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okay

I fx'd the typos.

User:Mectrixctic 03:31, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I can live with that, thanks. ħuman 03:38, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Conspiracy theory talk page

Hi, you left something on the conspiracy theory talk page from about two years ago, so I assumed you weren't watching that page anymore; I decided to put my reply on here:

The paragraph in question is talking about how conspiracy theories explain away their lack of evidence with "a tidy explanation" (one that fits into their conspiracy). Like, "I can't prove I built an over-unity machine because the Government stole the evidence." I think it made sense, but it gave way too many examples to be coherent. Stilldeciding (talk) 18:58, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

e-mails

Hopefully your getting my e-mails, but want to emphasize the importance of getting the transfer contract done before Tuesday. If you could please get back to me on whether the digital signatures work and feed back on the draft contract. tmtoulouse 19:10, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Now that this Wiki is officially yours....

I plan to break it over and over again by sending Trent numerous truckloads of hot pockets and other items for which he needs appliances, and there is nothing you can do to stop me. Mwahahahahaha!!!! The Goonie 1 ^{What's this button do? Uh oh....} 22:08, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh, snap! The 1800 watt solution! ħuman 01:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit comment

Re this edit comment. I hesitate to suggest that gerard has done very little in the way of ruining this website - much worse has been done I think. Errant behaviour has been the way for some time and I think you yourself have been guilty of descions much similar in the past. You consideration on this matter are appreciated and you can meet me in Epping wearing the brown derby and white rose any time you wish... Ace^X-102 09:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Holy fuck!

People are actually supporting that joke "senior administrators" user group that I came up with last fall. You remember that one, right? Where I said we should make a group without any rights (like our "vandals" user group) and call it "senior administrators" and make TK the only one. Where was this support when Nx and Ace were busy shooting down my idea? Punky ^{Your mental puke relief} 16:38, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, I for one wasn't even here. ~SuperHamster Talk 16:40, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Do either of you have any idea why Human hasn't edited in 4 days? --Centimeter_INCHES 16:56, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

I do. He told me why on Skype, but I am not sure if he wants the Wiki to know. The Spikey Punk ^{I'm punking my punk!} 17:03, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Is it because we are Raping Our Community Values and Turning into a Fascist Institution? EddyP (talk) 17:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Is he ever coming back?--Centimeter_INCHES 17:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Again, I don't know if Human wants RW do know why he's gone, and until I do, I am mum about what I know. But, in reply to Centimeter, I have no doubt he'll return eventually. The Goonie 1 ^{What's this button do? Uh oh....} 17:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

): And I was ready to be snarky. Oh well. EddyP (talk) 17:15, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Ditto, I was going to say something about him counter-stalking Ken, but now. Ah, he'll be back. He just can't get by without a daily dose of my illuminating conversation and devastating wit. --PsyGremlin話しなさい 17:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Is this about his/her sex-change surgery? C®ackeЯ

I can neither confirm nor deny that it is about their sex change. Punky ^{Your mental puke relief} 17:22, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Well fuckin' A. I thought it seemed easier to move about without Human's massive ego taking up space. (That's ego in the Freudian sense, not the arrogant asshole sense. Though he's that, too.) Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 19:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Radioactive Afikomen just commented on someone else's massive ego. 19:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

The third "a" in "Radioactive afikomen" is not supposed to be capitalized. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 19:18, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I incorrectly figured it was a proper name rather than a simple reference to the dessert matzoh. This is all very meaningful. 19:29, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

The layers of meaning in my names would astound you. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 19:35, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

I suspect you're the only one who cares. 19:47, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

There aren't any "layers" in my name, Nutty. Jesus, I point out one truth and suddenly you can't take a joke? Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 19:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Keep it down, people. MC can hear you!Centimeter_INCHES 20:23, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

So when did you become a fan of Lumenos?

I'm still curious as to when you decided his words weren't a complete waste of space - to such an extent you acted on it previously ("Lumenous wasting everyone's time is here"). What changed your mind? - David Gerard (talk) 11:27, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Fuck off, troll. 86.40.200.60 (talk) 11:58, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Agree with the BoN known as MC here. DG, I used to think you made good contributions and were a valuable member of this site. As of late, I'm disgusted by your casual usurping of the rules of this site in the name of "MC!!!!" Fuck, the only reason you aren't called out for being a prick is because you pull the MC card. Well, people here may tolerate that kind of bullshit, but I assure you that I am sick of you casually ignoring the users of this site and the rules of this site when they bring those concerns to your talkpage. I'm sick of the bullshit, and if the RW community wants to continue to ignore it, then fine. But, if that's the case, I don't want to be a part of the RW community anymore. In law, they have the Clean Hands Doctrine. On RW, we have the "they said MC, so we ignore their bullshit" doctrine. AnarchoGoon ^{Swatting Assflys is how I earn my living} 04:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Dave, eir is more useful than you are. Eir provided at least three really good ideas I want to promote in the early days of the Foundation. Whereas, 1/3 of your edits are lame, in my observation. I find Lumenos much more interesting than you. ħuman 06:15, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Well well well.....

Welcome back, old timer. I knew you wouldn't stay away for long. The Goonie 1 ^{What's this button do? Uh oh....} 05:03, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Eh, you kids, GET OFFA MY LAWN! Hehe... ħuman 05:18, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Old people should be harvested for Soylent Green. Ace^X-102 05:22, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

I was. They rejected my prostate for being "too exercised for food". ħuman 05:27, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

"Do you ever talk to other people about this stuff? ever?"

Given your famed reversion sprees of whoever you last argued with - this is a first attempt at "irony", right? - David Gerard (talk) 10:36, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Fuck off, asshole. ħuman 10:39, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello?

Now what's wrong with that? --PsyGremlinPraat! 09:49, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Hmmmm, was it the HoNY thing at CP:TK? I might have thought it seemed a bit stalkerish? All I did was roll it back, right? (I think I meant "undo" though, so I may have removed more than I meant to...). ħuman 22:29, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Pottery

There once was a ho from wasilla
Whose fan base was pure vanilla
She winked like a siren
But talked like a tyrant
And now she drinks TEA in Manila

Copyright "me". ħuman 03:08, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

There once was a man with emotion
Who said "darling, please rub on this lotion"
He put her in a pit
And starved her down a bit
Now isn't that a sign of devotion?

Ditto. ħuman 01:49, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Audio woo

Please cast an acerbic eye over Audio woo#Professional_sound - David Gerard (talk) 14:04, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Hmmmm, not bad, but there are a few things I'd like to address - for instance, most recording and mixing has been 24 bit for quite some time now (ie, 2nd generation ADAT was 24 bit). Also, the preference for tube mic preamps. And I think part of the "tube sound" for guitar (etc.) amps is based more on odd-order harmonics - although of course when pushing things in squareish wave territory (and speaker breakup) there are going to be even-order ones as well.

Some high end audio does use balanced low level cabling, but it's rarified territory due to creating a new "standard" that has to be used on every component. Preamp to power amp would be the most common place to do this.

Also, studio monitors are not necessarily very good sounding speakers (many are, of course). There was some Yamaha thing that was positively awful that many people mixed on, partly, I think, because if you could get your mix to sound good on them, it would sound good on anything. But anyway...

The main gist is, of course, that professional sound engineers ignore virtually every bit of audio woo promoted by charlatans and worshiped by sufferers of nervosa audiophilia, since it is wasteful to spend the customers' money on hardware that does nothing.

PS, one thing I'm proud of is that my (16 track, 16 bit ADAT) little home studio suffers from no hum or other artifacts of engineering fail. ħuman 20:52, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

For 16-bit I was thinking of home recording, not studio, silly of me. Tube preamps for effect, yes. We're both wrong, asymmetric clipping leads to even and odd harmonics. Yes, any studio keeps shit speakers around to test mixes on what they'll play on. Balanced cables used to be a lot more common, then. You can tell I've hardly kept up with this stuff since the nineties. The main gist is half of what my point was, just how artificial the sound going in is even in classical was the other half - David Gerard (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

It's not just the shit speakers ("truth boxes"), the Yamaha NS10 (?) was a classic awful-sounding monitor. Part of what comes into play is consistency - if every studio has the same monitors, they don't have to be "very" good. What it allows is for engineers to get used to how they sound and how to work with them, and have that be "portable" from studio to studio. Which is not to say that a studio won't also usually have some really high quality equipment for playback - especially to the artist - as well. And tube mic preamps aren't used to make distortion, they are used because they sound incredibly good. Anyway, I am going to try to rephrase a few things at some point tonight. ħuman 00:41, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Done. ħuman 03:48, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

*cough* the bit that sounds "incredibly good" is the particular variety of distortion they apply - David Gerard (talk) 09:18, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

We can disgree, but a really good class A mic preamp does not distort the signal. ħuman 09:59, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Ooh. True dat. And a valve running class A is rather less likely to melt than a transistor doing so - David Gerard (talk) 10:12, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

... particularly in a preamp rather than a power amp. Never mind me - David Gerard (talk) 10:28, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for fixing my "Mystery" link on T:WIGO. I noticed the missing "cp:" just as I hit Submit... and then, my connection to RW completely crapped out. XD --Sid (talk) 12:20, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

No problem, I figured that was what you intended. ħuman 23:35, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey Huw...

PFoster/TOP here via sock to circumvent my self-imposed wikibreak block. Just thought I'd give you a heads-up, someone is editing a certain website that beginns with "C" in regards to the question of loudspeakers...DarkStar (talk) 00:07, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

'Tis creepy indeed, thanks... that guy is so weird. ħuman 00:19, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Budget

RationalWiki:RationalWiki Foundation/2010 Q4 budget. Thoughts? tmtoulouse 00:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Everything looks good to me. I would suggest a slightly different naming convention, though, like /2010 Q4 budget. Then just as "agendas" are mirrored by "minutes", "budgets" can be mirrored by "financial reports". Nice work, and I hope people like the clarity. ħuman 00:58, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and also, in accounting negative numbers are usually indicated by putting them in parentheses. No big deal, though. How about calling "difference" "balance to be raised"? ħuman 01:02, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

RationalWiki:RationalWiki Foundation/2010 Q4 budget - budgets are always projections, so that word might be omittable? ħuman 01:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

We should switch a similar naming convention for agenda and minutes - 2010 08 28 Board meeting agenda, 2010 08 28 Board meeting minutes, or some such. ħuman 01:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Makes sense. tmtoulouse 01:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

by laws

Can you do a once over RationalWiki:RationalWiki Foundation/By laws before I pull it out for signatures? tmtoulouse 03:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

I was already there... thanks! ħuman 03:45, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Did a little tweaking, seems like it's ready for prime time. ħuman 04:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! tmtoulouse 04:11, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Email

I slapped you one.

("slapped" ? )

Please to check and etc. Lyra § talk 08:34, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Got it. Thy will has been done earf as is it in hefan. Don't forget to edit your signature to reflect your new 500 nMeterness. ħuman 08:46, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Blue (is useful) 09:12, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I just must ask it

What do you think about cannibalism? Eating other humans? ^{— Unsigned, by: some idiot / talk / contribs}

Yum! Freshly braised, with a nice source? ħuman 03:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

The Uruguayan ambassador to Bolivia might be upset

Deleting great stuff about Uruguay? This is stuff that Uruguayans and Uruguayan wannabes (such as myself) need to know to be informed citizens of the world. BTW, the picture (below) this looks somewhat like a girl I dated in thirty-odd years ago, except she wasn't in a boat (it was a townhouse) and she wasn't wearing white (it was yellowish) and she was mostly fictional (yes in a book, but not of poems!) and she was (I believe) mostly human such as yourself. What I remember was that she fell out of the boat -- even though there was no boat -- and there was a pinball machine somewhere too which wouldn't shut off.--Thomas Wright Sulcer (talk) 00:17, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Haha, that's funny. Oh, yeah, we aren't an encyclopedia, we have a narrower focus. Sorry bouts them deletions, but they weren't the stuff of which a RationalWiki article is made. Cheers! ħuman 00:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the girl in the boat is Uruguayan, possibly Bolivian (or a mix). I think SHE should definitely go in the Uruguay article, even though her garment is somewhat encyclopedic.--Thomas Wright Sulcer (talk) 02:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I could support that ;) ħuman 02:40, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Are you human or do you lean more towards robot or android like some of my cousins from south Jersey?--Thomas Wright Sulcer (talk) 12:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Conservapedia the Sitcom

I put an idea for it on the Talk page... It hasn't been edited for a looong time.

