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Human, old boy[edit]

Since you know that I am really a sock of Bohdan my secret identity, and since I know convention around here is that asking to be demoted usually means your are unworthy of the privilege, can you do me a favor? I would like it if I was not demoted to a sysop, that way I can not use any powers that sysops have (such as a mop and/or bucket) for things sysops around here do. If you'd be willing to do this for me, that'd be a grand time indeed. Old guard (talk) 03:33, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

I hadn't even thought twice about burdening you with such a lowly, demeaning set of chores around here, not-Bohdan, or not-whoever-else-you-aren't.
Of course, I can't really prevent any of these other fine citizens, both naturalized and natural-born, from sticking you with the Charlie work.
Is there a special way I can flag your account so others will think twice before doing it, and then do it anyway? ħumanUser talk:Human 03:46, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
No, I'm afraid somebody else decided to demote me, unfortunately. So it looks like I'll get to work scrubbing toilets at my leisure. Old guard (talk) 03:48, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
I'll see you in the scullery forthwith, then. ħumanUser talk:Human 03:53, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Frank Zappa[edit]

ur artikl Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 01:02, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

"My" article? Thanks for the heads up. ħumanUser talk:Human 04:16, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Your opinion greatly needed[edit]

Your professional judgement as a moderator is needed here. If you are unaware of the background of this case, please read the whole thing first. Thank you for your time. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 23:21, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

I knew of it, but thank you for your concern. ħumanUser talk:Human 19:38, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Are you hosting the "So Long Nino" Party, or what?[edit]

As above. 02:50, 14 February 2016 (UTC) C®ackeЯ

I just realized that this is not about the weather. Pull up an abortion and sit a spell! ħumanUser talk:Human 03:02, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Resident busybody[edit]

Sans the "poor judgement", that's almost a compliment. 32℉uzzy; 0℃atPotato (talk/stalk) 04:34, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

It wasn't intended to be... ħumanUser talk:Human 01:32, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Bernie Sanders userbox[edit]

You said you #FeelTheBern at the saloon. So why you don't declare your political preference in an userbox? "And voted my support today. I was planning on voting for tRump in the GOP primary (we have open primaries here in NH) if Hillary was unopposed, just for the entertainment value, but then Senator Sanders announced. I've been following this guy for about three decades and he is the real thing. Feeling the Bern in NH!(emphasis by me) ħumanUser talk:Human 04:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)" --Bigic (talk) 17:49, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Why? Nobody reads those things anyway. ħumanUser talk:Human 01:33, 18 February 2016 (UTC)


Would you please tell your fellow rationalwikian to stop making fun of cheerleaders at wikipedia, that's mean of him. Cheerleaders Are Sweethearts (talk) 03:31, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

I have no control over their activities, either on- or off-site. Perhaps cheerleaders are inherently funny? ħumanUser talk:Human 23:31, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps cheerleaders are inherently funny? Dick. Defender of the Damsels in Distress (talk) 23:23, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Are you denying the possibility? ħumanUser talk:Human 23:04, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Nomination for RationalMedia board election[edit]

You've been nominated to the RationalMedia Foundation election. Please accept or decline here; if you accept, you may wish to campaign. FuzzyCatPotato of the Emancipated Hub caps (talk/stalk) 18:55, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. ħumanUser talk:Human 21:28, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Hawking Radiation[edit]

Fellow human! Since you are interested in physics pages, I would like to ask for you opinion on this matter. I think that that article should be merged into Stephen Hawking's page, perhaps with its own section. What do you think?

(I'm not the person you asked this to but happened to see you post a section named "Hawking Radiation" in RC so thought I'd reply anyway.) Tbh it can probably be merged; Hawking radiation is not particularly relevant to RW's mission if you'd ask me (though black holes in general are relatively seewhatididthere? important because of the woo surrounding them).--JorisEnter (talk) 00:08, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
No, you aren't, are you? Do you do this sort of thing all the time? ħumanUser talk:Human 04:48, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
@JorisEnter: I see what you did there. LOL! Nerd (talk) 00:23, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
Just tossing my hat in to agree with Joris - using a wpl link to Hawking Radiation when and if we need it (e.g. when debunking black hole woo) is more than enough. Actually covering Hawking Radiation is not missional, nor something we'd want (because when we try to ape encyclopedic articles, they become like really crappy encyclopedic articles, because RW isn't actually an encyclopedia). All the best, Reverend Black Percy (talk) 02:01, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
I gave a quick description of Hawking radiation in his own page and linked it to the Wikipedia article. That should be enough, unless some cranks get creative. By the way, I have run into a number of RW physics pages that I think should be deleted or merged. Maybe that could be our project this summer. Nerd (talk) 02:05, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
Wonderful! It's as important to constantly prune away the bad and unnecessary content as it is to add new contributions. There's tons of articles that need merging and rewrites (for example, all the Noah's Ark mergers we've got support for in the duplicate articles thread). If that merger ever gets done, we will have a glorious new front page article to add to the roster. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 02:25, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
So, what do you say, Human? (By the way, please do check out our page for Stephen Hawking. I am very proud to have contributed to it.) Take care, Nerd (talk) 01:50, 30 June 2016 (UTC)


