RationalWiki:Duplicate articles/Archive12

Merge 21st Century Science and Technology and Lyndon LaRouche (merged)

Currently the 21st Century Science and Technology page is a stub and describes other topics about LaRouche so they might as well be merged. Vorarchivist (talk) 15:52, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

I agree, merge and leave a redirect. The LaRouche article already has similar (sub)sections on his various organisations and outlets. ScepticWombat (talk) 08:15, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Merge. Fuzzy "Cat" Potato, Jr. (talk/stalk) 16:40, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

—Goat-Emperor Bigs (Words of Wisdom/Achievements) 21:33, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

He dares taint the glowing reputation of my god Karl Friedrich Gauss? He shall pay for his ignorance and insolence! Please merge the two articles and give the latter an expansion on 21st Century Science and Technology. Nerd (talk) 01:14, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Yes, merge. Bongolian (talk) 04:23, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Merged!-(Ir)RationalWikian (talk) 06:21, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Merge Air America Radio into Liberal talk radio (merged)

Poor Air America, reduced to a footnote in an article on failed media experiments. Good thing they got out before the AM radio market completely crashed. Cosmikdebris (talk) 05:13, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

After examining both pages one can clearly see how easily these two could become one. Merge them. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 19:53, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Done. Regards, Cosmikdebris (talk) 20:01, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Merge Miracle Detectives with Oprah (Merged)

The former is a stub which would work well as an example of the kind of woo the latter endorses. The former also is/was a show on the latter's TV network, which means they can be tied together quite easily. Comrade GC (talk) 01:14, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

I say да БaбyЛuigiOнФire🚓^(T|C) 01:18, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

I say aye! Nerd (talk) 01:59, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Done.-(Ir)RationalWikian (talk) 21:16, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Merge Dubai into United Arab Emirates (merged)

Both articles are stubs, and Dubai in particular is really short. I propose Dubai become a section of the UAE article. 𝔊𝔬𝔞𝔱-𝔈𝔪𝔭𝔢𝔯𝔬𝔯 𝔅𝔦𝔤𝔰 (𝔴𝔬𝔯𝔡𝔰 𝔬𝔣 𝔴𝔦𝔰𝔡𝔬𝔪/𝔞𝔠𝔥𝔦𝔢𝔳𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔰) 20:17, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Sure, seems fair. I support this. X4Unknown (talk) 07:40, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Merge Ozone and Oxygen (Merged)

Ozone is a form of oxygen.-(Ir)RationalWikian (talk) 00:29, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

I think so. Wilder^Bicycle 19:54, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Two completely different subjects. Better candidates would be ozone and ozone layer. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 23:53, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

I don't see why ozone should not get a section in the article on oxygen. Nerd (talk) 03:08, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

No merge. —ClickerClock (talk) 10:52, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

@DiamondDisc1 @Readymade @LeftyGreenMario @ClickerClock Done! Nerd (talk) 04:02, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Merge Adbusters with Buy Nothing Day (merged)

Adbusters created Buy Nothing Day.-(Ir)RationalWikian (talk) 04:43, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Do it. Merge the latter into the former and leave a redirect. Cosmikdebris (talk) 04:49, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Merge!—ClickerClock (talk) 10:52, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Done. Cosmikdebris (talk) 13:53, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Merge New religious movement into Cult (merged)

The former is unreferenced and is a stub. It can be easily merged as a paragraph into the latter. Cosmikdebris (talk) 15:24, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

This was easy. Cosmikdebris (talk) 13:53, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Merge Sam Francis to Council of Conservative Citizens (and maybe Heritage Foundation and The Washington Times too) (Deleted)

The Sam Francis article is a pitiful stub with information that can easily be added as a subsection or a sidenote in a subsection in the respective articles. Articles of Heritage Foundation, Council of Conservative Citizens, and The Washington Times can all have some information on him while Council of Conservative Citizens can have the most information on him. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 21:53, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Go for it.-(Ir)RationalWikian (talk) 05:57, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Merge!—ClickerClock (talk) 10:52, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Overcome by events. Cosmikdebris (talk) 13:59, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Conflict thesis and Non-Overlapping Magisteria (merged)

Compare the first sentences of the summaries.

• "The conflict thesis refers to the idea that science and religion are incompatible. It may be considered as either a philosophical or historical issue."
• "Non-Overlapping Magisteria (NOMA) is a philosophical world view that places religion and science in separate domains of questioning ("magisteria") in order to avoid one contradicting the other."

These are literally on the exact same issue. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 16:04, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Nope. You missed the point of one of the two, dunno which. NOMA says "They can't ask the same questions" and conflict thesis says "When they ask the same questions they produce contradictory results implicitly putting them at odds". That is to say these are competing answers to the question of conflict between religious and scientific examination of the world.