User:Mectrixctic 02:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. ħuman 03:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

i suck at internet

Please, sir, what the fuck is a bounty mule and what makes what whatever it is topical here? mb 22:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

I believe it is a clever play on your username (Mountain Blue <--> Bounty Mule). Blue (is useful) 22:51, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

The luBed one is correct. ħuman 02:49, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I see. Thank you. Being addressed as a mammal for no discernible reason always slightly confuses me. mb 12:27, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

My nephew

"Gooniepunk's nephew"

Here's some photographic proof for you. Punky ^{Your mental puke relief} 01:23, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Let me be the first to say: awwww! Tetronian ^{you're clueless} 01:26, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Lol, I know. I must say that this whole being an uncle thing has me completely out of my element. I no nothing about babies. Lord of the Goons ^{The official spikey-haired skeptical punk} 01:30, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Sweet, thanks! ħuman 01:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Their heads are mushy and not glued on very tight so you have to hold them like cats. That's pretty much all I know. 14:42, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Server logs

File is gigantic. Thank goat for grep. 14:42, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

What date range? 14:49, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Creepy. I grepped out everything of interest. Call me later. 15:01, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

I rang. Let's try tomorrow, I'll be around more. Today I had to go to the hip young dentist with the photoshop xray machine to find my tooth is still strong and that we have the technology to rebuild it. ħuman 06:06, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello

Sorry I've not been around, it is the beauty of changing work shifts in a matter of about a week. How are things? BTW, I felt you should know that my sister (as I predicted) changed her mind about the kid and decided to keep it rather than give it up for adoption. The Goonie 1 ^{What's this button do? Uh oh....} 14:44, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Was that from "the incident"? Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 15:06, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, unfortunately. Lord of the Goons ^{The official spikey-haired skeptical punk} 15:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh christ on an easter stick, the "history" channel is running a show about "hell", with far too much jesus and baptists talking like the assfly about it. Quelle stupidité!

why did you remove my edits?

here.206.130.174.42 (talk) 19:03, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Probably because a wall of stuff dumped by someone who can't be bothered to register a user name is rather suspect. 19:23, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

So if I registered a name, I could post the exact same stuff without it being removed (particularly before 24 hours)?206.130.174.42 (talk) 19:25, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Don't take it personally, Human does this all the time. He has very high standards for his wiki. Генгис^pillaging 19:29, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm not. I'm just trying to suss things out here. :-) I'm also patient, given that he must be away for a while.206.130.174.42 (talk) 19:45, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

EDIT > "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it." sterile gun 20:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

If only it was. Mine got huffed.205.189.194.208 (talk) 20:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Human owns this wiki, figuratively speaking. He does as he pleases. If it makes you feel any better, I watched most of the videos. If it makes you feel any better, post them again. Occasionaluse (talk) 21:10, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Better yet, create a user account and stick all that on its user page. Then your sig will be a link to all of them. ħuman 21:19, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Occasionaluse. So noted Human. I see you reverted my edit in Ghost in the machine. (sigh) I'm gonna watch a few videos.205.189.194.208 (talk) 00:12, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Also, unless I'm mistaken, this is the 3rd day in a row you've posted something, had it removed, and then spent several posts moaning about it. It's not exactly behaviour that inspires confidence - especially in a BoN. --PsyGremlin말하십시오 00:19, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘And if it's any consolation, I've had my run-ins with Human, but you sort of learn to love him after a bit the way you love a parent who drives you nuts. --Leotardo (talk) 00:24, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

To all: First off, please forgive the delay.

PsyGremlin, if by "moaning" you mean "asking for an explanation about the reverts," then I suppose I'm moaning.

First, SusanG reverted my edits on Isaac Asimov and then Christopher Hitchens. In the later, there was no explanation. She just did it.

So in trying to avoid an edit war, I went to her talk page. In our chat about Hitchens, I got a satisfactory response. The issue about Isaac Asimov is still unresolved. I have yet to see the Will Smith movie as I figure that Hollywood has ruined it, but I saw the Simpsons episode perhaps a few times.

True, the Wikipedia article on Asimov doesn’t refer to it, but there is an article on the Simpson’s episode, I, (Annoyed Grunt)-Bot—the link to which I put in the article, but was reverted in the wash.

As for the video link, I too would have preferred Youtube, but as I indicated, these Californians likely fear Californian lawyers hired by Fox more than the Russians do, hence the Russian link.

While Wikipedia likely wouldn’t approve of such links due to copyright issue, I figured that RationalWiki would be less sensitive to such as though the File:I-robot.jpg, “does not have 'have' an image copyright notice,” even though it was uploaded over 2 years ago.

Next, my Saloon Bar posts (here). Now maybe it’s just me, but when I think, “Saloon Bar” I tend to think politics, music, and fun: hence the video links. Now Human had a reasonable explanation: go put it on my userpage (upon registering an account). Very well. But it seems a fair amount of the posts in the SB could similarly go on Userpages, or perhaps talk pages.

As for Human’s reverting my edit in Ghost in the machine, again, it might be me, but the first time I heard that expression was the Police album, and only well over a decade later, I heard of it in reference to Descartes. Note that not only is the WP article on the album is bigger than the other article here, it’s bigger than the WP one. Further, the RW and WP ones seem to be quite different.

I also noticed that the RW article on Zoroastrianism is not only a little misleading but also smaller than the one in the Conservapedia article and Uncyclopedia one, and much smaller than the ones in aSK and Citizendium.

Maybe I’d improve the article later.     ;-)    206.130.174.42 (talk) 20:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Most of this belongs on the various articles' talk pages. As far as the GitM edit, we had just removed 8 or ten pop culture references, if you were paying attention. In general, really, if you're the same person, you've been around for several months, if you created a username people would get used to you and you'd probably find more leeway. Editing as an IP makes you a "stranger" every time (since IPs aren't static, they could be anybody), and causes your edits to be viewed with more suspicion. ħuman 20:30, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

(Same guy, different IP.) Again noted. As for the SB, it's hard to keep track when there are few summaries. I'll be winding down the IP edits soon, and create an account.    ;-)    205.189.194.208 (talk) 21:28, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

I hope may be the first to welcome you when you do! ħuman 23:20, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

paper work

Just a note while I am thinking about it, I checked and it looks like the offending paperwork was received, processed, and cleared so thanks for getting that done! tmtoulouse 17:40, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

That's great! I was going to ask you if you'd seen any results yet. And you're welcome, no problem, these are the heavy burdens we knew we were signing up for! ħuman 21:23, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Package

Sent your naga chutney today. Remember to just throw it in the bin if it smells / tastes a bit off and don't bother sending the other one to Nutty. Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 12:55, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Ooooh, awesome, I can't wait! ħuman 16:43, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

It has arrived, and looks perfectly fit for human consumption. And nutty decomposition. Thanks! I'll forward one jar tomorrow. ħuman 19:56, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Ey are absent from eir Wiki CommunEntity

Now's the time to strike hard, while ey are away!!! Gooniepunk2010 ^{Oi! Oi! Oi!} 22:46, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Lol... ħuman 01:24, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

OMG OMG reverts mean people hate me

You keep reverting my edits no matter how hard I try to keep to the spirit of RW. I mean, I wouldn't much care except that I put my time into what I do and it's just a little frustrating. If your going to keep at it, could you at least specify why from now on? Like "This is pure drivel" or "This lacks any citation so is totally nonsense coming from a newb" or "Conservative propaganda" or "Giving RW a bad name with this stupidity"?

Seriously though, I'll just stop participating long before I resort to edit wars or arguing over every little detail of how much bias and sillyness should be in a wiki that is, by nature, biased and silly. Aphoxema (talk) 13:21, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

It's a test: If you can overcome Human's counterediting for over a month, you'll last forever. 14:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, then I must persevere for the good of... trivial psuedoencyclopedic knowledge wrapped in an ever changing forum of reasonably intelligent people whose collective knowledge somehow thrived well enough to equal something greater than before despite the inevitable quarreling of individuals sharing a stage and the culmination of which is captivating enough to earn no less than 12 hours a week of my attention. Aphoxema (talk) 14:14, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

10/10 for sentence length! 14:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Don't be impressed or anything, it's all the Tim Minchin I've been listening to. Makes my inner-monologue all Australia-ey and monotonous and runs on and on. Aphoxema (talk) 14:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

More seriously, Human's abuse of the rollback button has been bothering me too for quite a while. Please don't use rollback to revert non-vandalism edits, Human. -- Nx / talk 19:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I use undo whenever I can. If there are several edits in a row, that can be very difficult. "Abuse"? ħuman 19:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes. The rollback button is meant for obvious vandalism, when there is no need to supply an edit summary. You are using it to remove non-vandalism edits without giving an explanation, thus resulting in the above scenario. You've also reverted someone's edits because it was too hard to copyedit, which is frankly ridiculous. Ever heard of don't bite the newbies? What do you think a new editor will do when they see that their edits have been thrown out without an explanation, or because you couldn't be bothered to copyedit it? Some might persevere, but most would probably just say fuck it, it's not worth it. No one is being paid to write our articles, so you cannot expect every edit to be perfect. We should be thanking them for coming here and expanding our articles in the first place (even if their edits are unsuitable, e.g. Fun:Dunkinism), rather than throwing their edits back at them with a "not good enough, try again loser". Sometimes you're almost as bad as Ed Poor. -- Nx / talk 19:26, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

You might notice that the rollback of the noob's work in question was followed by my going to their talk page to apologize and discuss. Which was then followed by them substantially improving the article in question. ħuman 19:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

where? I looked at your last 500 edits, three were reverts of Aphoxema's edits, twice someone else asked on the talk page why you reverted that (Once it was Aphoxema, once someone else), in the third case there was no discussion afterwards. -- Nx / talk 19:42, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

You're looking in the wrong place. Check the history of Jehovah's Witnesses or whatever it's called. ħuman 19:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

That was User:Tweenk, which is a different matter entirely, but I've already addressed that in my rant above. -- Nx / talk 19:50, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh shut up. I worked hard with Tweenk and they did great work, and that process was part of what you were bitching about. Aphoxema started this section as a joke you silly person, and you decided to turn it into accusations of "abuse". Now go back under your bridge and stop wasting my time with your whiny orange boxes. When was the last time you helped a noob or marked an edit "patrolled", anyway? ħuman 03:07, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Are you drunk again? -- Nx / talk 05:02, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

No. ħuman 05:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

pot, kettle. -- Nx / talk 17:59, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Spoon, fork. The Spikey Punk ^{I'm punking my punk!} 18:48, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Bells, whistles. Conservative Punk (talk) 18:58, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Tables, chairs. FrankThePseudoscientist (talk) 19:05, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Mashed potatos, gravy. PunchingBag (talk) 19:08, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Steel, aluminum. The Goonie Punk ^{Can't sleep, clowns will eat me!} 19:11, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Doctor, nurse. Conservative Punk (talk) 19:13, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

North America, South America. FrankThePseudoscientist (talk) 19:16, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Onion, garlic. --Onion <talk> 19:16, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Steak, potatos. Punky ^{Your mental puke relief} 19:18, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Ketchup, mustard. --Onion <talk> 19:19, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Salt, pepper. Gooniepunk2010 ^{Oi! Oi! Oi!} 19:20, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Scotch, bourbon. Conservative Punk (talk) 19:24, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Supervising technician, technical supervisor. FrankThePseudoscientist (talk) 19:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Human, Nx. The Spikey Punk ^{I'm punking my punk!} 19:29, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Atheist, Godbotherer. Conservative Punk (talk) 19:36, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Coughing, sneezing. FrankThePseudoscientist (talk) 19:40, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘From Human's last 250 edits, here are the instances in which he reverted an obviously non-vandalism edit with no explanation on the talk page or the "offending" editor's talk page. This is by no means saying that the edits were necessarily good edits, of course, and they vary in terms of quality:

1. Ayn Rand
2. Fahrenheit 9/11
3. Jesus Christ
4. Fellatio
5. Nikola Tesla
6. Poland
7. Rapture
8. Homophobia
9. Obesity. Even though Aphoxema went to the talk page, and Genghis undid Human's revert, he still remained silent.

I'm still not sure whether this constitutes administrative abuse or not. Some of the above list are edits by IPs, who do not enjoy the benefits of having a "name," and fall into a bit of a gray area. Blue (is useful) 20:51, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I am not opposed to reverting edits of new users, but I think the kid gloves should be used for new editors, we are trying to attract users not repel them. Undo if its a bad edit but don't use insulting or demeaning edit comments, and a note to the user about why and how to do better or on the talk page. tmtoulouse 20:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I have not always agreed with Human's reverts, and he has even done the same thing to me. I know that he has high standards for RW and I respect his judgement in a lot of things. However, it would make things run a lot smoother if he could explain his rollbacks so that people don't feel offended, especially with new editors.  Lily ^{Inspirate me.} 21:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Correction: Human's standards are his own, and entirely self-serving. And his judgment is piss poor. He's just really good at throwing his weight around; it's easy to outmaneuver other people when you make three times as many edits as anyone else. </bitterness> Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 05:06, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I like turtles! Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 20:14, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

For some reason I bought myself a 16" machete last night. I'll administer some punishment to you all. i⁹ 20:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

fuck you

fuck you fucking human --Pussy licker 3 (talk) 04:54, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Reverts...

