyGremlinKhuluma! 14:28, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
You cook it then. Evil fascistoh noez 14:39, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Is it true?[edit]

...that you only came back here because you heard we'd installed squid? SophieWilder 10:24, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

What can I say, I'm a sucker for tentacles. --PsyGremlin話しなさい 10:27, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Mod nom[edit]

This is a courtesy call to let you know that someone has nominated you for moderator. Please go here to accept or reject the nomination. Cheers. Blue Talk 10:02, 14 December 2012 (UTC)


NZ on track to beat the best cricket team in the world. On your home soil too. Boom! Acei9 20:05, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

That's an amazing comeback considering NZ were 0/1 after three overs. rpeh •TCE 20:29, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Considering the NZ cricket is usually fucking shit at everything they do I call it damned fucking amazing. Acei9 20:41, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure what's going on with our one-day side (besides missing a bunch of players) - but a well deserved win, especially after the amazing escape you had in the first game. Well deserved. Of course, we won't say anything about the Test matches *cough*45allout*cough* --PsyGremlinFale! 01:47, 23 January 2013 (UTC)


Fuck you, you fucking bastards. 6 off the last ball? Cunts. Acei9 04:37, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Good way to finish, although we didn't deserve to win. Our one day side has... issues. AB clearly isn't captain material, and it's affecting his game too. Too many bits & pieces bowlers & batsmen too. But the youngsters showed some promise. At least your guys showed they have some fight in them. --PsyGremlinFale! 12:39, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Ja, true. Acei9 12:45, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Oh, and another thing, I am coming back over in September next year. Might seem a long way off but I have started making plans to do an 8 day self-drive in the Kalahari, Vic Falls and a few days in Jo'Burg. Hope you are around. Acei9 20:48, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Hell yes, I'll be around. Hopefully we can spend more than a glass of champers together this time. --PsyGremlinSiarad! 22:17, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Sweet, will be good to catch up again. Acei9 23:14, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

The kind of sustained insanity him and Insanitary are spouting....[edit]

Who's "Insaniatry"? Link? Theory of Practice "...and we do love you madly." 14:24, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Insanitary is RoseAnne Salanitri. And in case it comes up, Skin Disease is Nicholas Purpura. rpeh •TCE 14:29, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
You crazy kids with your slang and your hair and your music. Theory of Practice "...and we do love you madly." 14:31, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I'll be there. Will you?[edit]

Theory of Practice "...and we do love you madly." 01:07, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Er... Detroit. So, unless you're planning to buy me a plane ticket, then no. --PsyGremlin話しなさい 07:47, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, can't do that. You should sell your car or your kids or something. Theory of Practice "...and we do love you madly." 13:25, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
looks like a good party though, although I'm not the biggest techno fan. Enjoy it! --PsyGremlinPraat! 14:10, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Wait, I thought you were a huge techno fan/DJ/always posting that sort of thing/I'm obviously w to electronic music/what the hell is it that you listen too then? Theory of Practice "...and we do love you madly." 14:14, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Lol, no Ace is the resident techno head around here :) I'm more into progressive trance and electronica in general :) --PsyGremlinSnakk! 14:22, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

One for your blog?[edit]

I just clogged this but wanted to bring it to your attention in your role as official summariser of all that is utterly moronic. Just read it and weep. rpeh •TCE 08:33, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

What the cunting fuck?? I don't even... *cries* Now I just have to see what else she's written! Thank you, I think... --PsyGremlinSiarad! 09:22, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
I thought you'd "like" that one :) rpeh •TCE 10:17, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Sugar man[edit]

You should watch this. Acei9 01:37, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Seen it! Flippin' awesome. plus the concert footage they show was the concert I was at :) Saw him on the 18th again when he toured here. Guy is getting old, but he's still got it. --PsyGremlinSpeak! 06:53, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Watched it last night in a big outdoor theater downtown. Half the crowd of 1000+ were in tears near the end - I was feeling pretty emotional myself. Fantastic film. He is playing here 16 March but I'll be flying into Tokyo about the time he comes on. A shame though. Acei9 08:08, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Such a humble guy. Strange how he never made it big in the US, they really missed a trick there. --PsyGremlinSermā! 10:59, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Enjoy Tokyo! I also hate you forever. :) --PsyGremlinPrata! 11:00, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Next month..on this day..[edit]

