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This page needs more GOAT

GHammer and Sickle text gold.svgdlessLiberal 22:16, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

It sure does. Nice to see you back :) humanUser talk:Human 23:09, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
Speaking of that, can I be a sysop again? ΓHammer and Sickle text gold.svgδλεσςΛιβεραλ 14:47, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
Of course. humanUser talk:Human 14:51, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
Just in time; we need to start creating some content to that NT and Bodhan don't become the sole purpose of the site.--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 14:52, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
"Content"? What's that? humanUser talk:Human 14:54, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
When I am made the ruler of this site, you will be banned for that. Bohdan 14:55, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
Thanks, human. Bohdan, my powers are at your disposal. ΓHammer and Sickle text gold.svgδλεσςΛιβεραλ 14:55, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
Oh noes!!! flees the coming armagoatdon humanUser talk:Human 15:02, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
In attempt to undermine Bohdan's future reign And bring about my own I hereby request Cratship, and anything else that you can throw in. Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 15:17, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
I thought you already were, Pinto bean guy. Did you get to play with the tools and have them taken away after the fun was over? humanUser talk:Human 17:57, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
No, I never was a Crat. Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 18:00, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
Of course, doh, I was mixing it up with syslopness. Oh well. humanUser talk:Human 18:03, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
The 'vaporize' tab makes it a lot more tempting to delete stuff... it just sounds so much cooler! I'm going to go create random stuff and delete it. ΓHammer and Sickle text gold.svgδλεσςΛιβεραλ 18:22, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Thank u...[edit]

...for the compliment. | DINESENyep? 01:22, 4 November 2007 (EDT)

You are fully welcome. humanUser talk:Human 01:31, 4 November 2007 (EST)

Red Links[edit]

Is there a way to find articles that have loads of redlinks? I'm envisioning a list of pages sorted by number of redlinks in descending order. Sort of like a reverse Wanted Pages. That might be an efficient way of going after them, and also of tracking down serial redlink-creators for horsewhipping goatwhipping.--Bayesupdate 16:18, 6 November 2007 (EST)

Here 16:20, 6 November 2007 (EST)
Wanted pages shows a list of non-extant pages that are linked to. I'm thinking of a list of extant pages sorted by the number of redlinks that they contain.--Bayesupdate 16:34, 6 November 2007 (EST)
Yeah, I know what you mean - a gold mine list. I try to find them by following "odd" entries on the wp list - scored two gems today, one a subpage of hoji's (it's his cp page, unedited, so it's full of links that don't work), and the awful [[essay:New World Order]] page, which I removed, I swear, a hundred links from today. (wp went from 905 to 770 in the last couple hours...). But there ought to be a way to do what you suggest. I just don't know how. So I'd suggesting asking Trent and/or Linus, they have more skills, especially on back end stuff, which might be required.
Speaking of red links, do you want to remove this one, now that the essay is gone? (Anyone else, and I'd do it myself with an explanation and an apology, but I'd rather ask you first.) Thanks, Researcher 03:29, 19 December 2007 (EST)
Done, and hey, feel free to do it yourself when you find anything like that on my pages. It's always easy to revert if there was a reason for a link... humanUser talk:Human 14:13, 19 December 2007 (EST)
Danke, and will do. Researcher 15:41, 19 December 2007 (EST)


Well, I've managed to block you for pi minutes, but I can't seem to unblock you. It tells me that the Block ID isn't found. Any suggestions? Stile4aly 23:20, 10 November 2007 (EST)

The block may have expired before you tried to undo it. You could try a longer time, check out the various block logs that can be looked at, note that when you go to block a user you can see their block history below the boxes you fill in... humanUser talk:Human 13:11, 11 November 2007 (EST)


Hey how do we create accounts on conservapedia, managed it once...but can't see to find it again. When i look at the login/create account I don't see a create any account button.The LoraxSlackers! 01:11, 11 November 2007 (EST)

They're likely on account creation lockdown. Happens :-P It should be back up tomorrow, I think their servers take the Lord's day off :-)-αmεσ (heckuva job!) 13:14, 11 November 2007 (EST)
It gets turned off at night - usually around 9 PST (12 EST). I think it's automatic, though my sock has been unable to edit sometimes at 8:50, and sometimes I'm still able to edit at 9:30. Perhaps it's manually turned on/off. --Ζωροάστρης 00:49, 13 November 2007 (EST)

Your on RW beta right?[edit]

Can you see if you can make this more visually appealing? Tables maybe? tmtoulouse vex 00:45, 13 November 2007 (EST)

