RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Emily Willoughby

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Delete

1. Article was very likely created as part of a "parody project" by the Human Diversity Foundation. Unlike other dubious articles they created (e.g. Eric Turkheimer) the Willoughby article is entirely about her Wikipedia edit history. The reason Willoughby was targeted is she was blocking troll accounts owned by the HDF on Wikipedia. I vote to delete. Anti-eugenicist (talk) 08:12, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
2. The article is around 70% sourced to her Wikipedia history and is pointless drama. I believe RW should no longer get involved in documenting Wikipedia nonsense. She hasn't written any papers on race realism unlike others like Dutton, Kirkegaard etc. A good option would be to delete and redirect to International Society for Intelligence Research Psychologist Guy (talk) 12:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
3. Not a good article. Toby (talk) 12:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
4. I seem to be missing much of the backstory but totally trust the judgment of long-standing editors like Psychologist Guy in such a sensitive matter. Kadashova (talk) 13:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

   Kadashova, the brief backstory on this, is that Emil Kirkegaard a few years ago infiltrated RationalWiki on several sock-puppet accounts and created 4 parody articles in an attempt to discredit RationalWiki. His main account was CBH, he also used the account Jean Lusaz and Kfotfo. On the last account he made an edit outlining his 'experiment'. The plan was to create these parody articles to "counter" alleged "attack" pages that RW has debunking race pseudo-scientists. His targets were Robert Plomin, Richard Haier and Eric Turkheimer, he then contacted these people on X.com in a failed attempt to get RW in trouble. All said articles have since been re-created and re-written (Pinkerite has done good work on that) so they failed. The original creator of the Emily Willoughby article was likely to be Kirkegaard's last blocked account. Kirkegaard had a falling out with Willoughby, that is probably why he created the article. A better option would be just to redirect her article to International Society for Intelligence Research where she is already mentioned. Psychologist Guy (talk) 14:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

5. WOW, smh. The above reads like a thriller or something. There is clearly a lot of trolling on this Wiki, but if the suspicion is that whole articles are affected, there should be immediate damage reduction. ☣🍆☣ (talk) 16:01, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
6. -Flandres (talk) 15:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Keep

1. Even if too much of the page is about WP drama, I think she's still both 'missional' and 'notable'. Said article should get a thorough review [and if needs be] reduction to a semi-stub - not a wholesale nuking. KarmaPolice (talk) 08:32, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
2. I second KP. - Only Sort of Dumb (talk) 08:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
3. Thirded, she's missional and notable, also nuking gives the HDF what they want essentially. Lavalizard101 (talk) 13:06, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
4. GeeJayK^{Where all evil dwells} _{Where every lie is true} 13:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
5. Carthage (talk) 13:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
6. I'd like to keep this one around just because of how much it pisses off the "race realists." But I went ahead and cut the dumbass wiki drama shit. 🎄Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano🎄^{Ask about our holiday specials!} 16:19, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

   Just read her article in full and ended up reverting you. I'd say, if she is a white supremacist, eugenicist and so on, the best evidence comes from her Wikipedia account. While I think deleting is wise, this content is where it gets the most missional. Since ISIR, for example, isn't fully white supremacist, we shouldn't have an article on every board member... And so on. Kadashova (talk) 16:48, 21 December 2024 (UTC)