User talk:Anti-Authoritarian/Archive 1

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Reverend Black Percy (talk) 00:11, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

{{hello}}^{— Unsigned, by: Anti-Authoritarian / talk / contribs}

There's no hello template. Christopher (talk) 17:33, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

In future…

Hi there, in the future if you're going to make a statement about someone that's potentially libelous (e.g., on the RationalWiki:Webshites/Racialism page), you need to add a reference that confirms what you're saying. Bongolian (talk) 01:18, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Your Breitbart edit

Jack Hadfield: British-born journalist, former Warwick University student and, contributor to Breitbart Tech. The guy was found to have been an administrator of a neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic, alt-right, "free speech" Facebook group called the Young RIght Society after being doxxed by the anti-racist UK organization Hope not Hate.

I'd like to see source for the statement that "Hope not Hate" doxxed the person. I need clarification on the "doxxed" word choice, specifically. Thanks! --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 21:24, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Please cite sources where needed

While we're more lax with citations than Wikipedia, it's still important to have them when making any sort of claim that cannot be easily verified through common knowledge, so please remember to add them. You have added some to your recent edits, but not really enough. Good work on getting the Gab.ai page started, though. Spriggina (puhua) (maksut) @ 03:23, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Edit warring

Seriously, please stop doing it.—CheeseburgerPlate  (talk • stalk) 04:32, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

For example:

Your edit: [1]

Reversion: [2]

Your edit: [3]

Reversion: [4]

—CheeseburgerPlate  (talk • stalk) 04:35, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

okay, I'll stop. Anti-Authoritarian 04:32, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

On talk pages, please sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the sign button: on the toolbar above the edit panel. You can also indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line. Thank you.

Also, you need to cite your sources more often. CowHouse (talk) 04:37, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Okay, I'm trying to provide links to news sources. Anti-Authoritarian talk 04:37, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Read the references before you make incorrect changes

On the Identity Evropa page, you have twice tried to say that Damigo had a "nothing other than an honorable discharge". This is entirely different than what the reference says, which is an "other than honorable" discharge. Bongolian (talk) 20:08, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Feedback

• Can you please avoid using unnecessary capital letters in the middle of your sentences? Examples: "White", "Far-right and Alt-right", "Alt-right" again.
• You should check the edit history of the Smoloko page before you add content that has been removed. For example, the navigation templates have been removed several times for being excessive. If you disagree, write a comment on the talk page.
• You had forgotten to add a full stop at the end of many sentences you added to the Smoloko page.
• The link you added in this edit does not work. CowHouse (talk) 04:48, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

  Full stop is period in American, btw. I used to be confused by that. Spriggina (puhua) (maksut) @ 05:18, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

More feedback

• You appear to edit very quickly. I suggest you use the "show preview" button when editing (the button is between "save page" and "show changes"). That way, you can proofread your edit and check to see how it will look once it's saved. Doing so will mean you can avoid making avoidable errors with formatting, referencing, spelling, and red links.
• Also, you should click "Show changes" so that you can notice if you accidentally pressed the enter key too many times.
• The majority of the links you have referenced do not work. Sometimes this is because you added a full stop to the end of the link (e.g. this link works but this link doesn't). Some other links you have added simply do not work at all.
• I also noticed that you still didn't sign properly. You just copied and pasted my signature and inserted your username. I can tell because the timestamp was wrong.
• Finally, can you please acknowledge that you have read some of the comments on your talk page? You don't have to do this, but it's unclear that you have read these comments unless you respond. Thanks. CowHouse (talk) 08:22, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Please stop adding all eighty nav templates to every page. Just one is fine. Two is too many. —Kazitor, ^pending 22:13, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

A confession

For some reason your username sets off alarm bells in my mind every time I see it in recent changes, and I go check the diffs over and over "Aha, this time they'll have blown their cover as a deep-cover parodist", and every time it's minor edits marginally improving an article. I don't know why. ikanreed ^{🐐Bleat at me} 18:49, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Ikanreed It seems like a parodist sort of username. They tend to involve explicitly sounding like they share certain views, thinking that that means we just ignore them and/or assume that their contributions are fine. It also doesn't particularly help when they have no userpage. But like you said, this user is fine. —Kazitor, ^pending 07:44, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Navbars