Can you make the poll thing run on one line only? And not create a blank line before it? Otherwise, it looks pretty good already. Maybe the arrows could be "thumbs up" and "thumbs down"? buttons in the middle, options to left and right of them? humanUser talk:Human 00:56, 13 November 2007 (EST)
Okay I will work on it. tmtoulouse vex 00:59, 13 November 2007 (EST)
Check again? tmtoulouse vex 01:34, 13 November 2007 (EST)
OK, the thumbs are cool. I wish it was easy to tell you what I mean. Put the thumbs in the "middle" making the vote obvious. Text to the left and right. And make it centered automatically? But it's getting better... all the time... it can't get now worse, hehe humanUser talk:Human 02:32, 13 November 2007 (EST)
Okay, I am done for tonight its 4 am. Take a look and see what you think and see what others think. tmtoulouse vex 03:54, 13 November 2007 (EST)


I think that needs a timeout. --Edgerunner76 15:02, 13 November 2007 (EST)

Thank you. --Edgerunner76 15:18, 13 November 2007 (EST)

You're welcome. humanUser talk:Human 15:19, 13 November 2007 (EST)


I have ported the system over from Beta to the main wiki and set-up an example at User:Tmtoulouse/wigosample when you get a chance... tmtoulouse vex 17:21, 13 November 2007 (EST)

C.E. Young'uns[edit]

Good name. On principle I like to choose my own, but I must admit I have no ideas coming to me at the moment. Did I choose mostly youngsters (of course, we must count the man-child Andy as a youngster)? I wasn't aware. Then again, the collective naivete makes me assume so many of them are children (is Ken really older than 16?).

Thanks. I just came up with after naming my team, and picked your team as a possible use of the name. Mostly I was trying to spread the silly team naming meme to other users, though. humanUser talk:Human 20:44, 13 November 2007 (EST)

By the way, 'Tony Franciosa used to date my mom'. I guess that's not the same guy though. DickTurpis 20:41, 13 November 2007 (EST)

No, not the same guy. Did the one who dated your mom know how to execute a perfect double-switch? humanUser talk:Human 20:44, 13 November 2007 (EST)

proposed block[edit] Click on the link and see why. Elassint Throw things at me

Is this IP editing our stuff? I couldn't find it easily in recent changes... humanUser talk:Human 20:53, 13 November 2007 (EST)
The ip address belongs to the Westboro Baptist Church. Elassint Throw things at me
Yes, I saw that, but there's no point in pro-actively blocking IPs, is there? The IP hasn't edited here at all, and may never try. Unless I am missing something here... humanUser talk:Human 21:00, 13 November 2007 (EST)
Agreed, unless/until this IP or a user from this IP makes edits that we deem objectionable then there isn't much point in going out of our way to block it. CЯacke®


Can you finish archiving tmtidiots page for me? I could delete the stuff fine, but when I went to paste it in "archive 9" I couldn't do it. Obviously tmt is at fault. Thanks in advance. Bohdan 15:35, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Gee, yeah, what happened to your skillz? You mean I have to rollback your deletion first, too? Since I can't paste what you cut, can I? I done did it. humanUser talk:Human 16:03, 14 November 2007 (EST)
Actually, you could have gone in the history and copied from before I did anything. I could not paste such a large amount of material, tmtoulouse is a fool for not archiving sooner. I am about to propose a community ban against him. Can I count on your vote? Bohdan 16:05, 14 November 2007 (EST)
Sure, I'll vote. Which way, I will not reveal in advance of the plebiscite, of course. humanUser talk:Human 16:07, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Susan's playing[edit]

I'm gonna be playing with templates & some help files for a couple of hours. I'll clear up after (unless it works!) :-p. Susan... purrrrrr ... 19:17, 14 November 2007 (EST)

HA! Thanks for the heads up, I'll turn up my freakout threshold for the duration ;) humanUser talk:Human 20:23, 14 November 2007 (EST)
Have a few tall cool ones or some short single malted ones, (NO ICE). CЯacke®


Why did you delete [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]? Ron Paul 21:32, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Stupidity, mostly (of the article and its subject). See Fun:Encyclopedia Dramatica if you think you can improve it. humanUser talk:Human 21:35, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Excuse me.[edit]

Please stop vandalising my userpage psst.. I'm on your side — Unsigned, by: A Conservative / talk / contribs

Oh, but it was so much fun! And it helps build your cover. humanUser talk:Human 20:19, 15 November 2007 (EST)

OK. And just so you know, i am a sockpuppet of Elassint

I know. humanUser talk:Human 20:24, 15 November 2007 (EST) And why are we whispering?
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you! I didn't know there were sockpuppets allowed here!CЯacke® 20:27, 15 November 2007 (EST)
Oh, grow the fuck up Cracker. (Stoopid username) Toe Tapping Republican
Hey, keep your feet in your own stall, buddy! humanUser talk:Human 21:09, 15 November 2007 (EST)

War on Christmas[edit]

Added a link. I remember the fooferaw when it happened. (They fixed it shortly thereafter.) Researcher 23:54, 15 November 2007 (EST)