This isn't a big issue, and I'm not going to pontificate here, but is it really necessary to use the revert function so liberally? It just doesn't seem like this, for example, was so pressing or difficult to get rid of that you couldn't use undo; I'm not accusing you of abuse (though someone has already done that). Blue (is useful) 03:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Not abuse, crappy edit to cover story article, by offensively named newcomer. Someone else rolledback the other instance of a similar edit, you might note. ħuman 03:03, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Amusing how they didn't tell me they were accusing me of something. Transparency in name-calling goes a long way. I also see no evidence being presented there, just a whine. ħuman 03:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

(EC)Said other user most likely only followed your example, though that is beside the point. Again, I'm not saying it's abuse, but it is a bit abrasive. I agree with Trent above when he said that "kid gloves" should be used with new users. Blue (is useful) 03:06, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Let's keep in mind the user's chosen name, you silly person. Lick your mother's pussy? Seems like high quality work by a soon-to-be major contributor to you? ħuman 03:09, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree that it's offensive, but ey wasn't vandalizing or trolling. A username can always be changed, it's the person behind the computer that matters. Blue (is useful) 03:12, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh come on. Drop it before you start looking stupid instead of just silly and vindictive. ħuman 03:15, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Or was your point to obliquely let me know of the chicken coop affair? In which case, you could have been clearer, but thanks. ħuman 03:18, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

You can't respond to an argument's validity without attacking the arguer herself? And it wasn't. Like I very clearly said, I'm not accusing you of abuse. Blue (is useful) 03:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

As I said above... you haven't actually made an argument yet. ħuman 03:37, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

And I'm not sure what your point is, other than alerting me to the chicken coop thing. ħuman 03:38, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Quoth Blue: "is it really necessary to use the revert function so liberally? ... this, for example, was [not] so pressing or difficult to get rid of that you couldn't use undo..." I am criticizing your recent actions with regards to a liberal use of the revert function, as others have done and are doing. Blue (is useful) 03:50, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Christ, are we still wasting my time over this? Yes, when I see a crap edit - to a "gold" article - by LICK YOUR MOTHER'S PUSSY, rollback is a simple solution. Are we afraid I might offend LICK YOUR FUCKING MOTHER'S PUSSY's delicate sensibilities? Seriously? It's the only griefer link you provided for me to go by, so I defend it. Now go LICK YOUR MOTHER'S PUSSY. At least I welcomed them and didn't rename them. ħuman 04:04, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm not a witch

SNL parodies teabagger Christine O'Donnell. The Goonie Punk ^{Can't sleep, clowns will eat me!} 00:01, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Also this one. Blue (is useful) 00:28, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Cool. I was vainly searching utube for "bill maher christine o'donnell" and just realized it has to be "PI" not "BM"... cheers! ħuman 00:48, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

That was funny! --Onion <talk> 01:05, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

X-words

I discovered that you are a cross-word aficionado. Have you read Pretty girl in crimson rose (8)? BTW the answer is rebelled. Have a think about it first.  Lily ^{Inspirate me.} 14:09, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

BELLE in RED. Thanks :) Sounds like an interesting book, I wonder if it published stateside? Cryptics are much lower profile over here. Just FYI, I do the daily/prize/everyman Gaurniad puzzles, and go to fifteensquared to read the blogs when I am finished or give up. I also enjoy the monthly puzzle at puzzlecrypt. ħuman 18:12, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Article Name Help

Wondering if I could just bounce this off you... I'd like to begin an article on how austerity measures & spending cuts after the Global Recession will affect spending cuts. I've done some research and got some good sources together. I was thinking something like, "Scientific Spending Cuts" or "Scientific Spending in times of global austerity." Any ideas how you'd name it? Dalek (talk) 18:31, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

The latter sounds interesting. Don't use any unnecessary capitals in the title, though. Do you have data from previous recessions? Esp. the 91-92ish one? And the Japanese crash way back when (80s?)? ħuman 18:51, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll certainly look into it, and try to comment on how the current austerity measures will compare to past ones. I won't put the article up until i've got a lot of research together and it looks good. Dalek (talk) 19:26, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

One good way to do that is to create a sandbox - a subpage of your user page - that way you can wikify it as you work, and even invite assistance if you want. Then when it's ready, you use "relocate" it to move it to the mainspace, which maintains all the history. Click on this red link if you want to edit a sandbox: user:Dalek/sandbox ħuman 21:36, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

You, sir, are a tardbomination...

You reverted my edit, so there. The word has been Christened in an actual sentence and you are the very first recipient. Now watch as the lexicosphere takes it and runs with it! (shit, did I do it again?)--Brendiggg (talk) 16:22, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Ninjas discussion continued

• MediaWiki:Grouppage-ninja: This is the link that appears e.g. on Special:Userrights/Onion, if you change this you have to move the page, which is currently Project:Ninjas
• MediaWiki:Group-ninja, MediaWiki:Group-ninja-member: Edit these to rename the group, one is the name of the group (e.g. "Cabal") the other is the name of a member of the group (e.g. "Cabalist", "Cabal member" etc.)
• You can't change the internal name (which is "ninja"), but that doesn't really matter since it's not really visible. If it really bothers you I can change it to something else. -- Nx / talk 08:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the info. Until I think of a better name (something based around "bot") I won't worry about that. I appreciate your paying attention and trying to explain this to me! ħuman 08:42, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the name is growing on me, since these users can "become invisible". Makes sense to me now. Again, thanks! ħuman 08:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

It's a good name. Just so long as we don't end up having "pirate" and "zombie"... Totnesmartin (talk) 09:58, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Great. Now everyone will be sticking beans up their nose! ħuman 10:07, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

"If the site is still using our name and logo in 48 hours..."

"...I will be talking to a very smart lawyer about it." Whoever could that be, Human?! SJ ^Debaser 10:37, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Some guy I know who is good at this stuff. Peter Pan? ħuman 10:40, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

/* Schlafly smile picture */

With pleasure:

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/replicate/EXID34769/images/AndrewSchlaflyMed.jpg

And a bonus:

http://www.medlib.ch/images-content/01SLCTop%20Fighters%20J.Ch&A.Sch0393.JPG

--JJ4e^talk 13:24, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

All in fun

yes, well... I've cooled off a lot since then. Trouble is, "merkin" strikes too close to home, since too many of my fellow USAns have not the first clue what it means. Kind of like saying horrible things to the family dog in a cutesy-wootsy voice. I may be dipping a toe in RW again, but mostly lurking for a while... best, Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 20:24, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Earthland's LANCB

Thanks. That was, like, the 10th time he left and never came back. Maybe this time, he' be serious about it for once. AnarchoGoon ^{Swatting Assflys is how I earn my living} 13:12, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Hehe, what did I do this time? ħuman 20:11, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

He actually left and never came back a month ago, but he had to come back with a big neon sign saying "HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME I'M LEAVING IRRATIONALWIKI" because no-one cared that he was gone. -- Nx / talk 20:14, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Unpronounceable name

It's not meant to be pronounced. -- Nx / talk 20:47, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Huh? ħuman 20:50, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I was responding to your block a few days ago [1] I just noticed it when blocking myself. -- Nx / talk 20:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, that. I remember now! ħuman 00:40, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

some loser

That template is used a lot in wigos and twigo:cp comments, so experimenting with stuff like redirecting to cancer is not a terribly good idea. Also while I would agree to changing to some loser, it would affect a lot of past comments and wigos, making them confusing if you're not reading the source. -- Nx / talk 06:05, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Also, using his real name with a link to the article is good for our google rankings, and it's probably the only thing that really annoys him. And it's fair game too simce it's from the la times. -- Nx / talk 06:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Ignoring first issue (other people have been editing it for days; I undid the redirect really quick after testing), sure, fine. ħuman 06:52, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

guffaw

Every time I read "layer", I think "hen". Please ignore me now. HI-Larious. Fuck^that 19:38, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Nothing important here

Just thought I'd let you know that I did, indeed, have my appendix removed and will likely be away from my 'puter for a little while whilst I recover. Other than that, the surgery went well, and I'm doing okay, all things considered. Lord of the Goons ^{The official spikey-haired skeptical punk} 18:21, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Can I have your appendix? Fuck^that 19:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, Ace, I fed it to the Greebs next door to keep them at bay for a while. The Goonie Punk ^{Can't sleep, clowns will eat me!} 04:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

At least they took it out right away. An old GF had to wait 3 months on antibiotics for some reason. Did they suck it out with a straw? ħuman 22:21, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Pretty much, yeah. They stuck two large tubes in me and a camera to get it out. The rest of the details I am unsure of, as I was (obviously) unconcious. Lord of the Goons ^{The official spikey-haired skeptical punk} 04:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Excellent. Too bad you gave it to charity rather than keeping at as a souvenir (that's French for I forgot) for the stage act! ħuman 05:45, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

The worst part, interestingly, is having to re-learn how to use the bathroom, but I suppose that would be TMI. Anyways, I shall return home any day now (I'm at my folks' house for now), and I will then be able to annoy RationalWiki once again with my siliness, except this time on pain meds! Lord of the Goons ^{The official spikey-haired skeptical punk} 04:42, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Lol at the TMI; hope you are recuperating rapidly! We all miss ya! ħuman 04:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

I wish you a speedy recovery. ListenerX^TalkerX 04:47, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks guys. So far, so good in the recovery department. Lord of the Goons ^{The official spikey-haired skeptical punk} 05:38, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Hey you fat cunt, Huw just told me you were in the cuttery. Hope you get back to snuff soon and those holes close up good and true. Give a shout if you need soup. 05:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Question

I've recently been adding (non snarky) wikimedia commons images to articles. I've mostly been doing this for people and animals, and limiting it to 1 per page. As you've been around here much longer than I have, and have helped me with policy things in the past, should I extend this to locations and objects? Just people? Nothing? Tyrannis^{An Iron, but caring, fist} 03:02, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

If the images improve the article - especially if they hone a point - by all means add them. But don't just add gratuitous junk just because it shares the same filename. ħuman 05:53, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Alrighty. Tyrannis^{An Iron, but caring, fist} 12:51, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

What are the odds?

I just realized that I live an hour away from you... Kallium^talk 09:16, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Cool. So does EVDebs (he's in MA). Where are you, vaguely? ħuman 09:21, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

What a surprise, I find that I'm also less than an hour away from you. If I were to travel at 3,500 mph.. Генгис^pillaging 13:00, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

A little ways off 95 in so ME. Kallium^talk 02:36, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Nice place to live. Lex & Joe at the Cape Neddick Lobster Pound, this Sat 11/6 from 9-12 PM. Should be a blast... ħuman 12:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

He is watching and waiting....

and will strike when you least expect it, 99.181.101.133 (talk) 22:36, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm shaking in my boots. I wonder if he realizes that he leaves footprints all over the internet when he does his "research"?

http://www.wired.com/reviews/2010/11/pr_roundup_stereo_components/?pid=180

Thanks for the tip, btw, whoever you are, Agent 99! ħuman 22:43, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

"Old-school looks did not pass the lady test." Well, obviously, that is because you lack...wait fot it...MA-CHEEEES-MO. 99.181.101.133 (talk) 22:47, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Burt Reynolds style mustaches are back in style. 22:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

If it'll help you feel better, you can rip on Ken Demyer over at this place. Lord Goonie ^{Hooray! I'm helping!} 07:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

The Malloy folk we used to associate with

I guess, according to one of them, they "feel bad" that I flipped them off over a certain tyrant acting, well, like a tyrant and want me back in the group, as they "didn't explain to me that Huw is a persona non grata for various reasons." My retort, in true, punk rock fashion: Piss off and leave me alone. AnarchoGoon ^{Swatting Assflys is how I earn my living} 07:04, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

P.S: i was just looking back at this point in time. "Wow!" is all I can say. The Goonie 1 ^{What's this button do? Uh oh....} 07:38, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Classroom prayer quote

That was one of my worst moments of obtuseness - I actually didn't get the joke. Blue (pester) 03:26, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

It happens to us all, no harm done. And it led you to improving the "explain" template, so it all turned out for the best, right? ħuman 03:36, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Very important

I have emailed you... Blue (is useful) 04:44, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, indeed, I received it. I am still pondering my response, in order to give it the gravitational field it is due. ħuman 05:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, thanks for pondering it, but what you suggested was exactly what I was trying to avoid - being somewhere between sysop and 'crat, with no real prospect of change without directly asking for it. So I opted for self-decratification. That's all. :) Blue (pester) 04:34, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

There is no in-between, you either is or you ain't. But as you have decided how to proceed, I hope you at peace with your solution :). One day I suspect this place will develop actual criteria for cratship, and perhaps even the mop and broom. Someday. Perhaps. ħuman 04:42, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

To be perfectly honest, one of the few things that always has gnawed at me about RW is its lack of any guidelines for such a key thing as granting/removing user rights, even after the HCM and arguing and hurt feelings and LANCB. Could be that nobody cares enough to talk about them - but then, why does the head come right off the chicken when someone appears to abuse their rights, especially 'crats? Ponder this, I will. Blue (is useful) 04:56, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Clarify - granting sysop rights is pretty well established, & not what I'm talking about here. Blue (pester) 05:01, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Abiogeneis

Regarding your comment on my talk page about the "lightning striking a mud puddle theory", NewScientist has already covered the issue of abiogeneis and how early cells managed to use an acid-alkaline gradient to produce energy. The citation I added to the abiogenesis article links to it, as well as a very helpful 10 minute YouTube clip expounding abiogenesis in detail. Please remember that electricity from lightning is limited to that strike, lightning strikes are more or less random. It is here that undersea vents have an advantage, for being much more stable and a rich source of organic compounds. Here is a link to that clip, if you'd like to see it [2].Several ingredients (talk) 05:37, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I understand already, but thank you. But a "better" hypothesis does not "disprove" a "lesser" one. Neither is testable, although either can tested to see how "possible" they are via modern experiment. ħuman 14:47, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

This is what you've always wanted,\

It doesn't surprise me the least that you would do something like this[3], this allows you to feel smugly superior not only to other rationalwikians but to rationalwiki itself by covering up the site's proud logo. Now you can live in your own little world with you own little logo.