By way of analogy, one is saying "My car and your truck have separate parking places marked clearly" and the other is saying "Our parking lines overlap and one of us is gonna have to move." ikanreed ^{You probably didn't deserve that} 16:30, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

I suppose you're right - thanks for clarifying that! Still, as NOMA is one of several answers given to the problem of the conflict hypothesis (the philosophical question of the compability between religion and science), I would support merging NOMA into Conflict thesis, and then growing that article into a Silver-or-better article. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 16:46, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

I guess so. They certainly both fit into the umbrella of mixing science and religion, and are both considered elements of theology. ikanreed ^{You probably didn't deserve that} 17:04, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes, in fact, you were right to explain how one is a subcategory of the other. Right now, they exist separately as Bronze-ish articles when they could unify to become Silver or better, and they are currently written in a way where one article doesn't seem overly aware of the other (though NOMA gets a stub mention in the Conflict thesis article). So, two for a merger, then? (Merging NOMA into Conflict thesis). Reverend Black Percy (talk) 17:07, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

ABSOLUTELY DO NOT MERGE NOMA INTO CONFLICT THEORY, PLEASE. Sorry for the boldcaps, but NOMA is a concept that's thrown around in casual apologetics all the time, and is really really really really important to any atheists who might be interested in the topic. Conflict theory, by comparison is relatively obscure and academic alone. The chances that NOMA is a landing page for outside searches is pretty high, and people are likely to be interested specifically in it and how to counter it as an argument. ikanreed ^{You probably didn't deserve that} 17:14, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm with Ikanreed here. For popularity reasons alone, NOMA must survive -- just as Last Thursdayism did. If anything, a merger of conflict thesis into NOMA would make more sense -- since the only reason conflict thesis is notable for our readers is because NOMA exists. Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 00:07, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Then, how's the support looking to merge conflict theory into NOMA? The point being that we consolidate a single article of higher quality, one that ties better into the wiki generally. (e.g. right now, the articles are a bit oblivious of each other). I'm for, by the way. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 00:10, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

That nets an "Oh alright, why not?" from me. ikanreed ^{You probably didn't deserve that} 13:43, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

That makes two for merging CF into NOMA, then. Fuzzy? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 13:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

These pages should absolutely not be merged. The Conflict Thesis refers specifically and discretely to a discrete historical context between 1850 and 1900, while the issue non-overlapping magisteria has its own entirely philosophical tradition going back to Augustine. The two traditions were never in contact with one another, and they make separate claims. The overlapping magisteria comes from the theology of the Church and its attempt to find a place for Aristotelian natural philosophy in the hierarchy of the university. The conflict thesis merely states that the Catholic Church held back the development of Western Science. They are entirely unrelated.HistSci (talk) 16:12, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

I can see your concern, and I don't plan to argue with you just yet. I'd just like to point out the obvious; that you are overselling your point by stating that the two (CF and NOMA) are, quote: "entirely unrelated". In strictly logical terms, not even your mother and I are entirely unrelated. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 17:56, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

A cursory glance through the sources cited in both articles doesn't suggest that these are synonymous or especially closely related theories. Wėąṣėḷőįď^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 23:31, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

That's because they are two competing theories that disagree with each other? FuzzyCatPotato of the Unbalanced Goat-botherers (talk/stalk) 12:53, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

So why merge them? Щєазєюіδ^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 07:16, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm against merging -- but we often include both the theory and the counter-theory in the same article, to more easily contrast them. Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 13:46, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

These are not theory and counter-theory. They are entirely unrelated. One is a theological argument originating in Augustine, while the other is a scholarly thesis making a discrete claim that the Catholic Church held back scientific development. HistSci (talk) 16:12, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

I've seen other places on the wiki where a sub-header of one page links to another page with a {{hatnote|See also: [[Example1]]}}, then that page has a subheader with another hatnote that links back; I think that's definitely more what this calls for, if anything. In general, I find the merge protocol on many wikis pretty heavily abused/stretched far beyond the intended use. ~ <3 17:59, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

I'll just note that both the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy and Wikipedia bring up CF and NOMA under the roof of the same article. In the former case, the article called Religion and Science. In the latter case, the article called Relationship between religion and science. So please, whatever you do — spare me the whole "they're entirely unrelated" canard. I'm willing to entertain that they should not be merged here, but insisting that the two issues are not contextually joined at the hip is daft. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 18:07, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure why HistSci seems to be trying to extend the fact that they had unrelated origins to mean that they are unrelated in entirety, but as it stands the two pages do have not-really-that-subtle links to eachother, and I personally find that enough. After all, that is basically how just about any wiki (or almost any website, for that manner) works; you see something you want to know more about, you click it. (Sorry if we don't yet have Siri asking aloud "Would You Like To Know More?" about the arachnids for you, at least not yet.) ~ <3 18:41, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

👎 No merge ClickerClock (talk) 04:24, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Merge passive resistance with Civil disobedience (merged)

they are both a single paragraph about a similar topic. The only problem is what the single page would be called. Vorarchivist (talk) 16:11, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Merge!!! —ClickerClock (talk) 02:39, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Merged. Cosmikdebris (talk) 22:25, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Roosevelt Recession into Great Depression (merged)