Got it, thanks very much. I suspected you, of all people, might have sources... BOR is insane... humanUser talk:Human 23:57, 15 November 2007 (EST)
I'm a big believer in sources, but I had to go look it up, because while I remembered it, I hadn't bothered to research it first. Researcher 23:59, 15 November 2007 (EST)


Any chance you could give me crat status? It is possible that we may need someone to have those powerz while the US sleeps.--Bobbing up 04:13, 16 November 2007 (EST)

Thy will be done. I trusteth thou. Or something like that. Uze yr pwrz fr gud nt evl! humanUser talk:Human 02:34, 20 November 2007 (EST)
Good. Thanks. :-)--Bobbing up 04:45, 20 November 2007 (EST)

Censoring my comment on Cracker's page[edit]

No, I don't mind that you did that - I think it speaks to what we're trying to get at - If I don't think links to the Nazi Party belong of W-power's userpage, I shouldn't have a hard time with you toning down the strong language that I was using only to make a point.PFoster 22:50, 18 November 2007 (EST)

I'm glad you don't mind - the original is, of course, in the edit record. I really, truly, appreciate your commment and perspective. You wanna know why I hate comedy central sometimes? Because they play n----r "comedy". I don't want to get comfortable using that word. Ever. No matter how much black comedians use it. I hope this response makes sense? humanUser talk:Human 00:29, 19 November 2007 (EST)
I agree. However I have a question, what is going on around here? By that I mean that it seems that there has been more tension between editors around here than usual in the past week or so. Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 01:22, 19 November 2007 (EST)

maybe it has something to do with all the nazi/white supremicist garbage that the site has been attracting ever since RW and Metapedia got each other in their sights? Cause that's been pissing me off to no end and making RW way less fun than it used to be. PFoster 14:22, 19 November 2007 (EST)

I don't think so - we've had plenty of little spats or discussions over time. The fact that none have turned into outright decampments to war is pretty cool. And, yeah, PFoster, we managed to get lined up for a particular insidious brand of wandalism. Which gets us arguing the free speech vs. censorship issue, even though we are probably all clustered very close together on whatever spectrum could be drawn for that issue. humanUser talk:Human 14:29, 19 November 2007 (EST)

Thanks (2)[edit]

Just realised that you'd changed the background colour on the ? piccy - thanks. Susan... miaow ... 07:13, 20 November 2007 (EST)

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(Soostar) Susan... miaow ... 08:35, 20 November 2007 (EST)

Aw, thanksies! Wasn't that days ago? As I recall it took about eleven seconds to do... and you're welcome! humanUser talk:Human 14:02, 20 November 2007 (EST)


Done. Though the scores are not official. I tallied up the final scores for the fantasy league and posted the winners. Congratulations, you won the 7 player division, by a good margin too. DickTurpis 15:04, 20 November 2007 (EST)


Cheers for editing my stuff, I'm lazy at proof reading things. Question though, shouldn't Earth, the Sun and The Moon (when referring to Earth's natural satellite) be capitalised as proper names? --JeēvsYour signature uses all my CPU time... 18:08, 27 November 2007 (EST)

YVW. As far as that, it's a tough call sometimes. Certainly not with a "the" in front of them, no. It's "the moon, which we pretentiously call Luna, rules the night while the sun, a/k/a Sol, rules the day as seen from our planet, which we call Terra". See how Sol and Luna are like Jupiter, but the words earth, sun and moon are not proper nouns. Similarly, universe is not either. Since there was some slight inconsistency in the article, I decided to run the way I did - if it had been entirely internally consistent, I would have left it alone probably. The tough call is when "earth" is uaed without "the" - "The moon lights Earth's nighttime sky" vs. "The moon pees on the earth's evenings" makes my head potentially hurt. I've also got your creation/social history thing in my sights ;)
By the way, that moon/sun article is awesome. That was a lot of work just to school a bunch of twits! humanUser talk:Human 19:02, 27 November 2007 (EST)
Yeah, one day I'll finish that article. It's just tedious, because I have to actually try and find books I own. --JeēvsYour signature uses all my CPU time... 19:11, 27 November 2007 (EST)

hydrogen from cellulose[edit]

I added this to the hydrogen article. But as you're always interested in alternative energy I thought I draw your attention to it here. --Bobbing up 14:51, 28 November 2007 (EST)

Thanks, that's a cool article! The whole AE field is ripe for apollo-mission level research and development revolutions and successes, IMHO, as long as oil-soaked (US) politicians don't continue to hamstring it. Oh well, due to US peak oil passing 30 odd years ago, at least we won't get more generations of patchiots out of texas...