Yeah, you bastard. Well two can play at that game....Ace^{word up} 03:41, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

I thought Nx wrote an autounsig bot, which is why I never bothered to "out" the boring BoN who started this thread. ħuman 05:57, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Mutant Kaled says,

Mutant Kaled says, "Fuck yeah!" ^EXTERMINATE 05:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. ħuman 05:56, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Does anyone use the IRC channel? Thought I'd check before actually downloading a client. ^EXTERMINATE 07:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

It's been quite a while since I dropped by, back then there were a few regulars, people who either weren't active or identifiable on the wiki. Nice folks, though. Once in a while there'd be someone else "from" the wiki there. ħuman 16:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

O hai.

Ahhh! How do I go about losing the red inkyness; just any edit whatsoever, or actually putting substantial material there?

And I note the irony of awarding advanced-ish-er tools to someone who barely knows what the basic ones are. :p you folks truly do have a warped (although I must say, interesting and appealing) sense of humour here.

TIA. -- Nij (talk) 07:22, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Looks like you figured it out already! Glad you like it around here, may your goats be prolific and tasty! ħuman 15:47, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Hypothetical re: Citizendium

Say a disgruntled watcher of the Citizendium HCM here wanted to create a Wiki that watches Citizendium. What sould one call it? Citizendiumdium? Citizendiumdumdum? Lumeniki? Gooniepunk2010 ^{Oi! Oi! Oi!} 18:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

RationalWiki. Tetronian ^{you're clueless} 18:30, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Right now, that seems to be the name. But what if I were to hypothetically make a place for it to move to so that it gets off MY Wiki!!!!!?????? Lord of the Goons ^{The official spikey-haired skeptical punk} 18:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm surprised we don't have a WIGOCZ by now. Although the CZ talk page is effectively that. But yeah, good question...I wonder if our friend Lumenos would be up for the job? Tetronian ^{you're clueless} 18:36, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't matter if he is up the job, it just matters if we decide to send it there. Besides, it looks like, based on Lumeniki's recent changes, that Lumenos has returned to Eir home planet for the time being. The Spikey Punk ^{I'm punking my punk!} 18:39, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

WIGOCZ would suffer the same as WIGOASK, only a small subset of users care or follow the issues, and at least with ASK the discussions and issues usually relate directly to our mission. CZ is interesting from an online community management perspective which isn't exactly RW mission. Tmtoulouse (talk) 18:41, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Going through Cz's fossil record, it seems that it's DG's baby, as he has made most of the edits, followed by you(Human) and DoctorDark. ^{An iron, yet caring fist} 18:48, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Back to topic at hand, what would we call the Wiki that watches Citizendium, should I theoretically make one somewhere? Gooniepunk2010 ^{Oi! Oi! Oi!} 18:55, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

[4] Tmtoulouse (talk) 18:57, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I chuckled quietly to myself all day after reading these comments. ħuman 03:02, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

We have RationalWiki:What is going on at Citizendium? and its talk page now. ħuman 18:12, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Email

Hey, mind if I get your email address? Or can I send emails through MediaWiki? ^EXTERMINATE 04:32, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

If you entered and confirmed yours you can use the "email this loser" function here. ħuman 04:35, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Found it, thanks.. Sent you some thoughts. ^EXTERMINATE 04:47, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Wired

Congratulations on the great review! - π 10:28, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! ħuman 16:26, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Wreck RW day

Here you should organize a wreck RW party or something and set a day/time and I will unlock the database, one last hurrah and then it goes offline. Tmtoulouse (talk) 06:00, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. Sunday November 21 it will be, in honor of how we all met. Also it gives you time to buy a fire extinguisher, since obviously the goal to outdraw your hot pockets and destroy your local electrocity grid, if possible. I'll bring it up on the SB tomorrow, and perhaps set up a user space page for discussing things to destroy. I'm glad you appreciate the old days and rabid destruction of the beauty we have created. So can you open it, say, from 4AM GMT Nov 21 and kill it around 30 hours later? ħuman 06:09, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

I will unlock the database sunday midnight, I will leave the rest to you and anyone else that wants to organize and alert others. A few rules should be put into place, such as no malicious java script just to keep things fun. Tmtoulouse (talk) 00:27, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

So midnight between 11/20 and 11/21 EST for 24 hours or so? Just to clarify. IE, all of Sunday EST plus some more perhaps? ħuman 03:33, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

All day sunday yes. Tmtoulouse (talk) 07:12, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Cool thanks, I'll get the word out tomorrow, right now I'm a bit fagged out to make grand announcements no one cares about. Thanks for realizing some of us want to relive the old 1.0 to 2.0 days! ħuman 07:16, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, that was fun. I forgot how much pleasure there is to be found in making a wiki function tragically badly. ħuman 03:13, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

It was awesome. Thank you. Have a good night. ^{An iron, yet caring fist} 03:18, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

That was some of the best fun I've had on the internet. Onion <talk> 03:59, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I have now created a userbox for you and other participants. --Onion <talk> 03:14, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Cool, thanks! ħuman 04:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Reversions on LSD and Psilocybin

There is, I am sure, some reason why these two edits, both of which provided accurate information about the cultural context of these drugs, were reverted. I am, however, utterly mystified as to what that reason is.

In the case of LSD, I thought I was nicely expanding the account of what LSD users value in the drug - without giving it any sort of metaphysical validity, the fact of the matter is that numerous artistic sorts, Pink Floyd and Steve Jobs among them, have cited LSD experiences as an influence. This seems pretty straightforward and worth noting. (Also, that edit removed a stray ref tag that was screwing up a sentence, so at the very least, go take that back out)

As for psilocybin, the article, although hilarious in its current form, really could use some debunking of the pop culture understanding of psychedelics. You know. A spot of information in amongst the snark - not a bad thing.

But if there's some flaw in the edits that I am unaware of, by all means, let me know so I can try to improve them instead of just ripping them out without explanation. 71.88.35.24 (talk) 05:21, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

They were crap. ħuman 05:22, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Your extensive and cogent explanation is much appreciated. Would you like to elaborate on that one, or shall we just skip straight to the revert warring? 71.88.35.24 (talk) 05:25, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

You want me to dig back and paste every bit of incorrect I read and justify it to you? How about you go to the talk pages and paste your edits in there? ħuman 05:27, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Because this is a wiki, made for swift and collaborative editing, not for obsessive pedantry on talk pages? I mean, in the end, yes - I want you to explain what's wrong with the edits. You can feel free to do so on the talk pages, here, or wherever, but my posting on the talk page is not actually going to change the fact that you haven't provided anything resembling an explanation for the reversions. So why don't you provide some explanation that, you know, has content to it, and I'll wake up tomorrow and make a bunch of changes to deal with your objections while still adding the actual information and content the edits contain. Or, you know, wake up tomorrow, see you continuing to dodge the fairly straightforward request, and just revert you. Either works, let me know which I'm doing. Cheers. 71.88.35.24 (talk) 05:30, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

No, because you edited in multiple places, making it hard to cut and paste your poor quality edits to the talk page. I said "your edits were crap". That is my opinion. Feel free to defend them or improve them via the talk page. You can't be bothered to create a user name, but I am expected to make a half dozen copy/pastes to critique your poor edits? Keep in mind, I did not simply rollback everything you did, there was another sizable edit I copyedited. You gonna write on-mission articles for all those authors and the "ism" you mentioned? ħuman 05:35, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, terribly sorry for actually editing across the whole article and fixing it up. Will probably happen repeatedly again. As for a username, I was unaware that they were such a premium. Having suffered the extreme agonies of actually developing a social identity on Wikipedia, which, it turns out, can lead to all sorts of unpleasant things like administrator status and actual work to do, I've largely opted to avoid it in favor of the cheery efficiency of IP addresses. I was unaware that this choice rendered my contributions invalid - I would have thought that the fact that I have taken the time to expand a half-dozen articles this evening and create another would represent a sufficient commitment of effort to be taken seriously. How was I to know that actually, the real trick was to pass a Captcha. As for the authors and isms Depends on whether A) I can think of anything both relevant to RW's general mission and on-topic for those subjects, B) Whether I feel like it, and C) Whether I move on from the psychedelic articles in a timely manner or get bogged into a dispute that manages to avoid actually talking about the article in favor of making snarky comments. Which, mind you, I am all for. I love snarky comments. And verbiage. Sweet, sweet verbiage. But yeah. Those are basically the determining factors. Mostly B, though, if I'm being honest. Truth be told, I like red links. They have a certain festive spirit. 71.88.35.24 (talk) 05:42, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Your contribututions were not "invalid" - they were just lame. Your sarcasm is duly noted. Now leave me the fuck alone and take your complaints to the talk pages of the articles in question. ħuman 05:45, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

What you describe sounds suspiciously like work, and I have a strange feeling that if I do so, you will continue to not actually offer an explanation of the problem. I mean, I can copy-paste the text to the talk page, and if that will get you to, you know, answer the fucking question, hey, I suppose I can jump through arbitrary hoops. But honestly, you can copy-paste the text to the talk page and then explain the problems. If, you know, you have any intention of doing so. If not, I'm going to go ahead and file you as "just being a dick instead of actually discussing content" and go back to, you know, adding content instead of this (admittedly amusing) pissing match. Quick question, though, from a noob - do we have 3RR here? It's helpful to know. 71.88.35.24 (talk) 05:49, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Funny how it's ok for you to expect me to "work". Now get the FUCK off my talk page and discuss the articles on their talk pages. ħuman 05:54, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

OK. Ta. 71.88.35.24 (talk) 06:14, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Derp!!!

How's it going my old friend? This is just a quickie update to tell you that things are going well with the move and all. And I no longer have a little bitch of a rommate to deal with. Anyways, I'll have internets soon, and hope to catch you around again. Later man. Gabe Conservative Punk (talk) 01:39, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Article ratings

Please pop by the discussion - David Gerard (talk) 17:46, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Picture

I would like to use a picture from your website on your RWW page, this one [5] or another one if you prefer. We are adding pictures you see(when we can get them)^{An iron, yet caring fist} 00:42, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

No thank you. If you are interested in using this one I might allow it, but the copyright must be protected. I do not release personal photographs to CC by SA. ħuman 03:37, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

No problem then. ^{An iron, yet caring fist} 17:33, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

You mad, old obsessive-compulsive

Nice to see you back around. Your "friend" been keeping you up to date with everything? - π 04:19, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I have lots of low friends in high places. Or is it vice versa? Anyway, when someone rings my bell, I usually answer within a day or two. ħuman 06:26, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Where does one get a bell cord for you from? - π 06:31, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Lol, if nothing else, there's one in my toolbox... ħuman 02:08, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Happy happy!

