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Recognition

		RationalWiki Friendly Award
		For your welcoming attitude, even toward those you may not agree with. Heart♥GoldCry Like a little girl 23:31, 19 July 2007 (CDT)

Huey's ass

It's been juggling work, ultimate frisbee and fighting. Quite the summer. Besides, I got the message that I wasn't welcome when y'all started to diss on that fine piece of junk in my trunk. --Huey gunna getcha 18:20, 20 July 2007 (CDT)

Souds good... far from the computer geek world! Lotsa fun! And what message didja get? OK, maybe we don't want your fine ass-pic on every article you edit. Just the ones it belongs on! human^{be in} 23:41, 20 July 2007 (CDT)

Do we have to see Huey's ass again? If that's what it takes to get him back, i guess i can deal with it.--PalMD^-Goatspeed! 23:44, 20 July 2007 (CDT)

We could just port it over from CP and put it in every goat template.... 01:19, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Don't look now, but we're still being vandalized.

Already re-set my userpage, but he got a lot of other peoples'. --Gulik 00:59, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Easy enough to fix, thanks for the warning. I'm more concerned with HG's radical-conning the site. Please see Constitution party. Created from a red link on his user page. 01:05, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Ha! Calls for a /16 block(ban?) or two. Keep^cool 01:12, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Calls for a /8 ban me thinks. To bad thats not possible :( - Icewedge 01:14, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

/0 the bastid!!!!!! Yikes, ulp. human^{be in} 01:16, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Seems that Wanda only attacked those who were awake? Keep^cool 01:27, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

"awake", or on line? I wasn't around, but cabled in. Wanda seemed to have slight agenda, and more than random insults for people. Maybe we should sic someone with checkuser on them tom'w? As if. They used an IP, how secret is that? Let's report them to Andy Assfly! He'll get 'em shut down 1-2-3-4! He hates internet terrorism! PS, I shut out the vandal for 24 hours (I think, duh, dumb sysop), keep an eye out tomorrow, ok? human^{be in} 01:31, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Point is: it was almost benign: (s)he wanted to be caught! Keep^{the faith} 13:18, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Thanks for reverting for me..... My obsessive computer time was beaten by my Harry Potter obsession SirChuckB 20:36, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

help?

(copy of note to Middleman - didn't think you were around)

"don't know if you'd like to do a bit of HG baiting (talk:Robert_Maxwell) I'm possibly getting out of my depth." Keep^{the faith} 13:18, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Baiting? No, please. I'm not here to bait anyone. Keep an eye on, sure. Try to help maintain RW, sure. But only jumping in on a case-by-case basis, so if "help" is desired, at least leave links where your concerns lie. I created left Wing Bastards to "justify with balance" that silly RWB article, by the way. human^{be in} 13:23, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

If you guys want to ruin your liberal soap box by writing "articles" that are 99% commentary, go for it. Heart♥Gold^{Cry Like a little girl} 15:39, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Human, would you pass this to HG - I can't edit his talk (32k limit) Thanks. Hi HG. Sue Garlick here (RojerB) I'm afraid you got too much for me - trying to head to head with you on my pda just wasn't viable. Btw I agree with you on the 'Essay' tag but don't quote me (same goes for 'bastard') It started out as a joke that got out of hand. I'll be back in about a month on broadband - I'll use my real name though so you should recognize me - probably 'SusieG' how's that sound. I'll lurk until then. 193.113.235.169 16:39, 21 July 2007 (CDT) ps how do you do that thing with your sig?

Good. I'm glad. Hurry back. Heart♥Gold^{Cry Like a little girl} 16:45, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Ask me to leave

And I will leave. And you'll have a nice little choir. As I said, liberals have their eyes wide shut. It is intentional. Don't care about truth. Sunshine conservation pricing is clearly not even possible given that the story was just released on 7/03. But I would expect it to occur in about 30 years short of some population decimating event. Heart♥Gold^{Cry Like a little girl} 22:05, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