I'll be here. I'll have you in mind and take many photos for you. Acei9 10:22, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh wow... that looks but awesome and insane. In other words, totally Japan! Hope you have Akihabara and a maid cafe or two on your schedule too! --PsyGremlinHable! 10:50, 22 February 2013 (UTC)


Well excuse me!" SophieWilder 13:22, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Hoppy Brithday![edit]

Hippy Borthdai! rpeh •TCE 20:00, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! --PsyGremlinParlez! 21:53, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

About the wasp guy[edit]

The comments bring up the fact that the source seems to be some sort of Swedish Onion. And the site itself seems to support it, if Google Translate isn't completely misleading. Ochotona princepsnot a pokémon 22:12, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I think that makes me feel far happier about the general nature of the human race. I'll blank it out. --PsyGremlin말하십시오 22:25, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Protection of my page[edit]

Hi, I'd like to protect my page from vandalism (by the user "Eveshi") and leave RationalWiki, as I'm no longer interested in posting here. Max (talk) 22:06, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome to leave, but we don't protect pages here - certainly not indefinitely. Actually, we don't delete talk pages either, they should be archived. If it's vandalised, somebody will revert it. And why worry, seeing as you won't be here anymore any way? --PsyGremlinFale! 22:11, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
I did undo the deletion. How do I archive the page? Max (talk) 22:18, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
I have wanted to leave this website for over a month (two infact) but MU keeps turning up on IPs or fake accounts and either vandalizing the pages I created or ruining archived pages on Mind energy forum or Andrew Chung archived page - No other user on this website seems to care and it has only been me reverting him. He's even been messing up archived pages and nobody does anything. Whenever I ban him, my bans get reverted by another user. The so called "vandal bin" is an embarrassment. He needs a perm ban. I have also locked your page once due to the abuse and my own one but it was reverted. There's no winning on this website, no offence to this website but there is no community on here and nobody cares about anything else. If you look over my edits on this website you will see that I was perhaps one of the only constructive editors who has created many articles on evolution/science. In response I don't get nothing but some troll (MU) now ruining some of my threads. His fake account "Eveshi" is not his first. The only thing to do is walk away and never ever come back. I have said over ten times I am going to do this, but it is rather annoying to think that as soon as you are gone your talk page or articles are getting vandalized. But I am afraid that will probably be the case. Logging off now, not coming back. Make sure to archive your talkpage Max. Forests (talk) 22:19, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Linking wigos[edit]

Don't you think it's kind of stupid not to link active WIGOs on WIGO pages? As in, blitheringly stupid? Especially on the smaller WIGOs themselves?

I can understand not including it on the main page if they are smaller, but it seems nonsense in a supposedly coherent list. (talk) 11:31, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry yourself about it. There never was a NAV for CZ and a collective decision was taken to remove CP. --PsyGremlinPraat! 11:38, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Jewish Nobel Prizes[edit]