Please don't add navbars to pages if they will either exceed the length of the page or exceed 3 in total. It just looks tacky and ugly, and you can manually add the categories without using the navbars. You can use the preview button to check the length. Spriggina (puhua) (maksut) @ 18:59, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Dude, we've reverted you adding navbars at least 5 times since I posted this. Cut it out. Seriously. Spriggina (puhua) (maksut) @ 21:58, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Quit abusing the nav templates

Seriously, this is like the fourth time it's been mentioned here. Stop. —Kazitor, ^pending 23:49, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes, cut it out. Rule of thumb: never more than 2 per page, and never more than 1 unless it's a long page. Bongolian (talk) 23:53, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Should Anti-Authoritarian really be auto-patrolled?—CheeseburgerPlate  (talk • stalk) 00:27, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Oh, they aren't. Never mind.—CheeseburgerPlate  (talk • stalk) 00:28, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Anti-Authoritarian does not have auto-patrolled status currently, @CheeseburgerFace. Bongolian (talk) 00:52, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Okay i'll stop for once. Anti-Authoritarian

Sign with four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the sign button: on the toolbar above the edit panel.

By the way, the 'see also' section is meant to go before the 'references' section and please don't change the section heading from "American Civil War" to "Civil War". It's not the only civil war that's ever occurred, the page you edited referenced events across multiple countries so it is necessary to be specific, and RationalWiki shouldn't be written from an American point of view. CowHouse (talk) 03:46, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

You said you'll stop. Why are you still adding them? Again, please stop. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 20:54, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

LGM just warned you again, yet you are still doing it. You run the risk of being short-term banned or vandal binned if you keep ignoring what moderators and sysops are telling you to do. Spriggina (puhua) (maksut) @ 21:04, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Stop adding excess nav templates or you will likely find yourself blocked or vandal binned. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 21:06, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

These messages above are your last warning: you do it one more time, expect a block from me or anyone else. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 22:39, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Blocking seems harsh, but seriously? Why will you not listen? Unless you like going through a CAPTCHA each time. —Kazitor, ^pending 05:55, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

The Man in the High Castle

A page you created, The Man in the High Castle, has been added to the articles for deletion page. CowHouse (talk) 04:44, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

URLs

As I have mentioned here twice already, many of the links you add do not work. From now on, I will revert any of your edits with links that do not work (such as this). You are free to fix them but I am done cleaning up your mess. CowHouse (talk) 05:33, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

After one month on RW, it seems that your external links almost never work. What is your problem? 1) Copy and paste the link from your browser: you don't seem to be doing this. 2) Read our help page on references: Help:References. I would appreciate your attention to this matter. Bongolian (talk) 05:50, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

I do have a bit of a problem when it comes to properly posting URLs. I'm trying the best I could but occasionally I can run into some problems. Thanks for the Help:References though. ^{— Unsigned, by: Anti-Authoritarian / talk / contribs 05:53, 4 March 2018 (UTC)}

OK, thank you. You might also want to look at the corrections that I made on your Occidental Dissent page. Bongolian (talk) 06:00, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Some of the quotes you added were incorrect so I suspect you don't copy and paste anything. Why is that? Also, sign your comments. CowHouse (talk) 11:00, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes, to add to @CowHouse, that is a serious problem. This is particularly so if anything you misquote is potentially libelous.[5] Bongolian (talk) 18:02, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked for 3.6 days because you have, once again, ignored warnings not to add excess navigation templates. In the meantime, you are still able to edit your talk page. CowHouse (talk) 06:25, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Alphabetical order

In future, please make sure your additions to the RationalWiki:Webshites/Conspiracy page, and similar pages, are in alphabetical order. Thanks. CowHouse (talk) 19:19, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Ishmael Levitts