Penblwydd Hapus! Do you qualify as an old fart yet? --Ψ GremlinPrata! 11:30, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Is it your birthday? Huh, it's mine in a couple of days. We should have a joint virtual RW party. Well happy birthday dude. Have a bottle of scotch for me :) Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 11:43, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations on successfully crawling head first out of vagina all those years ago (apologies to xkcd). - π 12:53, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh snap! I shall convey my well wishes by dirty voicemail. 13:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Happy birthday! We almost share a birthday -- mine was this past Saturday. I, for one, do not qualify as an "old fart"; you have to be older than me to be an old fart. MDB (talk) 13:17, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Happy birthday, meine Fruende! The Spikey Punk ^{I'm punking my punk!}

Happy Birthday, mine was last Friday. This seems to be a populer time of year for RWians. ^{An iron, yet caring fist} 17:34, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for all the best wishes everyone! And happy birthday to you all, too! ħuman 02:07, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Ahhh yes, happy birthday! Mine is on Friday - whoot. Dirty 30. Ace^{word up} 02:08, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

And cumpleaños felíz from Krysten Ritter as well! Blue (is useful) 02:17, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

OMG she is so hot, it was sad when they killed her. Also also, today is my kid brother's 49th. I guess my parents got in the "breeding" or "careless" mood in March? ħuman 03:48, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

In all honesty, Huwman

From a friend to a friend, I think your charade of having numerous new accounts in place of "Human" has run its course, in my honest opinion. Time to move on and get over your bitchfest with Nx and the Wiki-at-large. The Goonie 1 ^{What's this button do? Uh oh....} 16:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

I reached the same conclusion yesterday. Thanks, though. ħuman 04:27, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

No, stay where you are. I've never really liked you. --Idiot number 59 (talk) 18:09, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh, shut up and write some pottery. ħuman 04:27, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Harry Truman

was human

unlike Huw Powell

who's more of an fowl

He's not quite smart

And he's got no heart

We all want him to go

and some eggs to throw

at him.

--Idiot number 59 (talk) 11:57, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Cartoon.

Thought of you. P-Foster (talk) 05:39, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Lol :) ħuman 06:44, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

FYI

You may find this little debate of interest once more comes of it (as I assume it will after I type this). Punky ^{Your mental puke relief} 18:01, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Blwyddyn newydd dda

Says it all really. Генгис^pillaging 20:15, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Wait, is that RWT-13? ħuman 02:48, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

In the language of the short, dark, coal mining, rugger playing folk he's wishing you the compliments of the new year. Him (talk)

We're only dark because we're covered with coal dust and mud! ħuman 03:05, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations

You have won the "RW's most authoritarian" award for 2010, sir!

And everyone think you're angry, too!

--Idiot number 59 (talk) 18:08, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Gee, thank. ħuman 04:03, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Day care sex abuse

Hey, in the article on child abuse, you made a reference to the Fernald Day Care scandal, and promised to find a reference for it. I decided to go looking for it myself and couldn't find anything. Is it possible that you got the name of the day care wrong? I ask because google searches for "Fernald Day Care" return three results, of which we're one, and wikipedia's article specifically on day care sex abuse panic doesn't mention anything about a Fernald. Thunderkatz^Ho! 18:00, 5 January 2011 (UTC) PS You made that edit over 2 years ago so I understand if you have no recollection of it.

That is quite possible. I read about it as it unfolded in the Boston Globe (boston.com). Let me see what I can find. ħuman 04:57, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Apparently my memory is no better than that of the alleged molested children. wp:Fells_Acres_Day_Care_Center_preschool_trial is the story in question, family name Amirault. Can you fix it, or should, I suppose, I? Ogling "day care child sex abuse boston globe amirault" works pretty well. ħuman 05:04, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

You're more familiar, I'll let you fix it (read: I'm lazy). On a completely unrelated note, what happened to the "0" edit button for editing the top section of pages? Thunderkatz^Ho! 05:12, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

OK, will do. A link would have been nice ;) The "0" link got buried under the star, I think, now I am seeing it as one font bigger than all other edit buttons, but like I see it on WP - an edit button for section zero. Ask Nx if you need more in-depth help. ħuman 06:09, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

e-mail

Did you get my e-mail the other day? Tmtoulouse (talk) 20:50, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

'Sup old friend

Haven't seen you around the Wiki much, nor have I had the time to call you. How are things? Gooniepunk2010 ^{Oi! Oi! Oi!} 02:54, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Get over yourself.

Srsly. It's more fun when there's more old-timers here. Cohort of 2007 represent! P-Foster (talk) 00:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, more old-timers please. Bring back the good old days! Dunno if I'm cohort of 2007 or 2008 though. Memory of back then is hazy. Secret Squirrel (talk) 00:39, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

It's been pretty quite old-timer-wise lately. sterile gun 01:32, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Even I wish you and your dumb PC self were back. Srsly. --Leotardo (talk) 03:29, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

He'll be back eventually. He just got caught in a creativity slump here, and needed some time off. Trus me. He's not LANCB. Lord Goonie ^{Hooray! I'm helping!} 07:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

What the fuck? Huw left? What fucking rubbish. I just fucked a wolverine and slobbered all over my fiancee's colon. Ho Ho Ho. Ace McAwesome 07:20, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Human is retard retired? How odd. But we know, it's not so easy to leave this place. --Kels (talk) 15:31, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I ate a big red candle. Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 15:36, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Huw, congratulations on the mention in Wired. Concernedresident ^{omg!!! ponies!!!} 15:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Get your arse back here, you gumpy old sod. SJ ^Debaser 15:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Lol, I stopped checking in when not only was I abused - and getting angry, and provoking anger - with every log in, but so were random sockpuppets I was using. Angry =/= fun. I never left, contrary to rumors to that effect. I just stopped dropping in on a place that made me less happy than before I checked in. CR, thanks, it really helped get me out of the deep dark depths of this awful recession. ħuman 04:19, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Good to see ya. P-Foster (talk) 02:02, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. And, by the by, I did finally find a way to send you that beer Ive been meaning to send you, so expect a beer to be delivered soon. Lord of the Goons ^{The official spikey-haired skeptical punk} 02:06, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! ħuman 02:34, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Where's my fucking beer? Ace McAwesome 02:37, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Get me shipping info, and I can send you one. Conservative Punk (talk) 02:40, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Everybody's dying

An old friend lost his wife Monday, after a long struggle with cancer. [6] ħuman 02:02, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Friend of mine just checked into palliative care with a brain tumour. 41 years old, 8 year old kid. P-Foster (talk) 03:35, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Ouch. Also, my cousin's husband offed himself a week or two ago. Left two teenage daughters, and an understandably distraught widow. ħuman 06:09, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Fish

You buy some fish or looking to buy? Or is this going to become an article somehow? (No, I don't sell fish)Тиранес^{admonish jellybean, bless microwave?} 04:24, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I am Rip van Winkle - 20 years out of the hobby, have a tank again. The science is the same, the tech has improved somewhat, the industry has dumbed down a bit. Sub page was a brain dump I was working on that was easier to format in a wiki than in openoffice. Certainly not an article here, might be a project thing at WP. I'm trying to list all the "common", ie, readily available, aquarium fish (fresh water only). ħuman 04:29, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Happy St. David's Day

A couple days late, but I've been away. No one I was with that day appreciated the significance. A certain Irish woman I just met went so far as to say "fuck the Welsh!" Well, at least she knew who St. David was. DickTurpis (talk) 04:01, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! The Celtic music host on WGBH spent most of his time asking a guest how much it was like St. Patrick's Day. Much headdesk ensued. Talk about spreading some cultural literacy... no, 3rd generation Welsh-Americans don't dye the river green and drink green beer until they throw up on the street. Man oh man... anyway, thanks! I wouldn't care except David is my middle name ;) ħuman 04:42, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

I miss Human

SJ ^Debaser 12:34, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Lord Goonie ^{Hooray! I'm helping!} 15:33, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

I don't. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 21:51, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I miss Human also. Ace ^{of Spades} 21:54, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I really don't think your comment was really necessary RA. Ace ^{of Spades} 21:55, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I never found Human's presence here really necessary. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 22:05, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Is the argument we're about to have really worth it? Mei III (talk) 22:02, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I just feel like being a douchebag today. It happens. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 22:05, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

^A lot. I miss Human too. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 22:10, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I know what it's like to be a douchebag, I hung up on Nutty the other day because I don't like him and I felt like being a douchebag. Also because he pulled his wang out and started singing Hotel California to the tune of Walking on Sunshine Ace ^{of Spades} 22:14, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I miss Human too but my aim is getting better all the time! 22:29, 13 March 2011 (UTC) C®ackeЯ

(Edit conflict) Can I get a recording of that? : ) Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 22:31, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Cracker made a funny. Ace ^{of Spades} 22:32, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

If a recording of nearly any conversation between me and Ace saw the light of day we'd both be in prison faster than the Aryan Nation will shank you for politely declining to toss salads. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 22:37, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Can someone help me figure out how some troll was able to hack the logs and, apparently, sign as Radioactive Afikomen? I've checked out the ways I know and none of them work in this case. Obviously, no bureaucrat in full possession of their faculties would leave such comments - and then back them up. Or would they? ħuman 01:41, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Wait, Mei is back? Cool! I missed Mei. ħuman 04:44, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Your presence is sorely missed. But I'm totally befuddled about something - what on EARTH are you doing with all the free time you must have generated by not editing here like a crazed weasel? DogP (talk) 05:08, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Lol DogP, haven't you looked up lately? I have finished repainting a full 1/8 of the stars in the sky! ħuman 01:41, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

RWF

As a fellow member of the RationalWiki Foundation, you may want to chime in here. Thanks. Lord of the Goons ^{The official spikey-haired skeptical punk} 23:09, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

How's it hangin'?

Been a while, hope all is well in your neck of the woods. Also, have you heard from Susan? I always worry whenever she LANCBs. P-Foster (talk) 03:50, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

S'good, slappin' both cheeks and all. Haven't heard from Our Lady of the Lake, no. Did she LANCB or just disappear for a bit? Check with Marghanita? ħuman 03:53, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Hard to tell. She did blank both her userpage and talkpage, though. Punky ^{Your mental puke relief} 14:46, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Ouch, that's LANCB indeed. She'll be back ;) I hope. I hope she's ok. ħuman 01:47, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Your email

check it. P-Foster (talk) 04:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

ok ħuman 04:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

"Spam Gucci wallets have always been known to be most qualitative"? Oh, no, the next one! ħuman 04:08, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. ħuman 04:12, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello

Regarding your comments on this, it's good to see you around these parts again, my friend. AnarchoGoon ^{Swatting Assflys is how I earn my living} 16:18, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

It was fun, and thanks. Eir lost me when ey started greenquoting. ħuman 04:57, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Human human human

How are things? Why does you yellow face icon keep moving around? It's lost. Mei III (talk) 04:58, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh Mei, how useful you are. Clicking on "mark as read" on the cash hunt put me back where I belong for me. I am fine, and how are you? ħuman 06:47, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I like to imagine that his face icon appears just below the RW logo because Human's just had an idea—one so brilliant it's represented by a brain instead of a lightbulb. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 07:17, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

And? I design shit from scratch. You jealous? ħuman 07:19, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Only of your wonderful brain. (And your good looks. For the record, you're the best damn looking fifty-year-old I've seen.) Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 07:22, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Goddamn, I missed a golden opportunity—my last post should've had the edit summary "Human thoughts". Get it?! : D Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 07:22, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I think I get it without the link, thanks. Considering I wrote the web site and all. ħuman 07:30, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Link was for Mei and other's benefit. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 07:32, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Link has been on my user page since you were in diapers. ħuman 07:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I generally error on the side of linking for posterity; not everyone will get all our references, so I avoid jargon and I link to relevant pages a lot. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 07:37, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Stop, citizen! You don't have a good reason to fight. Instead, consider loving each other.