I'm not asking you to leave - yet. Don't mind the choir. We sing well together, not that you would like our harmonies. Thanks for the offer to throw yourself on your sword. No, I'm mostly thinking, have you experienced enough to launch your own wiki (the one you mention on your user page) yet? I am also, seriously, still composing my advice, etc., relative to that, so at least until then, well, dang, you're here, eh? (I loves my Canadian!) Sunshine pricing, well, it's a great parody, let's say, of water conservation (by the way, toilets do spoil water - "potable water") but will it happen? Hey, maybe, in the great state experiment that is Oregon or Washington. Will it fly in the union? Probably not. Many states offer themselves as incubators of ideas, and some are so large that their standards get "forced" on the rest of the nation (like CA). That, I think, is one of the cool things about our republic. But, your table of sunshine pricing.... well, it's not based on anything, is it? If it was, it would be interesting! I could see a requirement coming up of "for every sq. yd. for human consumption, one must be set aside for native species" or some such. Ironically, I welcome milkweed to my garden (and plant seeds), to support the beleaguered Monarch Butterfly. I guess I am voluntarily participating? Oh, by the way, I also own a nine acre "swamp". It does not bother me that it is federally protected, at all. I only wish I could do things to make it a more effective wetland. Anyway, I ramble in my liberal way. human^{be in} 22:30, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

I've decided against doing a Christian wiki encyclopedia. People who want to figure out the truth, those that don't want to walk through life with their eyes wide shut.

The conservation pricing is based on a real world water conservation pricing scheme, in which liberals in my state try to empathize with real problems in other parts of the country and world. Meanwhile, if I dig a well on my own property, I am allowed to pump 10,000 gallons per day without any fee or permit, and the water would taste great and not require any treatment whatsoever (unless you get cavities in your stomach and believe fluoridating water will help). We have no water shortage, but we do have water conservation pricing. (We do also have some short term problems, e.g., peak demand problems, that conservation pricing does not address. Temporary watering restrictions address peak demand issues, e.g., even/odd watering--at least until we update the municipal water pump). The sunshine example is ludicrous on its face. Water conservation pricing is not (because many parts of the country and world do have such problems). Heart♥Gold^{Cry Like a little girl} 22:50, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

I, as most (all) of my neighbors do, have a private well. 10,000 gallons a day? I couldn't afford the electricity! Although, a company is trying to drill some wells and pump a million gallons a day, to ship to Europe and sell as, I don't know what? "New England Spring Water"? Most towns around here enact watering bans, since the lakes and rivers we use for their water systems run low in the summer. If you're so mad at Oregon/Washington (liberal strongholds!), why not move to Montana? human^{be in} 22:56, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Uh-oh.... *(diff) (hist) . . User talk:Human‎; 03:56 . . (+666) . . Human (Talk | contribs) (→Ask me to leave - ) Resident vandal

I think it's clear what this means. You cannot fathom how disappointed I am to find out that I am not the Anti-Christ. Oh well. GdlessLiberal 23:04, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Uh oh. Damned! It had to happen sooner or later. By the way, did you guys catch the news story that the "number of the beast" is not "666", it was mistranslated? This user knows that 1+1=10. human^{be in} 23:04, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

This is the point where Karajou bans you for attacking the Bible. GdlessLiberal 23:12, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Dang, and I was so enjoying wandalizing this wiki! human^{be in} 23:17, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Could you get down off of the cross, Heart? We need the wood to build the world's tiniest violin. --Gulik 00:40, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

That was our obligatory Tom Waits reference. Thank you! human^{be in} 00:42, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

Heart of Gold's de-sysopping

While Heart's been letting his political agenda get the better of his sanity lately, I haven't seen him abusing the sysop powers. The English language, facts, history, and basic logic, yes.... but not the sysop powers. (Mind you, I might just not have noticed, not caring much about RW politics.) (And this will probably lead to another round of "Help, help, I'm being oppressed!", and nobody wants that...) --Gulik 02:13, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

I agree with Gulik. ɧєɭıסş^{-get sunburn!} 03:20, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

So do I. However, HG has also "left" RW. I also discovered, after doing the deed which I realized might be wrong and get undone soon, that he had blocked himself indefinitely. So I created a conundrum - by desysopping him, I made it so he can't unblock himself. So I propose this, for now: I'll unblock him, since we don't do infinite anyway, and he might "need" access to the site. He has requested in a reply to a pmail I sent him to be "retired", so I'll archive his talk page and put "retired" templates on his talk and user pages. I'll probably leave his John 3:16 thing on below the retired tag. If he returns I see no reason why he should not be resysopped, since, as Gulik pointed out, he never abused any of the extra buttons. I welcome any further commentary on this, including any chastisements due me. human^{be in} 13:11, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