Please revert the deletion of this article. There is a longstanding scientific debate about the IQ of Ashkenazi Jews, with legitimate peer-reviewed contributions, and suggested explanations. The list of Jewish Nobel Prizes is used in that context, and its usage has become politicised. It is indeed used for the purposes which I noted: as evidence of a higher Ashkenazi IQ, to bolster patriotic pride in Israel, and to disparage Muslims. See the relevant Wikipedia article for the list itself, and for the Ashkenazi IQ controversy. Dawkins use of the claim was well publicised, and is still on his Twitter account. There was nothing unsubstantiated in my article. The way the list of Jewish Nobel Prizes is used does reflect badly on those who use it, including Dawkins and the Jewish organisations which circulate the list. That is not however, a reason to delete the article. It was also intended to assist expansion of the Nobel Prize article itself, to include 'stolen prizes' claims and other controversies. Drelane (talk) 12:06, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Not going to happen. Take your anti-Semitic bullshit to Metapedia. --PsyGremlinSprich! 12:33, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
What starts with a "w" and rhymes with Jew? This guy needs to meet IE. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 13:49, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Imma gonna make him my Brx... :) --PsyGremlinSiarad! 16:15, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
EC. Psy, baby, you know I love you, and, please, baby, please, call me out if I'm missing something here, but I'm not sure what the problem with this is:
The prizes are also used as propaganda, especially as an indication of national achievements, and in favour of claims to group superiority. Approximately one-fifth of Nobel Laureates are Jewish, and that has been cited by among others Stephen Pinker as evidence for "an advantage in average intelligence among Ashkenazi Jews ". [4] The number of Jewish laureates has also been used for unfavourable comparisons with Muslims, by among others Richard Dawkins [5].
It reads to me like it's calling out people for using a narrow reading of individual achievement to make a bullshit argument about a general population, or to denigrate another group, in the case of Dawkins. What am I missing? (..I do note the user-in-question's user page has something about "European issues," which could well be a sign of something problematic....) On the other hand, Nutty has Brx, I have IE, and we all need a hobby, so, yeah, fire away... PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 16:17, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
I think that Psy had a strong reaction to the initial article and then got carried away. From their other contributions, it appears that Drelane is here to fart in the general direction of Islamophobia in Europe, which is consistent with a certain type of European lefty (or a Muslim :)), not an antisemite.--ZooGuard (talk) 18:26, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Call me cynical, but when a n00b turns up and immediately starts writing about teh Joos... and knows where the Chicken Coop is, I'm suspicious. I still think it's something that has nothing to do with this site's mission. PsyGremlinTal! 18:42, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
I agree with the noob/Jews/Coop thing being eye-openers. I think that what he wrote is missionable, but only to the extent of it being worth a sentence or two. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 18:44, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Agree ToP. At best it merits a minor addition to the Evil Jew article. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 18:47, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

More than just comfort[edit]

Nice find. Acei9 08:22, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Ta. On the blog of a guy calling himself "The Caneterbury Atheist" - just another godless antipodean... PsyGremlinSnakk! 08:27, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Your prediction[edit]


When I saw your prediction, I initially misread it as "the next winner of the 2016 Presidential election will win both the popular vote and the electoral college", and I was going to chide your for making a prediction as incontrovertible as "the next pope will be male" and "birds will continue pooping on your car". Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 09:31, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Ah, the dreaded Monday morning reading comprehension... :) --PsyGremlinFale! 09:48, 28 October 2013 (UTC)


I haven't harrassed you with strange links lately. TIME FOR SOME FUN STUFF.

---This gum. You need it. 2.
---Hehehehe. This anime. Is full of WTF-ery. Have you seen it yet?

3.Slightly NSFW. But still funny.Yondemasuyo,_Azazel-san...such a strange...but funny anime.

---Psy Parody. 'Byuntae' means pervert in Korean. — Unsigned, by: Dumpling / talk / contribs 2012-08-28T22:13:34‎

Question for a Seffrican[edit]

So do South African companies/sports teams/etc use, say, Zulu imagery as a means of promotion the same way that North Americans use their countries' Native populations? PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 17:07, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Not so much really. Our cricket & rugby teams have fairly generic names, that relate somehow to the province (Natal Dolphins & Sharks; Western Province Cobras & Stormers; etc). Probably the closest we've ever come is having a giant Zulu warrior do a war dance, just before the Springboks run on to the field. But we don't have anything like, say, the Washington Redskins. Probably out of fear of offending somebody - if you use, say, Xhosa imagery, then you're going to piss off the Zulus, Vendas, Tswanas, etc, etc (because, trust me, they hate each other more than the English and Scottish hate each other!). That said, we did have a pro soccer team with the wonderful name of Dangerous Darkies... Even product advertising doesn't use cultural stereotypes that I can think of, although there was this lovely example of how technology was affecting rural areas. --PsyGremlinHable! 18:30, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Kevin Martin[edit]

You blocked him? But he's the funniest buffoon we've seen for a while!--Weirdstuff (talk) 20:27, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Seriously, you wont let him play here? Kinda ruined my day :(. He'll probably kick your internet ass for blocking his FREE SPEECH, watch out this guy brought down Google and Encyclopedia Dramatica without breaking a sweat. --Marlow (talk) 20:34, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Nobody threatens Sophie without getting taken out back and shot. --PsyGremlinHable! 20:38, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Word. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 20:39, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
It's all relative. A threat to dox someone from Kevin is like a hug from most people. He only has two speeds: babbling self important expert mode and impotent menacing internet tough guy mode. Oh well. We'll have to invite him back to the rational wiki Facebook page for another round of bizarre threats and intense bigotry. --Marlow (talk) 20:42, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Psy and Powder, you are both lovely but I can look after myself. Anyone called Kevin is no danger. SophieWilderModerator 22:00, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
"Psy & Powder" - sounds like some 70s cop show. Probably featuring two undercover hippies. --PsyGremlin話しなさい 22:09, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
As long as I get to drive the car. All I need are sideburns and mirrored shades. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 22:11, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