I am cool with that, obviously, since I don't seem to mind someone who has made their mission to hate me posting here. ħuman 07:36, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

It's only my mission when I'm in a bad mood. Which is not right now. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 07:38, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Glad to hear that. About your mood, that is. ħuman 08:05, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I am fine. I have new clothes. And for me your face hovers over the navigation links - which is an interesting challenge. Mei III (talk) 07:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

New clothes yay! Yikes, sorry if my face is messing up your wiki experience. Ya know, back on RW1, we used to do that sort of exploit to each other, just to force us to learn how to deal with them. But is is not that. Damn thing should be stuck in the corner where it belongs. ħuman 07:30, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I like it floating around. I think it was pretty stable until I started using this other computer. I think this browser is pretty odd anyway. It changes lots of fonts somehow. Mei III (talk) 07:34, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Wow. Never noticed you had that. Cool. And doesn't move round for me.--Bob^{Spring is sprung!} 08:23, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

The intercom message moves it down. -- Nx / talk 09:36, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Exactly. ħuman 02:55, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Drugs

I was actually glad to see you cut in. I try to concede to majority opinion on wiki edit wars, even when I strongly disagree with it, but when its only two people there's no "majority" to concede to (although I would still like some explanation for why the drinking increase during prohibition was "useless," and Weaseloid is refusing to address anything I say). So, a third person was good. BTW, question: there was a certain claim made in Penn & Teller's Bullshit!, and I was wondering whether it would be relevant if I could find the source: that heroin is actually hundreds of times cheaper than before the war on drugs, indicating that government efforts to control drugs are not effective?--Mustex (talk) 15:00, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I think the trick is to figure out which article any given bit of information fits well in. The main drugs article is a bit tongue in cheek, so endless facts don't suit it as well. But we have many, many articles ranging from War on Drugs to specific articles on drugs, we might even have Heroin chic... One thing the interdiction of South American marijuana did, contrary to all "economics" rules about protectionism, was generate incredibly high-quality local product, since it forced US potheads to combine agricultural technology (hydroponics) with genetics (artificial selection)... and they loved their job... I'm not sure about H being "hundreds" of times cheaper (and P & T make some awful mistakes, IMHO), it was always a fairly cheap drug. The key to the price and availability of H is the production (supply) vs. demand... and the biggest recent issues have been the Taliban killing off production and then production skyrocketing due to our little "intervention" to secure pipeline routes free the Afghan people. ħuman 02:55, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, to be fair, the way they described it the price drop was actually a combination of factors. There was the rise in purity (5% to 95%), the actual drop in price ($30 to $4), and inflation.--Mustex (talk) 21:13, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm, I remember when street samples started turning up in Boston and NY with purities like that. There's a reason one of H's nicknames is "junk" - the old low-purity crap. !!!!

Dear Human.

It IS all about you, apparently. P-Foster (talk) 04:48, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Huh? ħuman 04:53, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi! Could I have a drink, please? ListenerX^TalkerX 04:55, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Where's Arthur? He was good about getting our drinks for us... ħuman 05:39, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

unnecessary revert

I have brought the changes to the talk page: Talk:Andrew Schlafly if you want to chime in. Rationalize (talk) 12:24, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. ħuman 11:18, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Texbook on gravitation

Dear Human, Have you already decided about writing this "Einsteinian gravitation (txtbook for high schools)" with me? It may be also on all the obove things (and should) ... JimJast (talk) 12:14, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Is there an advance involved? Writing is hard work, and requires food and other fuel. ħuman 11:19, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

I know, but unless we get some advance from some publisher (I tried one in Poland, "Znak", with zero result so far) we have to do it totally on our own. Counting on recovering our expenses when the book starts selling. Is the form 50/50 for profit splitting OK, or you have other ideas? You may realize that with my knowledge of language (also in Polish, I remind you) all verbal work must be yours which might be even tougher then. I can deliver only the knowledge of gravitation (and some common sense if one of us gets carried away for some reason). JimJast (talk) 07:20, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

50/50 is fine with me, it's the modern business model. Meaning first you must write book, then I will Anglicize it. Still I would prefer a publisher to be on line to kick in some cash up front. ħuman 08:32, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Hu, I'd prefer too have a publisher to kick in some cash up front. We agree here but it is not so simple, I'm afraid:

1. I don't know about your literary achivements but I'm completely nobody, also scientifically (as you may read in my user:JimJast description) with whom any publisher would want to deal especially to give him money to write a book on gravitation. We have to rely primerly on ourselves (if you still think it is worthwhile).
2. There are no textbooks on Einsteinian gravitation or any real gravitation yet, and so it can't be taught in high schools. On one hand it is good, since there is no competition yet, but also bad since there are no standards againt which we may be evaluated as "superior scholars". I'm kidding but only a little. Nobody knows such standards and so neither you do. You have to ask me a lot of quesions to establish that I'm not another crank from whom you need to steer away but that what I say has to it some merit.
3. Only after establishing some mutual trust we may cooperate without being afraid that we are getting ourself in some mess via lack of information on how the gravitation really works.
4. I don't believe I'm expressing myself clearly enough to be understood that there is yet no clear description of how the universe works that astrophysicists, as well as high school students, might use. Gravitation was so much abused by creationists that it needs close to a generation to recover. That's why this textbook is needed. To get rid of the remnants of "creationist physics" (the Big Bang) and restore back the principle of conservation of energy and true physics in which energy can't be created (or the universe expanding, which can't be done without creation of energy from nothing).

So please just start asking me questions and we see whether our characters are such that we could cooperate writing this textbook. Then we work on the details. And could you recommend somebody else if you resign this work? JimJast (talk) 16:37, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Nutrition

Hey, I remember that you're a doctor (forgive me if I'm wrong on that point), and was wondering if you could either give me some advice, or suggest a place I could get good advice on this subject. Basically, I really want to lose some weight, and a friend of mine told me that fiber and protein kills appetite, and is trying to convince me to start drinking energy shakes. But, I've heard REALLY bad things about energy shakes (kidney stones, blood clots...). Honestly, part of me is tempted to just drink metamucil for the fiber and forget about the protein. Would that actually work?--Mustex (talk) 15:03, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, first off, I am most definitely not a doctor. I am not even a master. But losing weight... well, you know, they say there are two sure ways to do so: diet and exercise. So if there are foods you like that are low in calories and high in bulk (i.e. veggies), eat more of them. Avoid fatty foods if you can. That cuts the intake a bit, and is likely also a healthy diet. "Exercise" means moving parts of your body around, ideally against resistance (like gravity) on a regular basis. It burns calories, tones your muscles, and some people claim it even gets you high. Mountain climbers, mostly. ħuman 06:25, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Also, I forgot - try to avoid foods that make you fart uncontrollably, since those will lose you friends. Also foods that make you burp stomach acid up into your esophagus should be minimized - not avoided, but minimized. ħuman 08:34, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I must have you mixed up with another user. Sorry to bug you!--76.18.115.64 (talk) 20:54, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

PalMD is our resident doc, but he don't come by too often...P-Foster (talk) 21:07, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

How?

Hey Human, I've just come back from one of my many stretches of having disappeared, and saw the horrible news.... How exactly is it that we found out about Susan? Do we know what happened? Pinto's5150 ^Talk 01:03, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

We found out from her neighbor, who verified it in an e-mail to P-Foster. Apparently, she was succumbed by cancer. The Goonie 1 ^{What's this button do? Uh oh....} 02:23, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Who was Susan?

Hu, I just learned about Susan (what did I learn? that she's gone) and since I'm trying to get into your community's internal life I'm curious. Could you let me in, or you're not in mood at such grave moment? JimJast (talk) 05:59, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

SusanG was a long time editor here. She operated under the usernames user:SusanG and user:Toast. She was known for being extremely opinionated, especially with regards to religion, and she didn't suffer fools lightly. She had a quick turn of phrase and was not afraid of offending people she disagreed with. I wouldn't say that she was universally liked, although she was relatively popular and those of us who knew her in the early days miss her. Check out this for more info. --Damo^Hi 06:27, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi Human

There seems to be some blah on my talk page about me being a sysop, which I refuse to dignify with a response (I'll only play into their hands so they can go 'LOOK! HE IS TROLLING AGAIN! WHERE IS MY MOMMY???') So instead of participating in the HCM that they themselves have created, would you please consider restoring my sysop rights along with taking me out of the vandal bin (Tom Moore seems to have went out of his way to be a pompous prick lately) MarcusCicero (talk) 10:28, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey Marcus, although I appreciate your call to me, I am too inactive these days to be sure of how to act. I will, however, remove you from the VB (if I can figure out how). ħuman 02:59, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Sterile

I'm sorry, I keep forgetting that you can unilaterally bureaucratize and debureaucratize whoever you want without warning. That's the RW history I'm familiar with. Blue (is useful) 03:32, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Human, it seems you have confused the bureaucrat policy with the sysop policy. ListenerX^TalkerX 04:09, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

What policy? Sterile outranks both of you, by years, so go crawl into your respective holes. ħuman 05:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Sigh. This is why we can't have nice things. I'm going to have to start a discussion at either the Coop or Community Standards now. I don't know when you're going to realize that you are not the God-King of RationalWiki, but that delusion has been rather stubbornly fixed. Blue (pester) 05:39, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

MarcusCicero also outranks Blue and me in the sense of having a join date prior to ours; this is why using seniority for such matters is not a good approach. ListenerX^TalkerX 05:50, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

As it appears that only custom was breached, but not policy, I have put up a proposal to change the community standards on this point. ListenerX^TalkerX 06:59, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Let's make a deal, Human. Demote me and I'll vote to save your ass. nobs^{don't bother me} 04:42, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I like you human

I hope you dont get decratted Human. <3 Alyssa Bryant (talk) 16:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Who are these people?

I look at Recent Changes, and it's a different menagerie. Oh, well. Such is life. sterile^talk 01:16, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

It's the same seven people using 49 new socks, dude. How ya been? ħuman 05:23, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

It's been a rough year because of work and stress, but otherwise I'm OK. I'm glad this cold winter's over. sterile^talk 12:43, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Having work is good, stress not so much. It wasn't that cold here, I don't think it ever went below zero F, but there was a fair amount of snow (150% of average, by my records), and it all fell at once (100% of average in January) so everybody bitched about it. I just wish it was warm enough out to open my damn windows every day. But Spring is springing in with a vengeance. Nice to see you around! ħuman 03:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Apprently I'm an unknown quantity. Pfffft. Kids these days. sterile^talk

Only to those with no knowledge. ħuman 03:06, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Wow. They got out the pitchforks and torches over you. sterile^talk 15:24, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

You disappoint me

I remember talking you out of a strop to persuade you to stand for the LJ because I honestly believed you had something useful to say. I suppose I should thank you for teaching me just how wrong I can be. Thanks for that. It turns out you don't have anything useful to say, and you seem intent on stopping anybody else from so doing. You're a waste of space. –SuspectedReplicant retire me 03:31, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Human, talk-page comments are not to be removed. ListenerX^TalkerX 04:11, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Just archive the entire page. That's allowed, so if users insist on you using a loophole, then it's open for you to use it.--Danielfolsom (talk) 04:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

LX, you are wrong. Personal attacks are allowed to be removed and not archived at the user's discretion. I consider "You're a waste of space" to be a personal attack. ħuman 18:46, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

unprecedented levels of butthurt. 174.255.68.227 (talk) 18:53, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Human, I very much doubt that the "spirit" of any of our policies condones the removal of a remark by a long-time, non-troll editor, personal attack or not. As to the "letter" of the policies, the community standards page says that "No deletion of talk page material is permitted." Where is there an exception to that? ListenerX^TalkerX 05:33, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Lx- could you revert Blue here? At 4:11 9 May she removed a comment RobSmith posted. Afterall you wouldn't want to give the impression that you were arbitrarily picking on Human by selectively enforcing a policy while simultaneously attempting to de-crat him.--Danielfolsom (talk) 05:44, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Blue did here, too. That's why I changed my vote. nobs^{don't bother me} 05:52, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Did somebody say Draco Malfoy?

Ah, there actually is precedent for removing trolling, so one could say Human was in the clear. See the Loya Jirga decision on the matter. And that was an accident at the Coop, Rob. Blue (is useful) 05:54, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Gracias Blue! Just to be clear I'm not criticizing you by the post - in fact I did the same thing (I reverted a user who reverted human's removal of the comment). I'm just pointing out that LX is picking on Human.--Danielfolsom (talk) 05:56, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I apologize, Blue. I overreacted. FWW I agree, mob rule has outrlived its usefulness. nobs^{don't bother me} 06:01, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

It would appear that speculation on my motives seems to have stopped anyone but Blue from actually answering my question. The Loya Jirga decision came down when I was on wikibreak and I missed it altogether; apologies for the confusion, Human. ListenerX^TalkerX 06:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

No blood, no foul. It's only a wiki, after all. ħuman 06:28, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

(Undent). Well unless you think Blue adequately answered your question you have to revert him in the links provided. I'd also point out that once again you're confusing the definition of guideline and rule. You don't try to force someone to live up to a guideline by punishing them when they don't. From the top of the page that you linked: "These are the guidelines defined by the RationalWiki community. These are not site rules but rather a list of standards we as a community try to live up to. Please do your best to live up to them."--Danielfolsom (talk) 06:21, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Blue answered my question. ListenerX^TalkerX 06:29, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Oop I missed the end of your post acknowledging as much. My apologies--Danielfolsom (talk) 06:34, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

You've been unblocked

You.ve been unblocked at CP. [7] Hell, if they strip you of user rights here, you're always welcome at CP. nobs^{don't bother me} 04:55, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm still 403'd though. And thank you for your valiant efforts. ħuman 05:04, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Please, avoid sockpuppetry. There would be nothing I could do about that. You looked like a fairly acvtive mainspace contributor, so I hope you continue as such. Building online communities is all about making relationships work. I thought you we incredibly civil during our, ahhmm, dispute at WP last year. Let's keep that tone & professionalism. Gracias. nobs^{don't bother me} 19:28, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

The only sockpuppet I ever had on CP was Nadhob, who Bohdan promptly blocked. And that was just in fun anyway. Just let me know when my neighborhood is allowed to look at CP, thanks. ħuman 02:37, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Mr. Human

Check your email box. DMorris2 (talk) 12:33, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Nice

You are such a nice person, it's so good to have you around. -- Nx / talk 07:29, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

The first two links make me look like a decent person. The latter two make me look like a sane person responding to a totally irrational coup in an angry way. By the way, have you apologized for using server access as an important tech guy to play site politics yet? PS, what prompted this message? And why are you obsessively tracking my edits? ħuman 07:33, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

You were the only one editing, moron. And the first two links make you look like an asshole.

