User talk:Oxyaena/Archive 5

Duce

@DuceMoosolini You realized I stopped edit warring after the second reversion, right? And Raven has edit warred on that article as well, and now you're considering giving him his rights back. — Oxyaena ^Harass 19:58, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

2R might be strictly adhered to but your reversions shouldn't have happened in the first place and you should be well aware of this by now. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 20:02, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't see why they shouldn't have happened, and why was I blocked in the first place if two reversions are permissible? @LeftyGreenMario — Oxyaena ^Harass 20:28, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

This is across multiple articles. Just take your nine hour block and try to earn some good faith for once--Hastur! (talk) 20:31, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Given your history of edit warring, I think you should always think twice before hitting revert (and consider the more cautious options like talk page or even a simple undo with an articulate edit summary) especially against someone like Godless Raven. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 20:33, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

I haven't edit warred in weeks. A single reversion isn't an edit war. And okay, I'll consider that. Raven goes out of his way to piss me off. — Oxyaena ^Harass 20:35, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps the block is warranted but its completely true GR has been taunting Oxy a couple times in the last couple days. It's like he's egging for a conflict. It's the very reason I'm quite hesitant we give him his rights back. ShabiDOO 20:48, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

[1][2][3] To be very clear, Oxy was just casually reverting my edits, without me ever addressing her whatsoever. She also did this to Hastur. So I am def not the problem here. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 20:53, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Actually, look at her talk page. A bunch of people complaining about her reverting. Focus your criticism on Oxy, not me. @Shabidoo — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 20:55, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

It probably is not relevant to restoring his rights, since his sysop powers actually would have little to do with his ability to start shit with other users, but it does need to be addressed that he is still as prone to baiting people into a conflict as ever. Hastur is being entirely too favorable to him in that specific regard, and shabidoo is right that this at least should be discussed.-Flandres (talk) 20:58, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Actually, last comment I will make here: Shabidoo and Flandres have had the crosshairs on me since day 1. So I am just going to let them make baseless accusations against me, because it's futile for me to even address them. I will let these links stay on their own and let people reading this decide for themselves if I "provoked" Oxy. [4][5][6] — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 21:01, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

You never accept responsibility for your own actions, do you? — Oxyaena ^Harass 21:49, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

I would be over the moon GR, and the first to praise you, if you could be a valued contributor to the site without goading Oxy or other users. ShabiDOO 23:19, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Maybe don't take your saloon barfight over why Oxy thinks authoritarian leftism is better than neoliberalism to the mainspace. All I see is Oxy repeatedly removing anything anyone adds to the wiki that is critical of any form of socialism including the USSR, obvious racism by socialists, China, etc. very occasionally people back her on it but that's more by accident than anything else, yet Oxy carries on anyway and inevitably causes article disputes, not only with Raven but like half a dozen other users just in the last few months because she's unable to back down or disengage and refuses to listen to "libs" including me so this comment will probably be ignored too. — Z 06:04, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

I've already told you that I do not think that authoritarian "leftism" is better than neoliberalism, nor vice versa. I specifically said that looking at things in terms of "better" or "worse" is the wrong way to look at things. They're both bad, in their own separate ways. — Oxyaena ^Harass 06:28, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

On the subject of the protests

In the interest of not dragging an unrelated convo all over Talk:Karl Marx, let me just type out a quick response: I'm aware of this. The problem is that the violent subsection (note: the overwhelming majority is peaceful) gave the police the flimsy justification they needed to justify violence against the peaceful protestors. Similarly, it's become overwhelmingly clear to me that this specific subsection seemed to be mostly made up of white kids, and the subsequent connection of "what kinda group on the left makes white men who feel disenfranchised feel appealed to and make it not difficult for them to reframe this entire thing in a way that can conveniently skip the 'racism is kinda a big problem' angle so that they can justify looting some black guy's store" wasn't hard to make with CTH/Dirtbaggers. I can understand this not being clear in the talkpage comment (it was a bit rambly as a whole), but I just wanted to make it clear what I was trying to say. Techpriest ^{(I am Alpharius! / / / )} 12:11, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Except that's wrong, and I`m not sure "looting" a giant corporate superstar like Target or Walmart is as bad as you make it out to be. Those "looted" goods were subsequently redistributed to the protesters and to those in need. — Oxyaena ^Harass 14:17, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Please read again. I never said Target or Walmart. Those idiots went for local owned businesses, not giant corporate chains. Techpriest ^{(I am Alpharius! / / / )} 15:42, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

