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Hey goobers, it's my talk page!

Just so's you all know, I have a distinct preference for continuing conversations on the talk page they start on. Otherwise my aging brain hurts! (ie, no table tennis conversations, please)

My stale, dusty, useless to-do list is here.

BrainMop.png As a confirmed mustard jar for taking on this job as a Sysop on RationalWiki: I pledge to only block users if they ask for it, or insert unfunny vandalism.
I furthermore pledge that if I indulge in secret private conversations about you, we will make a formal report to the mob. Is that all?
If you impugn my motives without warrant, or challenge my "AUTHORITY", er, there is nothing I can or will do.
Anyone is welcome to nominate editors for demotion to sysop, and discuss the nominations here.
Sysops can summarize the nominations here
So a woman, a Mormon, a grizzled Viet Nam vet and a black guy and Mike Huckabee walk into a bar. What's the punchline? Find out in -30 days!


You're aware Mudkip is a Pokemon, right? --Wandalise me Bohdan! RA talk stalkOver 320 edits! 23:43, 22 December 2007 (EST)

I know I certainly had no idea. I still barely have knowledge of just what a "Pokemon" is, other than some cards kids collect. It might be an age thing, you know. ;-) --TK/MyTalk 00:01, 23 December 2007 (EST)
That's why I asked it to write fun:mudkips, and we now also have fun:mudkipeze. Those of us out of various loops use RW to fulfill our innertube koolzness quotas... humanUser talk:Human 01:23, 23 December 2007 (EST)


ur welcoeme! --Mudkip.png I CAN HAS MUDKIPS? 15:04, 23 December 2007 (EST)


I was unaware that each <font> tag needed a </font> tag, I thought one just needed a tag at the endeded. Sorryt for making you work so hard on Xmas eve day. CЯacke® 16:36, 24 December 2007 (EST)

Eh, no big deal. It did pretty weird things to my watchlist, though! It took me a while to realize they were left out. And once you use enough html, the wiki syntax stops working, so I had to bold it in html. C'est la vie... it's all better now! I wish we had a "richer" autotagging environment available on MW - and I am surprised that there isn't a tag for <center> (I've always been surprised that in html that isn't <c>blah</c>)!.
I edit my webshites in "arachnophilia" (the last pre-java version), which is an amazingly powerful html/plain text editor - you can, for instance, make your own custom buttons that do anything you want. And global search and replace (over all open files) makes fast work of format changes. When I did that chickenhawk thing, after the first couple of sub-pages, I converted all the rest at he same time in about 5 minutes. humanUser talk:Human 16:41, 24 December 2007 (EST)
Yeah, I'm weak in html, I used to use the one built in to Netscrape to have more colorful presentation on ebay, back in the day (1998 or so), when the most anyone had was bigger text, and WAY before auction software was wrote. I feared html as I felt it could be a backdoor way for me to get into programming, which I promised myself WAY back in the 80's I'd never do since I wanted to have a life. (I have friends, long rich from coding, who code in their sleep, when they get some. They have way too much money but cannot enjoy it since they cut themselves off for so long the only friends they have with anything in common with are all coders and hackers.)CЯacke®
Interesting parallels here, with a twist... I got out of HS in 1977, and had spent a few years playing with BASIC (our school had a teletype on a dedicated phone line to the HP2000A at PEA) already. I decided not to pursue programming because I "didn't want to turn into a little green man" - I had already seen that thing where a quick fix at 3:30 PM turns into darkness without any sense of the passage of time - and because the "model" at the time was Big Blue - a very starched shirt operation, and I just didn't want to get suited up.
OK, so I was very right about the first reason. The second, however, I was so wildly wrong on it's sad. Microsoft and Apple were both founded around the time I would have dropped out and gon to work for them, and MS made all their early employees millionaires.
FF to the mid 90's. I need a webshite for my business, and a friend makes v 1.0 for me, and shortly after shows me arachnophilia, which, back then (browsers have changed too much for this to work any more) could show a "preview" of your html in whatever browsers you told it to use. And the aforementioned strong editing tools. Working in html never put me in that "programming" mode, however, any more than tricky image editing or making graphs from spreadsheets. It was when I started using Perl to make my webshites more sophisticated that hours started melting away...
As far as your friends, I'm sorry to hear that (Hey, I edit RW in my sleep, but that's fun). Actually, I have found that any repetitive work tends to overrun my dreams (Imagine a shitty factory job. You think you're done after your 5x8=40, but nooooo, you have to do it in your sleep, too!). At least with moderately creative endeavors, you actually get answers while sleeping.
My buddy who mentored/tutored me in Perl is an independent software/hardware guy. He buys $1000 used engines any time he feels like it. (Glad he didn't charge me for the tutoring!) He works on cars heavily as a hobby, has a girlfriend and other friends, and seems to be quite happy and well-adjusted. What happened to your freinds happens to many people because of the priorities they choose, not the exact nature of their work (contrast corporate suit lawyer with one working for a non-profit they believe in). It's understandable, say, with doctors, because they simply have to focus and work so hard for so long to get that MD (yet our resident goat-worshipper seems pretty well rounded). It's a matter of choices and priorities - and getting a decent grounding in literature and the liberal arts in HS and college before deciding how to spend one's life.
Whew. hahahahaha humanUser talk:Human 17:08, 24 December 2007 (EST)
I really wish I had spent more time on the damned teletype. We had one of those couplers that hooked up to the school's mainframe too. Wrote lots of basic Basic. Then we got an Apple II+. Whoopee! One thing I've found is that doctors who dabble in programming tend to write lousy applications. Our hospital is so far behind in IT it makes me scream.!--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 17:57, 24 December 2007 (EST)