The Ashes[edit]

Gentleman's bet that England win 3-2--Mercian (talk) 09:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Deal. I'm going 2-1 to Aus, 2 drawn. The Aussies seem to be getting their team right again, home ground advantage and England's bowlers have looked very poor in the warm-up games. --PsyGremlinSnakk! 09:11, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


I'm sorry Mr. Gremlin, I must have had a brainfart. Although I did wonder why there was no "Add topic" tab. PongoOrangutans are sceptical 18:07, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

That's fine. Just go and stand in the corner and think about what you've done... :) --PsyGremlinFale! 18:23, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Just admit it....[edit]

I know it was you.... PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 05:22, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Lol. Nah, I'm not on Twitter that much :) Also the ultimatum bit was a bit of a douchebag move, I would have turned into more of a Landover Baptist account. Wait... are you implying I'm a douchebag??? You wanna take this outside? :) --PsyGremlinSiarad! 05:45, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Your blog[edit]

Shame to see it is rarely updated :( Anyway, who is the middle aged woman on the far left(on the page that is, not far left as in Arthur Scargill) gobbing off and pointing to a piece of paper? God she look obnoxious with up notation applied. Read the Schlafly article on E=mc2, how does he think his beloved nukes work?--Mercian (talk) 07:26, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I know. :( I really should try and kick some life back into it. I think the problem was I was dealing with wingnut burnout - having to read their stuff, then try and parse it and comment on it. The other problem was that having ditched Conservapedia as a main source, there was less "WTF?!" craziness that could be spun for fun, and more just plain bigoted hatred that I was coming across and it was all getting a bit too much. I have a bunch of stuff in my "blog" folder, so hopefully soon I'll get the wheels spinning again. The woman you mentioned is Orly Taitz, birther supreme... --PsyGremlinHable! 08:19, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

He blocks to the left, he blocks to the right, oh Psygremlin, your blocking is shite[edit]

Speaking of which, I believe Mitchell is back in favour--Mercian (talk) 07:03, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Mitchell? --PsyGremlinZungumza! 07:07, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Mitchell Johnson, surely you must have heard the Mitchell Johnson song?[6] Beautifully sung by a group of pissed up pommies --Mercian (talk) 07:11, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Oh him. Man with the 2nd worst bowling action in the world? Look on his day he can be devastating - remember him taking 8 against us last we were there (we still won though :) ), but if they get after him, he can go to pieces very quickly. That said, the Aussie bowling looks a bit suspect for the first test - Siddle, Johnson, Harris, Lyon, with Faulkner and Watson (maybe). They're still suffering for never grooming an understudy to Warne. Instead of Faulkner I'd like to see Bollinger, Hillfenhaus, Starc or even Cutting or Copeleand get a run. Their batting looks ropey too - besides Clarke, there's nobody in that top order I'd put money on to play a long, match-saving innings. First Test to England. --PsyGremlinПоговорите! 07:26, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
I thought you an aussie, I sincerely apologise:), Kiwi? Our bowling is hit by the fact that the Australian pitches don't turn much,so Swan will be less effective than normal, Broad can be great but can be awful at times, as for Anderson, he is not the the most talented bowler by a long way but what he does have is fantastic consistency--Mercian (talk) 07:33, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Me? I'm a Sauff Effricen :) So effectivly neutral, although I hate the Aussies more :) Swann's never been a big turner of the ball, but has great flight and speed variation, that's what makes him dangerous. Anderson's like a McGrath or Pollock, just keeps putting it on the same spot and let's the batsman make the mistake. Plus he's very good at late and reverse swing. The problem with England's team is that it doesn't really allow them to play 4 seamers and Swann, otherwise an attack of Anderson, Broad, Finn and Tremlett would be pretty damn potent. Maybe Cook, Root, Trott, Pietersen, Bell, Prior / Bairstow, Broad, Swann, Tremlett, Finn, Anderson. Yeah, that's what I'd pick. --PsyGremlinKhuluma! 08:04, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