It's also a smear that most of the "looters" were white, they weren't. A lot of the violence and looting was instigated, and done, by false flag police agents and far-right boogaloo Nazis. — Oxyaena ^Harass 17:13, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

The notion that any given person on the left who shows up to a protest is going to be nonviolent is either naive or an attempt at propaganda. You don't control who shows up and there are plenty of people on the left who have no qualms rioting. We just need to start self-policing and stop doing dumb shit like wasting our breath defending rioters--Hastur! (talk) 17:38, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Basically what Hastur says. And to be fair, some people definetly did do what Hastur suggested. I recall seeing a couple of threads of some folks stopping these dumb kids and telling them to go back home instead of being a disaster tourist. Techpriest ^{(I am Alpharius! / / / )} 18:59, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Proudhon

Perhaps rather than exhorting people to read Proudhon, you should write a page on Proudhon or on his What is Property? Bongolian (talk) 20:36, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

I'd like to see that.Ariel31459 (talk) 21:01, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

What the fuck

I made one single edit, not vandalism, made one reversion, not edit warring, and I get blocked. You're all a bunch of jackasses. @LeftyGreenMario @Spud @RWRW This is why I should have sysop, so fuckers like Gunther can't block me for no justifiable reason. — Oxyaena ^Harass 10:24, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

You shouldn't have sysop because of this. Notice how I didn't block you (because I pledged not to do that) and yet you got blocked by someone else for your behavior? — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 10:30, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

"My behavior?" One fucking edit and I get blocked for nine hours, you shouldn't have sysop, you miserable piece of shit. — Oxyaena ^Harass 10:32, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Not to mention that you go out of your way to revert anything I do. See: [7][8][9][10][11][12] and so many more examples. You then refuse or ignore talk page comments and also use personal attacks against me. If anything, you should take this block to rethink your conduct towards me and others (considering how you went to Hastur's talk page to call him a "piece of shit" [13], for example). You called me an idiot several times and you also called Gunther a jackass for obviously punishing you for disruptive behavior. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 10:38, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Also, last time you got blocked it was by Duce. Are we all jackasses for not wanting you to shit all over the site? You already made people leave because of your behavior (see jaydogg for instance), but this time you don't have sysop to beat someone over the head with the mop. Take this as an opportunity to rethink things. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 10:40, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

A single reversion of your reversion of my edit wherein I removed your blatantly partisan horseshit. Disruptive behavior my ass, is expressing genuine frustration to genuinely frustrating people anathema now? Jaydogg was making genuinely shitty edits, and was also sharing screenshots of me on Reddit. Hastur and Gunther have been called out by other people for how they treat me, and they were talking shit about me having disabilities on the Discord. You're an asshole. — Oxyaena ^Harass 10:42, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Is expressing frustration with people an anathema now? Well, let's see how you treated jaydogg for one, when he expressed frustration: [14] That being said, what people do offsite is not relevant to the wiki, even if I agree that being ableist and transphobic is something we shouldn't platform here. But if we did, you got banned from the discord support server for drive by personal attacks and harassment. Should we count that against you? I never did (and in fact I didn't want you banned in the first place). — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 10:47, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

"they were talking shit about me having disabilities on the Discord." Evidence? Gunther1987 (talk) 10:50, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Oxyaena, I've unblocked you. Gunther may not have liked your edit, but it was not vandalism. Spud (talk) 10:54, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Coop case

A case involving you has been raised at the Chicken Coop. Feel free to comment.