New essay! --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 21:01, 24 December 2007 (EST)

No need to apologize. For what, advertizing? haha. humanUser talk:Human 21:46, 24 December 2007 (EST)
By the way, as you can see, I fixed my signature. In my preferences, I put the name of a page that had only my signature's template on it. So now it substitutes only a template of my signature. Funny, though, how I tried that once on Uncyclopedia, and it still inserted the entire signature's code. It only works here. ...This wiki is really screwy. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 22:41, 24 December 2007 (EST)
Nice work and thank you! Maybe we should check out our sig help article to make sure it clarifies what you discovered. I suspect some of it relies on what options have been installed, and as sig freaks here on RW, maybe we did somethin UC didn't? humanUser talk:Human 23:12, 24 December 2007 (EST)

Should I be ashamed, whoring my articles like this? Also, it just occurred to me that it's really more of an essay than an article. Oh, well... can always move it later. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 21:01, 25 December 2007 (EST)

Happy Xmas[edit]

Hi H. I'm hating Xmas day: on my own 'til about 8:00 tonight - long story. Depressing - Susan 08:49, 25 December 2007 (EST)

I don't believe it, she moans about being at home alone all Christmas day. I was bloody working! (and she's still in bed at 10 30 ish ) 05:24, 27 December 2007 (EST)

:(. Poor Susan. I've snatched a little time away from relatives - they're really nice and all, but there's just so damn many of them. --
Just broken away from Christmas relatives. Not too bad. --Bobbing up 12:37, 25 December 2007 (EST)
Happy Fetivus! General's Chicken for all!!!!--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 12:57, 25 December 2007 (EST)
Nice to have lots of bottles of Champagne (OK, Cava - but who's being picky?) in the house as well. --Bobbing up 14:22, 25 December 2007 (EST)
Happy Christy Day, Human! I'm Jewish, so X-mas is a day of suffering (because everything is closed). Hope you enjoy it more than I do! :) --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 17:37, 25 December 2007 (EST)

Merry Christmas all, and thank you. Hope the evening works out better than the day, Susan! RA, Chinese restaurants are usually open, but I agree, it's frustrating having the hardware stores closed. Oh well, 'tis but one day. humanUser talk:Human 17:45, 25 December 2007 (EST)

White Castle was closed! Can you believe it? I had to settle for Waffle House. Quite a step down, if you ask me. ГдлессЛиберал 00:11, 26 December 2007 (EST)
Man, WC.... memories. When I was in Missouri I went on some trip with Carlo, the guy who ran the pizza/Italian restaurant I worked at, and we went to WC. Weird food. So weird I bought some frozen ones last year. Ya take about four of those teeny burgers and stick them on one roll with plenty cheese and it's a pretty good bite of food! Would you believe I don't even have a friggin' Denny's anywhere near me? Life is hard... humanUser talk:Human 00:45, 26 December 2007 (EST)

welcome template[edit]

Check out the welcome template. This may be a dumb question, but what is the first half of the text for?

{{#if: {{{2|}}} | <div class="noprint" style="border: solid #000 1px; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; font-size: 100%; background: #fff0ff; width: 480px; padding: 5px; spacing: 0px; text-align: left; "> <div style="float: left;">[[Image:60px-RW_Logo.png]]</div> <div style="margin-left: 0px;"> <center>Welcome to '''RationalWiki''', {{{1|(Newcomer's name)}}}!!!<br> Please see our [[RationalWiki:Contents|table of contents]] and [[RationalWiki:Community Standards|guidelines]].<br> Pull up a [[goat]] and have some fun! Any questions? Please see [[User talk:{{{2|your name here}}}|my talk page]].</center> </div> </div>

I played around with it in my sandbox, and removing all that didn't appear to change anything. ГдлессЛиберал 03:11, 26 December 2007 (EST)

It's a legacy thing - see the part that says "if 2"? That allows for some older uses where we used two arguments. If one only inserts ones user name, or nothing at all, the second half takes over. If the first half was removed, some iterations of it would break. humanUser talk:Human 03:14, 26 December 2007 (EST)

More on this - the older version had the inserter manually enter both the new user name and their user name like this: {{welcome|noob|oldfart}}. The new version (the bottom half of the template) automatically inserts the noobs user name, and either uses no argument or just the oldfarts user name. So the "new" code running on the two argument version would display a box telling the noob to go to their own talk page for help.