Loser

So you can dish it out but you can't take it? You really are a filthy hypocrite.

Unsigned by who? ħuman 07:51, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

"We welcome dispute and struggle to not censor those called fools or trolls. "

You said it. Now do it. - unsig who?

Censor what? ħuman 07:50, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Human&diff=790624&oldid=790623 -- Nx / talk 07:51, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Nx, you are really being a complete asshole, and I don't know why. Users have the right to remove personal attacks from their talk pages. Now get over yourself. ħuman 07:52, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

"We welcome dispute and struggle to not censor those called fools or trolls. " You said it. Now do it. Some guy calling you a chubby little loser on the internet is too scary for you? 80.237.226.76 (talk) 07:55, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Funny, you have no problem with personal attacks, unless they're directed at you. Hypocrite. -- Nx / talk 07:55, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

I was quoting Trent, basically. PS, hacked the server lately to promote your site politics? ħuman 08:07, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Message to uber troll Nx: Any further posts by you to my talk page that are content-free as the latest ones have been will be deleted without comment. Please go to your room and stop attacking me with your ugly hate messages. ħuman 08:08, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

The truth hurts

I thought someone like you would have thicker skin. Hypocrite. -- Nx / talk 08:14, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Fuck off, can't you read? I am far beyond being sick of your endless personal attacks. ħuman 02:41, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Pointing out that you are not a very nice person for saying things like "you are a lesser form of life than [a troll]. We don't even have a word for it" is not a personal attack. Neither is pointing out that you are a hypocrite for supporting MC, who throws around personal attacks all the time, and making personal attacks all the time as well, and yet crying like a little baby when someone criticizes you. Calling other people's comments garbage and calling them trolls is a personal attack. PS, talk pages suck, you should use LQT. -- Nx / talk 06:16, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

On my talk page I am allowed to delete it. So are you, if you want. So is anyone. I got really tired of you just attacking me anywhere I post anything for the last six months. LQT sucks, it does not interface with MW properly yet. Call me back when it's in beta. ħuman 06:21, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

"A user's talk page, like any other talk page on the site, is public and does not belong to the user. However, users are permitted to delete posts containing personal attacks or trolling from their own talk pages, being responsible for any abuse of this permission." And it's in beta -- Nx / talk 06:29, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

The LJ made one decision in their short term and it is what I am quoting. Your lack of knowledge does not excuse your ignorance of the site's rules. See Lx discovering the same thing a week ago here when some other ass spewed all over my page. It's in the most recent archive now, I think. EDIT: yes, that's what I was doing. Funny how nobody lets me do it though. Let me know when it's in delta, then, since the beta is obviously a failure at merging with MW. ħuman 07:31, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Maybe that's because they disagree with you calling everything a personal attack and abusing the LJ decision to silence criticism. -- Nx / talk 07:40, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Will you please now fuck off? I asked you to stop trolling my user page with endless insults and attacks, and strangely enough you don't stop, you leave me a new orange box every time I save a mainspace edit. Nx I say this again: I do not like you, I consider you to be impossible to work with, and any edit you make to my talk page, as far as I can tell, is trash. And I will be archiving this after saving it. ħuman 07:42, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Removal of red links

Dear Human,

I hope recent events worked out the way you wanted. I voted for you.

You are no doubt aware of my campaign to rid RationalWiki of red links. This communication concerns the four red links to "New Gwenson," three of which are on talk pages and one on an archived user talk page. I noticed that the redirect to Fun:New Gwenson was previously deleted.

I would like to ask your blessing to restore the redirect to the fun page, as I believe that due to their nature it is the only way to address these red links. Otherwise could you please offer me an alternate strategy.

Thank you for your time.

zieber (talk) 19:24, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Either restore the redirect - or change the links to point directly to F:NG, which would actually be better. I think we are the only site on all the tubez that actually kept the NG spam. That's because we are awesome. ħuman 01:57, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey there ol' timer

How's the trial going? Wanna come sit on my back porch and sink a few boilermakers while predicting rain as our various physical maladies begin playing up? Ace ^{of Spades} 02:17, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

My innocence will be regarded by some as "past transgressions". Would love to. You skyping? ħuman 02:19, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Not skyping at the moment sorry. My wireless is playing so can't skype and busy myself with various chores in the kitchen. Got some time next week though if you about? Ace ^{of Spades} 02:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Surely I will be at some point, it's been a long time. Was just obsessively editing my favorite template (portal portal). Now I need to smack some noob upside the head and quaff a few tasty ones with old friends. The kitchen calls here, also. Nachos, I think. ħuman 02:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Blank section title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AzLgswmJxA ^{— Unsigned, by: Pink / talk / contribs}

• Yah got an executive summary for that one? I thought it was gonna be David Bowie, but it was on 33 and I couldn't make it run at 45... ħuman 02:40, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

33? 45? Pink_{(Is a perfectly acceptable colour)} 02:47, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Pfft, kids. I had a Nash the Slash album that was designed for play at 33, 45 AND 78! --Kels (talk) 02:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Too damn slow to get to any point, speed it up by 50% might be interesting. And way to much reverb on the canned miming. So my question: what does it say? (post EC) I have a 7" single, one side plays at 33 and the other at 45. All techno can be played at any speed - 16 for heroin, 33 for pot, 45 for X, 78 for meth. ħuman 02:53, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I just love the chord changes. I don't really care about the speed or the reverb; I think it works that way. And I have no idea what it says. Sorry! Pink_{(Is a perfectly acceptable colour)} 02:59, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Here's a cool one, Shadowy Men On a Shadowy Planet (you'd know them from the Kids In the Hall theme, aka "Having An Average Weekend"), used to put out their stuff on 45's, but play them at 33, so the could cram three songs on a side. --Kels (talk) 02:57, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Also, I had a player that would do all four speeds, pretty unusual by that point. --Kels (talk) 02:58, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't know KitH from a hole in the ground, but surely you mean they pressed their records on 7" vinyl intended to be played at 45? They aren't 45s so much as 7". So small EPs, really? I had a CD player that died by playing the CD backwards. ħuman 03:01, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Everybody and their dog in those days called 7" records "45's" or "singles", at least 'round where I was. So the slang sorta stuck with me. Heck, I still call a release an "album". But yeah, it was damn clever. Almost as much clever as this little darling, which had three separate grooves cut into Side 4, with each of the artists getting their own. You'd probably like Shadowy Men, they used to do these great guitar-driven surf style instrumentals, like this one. --Kels (talk) 03:08, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I think MP, and perhaps FT, both did the multiple groove thing. Lemme check that vid, sounds like fun! ħuman 03:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Python did, I think it was "Matching Tie and Handkerchief". But I've never seen three grooves outside this one, it's normally only two. But throw Laurie Anderson and William S. Burroughs into the mix and I'm sold. --Kels (talk) 03:16, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Indeed. Liked the surf tune. ħuman 03:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

This section does not have a title either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3vxEudif8 ^{— Unsigned, by: Pink / talk / contribs}

Nice! Nice follow up. ħuman 04:32, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

"Time may change me, but I can't change time" ħuman 04:33, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, nice pointed stick in those lyrics! Excellent, well done! ħuman 04:34, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I was going to chose "Breaking Glass", and then "Five Years", and then "All You Pretty Things", but I rejected them all because I thought the lyrics would seem like a jibe. So yeah, I make excellent choices! However, I'm going to chalk this up as a problem on David Bowies' end. He is too relevant. Pink_{(Is a perfectly acceptable colour)} 04:41, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, we can't blame him for being a genius. It's not his fault. When I posted Virginia Plain on my thingie at the Coop I was amazed at how well the lyrics fit, and all I wanted to do was add a cool tune. ħuman 04:47, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

It's amazing how often that happens. Even that Low song I posted had lines that sounded like the song was about recent events at RW ("too many words, too many words..."). We'll have to go really abstract next time. Time to dig out the Stockhausen. Pink_{(Is a perfectly acceptable colour)} 04:54, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Or Kraftwerk; or Ultravox. ħuman 04:56, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

It means nothing to me. Totnesmartin (talk) 09:04, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Ah, Vienna. Fuck, I miss Susan. Thanks for reopening that gaping hole in my life ;) ħuman 09:10, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

random comment (sticky)

It's so easy to make 100 edits a day... any ADHD sufferer can do it, uselessly. Or any bored middle-aged single guy can. Hopefully usefully. ħuman 06:27, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

International Feliday

Come and join the celebration of, among other things, the rusty spotted cat. All at the Saloon Bar nearest you. Cheers, my friend! AnarchoGoon ^{Swatting Assflys is how I earn my living} 06:12, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Felidae is the best of all days! Where is Arthur, our loyal and trussworthy butler? Oh, gone to bed ours ago... oh well. ħuman 07:37, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Assuming he lives in the United States, there is still (at least) 20 and a half ours left of Felidae. So he still has time to show up. Lord of the Goons ^{The official spikey-haired skeptical punk} 07:38, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Unless he moved, he lives in some shithole town in northern Missouri. I don't think that is giving away personal information. And even if his bedtime got advanced with age, I doubt "3:30 AM (CST)" is cool with the 'rents yet. ħuman 08:36, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Happy Night of the Blunt Knives

It seems like just yesterday. sterile^talk 16:13, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Susan

I'm shocked to learn about Susan. Is there an article or obit elsewhere? Thanks. --UnicornTapestry (talk) 23:24, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Not really, no, though I did pop out a bit of an eulogy late Sat night on FB while playing "Vienna" really loud. So sad. ħuman 01:19, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes. I'm really in shock. Thanks, H. --UnicornTapestry (talk) 01:24, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I think a tribute of really aggressive cheese is appropriate, but I may be biased in that regard. --Kels (talk) 01:25, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Shall we set up a tribute room to her at the party this weekend, then archive it specially in its own place? ħuman 01:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

It's just a crying shame I can't make it to the cheese shop IRL this week, is all. But that sounds like a capital idea. --Kels (talk) 01:38, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

From what I've heard the place is fairly clean, at least in terms of being uncontaminated by cheesey comestibles. I will try to find some nice drapes - and kitty or two - do we have pictures of her kitties? And I think she liked Ardbegh (sp?), too. ħuman 01:40, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm not a party-goer, but something so a little bit of her lives on in the intertubes. Great idea, H. --UnicornTapestry (talk) 12:51, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your nomination

I believe I stand a good chance of election. I hope to be the consensus voice of traditional rationalwikian values. In order not to splinter the vote I ask that you, and some others of like mind, step aside and endorse me. If the new moderator system is to be elected I would hope to be one of those elected to office, and as long as I hold elected position I will be able to influence blocking policy so that site critics and dissidents will still be allowed a clear and coherent voice. What do you think of this proposal? We could galvanise all of the traditional voices, all of those sickened and disgusted by this site's slide into wikipedian mediocrity, and we could really fire a volley against the system! MarcusCicero (talk) 20:54, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

It was there before, and someone removed it - an unconscionable act. You're welcome, I only did what was right, I think. ħuman 03:32, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Message to Nx (sticky)

You are not welcome here. Any edits you make will be reverted when I see them. This is a result of your constant attacks on me. ħuman 08:17, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't edit my talk page!