— Godless Raven  talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹  19:19, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Raven, you need to take a break and seriously reflect on what you've done wrong. Circumspice. — Oxyaena ^Harass 19:29, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Les Claypool seems like a really cool guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flKK4BlhgVk

I rew-atched the Bill and Ted movies, Primus was in there. Holy cow, I heard that bass tone and was like "That's Les Claypool"

I wouldn't buy Bill and Ted 3, but defintely "be excellent to each other" ans "party on, dudes." ey Primus is funk, Rae Against the Machine is funk. I know you didn't ask for either, but, to beg the question, I'm sorry, what does it matter if they just slay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOKn33-q4Ao 07:45, 5 September 2020 (UTC)~I got saddled wirh an ad when I checked this. Fuck that. Gol Sarnitt (talk) 07:52, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Funk Metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my6bfA14vMQ

I got that kid at work, he loves Funk Metal right now after I explaied that Primus is funk, RATM came up on one of his playlists, he jammed on it, then he caught me looking at him. He said "Their politics are trash, but the music slaps." I said "somewhere around 50% of that statement was true." He's a good kid, he's an old buddy's nephew and he's got Asperger's. He got blackpilled hard, mentalcell shit, he goes to the same high school I went to and it doesn't sound like things have changed. Grooving to a RATM song is huge progress, his uncle would be proud if he hadn't broke the kid's heart by being a dick to him on Facebook. He's maybe catching some PUA right now, but I mean the kid was absolutely devastated two weeks ago, calling my old buddy a scumbag and wishing him death. I also know my old buddy, he probably said a bunch of stupid shit to his nephew on Facebook because the kid got blackpilled. Now the kid is flying around, like literally occasionally running around, talking about confidence and positive thought, like he's wearing a pair of psychic heelies, which is... a little concerning, but seeing him happy enough to listen to a RATM song on his own, there's progress there. Gol Sarnitt (talk)

Sysop restored

Mod noticeboard vote ended 12 - 8, so your sysop rights are restored. The vote concluded that you'll be kept under a 3 month probation, with these rules:

1. Oxyaena cannot give a block exceeding 3.14159 days to anyone who is not a spam account.
2. Oxyaena cannot use the Vandal Bin on users with more than 30 edits.
3. Oxyaena has an active obligation to deescalate a confrontation with another user, with the possible exception of when another user is clearly trying to provoke her through malicious action (e.g., intentionally misgendering her). Oxyaena must contact a moderator to resolve the situation if she feels she cannot resolve the conflict diplomatically. Note: This does not extend to talking about people who are not users; calling out shitheads IRL is what we do, and Oxy is one of our loudest callers out of shitheadery.

These rules must be kept here for the duration of your probation, and during that time a moderator can re-add sysoprevoke if the rules are broken.

Enjoy having your mop back. --RWRW (talk) 16:13, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Topic ban

As a result of this vote you have been topic banned from "reverting or making edits to articles related to far-left politics and ideology." Regards. --RWRW (talk) 18:27, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Raven

Please just try and walk away. It isn’t hard, just try please. I’ve said the same to Raven (though a little harsher). If you can avoid engaging Raven I’m sure everyone would appreciate it. Thanks. Ace^Moderator 08:22, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

I'll try, Ace. I appreciate you being patient with me, I am trying. Thank you. — Oxyaena ^Harass 09:16, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

No problem. Just try keep it easy. Ace^Moderator 10:06, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Note about moving pages

Before moving a new page to draft space, please check to see if the page has been marked as patrolled; if it hasn't, mark it as such before moving. Thanks —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 20:44, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Tech status

You’ll never be one again. I knew you were lying about it. Ace^Moderator 06:50, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Dysk made a mistake, I never checked anything. I don't even know how to for Christ's sake. — Oxyaena ^Harass 07:22, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked, for 1 hour

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Your block time has been calculated using either RationalWiki's fibonacci sequence blocking policy or some random number of digits of pi, taking into account the nature of your transgression and your previous block record.