As I am just now starting to emerge from a self induced depressive episode and re-engaging reality, I must say that I don't have the full story on what happened. I am inclined to agree that unblocking HG is a must, retirement tags can be placed if they were requested. From there I saw we just wait and see what happens, if HG really wants to return he can, but the point of being a sysop is a willingness to engage the site at a level beyond just being a "user" this is the not so fun level of site "janitor" much like what I tried, and am trying, to do with RationalWiki:Project Whitewash. Any sysop demotions post the transition from RW1.0-2.0 should be for people that want the extra buttons in order to improve the site, not just because. Nothing HG is doing he can't do without it, if he wants to be sysop, and I think the same goes for anyone else from now on, it should be because they are willing to take up the jobs most of us don't like doing. tmtoulouse ^annoy 13:23, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

Unblocked HG and a bizarre IP block he did. Archived his talk; added "retired" template to both his pages. human^{be in} 13:42, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

Without commenting one way or the other on the above: Did HG actually do any sysop activity?--Bob_M (talk) 16:40, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

To bring my opinion and ideological demons into the open, I think that despite our love of free speech as a concept, HG has been destroying the concept of this site with his paranoid rants and the need to constantly respond to him. There are many outlets for him, but unless we have a few dozen more active editors to get actual work done, he really should "retire" from here.--PalMD^-Goatspeed! 17:02, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

I realize I haven't been around the last few days--in part a self-imposed break and in part the realities of real life--but I do feel the need to comment. I certainly agree that HG should be allowed back if he wants, but I'm glad, at least for now, he's gone. He was, in many ways, mocking the site and its goals explicitly and implicitly. Part of my imposed break was the need NOT to respond to him. (I learned long ago, if you don't want to be in an edit war, you should not engage in one...) In many ways he was trolling in the worst way--actively trying to provoke--(although some would argue with that definition). I understand the point that he didn't abuse his sysop powers, and I respect that. But to me, provoking others just to get a rise out of someone is enough to de-sysop, although it does have to be defined well, and documented--although it's hard, because it imposes assumptions about people's intentions on them.

In reality our "ideology" is a bit ambiguous--we aren't explicitly "liberal" in our goals--even being against fundamentalism isn't really a liberal ideology--but I think he was distracting our small but dedicated bunch away from anything productive, which is bad. We don't have enough contributors to deal with that. He was extremist in many ways (defining a moderate view as extreme is my defintion of extremist) and he was harming the site. I have no problem with someone defending a point-of-view that is less popular on the site if the person is willing to provide a good argument for that point-of-view, but that's not really what he was doing. (It's silly to assume that we will all agree!) ŠтΈṜȳŁЁ^and...? 09:00, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

Symbolism

Is the RW logo (brace.brace.brain.brace. brace) copyright - could I when I get properly on line nick it for a Tee shirt(or 2)? Keep^{the faith} 17:17, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

You can find a hi-rez version at Image:RW Logo vector.svg (about 500k). As Linus indicates, it's GFDL, so feel free to play with it. I know I have made some variations on the smaller version for my own amusement. I'd love to see a "Hot. Science. RationalWiki." T-shirt... I guess I could make one, I've got iron-on transfer paper... human^{be in} 17:22, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

Shit! Can't download - I'll have to go to the local cybercaff (library actually) in the morning 23:45 here( & get photoshoppin.Some of that iron on stuff is good. I did a variety of (made up) single malt ones about 5 years ago & they've lasted loads o'washes. [I was in Inverness for 2 years] The main trouble's background colour.Keep^{the faith} 17:46, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

Yes, I've done a few, with varying results. White is very difficult, as I recall. My best work was a hand-drawn "Git 'er done" (catch phrase courtesy of American "redneck" comic Larry the Cable Guy) in multpile colors that I forgot to mirror-image. Which sort of made it even better! Luckily, t-shirts are cheap, and usable even if the iron-on comes out badly. human^{be in} 18:03, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

Recent changes:

see mine to User_talk:Olliegrind Keep^{the faith} 14:11, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

Haha, yes, I did, and commented. We are now discussing this in 3 different places! Did you comment there because you couldn't edit the first place it came up due to >32k? We need to be more careful about that 32k thing - or get you some broadband & a bigger screen! I heard a bit about the floods on the radio, but not much. Is there a good article on line about them I can read? human^{be in} 14:19, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

Yup! It's that 32k limit; don't bother about it. Although, thinking about it, if anyone's paying per byte or monthly (weekly?) download limit then I suppose - Naar! Not enough.

Can't beat BBC - they're having it real bad down Gloucester way, worse than we did up here (North Notts). I google mapped for a rote to Tewkesbury & it said there wasn't one.