Wow, who died and made you TK? PsyGremlinTal! 08:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

We have an agreed upon right to remove personal attacks from our talk pages. Upon repeated such edits, I think requesting that the poster stay away is reasonable. Who died and made you in charge of who can an attack people on their talk pages? Considering how odious TK is/was, I should really just delete your insult, too, but I'll let it ride until the pre-party archiving. ħuman 02:39, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Can't we all just get alo...oh, skip it. Aboriginal Noise ^{Theist, barely hanging by a nail} 02:42, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

That would be nice, yes. ħuman 02:46, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey vermin

What do you think of the single transferable vote?Mark Antony (talk) 07:14, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Is that like where you get one vote that gets moved from losing candidates to your second, third, etc. choice? That I like. But I may not know what STV is. ħuman 07:29, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

"endless insults and attacks"

You owe me an irony meter. -- Nx / talk 07:47, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Please do show me which of my edits to your talk pages were attacks and insults. I can show you plenty of yours. -- Nx / talk 08:04, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Now you make no sense. I deleted the attacks, which you constantly reverted. What attacks are you offering to show me that couldn't be reverted? ħuman 05:18, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Run coward

What do you think of Donald Trump's chances in the primaries? I do not think he will win. Mark Antony (talk) 07:47, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Me neither. Fifth place in NH at best. He'll drop out long before that happens. ħuman 07:50, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry

I wasn't aware your experiences on the Appalachian trail traumatized you that deeply. I apologise Mark Antony (talk) 08:02, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I fail to see how my apology is a personal attack

Let us not make war. Come. Let us be blood brothers. Mark Antony (talk) 08:06, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad you agree. I want you to know I don't think you're a filthy coward. Mark Antony (talk) 08:26, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I do think you should be dipped in tar and rolled around in a vat of feathers, but that's just one of those things. Nothing personal. Mark Antony (talk) 08:30, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey now

Please let's not do this. Mark Antony (talk) 08:35, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I've been very polite. Please handle this constructively. Mark Antony (talk) 08:41, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh fuck off. This place (your talk page) is a cancer. What did I do, you little worm? Piss in your fucking cornflakes or something?

Nothing better to do? Mark Antony (talk) 03:18, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh hey, and if you're saying you're not the guy who made this edit, i guess we should run him off, huh? Mark Antony (talk) 03:33, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

So now what you think I do elsewhere on internet hate sites is suddenly worthwhile to discuss here? Bring it up there, you dumb fuck. It is not RW. ħuman 03:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Are you still a 'crat?

Could you reinstate my 'cratship, if so? Thanks, bro. P-Foster (talk) 04:03, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Apparently I am, yes. ħuman 04:14, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Who rocks? Huw rocks. P-Foster (talk) 04:20, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Huw's on first? --Eira ^{OMTG! _{The Goat be Praised.}} 06:39, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

I Dunno. 06:44, 23 May 2011 (UTC) C®ackeЯ

3rd Bass! Woooo! Aboriginal Noise ^{Theist, barely hanging by a nail} 00:56, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

You guys make me smile with your silliness :) ħuman 01:04, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

We may be going through some trying times as a community, but damn if we don't have some semblance of a sense of humor. Aboriginal Noise ^{Theist, barely hanging by a nail} 01:15, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Glad to see you around, by the way. <-- Mawkish sentimentalism. ħuman 01:20, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Not sure how to take the mawkishness (it may not mean what I think it means), but it's good to be around. Aboriginal Noise ^{Theist, barely hanging by a nail} 02:31, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I spending too much time of late in mourning, that's all, and it is nice to see long-remembered people around this dump. ħuman 02:43, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Please forgive the intrusion, but user subpages do not belong in mainspace categories (this template adds a category...)

Unless it's the user page of Human, the most important person on this wiki. -- Nx / talk 04:32, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Fuck off, asshole attack dog. Why not link to my user page as it is? ħuman 04:35, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I'll take that as an admission that you were wrong to revert me, and once you revert your user page to its previous state, I'll be editing it to remove it from the various categories that are meant for mainspace articles. -- Nx / talk 06:34, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Um... "user subpages" does not equal "userpages" ... --Eira ^{OMTG! _{The Goat be Praised.}} 04:37, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, so you're saying that it's okay to spam your userpage into various categories, but not user subpages? -- Nx / talk 06:34, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I didn't say that. But if you're trying to make human eat his words you should ensure that human is actually doing what he was complaining about... --Eira ^{OMTG! _{The Goat be Praised.}} 07:06, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why user subpages should be treated any different than userpages in this case, but you seem to be implying that they should be. -- Nx / talk 07:17, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm not implying anything... human's words were constrained strictly to user subpages, and you extrapolated that to userpages just to rag on human. zomg, I go and point out that you're making his words mean something that they never said, and you jump down my throat over suggesting that you should take human at his word, rather than stuffing straw in his mouth. --Eira ^{OMTG! _{The Goat be Praised.}} 07:29, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

What is the difference between a user page and a user subpage? -- Nx / talk 07:39, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

You mean, you can't figure out the difference? Or why should such difference make any difference to the policy? --Eira ^{OMTG! _{The Goat be Praised.}} 07:42, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

The latter, obviously. -- Nx / talk 07:50, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I have no idea... I didn't suggest the policy. --Eira ^{OMTG! _{The Goat be Praised.}} 07:51, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Right. Why are you wasting my time then? -- Nx / talk 07:56, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Because you are wrong on the basis of the facts on the ground. ħuman 08:08, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Please explain how I am wrong. Why is it okay for you to spam your user page into various mainspace categories, but not ok for a draft article in userspace to be in a mainspace category? Actually it wasn't even in userspace, and Brxbrx only added the template and thus the category after moving it to mainspace, but let's ignore that. -- Nx / talk 08:23, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Why am I wasting your time? Because I'm a fucking pedantic bitch, and you're attempting to hold human accountable to something he said with something that does not fit with what he said. It's like he said "I don't like onions" and you point out that he commented that he likes shallots, to which I point out "shallots aren't onions" to which you respond "they're both of the genus 'allium', so what's the difference?" The difference is: shallots aren't onions. So trying to hold him to some sort of irony or hypocrisy fails. --Eira ^{OMTG! _{The Goat be Praised.}} 14:53, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

So why don't you explain to me why the difference between userpages and user subpages matters in this case? -- Nx / talk 16:42, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Because it's not my argument, so I can't explain details that haven't been explain to me either. --Eira ^{OMTG! _{The Goat be Praised.}} 00:59, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

N(idiot)x, let me explain. User wrote article in their sandbox. Was linked from their user page to a subpage. A sandbox probably shouldn't be catted yet since it is, well, a sandbox. I missed that it was redirected to mainspace. The user has since added a note to indicate such. All is better now, except for your attitude problem. ħuman 05:21, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

So, are you saying it is okay to put your userpage into various mainspace categories? -- Nx / talk 05:31, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

ListenerX^TalkerX 05:52, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Nx, you fail at comprehension. Have you looked at my user page lately? ħuman 06:09, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

It would be nice if you could answer my questions directly. Yes, I have, but it is not clear if you removed it from those categories intentionally or just as a side effect of blanking your page and replacing it with a short message. -- Nx / talk 06:13, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

How about "it's none of your damn business you busybody who has to interfere in everything I do here"? What questions? Do whatever busybodies like you do when they go away. And then fuck off and die. ħuman 06:25, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

My question was, is it okay to put your userpage into a mainspace category? It is my business because that affects categories as well, not just your userpage. -- Nx / talk 06:29, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

That question doesn't even make sense. Just like this intrusion/attack on me just because I made an edit. Here's a good idea, Nx. Fuck off. Go away. Leave me alone. Leave my talk page alone. You are adding nothing to this wiki with your edits. Bye bye. I already asked you to leave my talk page the fuck alone, yet you and your socks insist on raising empty issues here. Nx, you are not welcome on my talk page, since you bring no value of any kind. Now kindly do gently fondle yourself. You are not welcome here. Your comments are useless at best and antagonistic and stalking at worst. GO AWAY. ħuman 06:36, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘My question makes sense. Also, didn't you say that filthy language and insults make your point weaker? -- Nx / talk 06:43, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

ListenerX^TalkerX 06:50, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Human, just ignore it. This is just Nx "Pissing in [RW] until I get bored". Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 08:35, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I think the cat "needs goat" should be on lots of user pages. sterile^talk 16:40, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Wēāŝēīōīď^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 17:48, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Is your goal..

...to piss everyone off? Where'd you learn how to write English? Starting a sentence with "98%..." looks bad. It looks bad when my students do it and it looks bad when someone with too big of an ego here does it to. So knock it the fuck off. king of the rats ^{do you wanna kick it in the backseat?} 11:18, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

You didn't care to debate your changes last time and now you appear to rather be a complete prick and revert my changes again. One other small thing, "Unusally for an educator...." sounds stupid as hell. Make like andy and read some real texts. king of the rats ^{do you wanna kick it in the backseat?} 11:22, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Some reading standards indicate that all numbers ten or less should be written out, while all numbers larger than ten be written as numbers. Writing out "Ninety-eight percent" seems odd to me... but then the whole sentence seems backwards for me... here, rather than explain, I'll just go in and make the change, and you can see if it makes it any better. --Eira ^{OMTG! _{The Goat be Praised.}} 11:43, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Bleh... reading that paragraph is like eating a glue sandwich... bland, and difficult to digest... I think it needs more than just the band-aid that I put on it... --Eira ^{OMTG! _{The Goat be Praised.}} 11:52, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Exception to the "writing out numbers rule" -- if a sentence begins with a number, write it out: "Ninety-eight percent of Eira's edits are brilliant." "Ninety-sixty-seven was a good year for prunes." P-Foster (talk) 13:00, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I think the year 9067 is still a bit of a ways off and no one can particularly make any meaningful remark about the quality of the prunes produced that year... also, the other "fact" is clearly false, and libelous. --Eira ^{OMTG! _{The Goat be Praised.}} 13:09, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

That's actually an interesting question - will the progress in prune technology outweigh possible damages to the ecosystem in seven thousand years? *taps chin in thought* --Sid (talk) 13:16, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Glad you guys figured this all out. Rationalize, why the filthy language to ask a simple question, and insults to follow? It makes your points weaker. I learned that if a number takes more than two words, use numerals. ħuman 04:01, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

You should be asking yourself that question. -- Nx / talk 06:35, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Nx, why must you intrude your useless and obnoxious self in every thread that involves me? ħuman 05:19, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Do Not Revert or undo my changes again. Especially if you're going to add some bullshit commentary like "not improvements, really." Really human. king of the rats ^{do you wanna kick it in the backseat?} 21:40, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Rationalize, your approach to this discussion was offensive to start with. And, guess, what, they weren't improvements. Sorry if I crossed your idea of how to write the wrong way. ħuman 03:44, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Obviously it was offensive. I deal with bullies all the time and you're no exception. Since I have the luxury of anonymity as well as not at risk of losing my job here, I will just say that 1. They were improvements and I'm sorry you don't know better and 2. you're a pain in the ass and as helpful here as TK was at CP. Now promote me like you did Blue over a disagreement.... Wait, you can't anymore, lol! king of the rats ^{do you wanna kick it in the backseat?} 22:40, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Without weighing in on the dickswinging contest here, I'll just note how hilarious it is to see you invoking TK while in the same post gloating just like him. --Sid (talk) 22:51, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Even more hilariously, you're also mistaken. --Sid (talk) 22:57, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

my article

Did you access it from my userpage? Cuz I've a redirect in my userspace for that article. Do you not believe it to be up to par? Could you please offer feedback and ways I could include it? Thank you.--User:Brxbrx/sig 04:28, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I edited it because it is in userspace. Put it in mainspace and others can improve it and the template can be uncommented. I have no idea what "redirect" you are talking about. I clicked on a link on your "userpage", such as it is. ħuman 04:34, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

If it got moved you might want to update your userpage. ħuman 04:36, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Or, you could like... try looking to see if you've been redirected... --Eira ^{OMTG! _{The Goat be Praised.}} 04:38, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

it appears this was just a silly misunderstanding. I left the redirect in my user page to attribute me as the original author (mostly in case I need to rebuff someone that claims I'm worthless. Vanity, I know. I did it back on ED, too). I will specify that the article is now in mainspace.--User:Brxbrx/sig 04:42, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see now that the mud is out of my eyes. Um, wait, you mean that junk was in the mainspace? I try to copyedit now... Allcaps? ħuman 04:43, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

well now my self-esteem is lower... oh well, have at it. --User:Brxbrx/sig 04:46, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Be glad that he thought it was in your user space and didn't delete it immediately. -- Nx / talk 06:36, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

You're a complete asshole, you know that? When I saw it was in main, guess what I did? Copyedited it. It's not that bad of an article, though it could use some more flesh. ħuman 08:10, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

You're a complete asshole You owe me another irony meter -- Nx / talk 08:19, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

No, just another punch in the nose. ħuman 05:17, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

It's a structure, at least. I'm sure much of it is salvageable. But RW is not ED. The sense of humor is different. Please take some time to learn your way around before trying to run the place. PS, your user page is an embarrassment. ħuman 04:48, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Also, please try to use complete sentences when writing articles, if you can. It makes the proofreading easier. ħuman 05:08, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Are you following me?

Found this about a block away from my crib; are you in town? We should have a beer. P-Foster (talk) 03:00, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Indeed! But, no, sadly, I am not in your town. That was an imposter! ħuman 05:18, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

It was me. I'm a sock of Human, after all. The Symphony of Noise ^{The official spikey-haired skeptical punk} 05:54, 29 May 2011 (UTC)