You will be unblocked automatically at around 20:26, 17 September 2020 (CDT). You won't able to make any edits until that time.

Kiko4564 (talk) 19:12, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Piss off Kiko. Techpriest ^{(I am Alpharius! / / / )} 19:24, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Oxy, you've now been unblocked, but treat this as a warning. If you continue being rude to people like that again, you could be blocked again. Thank you. Kiko4564 (talk) 19:26, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Stop playing Wiki Cop, seriously. All it's doing is make people hate you. Techpriest ^{(I am Alpharius! / / / )} 19:28, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Just for the record, this block was due to Oxy being rude to me on Discord. Kiko4564 (talk) 19:54, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Disciplinary measures for discord are at best tangentially relevant to the wiki. You can't block someone for being rude to you off site.-Flandres (talk) 20:03, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

On the former, I agree, I could have used better judgement, but I wasn't in a good mood after Oxy provoked me by telling me to "fuck off". I disagree on that, I believe that I can. However this block was an error on my part, and I'm sorry for wrongly blocking you Oxy. I will try and avoid making this kind of mistake again, even when provoked by other editors. Kiko4564 (talk) 20:12, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Here's what people mean but aren't saying: RW doesn't enforce rules of decorum like that. You're not a cop here. Your constant input on site management and the like is more than a little premature. Chill. Nutty Roux (talk) 13:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Given that you've replied to me, I think I'm within my rights to respond Nutty. In response to the points you raise: 1) I accept that, I misjudged, and impulsively made a bad decision. Sorry. Maybe I'm not the sort of editor who should be a sysop at this moment in time anyway, so me being promoted is no big deal, 2) alright I accept that I'm not a cop, and wasn't a cop even when I was a sysop, sorry about that, I misjudged, and made a mistake there, 3) OK then how about I tone it down a bit and avoid posting on site management boards so much, again I misjudged and made a mistake there, 4) alright I'll try and do that instead, thanks for your advice. Kiko4564 (talk) 14:18, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Something you said on Discord

Dude, I might not like or trust you however if you require mod assistance I’ll give you the same treatment as a mod as I would anyone else. Being a mod isnt being nice to people all the time - it’s about solving problems when asked. Ace^Moderator 08:44, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Sysop and unblock

Thanks a bunch ❣️ ASELA^{និយាយ} ❣️ 17:46, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

What is wrong with you

You just reverted 3000 characters-worth of patrolled edits without even a summary. Don't do that again.--Hastur! (talk) 16:55, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

It appeared on my screen to only be a few characters. I thought it was vandalism. — Oxyaena ^Harass 17:42, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Maybe next time read it first.--Hastur! (talk) 18:15, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

I need to drink less. My finer motor skills are suffering and I am making increasingly bold decisions in my office before shutting the door and listening to very loud techno - ignoring all and sundry. Ace^Moderator 00:27, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Oxyaena needs to cut back too, apparently. Personally I need to drink more. I haven't even finished my PBR yet--Hastur! (talk) 06:23, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

I`m sorry, I`m busy overthrowing capital at this current moment in time. Please leave a message after the beep. — Oxyaena ^Harass 23:49, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

kitty.

@Oxyaena, your cat is really fucking adorable. That is all. Twodots (talk) 07:07, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. — Oxyaena ^Harass 10:00, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

No, thank you, for posting pictures of ya kitty. ^-^ Twodots (talk) 16:12, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Naturalism

You seem, on the one hand, to be a naturalist given your knowledge of Evolution and your edits in related areas, is this the case? Leucippus (talk) 11:46, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes. — Oxyaena ^Harass 16:46, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Your views

Could you explain them to me, please? I feel that I'm misunderstanding them and you. Twodots (talk) 18:32, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm not Oxy, but you migh wish to elaborate a bit. Views about what? The life, the universe and everything probably sums up to 42. Knight Commander^{In Service}_{To Her}^Goatness 18:38, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

I wouldn't if I were you. You'll just end up with miles of non-sequiters or emotionally-charged rephrasings of the same basic ideas. Best to observe them as they occur naturally in the Saloon Bar. IveBeenFrank (talk) 18:41, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Ivebeenfrank, please don't trashtalk Oxy on her own talk page. Someone was asking Oxy to elaborate, not for your snarky opinion on how she discusses things. ShabiDOO 19:01, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Frank, that's out of line. Trashtalk elsewhere.