Since you are the one to created the page, I would just like to cordially invite you to come check out how it has improved. It is by no means perfect but has become a lot richer. The last section needs to be updated; the detection of the Higgs boson and gravitational waves deserve to be mentioned. I will do that soon. I am proud to have added a lot to it. Take care, Nerd (talk) 02:50, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Lots of bad writing there... don't know if that was you or not, though. The opening to 21st century is barely English. ħumanUser talk:Human 18:59, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
I did not touch the 21st century bit. I plan to get to it soon. In the meantime, please continue improve the page at your leisure. Nerd271 (talk) 15:41, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
I tried to improve that bit. Mistakes in other parts are likely to be mine. That's why I took a break from writing that article and asked another editor to take a look. Had I proofread immediately, chances are I would not have been able to catch my mistakes. On top of that, tiredness can prevent me from recognizing grammatical errors. Nerd271 (talk) 16:02, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
It has now been updated to include the first direct detection of the Higgs boson and gravitational waves. Nerd271 (talk) 02:12, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Before I forget, while it may seem more natural to say dynamic systems, dynamical systems is the standard term. I'm not entirely sure why this is the case, in light of the fact that we say, for example, Maxwell's thermodynamic relations, but not Maxwell's thermodynamical relations. Nothing really changes here so I think we should leave it be. However, if you think electromotive force or emf is a horrible name dating back to the time when people did not distinguishes between forces and energies and should be replaced by electromotance than I would agree with you. Nerd271 (talk) 23:11, 14 August 2016 (UTC)


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Welcome back to the 2016-17 RationalWiki board! FU22YC47P07470 (talk/stalk) 20:45, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Good post!-⇂ɔsᴉᗡpuoɯɐᴉᗡ (talk) 05:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

A toast![edit]

Congratulations, my friend! We made it. You made it! Th hug.gif
*Sniffle* You may now kiss the goat. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 22:53, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

I'd like to thank you all, and the Academy, and my parents, the Pope and Madonna. ħumanUser talk:Human 16:38, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Reminder cough[edit]

Meeting tomorrow. FuzzyCatPotato of the Incompetent Antidisestablishmentarianists (talk/stalk) 19:29, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Does this bother you?[edit]

Are you bothered by RationalWiki being used to attack individuals online? I am. Having articles such as this are not really serving much of a purpose here, and all it is doing is creating more suspicions and negative attention for RationalWiki because of other websites like this in response. It is pretty obvious to me that this is all based on some personal vendettas against this individual. It is probably creating more problems in the long run. Looking at the talk page history, it has been going on far too long and it is getting harder and harder to justify why we are doing this. Makertech (talk) 01:44, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Yawn. You woke me up for this? ħumanUser talk:Human 02:50, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
You yourself noted on that talk page that the article was a clear attack piece. It might be better to consider this now than to lose sleep later about a broader issue things like this may cause. Get a good nights sleep and you can respond once you've had a good rest. Good night.Makertech (talk) 05:12, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Personally, I am sick of seeing articles about some dumb Internet drama. I don't find snarky articles about an individual interesting, I find it plain annoying especially when snark dominates analysis.—Hamburguesa con queso con un cara Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 06:47, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Looks like pointless attack piece. I searched in vain for the individual's stance on missional topics, and it seemed like he was guilty of agreeing with some people we might not like, sometimes. So why hasn't the article been cleaned up and trimmed down to the relevant details? (If any?) ħumanUser talk:Human 17:11, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

You've been nominated as a moderator[edit]

You've been nominated in the upcoming moderator elections. See the nomination at RationalWiki:Moderator elections/Nominations. Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 04:21, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

C®ackeЯ Reporting for duty![edit]

I find that I may have to come out of retirement.