6 wickets for 9 runs, oh dear--Mercian (talk) 05:59, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Couldn't believe it when I heard it on the news this morning. England haven't collapsed like that since they played the Windies in the 80s. Doesn't bode well for them - Aussies have at least 4 sessions to set a massive target. PsyGremlinParla! 06:13, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Game over mate, I would offer 25-1 on an England win from this position.--Mercian (talk) 06:27, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
It would take a miracle of Botham-esque proportions to win this one. They're probably all doing rain dances in the change room. Still, 1-0 down with 4 to play, it's not over yet. PsyGremlinПоговорите! 07:15, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


You didn't appreciate my latenight / early morning nonsense? This fish is hurt. TT---TT
Though, I'm a cat, not a fish. Oh well. You were chosen for that random message because you were the only one I recognized in "Recent Changes". Hope you are well. Kettle Kin (Version 2.0) 23:45, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back, but wtf are you talking about? --PsyGremlinSpeak! 06:21, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
He's talking about this edit. I knew it smacked of somebody, but couldn't remember who. I originally was thinking Pintos5150, but knew that was the wrong answer. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 11:53, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Oh, the wiki equivalent of being drunk dialed... --PsyGremlinSprich! 12:00, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Essentially. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 12:01, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

That revert at Skeptiko forum[edit]

See Talk:Skeptiko forum#So, which website is this article about? Something needs to be done about that article, though I'm not sure removing the quotes is the right way. In all cases, the claims and actions by "Skeptic12" should be taken with a grain of salt.--ZooGuard (talk) 17:11, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

There's been so much edit warring on that page that I leery of any large edits, especially by users with red user names. Fine, the article needs sorting out / renaming. It's not getting done by people who clearly have a dog in that fight. --PsyGremlinFale! 17:19, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Your opinion on something.[edit]

I am beginning to think that the left/right political spectrum is less of a line but more of a horseshoe where the two extremes almost but not quite meet. I have (almost) the same intolerance for the far left than I do for the far right. But see benefits in both centre left and centre right policies. Do you get where I am coming from? I would best describe my views as pre 2003 New Labour--Mercian (talk) 23:07, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

I agree with you there - the minute you head out into the fringes, no matter which side of the spectrum you're on, you're going to find distasteful elements, like having Pat Robertson on one end of the horseshoe, and Cathy Brennan on the other.I'm pretty sure political belief across a population also forms a bell curve, which is why for all the years you had a Kinnock-led Labour Party, they couldn't beat Thatcher, no matter how awful she was, because they were too far to the left of the general bell curve. The same will happen to the Tea Party nationally - any TP endorsed candidate will be too far to the right of the curve to win an election. --PsyGremlinParlez! 06:53, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Sad day to be a South African.[edit]

Or a human for that matter, not often a news story brings a tear to my eye.--Mercian (talk) 07:24, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. But it's proof of his legacy that now, more than ever, the country is united in mourning his, as much as it was in celebrating his life. --PsyGremlin말하십시오 08:35, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

I have just sent you[edit]

a very important e-mail.... PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 16:08, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Received, read, replied. PsyGremlinSnakk! 16:33, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
I would also like to be sending and receiving important emails. Where do I subscribe? Occasionaluse (talk) 16:44, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
You should be more worried about these pictures I'm about to e-mail to your wife. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 16:46, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Is this yours?[edit]

I found this kind of pretending to be in your User space. I would have figured Afrikaans, maybe, but not Portuguese. PowderSmokeAndLeather (talk) 01:21, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Not mine. looks like a new spam tactic? Ta for the heads up. Deleted. PsyGremlinZungumza! 06:27, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Cool, but it wasn't spam -- it was an article on Creationism in Portuguese, with a relevant link. Weird. PowderSmokeAndLeather (talk) 13:24, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Any chance[edit]

Of a private word?--Mercian (talk) 22:40, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Where? You can drop me a message if you'd like? --PsyGremlinZungumza! 22:51, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

US solar[edit]

Think I recall that story from about 2 months ago(?)Scream!! (talk) 12:35, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Thought so: actually Feb! Scream!! (talk) 12:41, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
(EC) :Actually worse - it's from 2013, now that I look. Lemme hide it and my shame. PsyGremlinZungumza! 12:42, 16 May 2014 (UTC)