To elaborate, I'm talking about political views. Twodots (talk) 19:07, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Frank's projecting anyways. To be exact, I`m an individualist egoist anarchist. Lots of people here misunderstand my views, and then proclaim to know what my views are and then shit talk that strawman of what my views are. Individualist anarchists place prime importance on the individual, and not on society, which is an abstraction and not a real, material thing. Calls about the law, anarchy = chaos, and shit of that nature don't matter to me, as an egoist anarchist I seek only what pleases my ego, notice that egoism and altruism are not mutual exclusives. Society, the law, the economy, morality, the family, the state, are all just spooks, aka artificial constructs with no basis in material reality, that people beholden themselves to and make themselves slaves to, they put the abstraction, the unreal, above themselves. As an anarcho-nihilist, I just want to see the state abolished, we can figure everything else out after. As a post-leftist, I believe that the left and their ways of organizing have failed to achieve anarchy, or anything beyond vapid short term reforms that can always be repealed later.

I don't care how a person votes, since voting is supposed to be by a person's conscience. I hold the same opinion on the matter that MLK did. Voting is the least effective form of direct action. My views are similar to Dysk's overall, but slightly different. I fight for social justice because I`m one of the demographics affected by societal injustice. Solidarity is in my self interest, it pleases my ego.

As for rationality and typical Western metanarratives, these are spooks, artificial constructs used to justify and uphold social structures. I oppose hierarchy on principle. No-one is better suited to determine how you live your life and what you do than you, to justify rulership, be it rule of the majority as in a democracy, or otherwise, is authoritarian. Democracies still place an abstract, artificial construct over the individual: the law, and there's still a minority of people that comprise the ruling class. The average person doesn't make the laws, and they don't really have any effect on what form our laws take. Even in the European Union, you're still subject to neoliberal economic oppression and rule of a minority, albeit a subtle one.

I question narratives such as "human nature" because such concepts deny the plasticity and fluidity observed by humans and their cultures, and serve as thought-terminating cliches for whatever the status quo is.

I question a lot of the value judgements made by this wiki, because they are kneejerk reactions or are clear editorializing without a concrete reason why this is bad, or nutty, or whatever. Notice how on some pages this wiki rails against capitalism, and on others it generalizes anti-capitalism as being an unreasonable position.

If I had to pick a form of societal organization I want, I'd pick something akin to anarcho-communism. I believe in a society run off of the principles of horizontal relations, mutual aid, and no exploitation or coercive authority, where everyone is truly free and truly equal. The phrase "No Gods, No Masters" exists for a reason. You can call me an idealist, but such communities do exist and have existed in reality, and continue to do so today. I have more I should elaborate on, but I think I've written enough for one day. If you're curious, my Discord is Oxyaena#2207, we can talk more there. — Oxyaena ^Harass 10:06, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

So you wanted to talk about sex...

There are several reasons why monogamy is better than polyamory. Polyamory isn't in itself "evil", but there are issues.

First off, disease prevention. The more people involved in a relationship, the more chances there are for a disease to spread. Hepatitis doesn't need to be transmitted sexually, and every extra person in the relationship is one more person that could possible cheat on the others and catch something. If an open polyamorous relationship, well, now you are basically asking for trouble.