If we want to simplify the template by getting rid of the first section, we will need to find all iterations of {{welcome}} that use two arguments, and delete the first one. I might remember to leave a note on Trent's talk page to see if he can whip up a bot to do it. humanUser talk:Human 17:24, 30 December 2007 (EST)

You never seem to be editing at two or three in the morning...[edit]

Which means you probably missed out on two of the most happening pages on RationalWiki, It's three in the morning, no one else is editing, and I'm bored as hell and It's two in the morning, no one else is editing, and I'm so bored I just ate a twinkie. Death to unbelievers (in a good way)! --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 18:25, 26 December 2007 (EST)

No, because if I was, I'd either be vandalizing or creating strange random pages out of boredom. Unless I had something I really wanted to edit or write at that time. Heck, it was dead as a doorpost around here yesterday afternoon/evening, too. humanUser talk:Human 20:46, 26 December 2007 (EST)

Hey human![edit]

Could you rename this account to 'Interpreted', do you think, using your mad admin powah? Thanks - I'm looking to diversify into interpreting other sorts of stuff. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!

Thy will be done. humanUser talk:Human 20:06, 29 December 2007 (EST)
All your "stuff" got moved, as well, so you might want to check your interlinkies, etc. humanUser talk:Human 20:07, 29 December 2007 (EST)
Thanks. For that, you can have a rare picture of some goats in a tree, although I think you THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE may have uploaded it in the first place. Still, it has a fine vintage:


-- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!

Kewl! No twas not I that loaded them up. Looks tasty though. PS, go edit your sig to skip the redirects... humanUser talk:Human 21:42, 29 December 2007 (EST)
I now believe that I know who is HBC. :twirls Poirot-esque moustache: --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום

"Whitewashing attempt" ?[edit]

Is it too late in the evening for you to me posting? Why would you call a reversion back to the version you and I both made, a "whitewash"? --TK/MyTalk 23:13, 29 December 2007 (EST)

I thought the version I reverted it back to was better. And project whitewash is a well-known SPOV sponsored activity. humanUser talk:Human 23:15, 29 December 2007 (EST)
Whatever. Even being cooperative and trying to be nice, gets insults and scorn. Like RWW, you just are intent on hating on me. I declined the opportunity to be a janitor. Check with your fellow Bureaucrats. --TK/MyTalk 23:20, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Recent changes[edit]

The recent changes text is broken. I don't know what the page is called to fix it (though I think it's protected anyway). Lucky you :) Lurker 17:00, 30 December 2007 (EST)

Keep hitting F5, it just worked for me! Presto! NorsemanWassail! 17:03, 30 December 2007 (EST)
I think a=a got it. It was in the holydayz template. If I knew where the template for the recent changes was I probably could have figured it out myself... Lurker 17:06, 30 December 2007 (EST)
Yeah, I must have messed it up. Thanks! humanUser talk:Human 17:08, 30 December 2007 (EST)
The recent changes thing starts at mediawiki:recentchangestext, then has 2-3 templates giving it content. By the way, it's also transcluded to watchlists. humanUser talk:Human 17:11, 30 December 2007 (EST)
I knew it was around there somewhere. I thought I had added it to my watch list, but I guess using "rollback" doesn't auto add. Lurker 17:35, 30 December 2007 (EST)


This new wiki rww has a page on me. I was distressed to find numerous inaccuracies. The first line says "Bohdan is yet another ex CP sysop who has expressed a desire to become a sysop at RW. (What is it with these guys?)" I have never expressed any interest in becoming a sysop here, and have had to ask others to take away sysopship when I was given it against my will. It then goes on to call me "mostly harmless". How's that again? I would appreciate if this page simply labeled me only as the "legendary vandal of RW". Please change these glaring inaccuracies. Thank you, user talk:Bohdan

Why not join RWW and correct it yourself? It certainly is a glaring omission not to mention your term as Chief Wandalmaster and Seekrit Plotter! — Unsigned, by: Human / talk / contribs

Dreadnought Weirdness[edit]

Always Watching...

Human - Dread is saying that someone is using his account to revert a bunch of his edits. I blocked him so that this could get sorted out and told him to change his password, but it strikes me that a bureaucrat might have a better clue as to WTF was going on...PFoster 20:15, 31 December 2007 (EST)

Mmm! (She said dubiously/disbelievingly) Susanpurrrrr ... 20:24, 31 December 2007 (EST)