By the way, what's the beer like over there? In the 60s I worked in & around a US base in S. Germany and the troops just couldn't cope with the strength of the local beer. I could drink them under the table (then I was a 5 ft 3" skinny waif [I still am 5'3" but no longer skinny]). Is there a conservative attitude to alcohol? There must be a RW one - the sun's over the yardarm so I'll pour myself a wee dram of Ardbeg (nectar). Keep^{the faith} 14:46, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

American beer has made great strides in the last 20 years. There are so many good US beers now, and not all of them or pishwasser. MMMMM...beeer.162.82.215.199 15:04, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

Mr Simpson, I presume? Keep^{the faith} 15:16, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, 20 years ago all the USA had were "lagers", I think. Light tasting, light on alcohol, had to be drunk cold. That, and "michelob". Beer lovers drank heineken when they could get it, or made their own. Around 20 years ago came the microbrewery explosion, and a corresponding range of variety. The main British beers are sold everywhere (well, Bass and Guiness, anyway). Mircobreweries are "everywhere", from two pot operations serving their own bar/restaurant and local area to better known operation. So it's not as bad as it used to be. human^{be in} 16:01, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

Bass? We were talking about beer! Keep^{the faith} 07:52, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Hey, there's no need to be rude :P I like it. The tough part is getting it to 60 dF to make it taste best. I don't run with the crowd that thinks the stronger and nastier beer tastes, the better it must be (see: coffee snob). But thre is still an amazing range of beers available in the States these days. human^{be in} 12:48, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Pax! If I'm drinking beer it's Guinness but I usually imbibe single malts or speciality gins. Btw do you know how to do that thing with your sig. Like HG (whom I asked) & one or two others, where a bit of it changes cyclically? Keep^{the faith} 14:05, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

... And if so can you explain it to me? Keep^{the faith} 14:05, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Mmmm, single malt. I made a userbox for that ;) As far as my sig, it doesn't change, although tmtoulouse's does. To make it change, you use the same code as we use at [[rationalWiki:Slogan]] for part of the sig. By the way, as your sig gets "complicated", it makes sense to save it in a subfile of your userpage, and put a link to that in your user prefs. In fact, some people have made it a template completely, so it never turns up as three pages of wiki markup in the source of pages. If you examine tmtoulouse's recent sigs, you'll see what I mean. human^{be in} 14:50, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

How to sue cp

http://www.conservapedia.com/DMCA_Agent -tells you how they should be told they're stealing. Is this right? Keep^{the faith} 18:41, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Essentially, yes. But a DMCA (copyright violation) complaint has to be made by the owner of the copyright in question. Know anyone they are ripping off who'd care? human^{be in} 18:51, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

When we went thru the first Night of Blunt Knives and got all the horrible threats from TK et al, I thought about suing them...interestingly, Andy immediately disavowed them and said he had nothing to do with it. Of course, Andy later went along with the FBI thing...idiot.162.82.215.199 18:57, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Wanted Pages

Human, do you think that the red article list could be pulled out by someone, sorted alpha and replaced as its own page somewhere? It would then be easier for anyone contemplating a new article to check for anything similar already wanted. Or even just alpha sorted where it stands instead of frequency sorted? Keep^happy 14:24, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

I've got an alpha-sorted list of everything that has more than one link to it (way too many with just one-link to do as part of the list). you can view it here Thunderkatz^Ho! 14:37, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

Thanks Thunder Keep^happy 14:43, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

Cool. But anyway, doesn't it make more sense to try to work on red links with more refs to them? I know we have many that are not so much "wanted articles" as links that should be removed. human^{be in} 16:54, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

S'il vous plait

Could someone check wordpress and see if their blogs are working? I can't get any of them (most importantly, mine) to render properly, and i don't know if it's something to do with our computers or with them. Thanks.--PalMD^-Goatspeed! 15:00, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

This seems to be ok to me, without exploring it. human^{be in} 17:08, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

your alteration of my status

Why don't you just undo it. And then have a mob vote. Heart♥Gold^{Cry Like a little girl} 16:05, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

Answering on tmt's page. human^{be in} 16:50, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

Did I miss your answer, or are you still working it out. Also, what is up with Stevo? Made sysop on the 5th, disappeared after the 6th. Heart♥Gold^{Cry Like a little girl} 17:11, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