Second, gender scarcity. This is more in terms of polygyny rather than polyamory as a whole, but "One Penis Policy" is definitely a thing. Polyamory attracts much more interest from men than from women as well. There simply aren't enough women for a large percentage of men to be in a polyamorous relationship, it's sort of like a rich person having 5 houses while there are numerous homeless people, except that we could always build more houses (and probably should!), but we can't exactly build more women. On the flip side, polyamory tends to be more... "other" in terms of sexuality and gender and so forth, so you could have polyamorous groups made up mostly of men with few problems.

Third, property issues, inheritance, etc. Which I know you'll disagree with in general of course. But in our current system, as is, inheritance laws and health insurance and so forth are, well... it was a fight just to get men's husbands health insurance coverage, the general public is not going to be nearly as sympathetic as giving coverage to the husband, husband, wife and husband. Divorce is going to be extra nasty and complicated, to say nothing of child custody.

Fourth, polyamory isn't for everyone, it's not even for most of the people attempting it. If 3 people are truly happy together, then hooray, they made it work, more power to them. If 2 people are trying to open up their relationship in order to save it, well, that relationship isn't going to be saved. CoryUsar (talk) 15:19, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

On the incel page

Trying to avoid linking to incels.co and other blackpill sites they own (that have questionable content) on the Incel page. Wikipedia also takes this stance, their entire article not once mentions incels.co. The stuff you reverted back was stuff a few things I had written but regret doing so. Thanks :) 03:43, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Hey!

Just to let you know that I've finally finished the paper you linked to in our Saloon Bar conversation. I'd love to continue to debate, but it seems that that section's been archived, and I don't want to break anything on the wiki. UninspiringNickname (talk) 13:36, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

She LANCB'd. Twodots (talk) 14:11, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Er, sorry for being a massive idiot again. What is a LANCB'd? And yes, English isn't my native language (though my lack of proficiency in (at?) it is my fault alone; I'd very much welcome folks correcting me, but of course can't ask them to take the time to do it). UninspiringNickname (talk) 15:48, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@UninspiringNickname Do you have a Discord? It'd be much easier to discuss there without comments from the peanut gallery. — Oxyaena ^Harass 14:43, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Er, what is Discord? 😶 does it run on very low-end laptops? Sorry for being a tech-challenged idiot. UninspiringNickname (talk) 14:54, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

It's an app and yes it runs on low-end laptops. My Discord ID is Oxyaena#2207. — Oxyaena ^Harass 16:35, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Alright! I'll be on it Wednesday. Tomorrow I have a calculus thingy exam. Wish me luck 😧 UninspiringNickname (talk) 17:37, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh, Oxy, your userpage said that you were retired and had decided to LANCB whenever I looked at it yesterday. I assumed you wouldn't immediately return. Twodots (talk) 18:26, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

My Big December Adventure

My grandpa died last year in December. My brother and my mom have birthdays in December. The funeral was on a birthday. I wished my brother a happy birthday this year and he told me he spent it putting his wife's cat down. All I could say is "oof. Guess we got another trip around the sun" He's a metalhead, I'm a grunge fanatic, but we definitely had to listen to this song on a Christmas road trip back to the family. Maybe I'm the only one who remembered it... My brother is probably used to my mental mazes, we did grow up on Buffet and McBride.

weird when the old school hits Gol Sarnitt (talk) 05:11, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

I am drunk. Drunk forever.Gol Sarnitt (talk) 05:31, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

I'll raise a toast to your granddad. — Oxyaena ^Harass 12:25, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate that. I'm sorry to hear about your grandma. Gol Sarnitt (talk) 02:45, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry too Oxy. We have our differences when it comes to politics, but personally I feel for you and I'm sorry for your loss. Knight Commander^{In Service}_{To Her}^Goatness 02:56, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. — Oxyaena ^Harass 15:16, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

If it's any consolation my uncle died a few months ago, so I can at least somewhat understand the shock you must be feeling right now. Just remember we're all hear for you if you feel the need to talk about any of this. Evilatheistheathen (talk) 01:00, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

You'd hate this

I saw the video link is gone. I kinda badmouthed a good thing, didn't I? I do that sometimes.