Are we going to use this place in defense of, you know, rationality? 03:25, 23 January 2017 (UTC) C®ackeЯ

Good luck with that! And welcome back to the Dollhouse! ħumanUser talk:Human 18:54, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

DPL stuff on your user page[edit]

I'm going to remove the DPL contributions box from your user page, and I'd suggest that you leave it out at least until MySQL is upgraded. Under ordinary circumstances, it is slow, about 17 seconds, but when the server is under load, it is very slow indeed -- I logged your user page yesterday taking 16 hours (!) to render. The PHP timeout was not hit because it measures CPU time, not including MySQL query time. It's probably a MySQL bug, but there's not much we can do about that right now other than disable things that trigger it. Tim Starling (talk) 06:40, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

OK, thanks. It wasn't really mine anyway. I just cleared out the section(s), for simplicity. ħumanUser talk:Human 16:55, 8 June 2017 (UTC)


On still being alive! :-) --Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 17:01, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Lol thanks :) ħumanUser talk:Human 17:22, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Are you able to call now?[edit]

Re: board discussion. Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 22:41, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Nominations ahoy[edit]

You've been nominated to the RationalMedia Foundation election. Please accept or decline here; if you accept, you may wish to campaign.

I do hope you accept -- you've been damn diligent. Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 18:36, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads-up - and for the kind words of support! ħumanUser talk:Human 18:50, 30 July 2017 (UTC)


Why did so many users retire in 2009? —Bigljbigl (talk/stalk) 09:32, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

I don't know - did they give reasons? It may very well have been some of the first wave of users moving on with their lives. ħumanUser talk:Human 16:17, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Why are you everywhere? —Bigljbigl (talk/stalk) 16:44, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Everywhere? ħumanUser talk:Human 19:15, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Are you the last founder left? —Bigljbigl (talk/stalk) 16:25, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Bicycle Wheel and nobs both joined in 2007, I don't know if they could be described as "founders" though. Christopher (talk) 16:31, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
"Left" is a very strong word. ħumanUser talk:Human 17:38, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Election results[edit]

Please see RationalWiki:2017 board of trustees election/Results. The FCP Foundation (talk/stalk) 19:13, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Congrats on your election, Human. ScepticWombat (talk) 20:14, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! ħumanUser talk:Human 22:23, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


What was the old IRC like? —ѕυρяємє ℓєα∂єя вιgℓʝвιgℓ σf gσαтιѕтαи (ωσя∂ѕ σf ωιѕ∂σм/α¢нιєνємєитѕ) 23:48, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

It was on the internet, and it allowed people who joined it to chat. In relays. I dunno, there were a handful of regulars I guess. It was a long, long time ago... ħumanUser talk:Human 15:34, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Thx, been wondering due to RW's new Discord server making me wonder about its predecessor all those years ago (and Myon's unofficial server). —ѕυρяємє ℓєα∂єя вιgℓʝвιgℓ σf gσαтιѕтαи (ωσя∂ѕ σf ωιѕ∂σм/α¢нιєνємєитѕ)

Wherein people randomly address me[edit]

Hi there! SuperGeek (talk) 11:34, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Um, hi :) ħumanUser talk:Human 00:14, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Long time no see, fellow human! Nerd (talk) 02:07, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Glad to see you didn't mysteriously vanish like most of the old guard did. 𝔊𝔬𝔞𝔱-𝔈𝔪𝔭𝔢𝔯𝔬𝔯 𝔅𝔦𝔤𝔰 (𝔴𝔬𝔯𝔡𝔰 𝔬𝔣 𝔴𝔦𝔰𝔡𝔬𝔪/𝔞𝔠𝔥𝔦𝔢𝔳𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔰) 18:53, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Who, me? ħumanUser talk:Human 19:08, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi! Please put a welcome sign on my page, thanks! I'm new! Jenna Smith (talk) 16:47, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

That looks like it has been taken care of! ħumanUser talk:Human 17:26, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


Just out of curiosity - I can't put my head to it - what is the general economic stance around here? Sometimes I get the sense that it comes from a sort of mixed capitalism (with a social democratic leaning) and other times I get the sense that it is Chicago School/Neoclassical (Mill, Marshal, Friedman, etc.). Just curious to see what you think. Darth Ravigious (talk) 13:10, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

I would hardly be in a position to generalize about that - I am just not active enough to have a sense of the positions held by the active user base these days. You could try taking a poll, perhaps? ħumanUser talk:Human 17:54, 18 March 2018 (UTC)