Yeah, I know - the fact that he said "someone from Conservapedia" might be doing it struck me as a little odd - but still, err on the side of caution and all that, eh? PFoster 20:26, 31 December 2007 (EST)
I have no idea how that could happen - surely his password is secret. Oh, here's one way - if he was logged in on a machine others have access to and told it to "remember" him, or let it store his password. Anyway, yeah, blocking while he changes his password makes sense. Is it fixed yet? humanUser talk:Human 20:26, 31 December 2007 (EST)
Well, I reverted the damage, but since the account's blocked, you can't tell it someone is still using it, right? PFoster 20:32, 31 December 2007 (EST)
Right. Hopefully DN will read what's being said, change his pword (and find out what went wrong), and email you asking to be unblocked. Is all this clearly said on his talk page? humanUser talk:Human 20:39, 31 December 2007 (EST)
Oh no! I've been noticing a authoritarian trend here the last few weeks. Could this be RW's version of the wp:Reichstag fire? Will this lead to a blanket ban of anyone who disagrees with the site mission? user talk:Bohdan 20:49, 31 December 2007 (EST)
No...Not at all.CЯacke®
Lets wait and see. If Human starts banning, then we know what is happening... user talk:Bohdan 20:54, 31 December 2007 (EST)
To be fair, the "authoritarian trend" has been directed at the most part at white supremacists, the "New Gwenson" people, Dr. Dolittle and the NWO/Libertarian crowd who were constantly making the same reverts - and none of them got banned for very long. Hardly unreasonable. PFoster 20:57, 31 December 2007 (EST)
I am convinced that all of your vandalism comes from a sane person. And no, its not me. user talk:Bohdan 20:59, 31 December 2007 (EST)
It wouldn't surprise me - the "all the same people" bit, that is, not the "it's Bohdan" bit...PFoster 21:02, 31 December 2007 (EST)
Bohdan, you know you're a sysop, right? Pinto's5150 Talk 01:42, 1 January 2008 (EST)
Oh geez, here comes the Revolution! humanUser talk:Human 01:52, 1 January 2008 (EST)
I'd just like to mention that dreadnought is the name of a galaxy in Super Mario Galaxy. You're welcome. ɧєɭıסş-get sunburn! 00:12, 2 January 2008 (EST)
And here I was thinking it was either a guitar or a ship! humanUser talk:Human 04:10, 2 January 2008 (EST)


Er... boobs. How do you deal with someone being a boob? --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 03:51, 2 January 2008 (EST)

Ah, that would be the Nowhere Man, eh? If it's just Bohdan, block him for a bit, he's bored and making his usual trouble. And if so, that "Ra" user (Heyerdahl's second boat?) will not be active anyway. Also, ignoring them or making outrageous non sequiturs usually works well. humanUser talk:Human 03:56, 2 January 2008 (EST)
Oh, and as far as the creation of a username that is your initials, you might have a good case for having them renamed. Impersonation is frowned upon, and since we do call you RA for ease of spelignl, confusion could come about easily. humanUser talk:Human 04:01, 2 January 2008 (EST)
Fixing that problem now. humanUser talk:Human 04:06, 2 January 2008 (EST)
Fixing what problem? The sockpuppet issue? I already blocked your other tmt sock, but I left the ames sock. user talk:Bohdan 04:07, 2 January 2008 (EST)
  • That was an unjust rename and an abuse of powers. user talk:Bohdan 04:08, 2 January 2008 (EST)
No it wasn't, and it wasn't neither. At least I didn't rename you to your real name, Nadhob. humanUser talk:Human 04:10, 2 January 2008 (EST)
O_O Sent you an email before I realized you had already unblocked me. Oh well, it was funny. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 04:11, 2 January 2008 (EST)


[1] No idea if that kind of junk is stored in vandal archive, or just trashed. Danke. --TK/MyTalk 05:13, 2 January 2008 (EST)

Eh, just leave it where it is, unless you'd prefer to move some of it to your vandalism archive. No one ever goes looking at that stuff anyway. Only time I look at mine is if I think someone answered a question I had but I forgot the answer. PS, I fixed the link... humanUser talk:Human 15:07, 2 January 2008 (EST)

IRV amendment[edit]

As I recall, you were the one who wanted instant runoff voting included in Needed Constitutional Amendments. I've taken a shine to the idea, and I was wondering if you could tell me if the way I worded the amendment is satisfactory. Keep in mind, I prioritized maintaining the tone and style used throughout the Constitution over explicitly spelling out the technical details. So, is it workable? --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 14:51, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Looks good to me. Especially that you defined it, rather than "naming" it - my version requires that the interpreters know what the phrase means. Someone should add an amendment written in Spanish ;) humanUser talk:Human 16:47, 3 January 2008 (EST)
PS, out of curiosity, why did you change your mind about that? humanUser talk:Human 16:59, 3 January 2008 (EST)
Oh, I just thought about it a bit. In such a shamelessly populist country as the United States, shouldn't we provide a way for people to vote how they really want to, rather than just voting for who they think will win? --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 18:48, 3 January 2008 (EST)

It's renaming tiem![edit]

It's renaming tiem! --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום

What do you think they should be renamed? (Oh, and what's the reason?) humanUser talk:Human 17:01, 3 January 2008 (EST)
The current fill up recent changes. We could rename them to, I dunno, 'matt' (see his contribs), but Susan's banned him already. --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
So it's a moot point then, right? humanUser talk:Human 17:22, 3 January 2008 (EST)

trolling and other disruptive behavior[edit]

I kan haz noot plz?