I put it right after your question. I don't know where Stevo went, he was cruising around doing a lot here, then vanished. Permabanned himself, in fact, IIRC. I pmailed him to ask what's up, got no answer. Should probably be discussed and de-sysoped if we don't hear from him. Might just be summer vacation, but we don't know. It is good form for sysops to put notes on their pages when away for extended periods, so people know not to ask them for help. Like Tmt did. He's in Utah for a few days. human^{be in} 17:14, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

Okay, so discussion is good *before* desysoping Stevo, but wasn't necessary in my case? Heart♥Gold^{Cry Like a little girl} 17:21, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

Nope. It was discussed on my talk page after the fact, although I started that day fully expecting to see a shitstorm and to have to undo whatever damage I did. You're the first person to argue with it, since you returned after retiring. If I change my mind I'll reverse the step, but I'm not the only one with the power to do it. human^{be in} 17:26, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

It looks like some argued. But I guess I'll just go wait for somebody else with as much initiative as you (except in reverse) to revert your desysopship. Heart♥Gold^{Cry Like a little girl} 17:29, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

While I hate to be having this discussion in more than one place (here and tmt's talk, at least), I just checked and there are only six of us who can change user powerz - airdish, Colin, me, Jtl, Linus, and Tmtoulouse. None of whom I have seen around in the last day or two, so i guess I'm it. I'll go revise the promotion now; you never know, we might need you to help if the wandals crash the gates this weekend! Thanks, human^{be in} 17:34, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

Thank you sir. Also, just to clarify, I am not asking you to change your opinion of me. Heart♥Gold^{Cry Like a little girl} 17:36, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

quick help please

Does this render correctly on your browser? - Icewedge 16:07, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

It seems to, yes. Mozilla on Win XP. human^{be in} 16:50, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

Although, shouldn't templates like that be tall and narrow and over to the right to let the article have room to start? human^{be in} 16:51, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

This goes at the bottom. - Icewedge 16:58, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

Ah, ok, I see. Oh, and there is a problem. The tabs at the top are a bit orphaned, and the left side menus are all below the article content. Try again? human^{be in} 17:05, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

Nice job Bohdan. Kewl.... Pwned :) human^{be in} 22:29, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

?

Whats with the crazy long block? Bohdan2

He was bored. I was too, so I unblocked Bohdan. But I blocked Bohdan2 for block evasion (3 seconds). I would have reblocked Bohad if I could prove Bohdan2 was Bohdan. Heart♥Gold^{Cry Like a little girl} 01:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

Thanks HG! Resident vandal

Yeah, thanks! Bohdan2

Eh, I was trying to get more digits of pi, in seconds, and probably went one decimal place too far - wasn't it about 8 hours? Sorry for any inconvenience it may have caused. human^{be in} 12:54, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

Up & running

My word! When you start you don't need any wake up time! Keep^awake 13:14, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

Uh, what did I do? human^{be in} 13:44, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

B****N

Sorry about B****N, H. But he went OTT.

(I include you in the 'people I've come to respect [& HG strangely]) Keep^{off the grass} 21:54, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

Hippies...

I hope you didn't take offense...PFoster 10:05, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

Oh no, not at all! I lulzed at the stupid parts of the article, and noticed that some of it seemed rather... familiar. You think any real CPer would mention Kesey and the Electric Kool Aid Acid Test? But, thanks for your concern :) human^{be in} 12:36, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

Lookie

[[Conservapedia:Sysop Talk|Lol]]. ɧєɭıסş^{-get sunburn!} 12:56, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

Hehe, I see it seems to be freshly updated... human^{be in} 13:09, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

Hey! Look Here! Read This!

Hey, admin man, how would I, as a wikinoob, go about making a shiny shiny signature?--Offeep 20:31, 1 August 2007 (CDT) <--not shiny

Hey, Offeeppy, I wish I could give you a great tutorial all in one. But I'll try to get you started. One way is to edit your "preferences" - under "signature", I think you can click a box that says "custom", or some such, and then enter the wikicode for what you want your sig to be (try to practice it somewhere harmless) in the signature box. What most people do is make a thing they like for their username, and a ^superscript link to their talk page. Some people go a lot further. If you see a sig you like, look at the source and see how they did it, and, of course, have fun, ask people what they think, ask people how they made theirs, show it off after your witty and brilliant comments on talk pages, and feel free to fine tune it as you get used to wiki markup thingies. human^{be in} 00:21, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