Long time no hear. The sysopping thing re: Mongoose? You were right, that shouldn't have happened. The rest of that mess isn't really productive. Maybe it's time for we old-timers to put our feet up, crack an ale, and let these crazy kids fix the world. This is no wiki for old men like you and I. Father Vivian O'Blivion (talk) 16:02, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Enh. Psy was just saying what me and all my socks were thinking. For that I am thankful. Unique pinion (talk) 16:05, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately I've got many, many years invested in this wiki, to simply stand back and let some obnoxious-as-fuck n00bs run around and think they can do what they want. Especially when their first reaction is to pull attitude. Still, at least I wasn't accused of pulling cishet privilege for taking Mongoose's mop away, so that's a plus. PsyGremlinZungumza! 16:08, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
How the fuck dare these people just, like, do first-draft shit like this, next everyone will be using references and then where will we be? FIGHT TEH POWAH. - David Gerard (talk) 21:04, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
What the fuck does this have to do with anything? This wasn't even by the person who started the mess. Are you trying to help, or just deliberately being a tool? PsyGremlinZungumza! 21:50, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
If Mongoose had made contributions like that, things probably would have unfolded differently. Not sure I see the relevance. Father Vivian O'Blivion (talk) 21:07, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
They're all my mates; obnoxious gender people. :P ·Femilisk 21:12, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Being obnoxious shouldn't be a character trait to aspire to. PsyGremlinZungumza! 21:52, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
The relevance is that these are all the RW Facebook recruits Psy is oldmaning at clouds about. CONSERVAPEDIA IS DEAD. IT'S 2014 NOW. Told you I'd get the kids citing their shit - David Gerard (talk) 21:16, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
I quick check of our Community Standards shows that we generally wait to demote users to sysop these days, giving them an "autopatrolled" trial first before they reach sysop. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 19:08, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Wow, way to throw the wiki under the bus. You know damn well that people aren't sysopped immediately upon joining. Don't even try and make it about something else. Good, so now Mongoose ghas stopped making troll comments and is actually contributing. If they do a few more good edits, they can get a bucket and mop. Who gives a flying fuck where they come from? I have no problem with them contributing, I have a problem with new accounts being sysopped. Especially when their first posts are in bad faith. PsyGremlinZungumza! 21:27, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
It seems to me like there are quite a few over-reactions going around with very little justification for it altogether. Last I checked, this issue seemed to be resolved a while ago, so why does it keep surfacing? - Grant (talk) 21:43, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
I dunno, I'd wrapped it up ages ago. Seems that some people are still butthurt that they didn't get their way for some reason, and feel the need to whine about it here. Makes you want to question their motives. PsyGremlinZungumza! 21:45, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm going to try a different tack and aim for making myself universally unpopular (assuming I'm not already) by suggesting that perhaps folks from both sides of the aisle are contributing to this continuing escalation. Regardless of who started all of this, the bickering back and forth isn't helping, I imagine. - Grant (talk) 21:49, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
People talk shit on my talk page, I'm going to respond. PsyGremlinZungumza! 21:54, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Sure, and you're well within your right to do so. I popped in to voice a quick opinion/observation is all. Take from it what you will. - Grant (talk) 21:56, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
You misunderstand, Psy. It's not butthurt. Some people just find you almost, but not quite, as pleasant as King Henry VIII of England when he was in the throes of syphilitic dementia.Raysenn: questions other's integrity, doxes people. (talk) 16:45, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Necroing a three-days-dead argument is a very good way to ensure community tranquillity. Oh, wait, it's the other thing. 17:22, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Clearly some precious little snowflake felt the need for some attention. PsyGremlinZungumza! 18:59, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm a Brit[edit]

But visit your fair country fairly often. Oldusgitus (talk) 18:56, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Hit us up next time you're in Jo'burg. We'll do a beer or three. PsyGremlinZungumza! 05:48, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Not likely to be for a good few months, been over for ill father (and then funeral) 3 times this year now. Likely early next year for a trip to the park to scatter the ashes but will do. Oldusgitus (talk) 11:45, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Quick question for you about the origins of iron working in sub saharan africa if you can[edit]