So guys, I was on Gab lately and I found a quote of a "rabbi" named "Ishmael Levitts" whom many anti-Semites claim exist and "he" supposedly "said" (I use both words loosely) "It is in the Jewish interest, it is in humanities interest that whites experience a genocide. Until white children are burned alive, white women burned, mutilated, murdered and all white men who have not been slaughtered watch powerlessly as their people are terrorized; only then will mankind will be on a more equal footing, ready to discuss white privilege and the apparent chip on the shoulder that minorities have". As far as I can tell you I have searched the web for this "Ishmael Levitts" and found not one result from an authoritative source or any non-Anti-Semitic article that verified that he existed, the only websites that ever cite his alleged "quote" are anti-Semitic and/or conspiracy websites or Stormfront other than that it doesn't look like he's a real person to begin with. It's very likely this "Ishmael Levitts" was an invention of a white nationalist conspiracy theorist or Neo-Nazi with the sole purpose of spreading hatred towards Jewish people and fabricated "white genocide" propaganda. Anti-Authoritarian (talk) 02:08, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

"Ishmael Levitts" doesn't exist. By the way, the timestamp in your signature was wrong. On talk pages, please sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the sign button: on the toolbar above the edit panel. You can also indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line. Thank you. CowHouse (talk) 05:38, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Well of course he doesn't exist. The whole point of what I was saying "Ishmael Levitts" is clearly fake and was an invention of a Neo-Nazi or anti-Semitic white nationalist. Of course unlike with Baruch Efrati and David Touitou who while they certainly do exist and advocate for Christianity's extinction in Europe their comments do not nor ever represent the vast majority let alone most Jews to begin with just like how we can't blame Christians for things like racism in the heavily Christian Bible Belt South (aka the CSA), the KKK or the Westboro Baptist Church we cannot blame every single Jewish person for Muslim refugees arriving in Europe (even then that has more to do with humanitarian concerns of war-torn refugees than ever actually trying to destroy Christianity, "Ishmael Levitts" on the other hand is just a fabrication. Anti-Authoritarian (talk) 03:30, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Unsurprisingly, your timestamp was incorrect again. Also, only sign at the end of your comment. Please read this. The end of your comment should have looked like this when you wrote it:

• ...on the other hand is just a fabrication. ~~~~

CowHouse (talk) 15:57, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Abraham Lincoln 1998 Speech and Smoloko News

Another thing to note. I spent time on some of the more murkier corners of the web and found an alleged "speech" by the Anti-Defamation League's Abraham Foxman (who used to head the ADL) where supposedly said "Gentlemen. Welcome to the Second Centennial Meeting of the Learned Elders of Zion. We have achieved all of the objectives expressed at our first meeting 100 years ago. We control governments. We have created dissension among our enemies and made them kill each other. We have effectively silenced of our affairs and we are the richest race of men on this earth. Many of you are very busy men. Let us get into the crux of matter. As masters of business, politics, law and most importantly... media, we are ready to implement our most important and ambitious program. One that will finally and totally remove from existence the impediments of our absolute control of the earth. I speak OF THE DEATH OF THE WHITE RACE. The complete removal of all means of reproduction of the so-called Aryan race. Men, we control the destiny of this race. It is now time to make sure the White race becomes extinct through miscegenation and having a virtually zero birth rate. We have all enjoyed the vision repeated all over this world every day of THE LAST WHITE CHILDREN playing with little dark children and knowing that they are being set-up for their eventual destruction. We can ruin THE ANCIENT PURE BLOODLINE OF AN ARYAN CHILD by convincing him or her of the altruism of begetting interracial children. We must expose the race mixing of the urban centers to the suburbs and the rural areas of this country. More aggressive programs to integrate these areas are now under way through HUD. It is worth any price to annihilate the next generation of White children. We want every White father to feel the sting of having their children marry colored mates and produced biracial children. We must use our power to discourage White men and women who still persist getting together from producing more pure White children. They will be ostracasized by not becoming a part of the New Society of all races. This will dissuade most of them. We will deal with the less cooperative goyim by murder and imprisonment. Finally, we will SEE THE END OF THIS WHITE RACE. Impressionable White children will have their minds molded into agents of their own destruction. Already, our efforts have succeded in making the "men" of this race grovel at our feet. Men, you and your ancestors have worked hard to make sure we would have the power to hold the destiny of this race in our hands. Now we have it. Perish Aryan Goyim (cattle)!". So far I have only found this speech only on anti-Semitic websites such as Stormfront for example and its said to have been recorded in a 1998 National Observer Article but I have not been able to find any link to his particular quote and its very likely that just like the "Ishmael Levitts" myth this entire "speech" was made up to demonize Jews and spread false white genocide propaganda. Then I have matter to concern myself with the anti-Semitic "news" website Smoloko News so far they seem to eerily inactive and the last time they posted anything new was an article from the equally anti-Semitic Tomatobubble titled "Eleanor Roosevelt: Lesbian, Communist, Big Mouth" on January 31, 2018 being a distortion of facts to suit a particular agenda but that's it I've never seen anything new from what crazy Scottie or insane Alicia have ever said or posted they seemed to have either been too busy with other matters or they decided to just move on from anti-Semitic news articles and instead focus on something else. Anti-Authoritarian (talk) 04:38, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Coop notice