I am confused

I don't know what it is about this site, but I simply cannot stay away. I keep trying to follow-up on my wiki leave promise, but I just keep coming back. Perhaps I have gone crazy. I better have a session with tmtoulouse. I guess I like it here because there is more humor than there is at CP. But of course CP is an encyclopedia. And I don't typicaly vandalize userpages just talk ones. But, I do support the main page breaking news item. What a terrible tradgedy. Resident vandal 00:34, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

Haha, well, you can't live on conservative red meat alone, right? We may run a little leftwards here, but our jokes are (hopefully) ecumenical. I know our goat is. Once cooked, it doesn't care who eats it! And, yes, CP offers other outlets - if you're ever bored, check my contribs there. I was just puttering around having fun writing encyclopedia articles. (hint, search for "building trades", look around "classical music"). As far as the breaking news thing, chime in at the talk page. Yes, it was a terrible tragedy. So were the Iraqis the USA murdered today. So are so many things every day. My point is not that "we don't care", it's just that we aren't a news site, and also that HG did what he did with no "chat" with anyone else. You'll note that before an edit war erupted, I went to talk to discuss. I expressed my opinion, and maybe, defended it. It took us many days to decide to add our "wisdom of the sages" thing and hwo to do it. Many days of discussion by many people. If I started adding every tragedy that breaks my heart to the main page, well, there'd be nothing but "what bugs Human" there. That is partly what my user page is for. Not the front page. I note that, also, HG deleted out "welcome" message to add his personal copy/paste from CP's front page to our site, while at CP, there are balloons, flowers and trumpets above the "prayers" celebrating 15k entries. What HG did was not heartfelt, it was an angry defacement that he thought "no one could argue with". You will note, that none of his edits were even commented, yet he was essentially editing the "home page" of the whole web site. OK, I'm running on and on. Thanks for your whimsical, and also thoughtful, visit to my little chat box... human^{be in} 00:47, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

Gee, you really did run on and on. Thats probably the longest comment I have ever seen! ecumenical? Yes, if I only knew what that meant. And I hate goats. Hey, what are my true colors that you spoke of earlier? I'm thinking grey. Resident vandal 00:55, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

Oh, sorry, ecumenical basically means "non-denominational" - like, if you were in a strange town, travelling, you might prefer an ecumenical Christian service to a denominational one, not knowing what denominations are there. The ecumenical (Christian) would stick to the things "all" might agree on. Or, in my example, hopefully find funny. Your true colors are that you are a decent enough person not to allow your name to be used by someone else in an inappropriate way. The edit I linked to on your talk page was what I was referring to. You also prefer to let battles end, or even not to consider them battles. You may remember once, in another land, that you and I traded comments for an evening, namecalling and spite may have arisen, but you were an easy person with whom to find common ground and make peace. That is probably what I like most about you. OK, that and your 4ws0m3 pwn4ge. Grey? Only because you're not sure why you are here, even now. That leaves you, perhaps, not sure what "colors" (in the flag sense) to fly - but there is no reason to raise a flag and fight for it tooth and nail - perhaps you'd be a good mediator? A far better role than combatant, in my general opinion. I'm sorry if my english runs idiomatic and windy, it's my style, but I know it's hard to follow even for native speakers, sometimes. As a mediator, a conciliator, you might still provide this site something it sorely needs from time to time. Along with a little wandalism, of course. human^{be in} 02:18, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

HA! Thats strange you bring that up. Would you believe that I was actually going to post links to taht here ealier today? And that I went back and looked at it on your old, now deleted, talk page? No joke! I'm serious! If I remember correctly it was all about my misplaced attemts at humor, which still get me in trouble from time to time at CP. Resident vandal 02:29, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

We chatted, of an evening, and shared angries. TK tried to interrupt, but we were "above" his level (ie, smart, trying to "communicate"). Yes, we angered, I drunked, you innocented, but over the hours we made amends, and guess what? (I hope) earned each other's respect! That is why I like you, when you come here and play your antic games, and seek your proper role, and wonder why you're here. Because I know that you are a "real" human being there, behind it all. PS, besides maybe Hoji, you are the only person on CP with a sense of humor!!! I love your little interjections in the middle of insane debates! human^{be in} 23:47, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

I might disagree with you on.... much, but hey, I respect you and think we both enjoy and know the value of humor. We might be the only Liberal atheist and Christian conservative to get along! I love making comments in debates, especially when I am not involved, and have no real knowledge of what is happening! I think sometimes everyone gets a little carried away, and the debates get a little too heated. We could all benefit from a little humor. Bohdan 00:00, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

Very well said, my friend. Very well said. We can all learn a little from that, if we take time to listen, that is. Peace... one thing we might both agree on? human^{be in} 00:04, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

New Cat

I think it might snow some...