Was it indigenous to the region or was it introduced from up north because I am debating this racist and I provided her this source. This was her response "I'm on the side of history, you however, aren't on anyone's side but your own, that's why you resorted to insults. "has an African origin dating to before 1000 BCE" Yah that really explains a lot. Your source doesn't provide evidence of smelting before 1,000 years. It just throws a figure out there and expects everyone to believe it. Your source doesn't offer a single foot note except for a linguist who is not an archaeologist and another archaeologist that says it's a hypothesis - which you have ignorantly accepted as fact. And just what did these sub-Saharan Negroids create with this iron? Nothing so much as a door hinge. One of the earliest smelted iron artifacts known is a dagger with an iron blade found in a Hattic tomb in Anatolia, dating from 2500 BC Cowen 2010

" there is no such thing as the white race. " Then I guess there is no such thing as the black race either. Damn, you must have been born without an optical nerve to not see the difference in race. No wonder you need glasses. Better double up on that prescription, four eyes. You don't come to my video and disrespect me and my people you ass." The video for this debate is here I tried this source but I am not sure how reliable it is. Not only that I found this rebuttal "This is an interesting essay about the case for and against against iron working originating in sub-Saharan Africa. In essence it picks apart some of the very early dates, showing them to be more the product of wishful thinking and poor archeological practises. Most notably, dating a buried object in Niger from a potsherd found on the surface (very poor practise) and the common use of ancient charcoal to smelt iron giving false antiquity to artifacts, and the lack of calibration when using carbon 14 dating. It also points out the lack of prior technology that could could have lead to the discovery of iron working, notably that coppper working appeared almost at the same time, and that the pottery was fired in low temperature pit kilns that wouldn’t have produced iron accidentally. It also notes that the movement of iron technology appears to have been from North to South, with Egypt being one of the last Mediterranean cultures to adopt iron tools, with Turkey being the oldest known site. This is the reverse of what you would see of the technology was of African origin moving Northwards. So it looks like a Turkish origin for Iron working is still the most likely." Source: I would appreciate the help. prophetofreason 04:50, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

I honestly have no idea, but doing a quick search gave me this and this, which might be a starting point for you. PsyGremlinZungumza! 05:17, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. prophetofreason 02:17, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

On an unrelated topic, going back a week or so...[edit]

Way to kill my dreams, after it looked like Chris Gayle had woken up and the Windies might actually be there to play. That was brutal. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 18:22, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

I guessing if you're watching them play this morning, you're really miserable :) --PsyGremlinZungumza! 08:34, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Jesus Christ. I woke up to them shaking hands at the end of the match. Grim. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 16:04, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


That was some game. Acei9 08:32, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Tight finish, but you guys deserved the win. Just don't lose to the fucking Aussies now! PsyGremlinZungumza! 14:23, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Rugby World Cup[edit]

Were you supporting South Africa or Japan in that one? Incredible game. rpeh •TCE 17:47, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

I have nothing but admiration for how well Japan played, they were brilliant, and the Boks were, sadly, utterly, utterly pathetic, and deserved to lose. So yeah, I'm a bit grumpy today, but my inner Jessica is still swigging sake... :) PsyGremlinZungumza! 10:17, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

It's fine with me if only one section at any time is about the I-P issue. I just will not have the entire topic sent into purgatory.---Mona- (talk) 16:23, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

If a dedicated space has been set aside for discussion, especially if it has nothing to do with the page in question, i.e. WIGO World in this case, then the discussion will happen there. Running around posting wherever you want, doesn't help your cause. PsyGremlinZungumza! 09:19, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Been a while.[edit]

How's it hanging? Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 18:39, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Wrinkled and to the right. :) Doing ok - you? Yeah, don't drop by much anymore - usually open recent changes, see it's full of gamergate / chicken coop bullshit and leave again. PsyGremlinZungumza! 09:21, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

You've been nominated![edit]

Over here. (talk) 03:23, 2 November 42015 AQD (UTC)

Thanks, but no thanks. PsyGremlinZungumza! 09:32, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Official Facebook Page[edit]

Please keep adding stuff - I'm down with labyrinthitisWikipedia and can only use a screen in bursts.

(I've found posting roughly every 6 hours or so seems to feed The Algorithm(tm), and it's easy to schedule posts.)

Also there's a pile of other RW oldtimers who are Editors(tm) on the page and do bugger-all, need to get them posting again - David Gerard (talk) 12:53, 6 January 2016 (UTC)