You have an awesome quarter collection!!1!1 --Signed by Elassint the Great Hi! 21:26, 28 November 2007 (EST)

Haha, thanks! I actually only have about 2/3 of them, the images were copped at the us mint website. wikipedia has monster hi res images of all of them. The last five were just announced, so I got to load them up.
Here is what I have, which shows what I need, hint hint: & check out the uberkewl map I made in a obsessive minute or 200. humanUser talk:Human 21:40, 28 November 2007 (EST)

Jeb and Metapedia[edit]

With the exception of User:WHITE POWER all of the "nazi socks", including me, are Jeb socks. Also Jeb is not a MP user actually, just a visitor and defender against left-wing propaganda. Duo 22:29, 30 November 2007 (EST)

Gee, thanks. But from now on I'm going to call all nazi-esque visitors here the "Teletubby Gang" humanUser talk:Human 22:37, 30 November 2007 (EST)
And we know that you all take orderz from Elassint! humanUser talk:Human 22:41, 30 November 2007 (EST)
teletubbies on the march!!!
This, at least is true. But Teletubby Gang" has a nice ring as well.--Bobbing up 08:39, 2 December 2007 (EST)

Nav keyword[edit]

Remember how you asked if the keyword could be hidden on the help pages (helpnav keyword)? - dun it! Susanpurrrrr ... 07:13, 2 December 2007 (EST)

Excellent! I don't remember how it was a problem (ie, the old format), but certainly works now! humanUser talk:Human 15:22, 4 December 2007 (EST)

Name Change[edit]

Hey Human, can you change my username from "Olliegrind" to "BeastmasterGeneral" (without the quotes)? Thanks! ollïegrïnd 13:36, 4 December 2007 (EST)

OK, I did it. You better check to make sure everything works properly for you
And check your sig if it's custom. humanUser talk:Human 14:00, 4 December 2007 (EST)
THANKS! The Beastmäster General 15:15, 4 December 2007 (EST)
You are most welcome. I see the new clothes seem to be fitting nicely! humanUser talk:Human 15:21, 4 December 2007 (EST)

welsh colour[edit]

[ Sloe black! ] Susanpurrrrr ... 20:14, 4 December 2007 (EST)

It would be funny, if it weren't so horrifying[edit]

Whilst I was wondering about dar interwebs, I came across this wonderfully loony site. I'll spare you the link to it, but it's called the "Liberty Guard of New America", one of those kooky militant anti-government sites. Oh, hell, here's the link: [1]. It's telling just how off-mainstream they are that the first ten listings in Google mentioning the organization consisted of newspaper articles mentioning them in passing and, believe it or not, their Myspace page. I found Ed Brown reasonable (or, as reasonable as holing yourself up in your wooded home and calling for revolution can be), right up until he started mentioning the Illuminati.

As for their revised constitution, this has got to be my favorite part:

"Freedom of Religion" therefore as such; shall be enforced in New America as the the public display of worship of Jesus The Christ alone. This preservation shall not include those who would chose to allegedly serve "god" through any "secret societies" or "closed to public access" dark questionable-christian formats that are punishable by penalty of law. It is NOT mandatory for one to be a protestant Christian in New America, but no other religion shall be preserved or protected by the New American Constitution. Neither shall any other religion be practiced in any public venue. Nor shall any other religion indoctrination materials or forms of persuasion be allowed. To attempt to do so is TREASON.

I half expect them to say something about upholding the white race, too.

Care to join me in ripping it apart, just for fun? --My cat is smarter than Andrew Schafly RA harass stalk 02:25, 6 December 2007 (EST)

Hahaha, I think I have seen that before. It's, er, batshit insane of course. I find it hilarious - I would only find it scary if it were written in decent English. And used real math! Note in the Executive thing, it's a 12 member council, with 6 year terms, and two people are replaced every two years. Does not compute... In fact, even the opening section is fairly illiterate. Reads like it was written as a first draft by an angry drunk with poor language skills at 3 in the morning. The only drag to ripping it apart would be reproducing enough (or all) of it to be fair and clear - there's an awful lot of gibberish to be copied over, and our reader's eyes will fall out of their sockets. Still, it might be fun... do you want to whip up a format in a sandbox so we can see how it looks? humanUser talk:Human 13:49, 6 December 2007 (EST)
I'm playing here. Feel free to copy it to your own sandbox to work on. Please don't edit my version for now. Although comments on the sandbox talk page are welcome. humanUser talk:Human 14:46, 6 December 2007 (EST)

Thanks (3)[edit]

Thanks for the prompt thing on the EC page. (I'm at work, and can't always look things up like I'd like.) If you're interested, two times when the popular vote winner lost the election were in 1820 (I think) when Jackson lost to JQ Adams, and in 1876 when Tilden lost to Hayes. However, in each case, it wasn't that one won the EC, but instead other factors were at play. (No one won the EC in 1820, sending it to the House; returns from 4 states were disputed in 1876, resulting in a VERY corrupt bargain.)