Nice pussy.--Bob_M (talk) 13:47, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

Thanks :) human^{be in} 13:52, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

How long ago did you stop selling? ^{the previous unsigned ad hominem, disgusting attack was turded out by user:Santa' ass!}

How long is the statute of limitatations on fresh baking soda? Or is that an uncharted island? human^{be in} 00:34, 3 August 2007 (CDT)

Hey now that wasn't me I just fixed the picture! tmtoulouse ^annoy 00:38, 3 August 2007 (CDT)

At least now I don't feel like Santa ignored me for not believing in him! human^{be in} 00:41, 3 August 2007 (CDT)

Favour

Sorry, Human, you've been corrupted - there's a "u" in favour Keep^{gerbils(in a cage)!} 11:46, 3 August 2007 (CDT)

Linus talk = 39kb Keep^{gerbils(in a cage)!}

So, you eethre wont me to go ax him to arkiffe, or zhanj the speling of fafor to favoure? Rite, I'll do bofe! Tanks! human^{be in} 11:50, 3 August 2007 (CDT)

Wow, I saw what tmtoulouse said, shocking. I recommend a long, long block. Clustering illusionist

Udderly, udderly shocking. I recommend a nuzzle of the teat nearest you! And, what does what Timmy Tooloose says have to due with mee? I'd watch out, seriously, for wedgies in the next few hours, no matter how much you trust your "friends" and roommates. human^{be in} 00:20, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

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No Follow Links?

shot?!

What is a 'no follow' link? It's new to me but reading between the lines it seems to be one that won't be picked up by google bots. If this is so would it be an idea to make links to cp, b4b & any other site of ridicule into such links?

I might be going up a totally loopy road here but on the offchance I'm not then every time we refer to a mad site, we're increasing its hit rate, or not??

The reason I ask is I've been reading conswervapædia's moans about wp, and they might be right for once.

Keep ^{your distance, punk!} 17:58, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

No follow links are exactly that, a way to tell bot engines not to follow them and not to count them as a "vote" for the site. Wikipedia implemented it into media wiki to fight spam. Its actually a massively controversial move. However, intrawiki links should not be no-follow. So if you do [http://conservapedia.com ] it will be no follow but [[cp:conservapedia]] will not be no-follow. tmtoulouse ^annoy 18:21, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

Why are you impersonating me? human^{be in} 20:26, 4 August 2007 (CDT)^{— Unsigned, by: Bohdan / talk / contribs}

Why are you impersonating me? Hmmm? Gotta problem there? human^{be in} 20:29, 4 August 2007 (CDT)^{— Unsigned, by: Bohdan / talk / contribs}

I am the real human. human^{be in} 20:30, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

Absolutely! Yes, I am! human^{be in} 20:31, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

The only option is to shoot them both. tmtoulouse ^annoy 20:32, 4 August 2007 (CDT)^{— Unsigned, by: Human / talk / contribs}

Then take me out. tmtoulouse ^annoy 20:32, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

Just be sure to use mercury-free bullets, no sense in poisoning them as well. CЯacke® 20:36, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

I think blocking Bohdan was a little harsh. Block tmtoulouse instead. CЯacke® 20:36, 4 August 2007 (CDT) Last one, I promise!

My block log keeps growing and growing. Bohdan

Well, everybody has a hobby, eh? And ours coincide! human^{be in} 23:40, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

Did you just steal TK's 'eh"? Bohdan

No, that was Canadian. Eh?

• This is that mothafuckas asterisk disease example! human^{be in} 23:43, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

Impersonation?

Cocaine!

Cracker uses baking soda to get rid of his (or maybe palmd's) odors!

Umpersonation

¡aloC acoC

Look, a funny shaped glass!