I am the victim of trolling and numerous other wrongs by one of your admins. This is disrupting my ability to contribute to this wonderful project. I request that this user be desysoped and banned for this behavior. user talk:Bohdan 17:25, 3 January 2008 (EST)

I would do so immediately if it weren't for your provoking her. Not everyone enjoys your disrupting this wonderful project. humanUser talk:Human 17:31, 3 January 2008 (EST)
Provoking? I did nothing to deserve this sort of admin abuse. That is the problem with this wiki. Too many n00bs get made sysop, and then the power goes to their heads. I hate to say it, but rationalwiki is no longer fun. user talk:Bohdan 17:33, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Sorry to be endlessly bothersome[edit]

... but can I retrieve my banhammer/demotion/powaz? I could clear up some of the Gwenson mess, if need be. --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום

Done. When or why did they go away? humanUser talk:Human 18:10, 3 January 2008 (EST)
TK asked for them to be removed. The butanz! The butanz! --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
Oh, that's right, your self-immolation and sacrifice to make some disruption somewhere go away. humanUser talk:Human 18:13, 3 January 2008 (EST)
Can we at some point end the seemingly endless bullshit? Please provide a link for where I asked for this. --TK/MyTalk 18:29, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Just to let you know[edit]

Lot of talk involving you over at User talk:Cracker. Pinto's5150 Talk 20:34, 6 January 2008 (EST)

Thanks, I commented there. humanUser talk:Human 21:29, 6 January 2008 (EST)

CP cut and paste fest 4[edit]

Contest here! --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 06:35, 7 January 2008 (EST)

Thanks! Caught it, made Conservapedia:Team_Contest_four to track and snark it! humanUser talk:Human 06:38, 7 January 2008 (EST)

Eh? --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 06:40, 7 January 2008 (EST)
HAHAHAHAHAHA. I was thinking of another contest. Comment on yours shortly! humanUser talk:Human 06:47, 7 January 2008 (EST)
I made my entry, thank you! humanUser talk:Human 06:49, 7 January 2008 (EST)

New pic on your page[edit]

You know, I could make dozens variations of the RW logo image on you userpage. All you have to do is ask, I am rescued from boredom. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 06:11, 8 January 2008 (EST)

I saw. Knock yourself out, that's what I did. Anyway, I think we have an "alternate RW logo" page somewhere? Or at least in one of my litter boxes? Keep in mind that lemon party... tub girl... RationalWiki! has a classic basis in FACT! Assfly typed them in in order, oncey upon a timey! I'll try to find that logo link I referred to. humanUser talk:Human 06:21, 8 January 2008 (EST)
here - knock yourself out! humanUser talk:Human 06:22, 8 January 2008 (EST)

Name block?[edit]

I've noticed a lot of vandals with variations of the name "My password is...". Is there a way to just preemptively block any user account with "My password" in it? Just a suggestion. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 15:37, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Interesting idea, I have no idea if it can be done. Another way would be to get the software to alert us when certain phrases are used. Which I doubt it can do. Of course, by now when we see such users we can block briefly before checking contribs, and just apologize if they are "real". Since they never are... humanUser talk:Human 02:08, 10 January 2008 (EST)
I rather think they would change their naming convention the moment such a software block were implemented.--Bobbing up 05:15, 10 January 2008 (EST)
Did anyone bother to check if their password really was the declared one? I don't think they would have minded much if someone logged into their account, given that they gave the password away and they lasted a couple of minutes at most before being banhammered blocked. Ed @but not the Poor one! 05:39, 10 January 2008 (EST)
I checked a couple which were correct and a couple that weren't.--Bobbing up 05:48, 10 January 2008 (EST)
That, Bob, may be because if I'm around when they appear, I log off and sign in as "My password is xxx" and then change password "xxx" to "yyy" in the preferences. Cause, like I'm teh ebil. 08:42, 10 January 2008 (EST) CЯacke®
Edit:Like that one there, My password is glass, not any more it ain't. CЯacke®
Thanks! It was one of those questions that kept me awake at nights, but which I never resolved to check myself. Ed @but not the Poor one! 05:53, 10 January 2008 (EST)
Hey, whenever anyone does that, they should leave the "Not anymore it ain't" comment on the talk page so we know the account has been "neutered". Then no need to block, right? We could even have a template ("notword"?) that says "Your password is ****** now. Please start guessing at large prime numbers." humanUser talk:Human 00:56, 11 January 2008 (EST)

I just wish they'd be a little more (as in: more than zero) creative in their wandalism. --Edgerunner76 09:24, 10 January 2008 (EST)