By the way--you seriously rock. Researcher 19:30, 6 December 2007 (EST)

Aw, shucks, thanks. I'd return the compliment but then we'd have 12 other RWians over here telling us to get a room!
One thing the current EC does do (I should mention it over there) is solve the "no one won" problem, especially in serious 3-way races. It let JFK win with just under 50%, and of course Clinton with under 40% (IIRC) in the '92 3-way race. Of course, there are better ways of doing this, my favorite of which is IRV. Instant Runoff Voting lets people vote for their real first choice first, and order their 2nd, 3rd, etc. after that, as I'm sure you know. Which would give 3rd (etc.) parties a chance to show their real support, even if they don't/can't win. EG, we'd know who Perot voters really undermined, Bush or Clinton, and Nader voters could have had Gore as a second choice, letting them feel free to vote their conscience first. I'm sure there are also examples where this would have helped a Republican, too, of course. humanUser talk:Human 15:11, 7 December 2007 (EST)
(Get a room.)--Bobbing up 15:15, 7 December 2007 (EST)
It *might* have helped Dewey, actually, since Strom's supporters were particularly pissed at Truman for integrating the military. I'm also a fan of that, but it would require a complete restructuring of our system in each state. Though it might be possible to do in ONE state, but then almost every state ends up going for one person or another anyway. (What I mean is, even if a third party gets enough votes nationally to keep the winner in a plurality, the winner still gets the majority in each of the states they win, if I understand thing correctly. But I could be wrong; I've never studied the state vote breakdowns before.) Researcher 15:18, 7 December 2007 (EST)
Yes, pretty much. It results in someone eventually getting over 50% no matter how split up the votes are. As far as boosting 3rd (etc.) parties, it would let people vote Green or Libertarian (EG) first, and Dem or GOP second - signalling support for their ideal candidate without "throwing away their vote". Meaning we would see how many people really held those beliefs. I think the results might be surprising. As far as implementing IRV, yes, I think it would happen at the local/state "incubator" level first. Whether it would be used to eliminate the EC or not is another question, since that's in the darn constitution. I do believe there are some activist groups trying to instate IRV in some cities; and also there are other countries/lovalities using it. But that's off the top of my head, without researching what "I think I know", hehe. Like my dumbass thing about JFK/RMN. Which is why I yanked it ASAP from the EC article - I was the idiot who put it in there... humanUser talk:Human 15:24, 7 December 2007 (EST)

Helios wuz here[edit]

As long as I'm here, I thought I'd drop by to say hi. ɧєɭıסş-get sunburn! 01:00, 10 December 2007 (EST)

Hiya Helios, yes, it's been a cloudy/snowy few days, so a little ray of sunshine is welcome ;) humanUser talk:Human 14:01, 10 December 2007 (EST)


what kind of slur is that? Bohdan 16:40, 11 December 2007 (EST)

Huh? Wha? How? Hi Bohdan! How have you been? humanUser talk:Human 17:16, 11 December 2007 (EST)

Thanks, fella :)[edit]

Don't know if this is Assfly news to you or not, but I just had great fun reading this. --Robledo 18:00, 11 December 2007 (EST)

Haha, thanks, I think I had seen some of that before - somewhere on there Andy is busy trying to school a bunch of evil atheists on the origins of Devil's Mountain in Wyoming. (The Global Flood created it, of course!). It was hilarious to watch him flounder without editorial control over what other people can say. humanUser talk:Human 14:35, 12 December 2007 (EST)

sysop powers activate[edit]

Alright, so I apologized. Give me my sysop powers back and I will come make life more interesting at RW. HeartGoldCall me a name 01:14, 12 December 2007 (EST)

So I saw, over at BobM's talk page. & he accepted, so the past is the past. Apparently, the mob wants to "vote" on it. My personal feeling (if I felt free to act on my own & ignore the mob) would be to say, "how about making life more interesting for a week or two first?" Someone suggested a 3 month probation on your talk page, which I think is absurd for a 6 month old wiki, but what I usually do is if I see a new, busy editor who seems to have the site's goals in their sights, I figure they might as well be a sysop so they can block vandals as well. And that usually only takes a week or two. I'll go paste something like this on the "vote" debate at your talk page...
By the way, I know you probably didn't mean it, but the wording of your request above is almost like an ultimatum. humanUser talk:Human 14:19, 12 December 2007 (EST)


Thanks very much. I promise to use my powers for good and not evil. Is there a "so you're a sysop now" brochure I need to read or sump'n? PFoster 15:20, 12 December 2007 (EST)

I'm not sure if there's a concise set of advice anywhere. If there is, Susan probably wrote it and put it under "help". I was thinking as I just demoted you and Edgerunner76 that a "newsysop" template would be cool, and could link to a "sysop guidelines" article, if we wrote it. We'll see if I get any work done today, if I do I might try to create them. And, you're welcome! humanUser talk:Human 15:33, 12 December 2007 (EST)
I just emailed you something I had kept from a previous foray of trying to write something up along the lines of what you are talking about. I was going to slap it on my page, but decided it might engender too much extraneous talk. If it is of help, or could be, feel free to use it. --TK/MyTalk 18:48, 13 December 2007 (EST)
Thanks, yes, I got it. The sysop guide thing. It's interesting, I may try to steal some of it to make something for RW. Of course, it will get vandalized edited mercilessly, but it would be nice to have for new sysops to check out. Explanation of their new buttons, etc. humanUser talk:Human 19:39, 13 December 2007 (EST)