Comment

I like this quote:

“”If you wish to glimpse inside a human soul and get to know a man, don't bother analyzing his ways of being silent, of talking, of weeping, of seeing how much he is moved by noble ideas; you will get better results if you just watch him laugh. If he laughs well, he's a good man." --Feodor Dostoyevsky

Too bad he died in extreme debt and, I am told, unhappiness! Bohdan 00:33, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

Didn't too many wonderful artists? Nice quote, indeed. Thank you for gracing my talk page with it. human^{be in} 00:51, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

Me and AutoFire have started the resident vandals club. We would like our own special Vandal namespace to plot our pwnage. Can we have this? Bohdan 00:57, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

I'm sure you can, but how to make it, eh, I'm only a Bureaucrat, ok? (I don't know what most of these buttons do) Ask Linus, maybe? Oh, and you can always just plot in pmail, right? human^{be in} 00:59, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

You do not understand. If we don't get our namespace, we will pwn your user and talk page. Bohdan

I am so sorry, you do not understand. If it is on the server (ie, namespace), us powerzful people can see it anyway, Also, what do I care about my talk and user space? Trample at will, ye wandalizerz!!!! human^{be in} 01:03, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

You powerful? Don't you remember when you blocked me and I became the most powerful user here? PalMD even bowed down to me. Bohdan

Oh yes, I iz teh suckorz, I forgot. I bow down before your Mightiez Powerz! human^{be in} 01:07, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

What on earth is happening to your typing? Bohdan

Maybe it's linked to his (now pwned) user page? --_transResident Transfan^form! 01:10, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

It'z zo eazy to konfuze Messr. Bow-down with inglisxz! human^{be in} 01:12, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

Shameless advertising

Wooohooo! I just made my first major contribution to this site—The Joys of Fascism! (I'm so shameless, I know ^_^) -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 03:22, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

Nice work... I got lulzed by it... human^{be in} 11:40, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

Hey what brilliant ideas are there for....uhm...drawing attention to articles here on CP? Their spam filter is blocking attempts to post a URL there, even linked through various short url sites like tinyurl.com etc. Doggedpersistance 16:10, 6 August 2007 (CDT)

Whatever you do, they'll crack down on it quickly, links to RW in any form are, uh, well, considered a form of obscenity at CP. Hence, "Lemon Party... Tub Girl... RationalWiki!". Anyway, ages ago they string blocked rationalwiki itself, and shortly after, sites like tinyurl. Since a few RWers were using it as you would like to. I don't know how long a redirected link would last (CP to neutral site, neutral to RW), but not long, I suspect. So what do you do? You can pmail individuals with links, of course. You can burn through sockpuppets with short-lived "versions" of your link (ie, trashionalwiki/xyz, or with spaces intruding in the url) which will require people to cut and paste. Perhaps if insertes carefully in inconspicuous places they might last a while. But, basically, the existence of RW is one of the many "truths" about the world that CP shields its feeble-minded adherents from encountering. human^{be in} 17:33, 6 August 2007 (CDT)

By the way, I forgot to mention this way: Google CP & blogs. Go to ones that seemed related to your article and add a comment (not just spamming your link) with your link. Try to keep this process cogent, ie, avoid spamming the blogs. But, there's lots of threads out there, and none of them will reject the RW url. HTH a bit more. human^{be in} 14:01, 7 August 2007 (CDT)

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DEA RAID!!!!

DEA RAID!!!!!!!!!!!

EVERYONE DOWN!!!!!!

^{— Unsigned, by: Pinto's5150 / talk / contribs}

The Department of Environmental Approbation? I'm not worried, it's HoG they're after - he's a four-flusher! human^{be in} 23:52, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

Pretty sure it's Drug Enforcement Agency...._Eye See ^You 00:00, 6 August 2007 (CDT)

Pretty sure it isn't. This is the well-known home of the black market high-flush toilet cabal. human^{be in} 17:35, 6 August 2007 (CDT)

Red Links

There are a number of red links of the form:"Talk:Main Page/Archive n" (where n=1 - 9). Can anything be done? Keep ^{me in the loop} 04:41, 6 August 2007 (CDT)

Hmmm. Well, first, the format should be "Talk:Main Page/Archiven", with n=1, 2, or 3. I see the ones to 6 and 7, the only place I "found" 6 was in a weird meta section in the header of archive1. Couldn't find "7" where the "what links here" said it should be. I think they may just be weird flukes of some sort. Feel free to ask Linus, he may know more. They don't look like "real" links to me. human^{be in} 11:48, 6 August 2007 (CDT)

ACD

OK. I just moved article "None" to ACD - you now delete the original. Is that it? --Bob_M (talk) 08:44, 7 August 2007 (CDT)

Any links to the old version are fixed? In which case, yes, exactly. I'll check and do so. Thanks!human^{be in} 13:57, 7 August 2007 (CDT)

Done. human^{be in} 13:58, 7 August 2007 (CDT)