bad funny cheap grab I actually held tight to this song until I understood it was two failing (bad) bands just grabbing on to their fanbases for final album sales, and this song wasn't about me. good ska punk I like ska, and that's the way it's gonna have to be. I still have the BOTAR shirt from seeing Catch 22 reform. It's a small. What a fucking time. Gol Sarnitt (talk) 11:17, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

MMT page

Your additions were valuable to the MMT page. I cannot argue with right-libertarian monetarists on there posing as neutral observers for weeks on end, who also do not understand the topic, and have a poor understanding of rationality. so if you want to jump back in at any point, that'd be great Neiltyson1fan (talk) 18:39, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Catgrrl

Oxy, why the fuck are you autopatrolling and sysopping Catgrrl in the middle of the night? Twodots (talk) 06:07, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Allow me to give you some reasons as to why you really ought not to autopatrol or sysop them:

• Baseless accusations.
• Baseless accusations: The sequel.
• Whitewashing.
• More whitewashing.
• Part three of the Baseless Accusations trilogy.
• Freaking out over an innocent YouTuber.
• Apparently, being wealthy automatically makes you racist and sexist.
• The saga continues.
• Bonkers assertion.
• POV pushing.
• Oh noez! A joke!
• I don't like it- therefore, it's right-wing!
• The saga comes to it's thrilling conclusion!
• More POV pushing- and this time, it's personal!

I'm going to remove the changes you made now- Catgrrl really shouldn't be autopatrolled, let alone be given a demotion. Twodots (talk) 06:52, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Feel free to comment. Twodots (talk) 07:00, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

I second @Twodots. I even opened an ATIM case regarding this user, but didn't present the jury with the best arguments, so it got thrown out since CG rarely shows up and is easily revertible. I know you have similarly hostile views towards rationalists, secular activists who refuse to suspend skepticism when it comes to Islam or Hinduism because mUh cUlTuRaL dIfFeReNcEs, everyone who doesn't want to kill the rich and replace US democracy with an ancom tankie paradise where public education is basically unschooling, and who isn't extremely far-left, but ideological demotions are never good form, and expect them to be undone quite swiftly. --Goatspeed. _{Stalk me}CircularRasoning^{See my experiments} 08:11, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

I second your seconding, CR. Twodots (talk) 15:12, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

I demoted them because the community guidelines say that once demoted only a coop can undo that demotion. — Oxyaena ^Harass 12:55, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

That's a shit reason, Oxy. She's a POV-pushing drive-by who stuck around because you and JD bend over backwards to help anyone who agrees with you. Twodots (talk) 15:12, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

It should be obvious why she demoted her. She wants another far-left loony to stir up trouble with. IveBeenFrank (talk) 13:06, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Shut up, you prick. — Oxyaena ^Harass 13:09, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Really not helping your case, Ox. Twodots (talk) 15:12, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Let's not make any assumptions about why someone was demoted. Catgrll isn't fit for autopatrolled for rather obvious reasons. As for this demotion, @Twodots that list of diffs would make me back a potential sysoprevoke on this user because at the time, them having sysop is clearly very undesirable. Secondly, @IveBeenFrank and CircularReasoning please take a look at Hanlon's Razor and our assumptions of good faith in the CS before you accuse Oxy of doing this demotion out of an attempt to stir up shit. Techpriest ^{(I am Alpharius! / / / )} 13:16, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

I mean, if I was going to demote and autopatrol a drive-by POV-pusher against the will of the mob, I'd do it in the middle of the night ala Oxy. That's the smart thing to do if you know you shouldn't be doing something- hide the evidence, avoid witnesses. Twodots (talk) 15:12, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Not really? It'd be far smarter to do it in the smackdab middle of the day, preferably right after another promotion. That way it'd get folded into the user rights log + it'd get quickly drowned under other edits on Recent Changes. Techpriest ^{(I am Alpharius! / / / )} 15:47, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Wait, wait, lemme write this down... Twodots (talk) 17:49, 10 January 2021 (UTC)