Chances of being a sysop...[edit]

Exponentials aren't a nice enough way to express your chances. Rather than 999, how about 999. Look up tetration. Thats a big number. --Shagie 17:35, 13 December 2007 (EST)

Wow, yeah, that is a big number! Did you ever follow the annual MIT "biggest number on a blackboard" competition? Of course, they end up using words, not "digits", and set theory and other weird stuff. By the way, you don't need the "small" tag, "sup"s are automatically smaller. humanUser talk:Human 18:19, 13 December 2007 (EST)


I know what you said, but I amn't really bothered with an encyclopedic entry on Libertarianism. I love satire. The article on Libertarianism is just silly looking. RW isn't an encyclopedia, so why would I write one? I think someone should write a satirical entry... but not one that merely misrepresents it and comes out with a ream of cliches... Hope I've made things clearer, and sorry if I offended you at all. MarcusCicero 18:47, 13 December 2007 (EST)

No offense taken... the tough thing is that we don't really do "pure" satire - we are trying to actually cover things, although with our POV (the one ont he main page), and, with our seemingly endless need to make at least ourselves laugh. Pure satire belongs on uncyclopedia, I think. Or I bet liberapedia would love a good satire of libertarianism. So, is that the only article here that you've read, or just the only one you think is "silly looking"? After all, this is a wiki, and everything is a work in progress. Maybe no one wants to work on that article on this particular day when you request us to rewrite it? humanUser talk:Human 19:43, 13 December 2007 (EST)
I like the way this place is a pisstake - I've been lurking around for a while now and have read a few articles. MarcusCicero 08:55, 16 December 2007 (EST)


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I have tagged you for puppetry. You are not allowed to edit or remove the tag until the situation is cleared up. Thank you. Bohdan 19:42, 13 December 2007 (EST)

Why, how delightful. Who or what was the sockpuppet I am suspected of running? humanUser talk:Human 19:44, 13 December 2007 (EST)
User:Tmtoulouse and User:AmesG. They have also been warned. Bohdan 19:45, 13 December 2007 (EST)
Which one of us is "real" do you think? humanUser talk:Human 19:55, 13 December 2007 (EST)
Well, obviously not User:Tmtoulouse. He has no personality. Obviously a sock. I'm guessing your a sock of AmesG. Bohdan 19:56, 13 December 2007 (EST)
Hmmm, but how you be sure? I often wear the same socks for several days in a row, you know. And I run four socks on RW, none smelly. humanUser talk:Human 19:59, 13 December 2007 (EST)
Thats the point of the tagging. Now the investigation starts. Bohdan 20:03, 13 December 2007 (EST)
Good luck with that, since we disabled checkuser. Do you need to subpwna my tapes? humanUser talk:Human 20:04, 13 December 2007 (EST)
This will all be done Holistically Bohdan 20:09, 13 December 2007 (EST)
Ah, that's a relief! humanUser talk:Human 20:11, 13 December 2007 (EST)
No way these people are socks! --Cheers,Ryanǂ wuz here ǂ 01:36, 14 December 2007 (EST)
Chunky hunks of meat yuncks, maybe? humanUser talk:Human 02:09, 14 December 2007 (EST)

I pester you because you're the only user here I'm familiar with[edit]

Commence pestering:

Look! New template!

Warning: This page may contain blasphemy.
You can help it by burning in Hades.
 --My cat is smarter than Andrew Schafly RA harass stalk 00:51, 14 December 2007 (EST)
Well, gee, thank you :) (I think) humanUser talk:Human 02:07, 14 December 2007 (EST)
Easily stolen from uncyclopedia [2] — Unsigned, by: Elassint / talk / contribs
Ah, correct, young grasshopper, but, who was that made it on Uncyclopedia in the first place? Moi! And whose genius was it to bring it over here? Moi! --My cat is smarter than Andrew Schafly RA harass stalk 05:40, 15 December 2007 (EST)

Crazy Constitution thingy[edit]

I finished my commentary...what the heck should we title it, and what namespace does it go in? Researcher 16:37, 14 December 2007 (EST)