The software definitely allows it to be done via a user name blacklist (I think there was discussion on tmt's talk page about this). CP has a pretty awesome one, with forbidden user names that you can probably already guess. Too lazy to link to it now though. But yeah, as said above they could just change their names to something else. Mai psswurd iz guut.--Bayesupdate 12:43, 10 January 2008 (EST)
I'd like to see one of the supercoders here work that "new/IP eds limited to 3 edits/hour" thing. It was talked about somewhere a while ago. SusanPrunes and custard 13:06, 10 January 2008 (EST)
In that case, couldn't the wandals create a ton of "sleeper" accounts, wait for them to "mature" to full editing rights, and then do their thing? I guess there'd be a lot of effort involved for the typical vandal to do that but still...--Bayesupdate 00:50, 11 January 2008 (EST)
That would be way beyond what most random wiki-trolls would do, I suspect. Heck, it could even be a thing that a sysop has to turn off rather than a time delay. Which is a bit too CP/big brotherish for me. humanUser talk:Human 00:53, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Playing with Alexa[edit]

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<script type="text/javascript">/* <![CDATA[*/

  // enter up to 3 domains, separated by a space
  var sites      = ['']; 
  var opts = {
     width:      380,  // width in pixels (max 400)
     height:     300,  // height in pixels (max 300)
     type:       'r',  // "r" Reach, "n" Rank, "p" Page Views 
     range:      '6m', // "7d", "1m", "3m", "6m", "1y", "3y", "5y", "max" 
     bgcolor:    'e6f3fc' // hex value without "#" char (usually "e6f3fc")
  AGraphManager.add( new AGraph(sites, opts) );


Just thought I'd try out their code to see how fun it is. Well, that was epic phail... humanUser talk:Human 02:30, 10 January 2008 (EST)

Tried that yesterday, to no avail. I don't think Javascript and wiki are compatible... Sterileminichatroomthingy 13:11, 10 January 2008 (EST)
I play Alexa! All the time! Well, I used to play with Alexa. Then we moved across town. I never saw her again. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 15:50, 10 January 2008 (EST)

"Rural" legend[edit]

You really do crack me up sometimes. :) You certainly always lighten my mood! --Eira omtg! The Goat be praised. 00:05, 11 January 2008 (EST)

You're welcome :) Glad I could help... have you seen the header at my talk page archive list thingie? humanUser talk:Human 00:10, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Party on a humanoid talk page![edit]

You made a typo... we now have TWO PARTIES! WOOOoHOOO!!!!! --Ζωροάστρης 00:55, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Victuals to the left of me, medicines to the right, and here I am, stuck in the middle with you! Oooh, you brought your yummy goat pilaf!!! humanUser talk:Human 01:01, 11 January 2008 (EST)


Wave your magic admin wand[edit]

Silver Sloth removed a few sections without explanation here. Unfortunately, by the time I noticed it, I had already done several edits to the page. Is there a way to roll back edits that late in the game, without reverting every edit that followed? Or will you I just have to suck it up and manually copy-paste the material back in? --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 07:40, 11 January 2008 (EST)

I think you have to do it manually - pick whichever diff is most "complete" and click "edit" on that one, I guess. I don't know of a way to "undo" an edit without affecting later edits. humanUser talk:Human 20:40, 11 January 2008 (EST)
Actually, maybe it would sense to move all that stuff to an article and its talk page now? Leaving links behind, of course. Also, talk main is getting really long and will probably get archived soon. A simple link would be easy to leave behind instead of it gettiing archived. humanUser talk:Human 22:28, 11 January 2008 (EST)


They aren't pretty, but I finished my graphs for the report card. I had them finished a couple days ago, but I've been too busy lazy to upload them and explain what they are. Lemme know if you wantses more. Lurker 20:00, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Nice work. I take it that when you refer to "editors", it's only the ones we listed on the report card tables? I think it would be nice to see a multi-line graph of edits/month by each of the sysops, but what do I know? humanUser talk:Human 23:41, 11 January 2008 (EST)
That is correct. And your idea sounds interesting, I'll see if I have time today. Lurker 14:09, 15 January 2008 (EST)


NE WS weathervane

U.S. The United States is currently involved in one of the most laughable primary seasons ever seen.

Mmmm ...(43.109059 -71.041283) Green. (Is it white now?) SusanPurrrrrrr 18:01, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Stalker! Hehe. Yes, it is mostly white right now, with patches of brown and grey. More white on the way, so they tell us, though. humanUser talk:Human 02:08, 14 January 2008 (EST)
Yah, tings be pretty white around here again... humanUser talk:Human 07:35, 14 January 2008 (EST)


I'll see if I can dig it up somewhere. Thanks for pointing it out. --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום


What, you can't drop everything and rush to go look at every new article I make? And you call yourself a sysop! :) --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 15:17, 14 January 2008 (EST)

I must say, I'm impressed. Oh, and I'm more of a "watchlist" guy than a "recent changes" troller. humanUser talk:Human 16:13, 14 January 2008 (EST)


I think you have a good thing going here, it's a big task, but I think eventually, we should be able to boast of the least informative state articles in the world :) :) and thanks for catching my mistakes by the way SirChuckBCall the FBI 14:32, 15 January 2008 (EST)