The 1937 recession was part of the Great Depression. If the Great Recession doesn't need its own article, why does the Roosevelt Recession? However, the Great Depression is major enough to keep its own article. —вιgℓʝвιgℓ (ᴛᴀʟᴋ/sᴛᴀʟᴋ) 03:41, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

@Bigljbigl Good suggestion. I copied and pasted materials from the Roosevelt Recession to the Great Depression. Nerd (talk) 03:41, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Merge Goddess with God (merged)

A goddess is basically a female god.-(Ir)RationalWikian (talk) 01:35, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

I don't see why not.—HamburgerPlate  (talk • stalk) 02:08, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

It seems more like goddess is a duplicate material. There's already information on the God article about Goddess as well as in Goddess movement. I think this article should be more about changing it to a mere redirect to God just for being redundant, while Goddess movement can be added to a "See also" section in case someone tries to look for Goddess movement by simply searching "Goddess". --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 03:14, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

@DiamondDisc1, @CheeseburgerFace, and @LeftyGreenMario, I have redirected Goddesss to God. I also moved some materials from the former to the latter. Nerd (talk) 14:28, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Should we merge diet with fad diet? (merged)

This page just describes what a diet is, while the fad diet article has the actual debunking.—HamburgerPlate  (talk • stalk) 22:20, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Makes sense. Doesn't sound like a bad idea. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 22:21, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Agreed. This page isn't exactly missional, and fad diet is on mission and does a better job explaining without being redundant. БaбyЛuigiOнФire🚓^(T|C) 22:21, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

👍-(Ir)RationalWikian (talk) 01:02, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Merge!—ClickerClock (talk) 10:52, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Merge Raymond Buckland with Wicca (merged)

Raymond Buckland was a founder of a branch of Wicca.-(Ir)RationalWikian (talk) 05:40, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

The differences bewtween most early branches of Wicca were fairly minor (dianic probably excepted). I think they and their founders could all just go into the History section of Wicca. ^{— Unsigned, by: Readymade / talk / contribs 19:57, 3 February 2018 (UTC)}

Merged. Cosmikdebris (talk) 00:53, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Merge homosexual recruitment with homosexual agenda (merged)

-(Ir)RationalWikian (talk) 15:40, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Merge !!!! ClickerClock (talk) 04:25, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

@DiamondDisc1 I second that motion. Please proceed. Nerd (talk) 03:42, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Merged. Cosmikdebris (talk) 01:49, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Merge Jay Wile with Apologia Educational Ministries (merged)

Both articles are small stubs, and Wile's article could be easily merged into the AEM article. Cosmikdebris (talk) 22:27, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. БaбyЛuigiOнФire🚓^(T|C) 22:30, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Seems appropriate. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 22:31, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

A merge would definitely result in an improvement. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 22:34, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Agreed. Where on Earth do you guys find people like these?! Nerd (talk) 23:14, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

@Cosmikdebris, @BabyLuigiOnFire, @LeftyGreenMario, and @GrammarCommie, I merged the two articles. Apologia Educational Ministries has been redirected to Jay Wile. Nerd (talk) 23:25, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

The world is a small place, my Nerd. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 23:49, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Awesomeness. Cosmikdebris (talk) 23:54, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Merge!-(Ir)RationalWikian (talk) 21:52, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Merge George Rekers into Haggard's Law (merged)

-(Ir)RationalWikian (talk) 21:53, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Oh yeah! --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 21:54, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Done. Cosmikdebris (talk) 00:47, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Merge Help:Links and Help:Linking style (merged)

They are both about links. —ClickerClock (talk) 02:33, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Done. Cosmikdebris (talk) 19:18, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Merge Help:PermaDiff and RW:Sysop Guide (merged)

Pretty much no one reads Help:PermaDiff and Help:PermaDiff is related to patrolling. —ClickerClock (talk) 02:38, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Done. Cosmikdebris (talk) 19:22, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Merge Philosophy with Philosophy of mind (merged)

-(Ir)RationalWikian (talk) 04:11, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Based on the very brief article currently at Philosophy of mind, a merge would be straightforward. THere are other, more substantial articles on philosophy of mind topics such as consciousness, so they could be preserved and wikilinked if appropriate. Expanding the current article to a longer overview of philosophy of mind doesn't seem very missional. --Gospatric (talk) 12:52, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Merge!—ClickerClock (talk) 10:52, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

@DiamondDisc1, @Gospatric, and @ClickerClock, Philosophy of mind has been merged into Philosophy#Branches. Nerd (talk) 23:33, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Merge Ashtar with Pleiadians (merged)

Ashtar is better as a section of Pleiadians.-(Ir)RationalWikian (talk) 06:09, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Merge! —ClickerClock (talk) 06:03, 4 November 2017 (UTC)