Well, first, I think the mainspace would be fine. However, if there's a lot of first person voice in it from you, or if you don't want it mercilessly "improved", then it should go in essay. As far as a title... do we know the name of the "group" that made this thing up? As an essay, it could just be "Constitutional lunacy" or something. Hmm, that would work in main, too, I guess. "Alternative consitution for an alternative universe" is a bit long... the lunacy one is easy to remember and might actually get linked once in a while. Give me a link when you put it up, will ya? humanUser talk:Human 16:51, 14 December 2007 (EST)
By the way, my first reaction was that "Crazy Constitution thingy" was a pretty good title... humanUser talk:Human 16:52, 14 December 2007 (EST)
Went with the actual title of the piece Constitution of the New America. It's in mainspace, and people can edit it. (If I feel the edits get crazy, I can always put another version in essay later, right?) Researcher 16:57, 14 December 2007 (EST)
'Twas made by the Liberty Guard of New America. Which is in no way affiliated with Ron Paul for President, in case you thought "Gee, these guys sound a lot like Ron Paul's loony supporters" :) --My cat is smarter than Andrew Schafly RA harass stalk 05:44, 15 December 2007 (EST)

Human's gone! Everyone try him in absentia![edit]

Oooh, me first! He's... smelly!-αmεσ (heckuva job!) 01:30, 15 December 2007 (EST)

Bitch is guilty! To the crushing fields!-- Offeep 01:31, 15 December 2007 (EST)
He's a sexist, egotistical, lying, hypocritical bigot. Stile4aly 01:32, 15 December 2007 (EST)

Move to desysop?-αmεσ (heckuva job!) 01:35, 15 December 2007 (EST)

Second!-αmεσ (heckuva job!) 01:35, 15 December 2007 (EST)

HERETICAL DISCUSSION CENSORED BY TEH CABAL.-αmεσ (heckuva job!) 01:36, 15 December 2007 (EST)

I've desysoped you[edit]

To appease Bohdan. Since you still have your other skillz feel free to reverse. I seem to have left you bureaucrat privileges, though. I wonder why.-αmεσ (heckuva job!) 18:51, 16 December 2007 (EST)

Ha Ha! Yes, justice is served! Bohdan 18:54, 16 December 2007 (EST)
Service is just Ed! humanUser talk:Human 19:06, 16 December 2007 (EST)

What! How did you manage to resysop yourself! It's impossible! Impossible I say!-αmεσ (heckuva job!) 19:08, 16 December 2007 (EST)

How can he do that when he's still a bureaucrat? Impossible, I agree. --Cheers,Ryanǂ wuz here ǂ 01:36, 17 December 2007 (EST)

defend the human race[edit]

Hey someone (probably truthist, although he's not logging in) keeps posting that junk about our reptilian overlords on the main talk page. I rolled it back twice but it keeps magically reappearing. Any chance you can use your sysop powers to, like, vaporize him or something cool like that? --BillOhannity 21:41, 16 December 2007 (EST)

Yeah, I just removed 80k of raving spam from talk:main. Twits... we should add a link to that site from one of our crank or PS articles, though, to get them some hits and reknown! * humanUser talk:Human 22:24, 16 December 2007 (EST)
*Methinks that'd be playing into his hands.**Susanpurrrrr ... 22:48, 16 December 2007 (EST)
Thanks for deleting the tripe - too big for my editor.Susanpurrrrr ... 22:29, 16 December 2007 (EST)
Man, yeah, that crap gets old fast. I blocked the IP who last added it for 3 days, but that might not be much help. humanUser talk:Human
**But the site is hilarious! We just don't want to freakin' host it for them. It's a classic, along with cubic zirconian time and that silly constitution for a dumber america. humanUser talk:Human 22:51, 16 December 2007 (EST)
I could take on that task again. I find it fun and soothing to read and snark stupidity. But I'll leave it to the collective will of the mob. Researcher 20:08, 17 December 2007 (EST)

i like cake[edit]

Cake is goooooooooood!Insert non-formatted text here

You beat me to the punch -[edit]

All day long I been thinkin' "How come I gets to be a sysop and Researcher don't? He busts his ass around here. I should tell one of the muckity-mucks to get off their ass and do somethin' 'bout that..." Good call. PFoster 17:49, 20 December 2007 (EST)

Thanks, and I hope he doesn't mind. I think anyone who works as hard as he does should have blocking powers to make vandalism cleanup easier. I know I really appreciate virtually never having to do it, all I ever see is the trail of rollbacks. humanUser talk:Human 17:55, 20 December 2007 (EST)
I don't mind at all. There have been a (very) few times I've wanted it to deal with some vandal or other because it didn't seem anyone else was on. Thank you very much. Researcher 18:33, 20 December 2007 (EST)
You are most welcome. humanUser talk:Human 18:41, 20 December 2007 (EST)


er, I just discovered I've carved this turkey over 12,500 or so times... dang. humanUser talk:Human 22:59, 20 December 2007 (EST)

out of "109,886 page edits since RationalWiki was setup". humanUser talk:Human 23:00, 20 December 2007 (EST)
Dayum. Get a hobby. ΓδλεσςΛιβεραλ 13:08, 21 December 2007 (EST)
Apparently, this is my hobby. maybe I need to get a life... humanUser talk:Human 15:09, 21 December 2007 (EST)