Haha, thanks. yeah, I spent hours downloading all those quarters, and I'd hate to see the series broken up and half the team exlied to "fun". Was that you who pumped up Colorado today? Nice work... we edit conflicted trying to add the ref. section! I love how people keep adding random semi-true local snark to these things, it actually makes them quite, um, "interesting" to read, if not truly "informative". Heck, if you want those neutrally-biased (read:insipid) "facts", everyone knows to go to Conservapedia Wikipaedia! humanUser talk:Human 14:36, 15 January 2008 (EST)
By the way, you should check out Alaska sometime... Completely out of line with our mission! humanUser talk:Human 14:38, 15 January 2008 (EST)
That's funny about the edit conflict... Yeah, I'm still working on my Wiki code, so I make a lot of mistakes... But I can't understand why people have so much venom for the states... I thought it'd be a funny way to tell interesting stories about your home (I'm really not kidding about that Elway thing... they will hurt you......bad) I wanna work of some of the others when I get a chance. SirChuckBCall the FBI 14:41, 15 January 2008 (EST)

Stop, in the name of love![edit]

Would you mind not fucking with TK? It's funny for the first 2 or 3 volleys, but it gets old really quickly. I think we just have to accept that TK can't be civil to anyone either on Conservapedia or here, and do our best to ignore him until he gets bored and goes away. --JeεvsYour signature gave me epilepsy... 14:47, 15 January 2008 (EST)

Sorry :( By the way, maybe instead of "hope", we might take "[[User talk:Cracker/rantage|action]]"? humanUser talk:Human 23:46, 15 January 2008 (EST)

I appoint thee[edit]

To do the deed (hast thou not heard a noise?)-αmεσ (orator) 00:18, 16 January 2008 (EST)

Not just yet. Isn't this against the RW rules? Didn't you originally exult yourselves for not blocking socks and not permabanning? Didn't you claim that permabanning was an example of CP authoritarianism? This whole thing reminds me of the end of animal farm. user talk:Bohdan 00:26, 16 January 2008 (EST)
Hegh, I feel the weight of the Willim Shake's Spear upon me, owt, et tu, Brute (?), and the wisdom of the ages, cursing me, weighing down on me, to forever have done the right thing on behalf of my friends... Wait, that doesn't sound so bad!
Let such actions wait til the light of the next dawn, fine fellow, when I can confront my bloody deed in fresh face and clear mind, forsooth? PS, shit, Bohdan, I thought I blocked you! EC etc... humanUser talk:Human 00:29, 16 January 2008 (EST)
Not just yet. Isn't this against the RW rules? Didn't you originally exult yourselves for not blocking socks and not permabanning? Didn't you claim that permabanning was an example of CP authoritarianism? This whole thing reminds me of the end of animal farm. user talk:Bohdan 00:26, 16 January 2008 (EST)

I think we stay close to our mission even if we use permabans rarely - as in, just against perpetual recidivists. Otherwise, we would be tying our hands and damning ourselves. Our mission remains the same, but it's not a suicide pact. We can't, for the sake of our principles, overlook someone who would destroy the same principles. But next dawn sounds good.-αmεσ (orator) 00:30, 16 January 2008 (EST)

Forsooth, mine fine friend, we have no need of what you call "permabans". Les digits de Pi, or e, for that matter, allow plentious irrational extrapolation beyond our fragile days on this soil and toil! humanUser talk:Human 00:36, 16 January 2008 (EST)
Has the vote ratio even been met? Pinto's5150 Talk 00:40, 16 January 2008 (EST)

Please Review category[edit]

Human! If you need something to keep you busy - and occupy you after the trigger is pulled - I started Category:Please Review, for a few mission-important articles I wrote (crap I sound like Ed Poor) that could benefit from spell checking.-αmεσ (orator) 00:33, 16 January 2008 (EST)

I'm always open for requests to copyedit. And I think we EC'd Bohdan's hilarious commetn above, making my last (EC'd) comment a bit of a non sequitur. Anyway, Jes' give me links. If you want to make that cat "sticky" for me, I guess I'd better put it on my watchlist? humanUser talk:Human 00:38, 16 January 2008 (EST)


As one middle-aged, expatriate Welshman to another. North or South Wales?--Bobbing up 05:48, 16 January 2008 (EST)