A case involving you has been raised at the Chicken Coop. Feel free to comment.

CowHouse (talk) 08:14, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

You've been vandal braked, not because you're a vandal per se, but because you've made a series of problematic edits and have not listened to sysop advice as noted above. The brake will limit the frequency that you can make edits. You're welcome to improve your edits along the lines noted above, and then petition to have the vandal brake removed here: RationalWiki:Your mother's basement. Bongolian (talk) 02:22, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

I would make you sysop but that would be too controversial, nevertheless here you go. I don't think you deserve all the hate you get and your edits, barring minor spelling errors, are of substantive quality. If anyone tries fucking with you again, let me know. — Oxyaena ^Harass 04:30, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

The problem with this user isn't just "minor spelling errors" (see PSA about User:Anti-Authoritarian, their coop case, contributions and everything on this talk page). In short, to quote Bongolian, "The problem is that AA has not responded to advice despite multiple attempts at gentle nudges from different sysops." Just to use one example, how do you explain why they regularly add broken links? The only way I can explain mistakes like this (link to my correction) is if AA is trying to manually type out a web address instead of copying and pasting. AA is the only user who does this and, despite receiving feedback about this multiple times, has never explained why they do it.

AA's mistakes are not obvious in the diff so their edits get patrolled manually anyway since most users don't check if links work and they just patrol if it's not obviously vandalism. Unless AA responds to feedback I'm not sure how to resolve this. I've tried to raise awareness about the problem so other users keep a close eye on AA but that hasn't worked so far. I know from experience how frustrating it is to constantly fix many of their edits and it's unreasonable to expect other editors to waste time repeatedly fixing the same mistakes of another user. I must stress that users are allowed to make mistakes but AA's problem is that not only do they ignore feedback but they are making the same mistakes repeatedly with no sign of improving. CowHouse (talk) 07:42, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

AA should be sent back to the vandal bin unless they explicitly make a plea to be removed and explain how they're going to fix their behavior. Bongolian (talk) 15:18, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

@Bongolian@CowHouse I'd like to quickly apologize for being rash and acting out of ignorance. I assumed that AA had been punished some time before and had reformed into a useful editor, so I took them out of the vandal bin. I'm also one of the sysops who blindly patrolled their edits, although in my defense I've never seen a user who isn't a vandal but also can't be trusted with autopatrol before. In any case, I've put this user back in the bin and I regret resurrecting this can of worms. I'm gonna see what I can do to help make sure no one else falls into the same trap I did. DuceMoosolini^{Your friendly RW dictator moderator} 16:00, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, @DuceMoosolini. It was an unusual reason for vandal binning, but since it was the result of a coop vote, it should require more than a single person undoing it. Bongolian (talk) 17:18, 15 April 2019 (UTC)