Since a certain redirect to Idaho was debatable, I redirected it to you. I hope you appreciate this more than Bohdan did. --Wandalise me Bohdan! RA talk stalkOver 145 edits! 23:11, 20 December 2007 (EST)

Haha, I'll consider myself tagged... thanks. I suppose it's my job to pick the next victim of the redirect? Hey, by the way, have you considered putting all that code that makes your sig in a file like User:Radioactive_afikomen/sig and then putting {{User:Radioactive_afikomen/sig}} in your prefs as your sig? It would save talk page acreage, is all. humanUser talk:Human 15:08, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Testing, 1, 2, 3; testing, 1, 2, 3. --Wandalise me Bohdan! RA talk stalkOver 145 edits! 15:34, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Hmm, that still pasted in the five line version. humanUser talk:Human 15:36, 21 December 2007 (EST)
I'm afraid it isn't working. And before your suggestion I was doing what I did on Wikipedia and Uncyclopedia: I had {{SUBST:nosubst|User:Radioactive afikomen/sig}} in my preferences box. It works over there, but not here. And given that your suggestion didn't work either, I'd say it's RationalWiki itself that the problem here. --Wandalise me Bohdan! RA talk stalkOver 145 edits! 15:39, 21 December 2007 (EST)
I am using {{SUBST:User:Human/sig}}, you might need to get rid of the "nosubst|" part? Hmmm, let me think. (or was that just a way to display it here?) That would actually put everything that is in the subfile on the talk page. Maybe just {{user:blah/sig}} would do it? The trick is to get the template/transclusion thing to be all that goes on the talk page. Also, maybe we don't have whatever the "nosubst" thing is installed? Oh well, thanks for trying! I'll see if I can figure it out. humanUser talk:Human 15:45, 21 December 2007 (EST)


I'm more socialist than you are. --Linus(plot evil tech) 15:19, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Wanna share your excess socialism with me so we can be more equal? humanUser talk:Human 15:21, 21 December 2007 (EST)
No, Jews just make other people share, they don't do it themselves. Oh wait, now I've given it away, doggone it. --Linus(plot evil tech) 16:39, 21 December 2007 (EST)
I thought Jews were all communist kibbutzniks? Are you one of those anti-Semitic Jews I've heard about? humanUser talk:Human 20:46, 21 December 2007 (EST)
I think you missed the joke. Or I did. --Linus(plot evil tech) 17:57, 22 December 2007 (EST)
No, no, no, that's only Israeli Jews. American Jews are soul-sucking capitalists. --Wandalise me Bohdan! RA talk stalkOver 270 edits! 18:02, 22 December 2007 (EST)

Will the real....[edit]

Which Elassint retired? The real one, or the wandal? And if the real one did, why?--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 16:32, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Elassint runs scores, if not hundreds, of socks on here. And uses several IPs. he has gotten into arguments and edit wars with himself. Who knows which of them this was? And if it was wandalism, E can fix it as one of his multiple parasites personas. humanUser talk:Human 16:33, 21 December 2007 (EST)
Oh, and if he is pretending to retire, it might be over the revert war at New World Order. humanUser talk:Human 16:35, 21 December 2007 (EST)
He has the weirdest sense of humor anyway. So who knows? I hope not, because E has been really helpful in the past. Researcher 16:37, 21 December 2007 (EST)
Dat's koo-koo!--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 16:37, 21 December 2007 (EST)
Yah, E. is weird, but strangely funny. You'll see E running around, wandalizing as three people & an IP, and making "strange" arguments about shirs pet topics, in the middle of reverting real outside wandalism. Of course, sometimes the wandalisms E. reverts a string of were almost certainly done by one of the parasites. humanUser talk:Human 16:42, 21 December 2007 (EST)


Care for a blog at RationalBlogs? <ignore>PalMD seems to be on vacation,</ignore> so I need other beta testers. --Linus(plot evil tech) 16:47, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Hmmm, thanks, but not really right now... RationalWiki is my blog, darn it! If I think of something I would rather put on a blog though, I'll let you know. The blogs could theoretically replace the "essay" space, couldn't they? humanUser talk:Human 20:44, 21 December 2007 (EST)
I don't think that's a wise direction to take RationalWiki, Human. Wikis are by their nature more accessible, and encourage more participation, than blogs. --Wandalise me Bohdan! RA talk stalkOver 160 edits! 20:50, 21 December 2007 (EST)
It's not a "direction" I am proposing, just an observation. If I had something I wanted to write and have people comment on here, I'd probably use the essay space. Leaving what purpose for an RW blog? I agree, it's too splintering - recent changes (or to a lesser extent, a watchlist) keep one up with everything on the wiki. I guess one would have to bookmark a blog, or sign up for a feed from it, or something? humanUser talk:Human 20:59, 21 December 2007 (EST)