South... coal country. humanUser talk:Human 11:11, 16 January 2008 (EST)
My condolences to you both. :-) SusanPurrrrrrr 11:19, 16 January 2008 (EST)
Hey, it was beautiful there! Although I understand Merthyr is getting slagged as "the 5th worst place to live in Britain" these days, I grew up on the side of a mountain just north of that pit. And of course, through the rose-colored glasses of amnesia, I enjoyed an idyllic childhood. My valley was quite green :) humanUser talk:Human 11:47, 16 January 2008 (EST)
Or did you mean condolences for not being there any more? humanUser talk:Human 13:09, 16 January 2008 (EST)
Right I'm from the south too - northern part of Carmarthenshire with the hills and the sheep. Not much else, but hey! What hills! What sheep!--Bobbing up 12:44, 16 January 2008 (EST)
Yes, nice hills, nice sheep - nice quarries & shale pits, too, for fossil hunting. Hey, did you visit the Dan-yr-Ogoff cave? That thing was awesome. How I miss sedimentary rocks... humanUser talk:Human 13:09, 16 January 2008 (EST)
I was there a few years back. I always like visiting caves. Actually I used to do real caving way back when I were a lad. Interesting experience. All basalt where you are now then?--Bobbing up 13:18, 16 January 2008 (EST)
If we're going to get regional about it User:SusanG has no right to talk, coming from the wrong side of the Pennines! Red Roses Rule OK :-) Silver Sloth 13:22, 16 January 2008 (EST)
I'm in a vast wasteland of ancient granite. There is marble in one town in Vermont, but that is the only slightly interesting geological feature around. My dad has slowly gotten way back into his old hobby of fossil hunting now that he has moved South, which is cool. I still have one or two nifty hunks of rock with pictures of plants all over them I "imported" when we emigrated... Oh, and that synthetic quartz thing I took a picture of for crystals was filched from a plant in Merthyr, as I recall. humanUser talk:Human 14:14, 16 January 2008 (EST)
I almost though you said "sedentary rocks" up there, Human. Too bad you didn't, it would've been on par with Ames' "brilliang". :) --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 15:04, 16 January 2008 (EST)
Quite a nice variety where I am actually. Never seen to find any fossils though. Used to find them all the time in the black mountains in Wales. I had a few trilobites. --Bobbing up 15:45, 16 January 2008 (EST)

(u) I'm sure PalMD could prescribe something for the trilobites Bob. I used to have a foot long piece of treefern trunk as a doorstop. SusanPurrrrrrr 16:01, 16 January 2008 (EST)

Anyhow on t' telly last night it sed as how America's named after Richard Americ - a Welshman who sonsored Cabot's little trip. So that's something else to pick on the Welsh for. SusanPurrrrrrr 22:12, 16 January 2008 (EST)
Nice myth. Ever hear of Amerigo Vespucci? humanUser talk:Human 08:38, 17 January 2008 (EST)

This is really random, but some of the best water that you can buy in the states is from Cymru. Pinto's5150 Talk 22:18, 16 January 2008 (EST)

A company is trying to set up to pump a quarter million gallons of our local groundwater to ship to Europe and sell. It's special as long as it comes from "somewhere else"! humanUser talk:Human 08:38, 17 January 2008 (EST)
Somewhere else, in a pretty bottle, and you can charge what you like for it.--Bobbing up 05:00, 18 January 2008 (EST)

Re: Paleoconservative[edit]

I disagree with your idea of moving Paleoconservatism to Paleoconservative. Isn't that the same fallacy Conservapedia made (i.e. Liberal instead of Liberalism)—defining an ideology by its believers rather than its beliefs? --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 15:42, 16 January 2008 (EST)

Do we have enough info to make two articles? If not, they can be combined - but still treated separately? I'll go look now... humanUser talk:Human 15:44, 16 January 2008 (EST)
Wait, my idea? Was this something I did once upon a time? humanUser talk:Human 15:52, 16 January 2008 (EST)
You forgot? Oh well, you are middle-aged. Can't expect a flawless memory from you ;) Anywho, yah, you butted in (to borrow your own words) and proposed moving the article. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 17:22, 16 January 2008 (EST)
OK, all I suggested was a "main" article title. And, as it stands, P-ism is basically two sentences, one defining, and one describing P-cons. Certainly no real need for two article titles yet? Unless you want to enrich the wiki with more info/text/snark? I don't think this is like the CP thing you said above. Unless we had a 400 page p-com article with no balancing p-ism article? Feel free to make both bigger! humanUser talk:Human 19:38, 16 January 2008 (EST)
Why didn't you just comment on the thread at Pinto's talk page, by the way? humanUser talk:Human 08:21, 17 January 2008 (EST)
*Shrugs* Because I'm a banana? --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 12:55, 17 January 2008 (EST)


Will you unblock my actual account? I was blocked for way too long. Thanks in advance, Locke 20:24, 16 January 2008 (EST)

What is the account name? or block # if it was an IP? humanUser talk:Human 20:26, 16 January 2008 (EST)
He's already unblocked, I think. Pinto's5150 Talk 20:26, 16 January 2008 (EST)
You mean you really don't know? Locke 20:27, 16 January 2008 (EST)
I Know Nothing! humanUser talk:Human 20:30, 16 January 2008 (EST)

Human Thoughts[edit]

Do you have MySQL support? I'm bored, so I might as well write some decent software for you. --Linus(plot evil tech) 20:37, 17 January 2008 (EST)

Haha. I did all that before blogs or wikis were invented... it runs on some perl scripts i cobbled together. Perhaps just one, actually. nah, two scripts and a database I manually update if/when I add stuff. Whassamatta with it that MySQL would fix? There's probably support at the host. Oh, and thanks for the offer! humanUser talk:Human 20:39, 17 January 2008 (EST)
Damn you all! I'm spending hours just tweaking the damn blog site because I don't know shit about code! Arghh! 20:44, 17 January 2008 (EST)
Well, you could always ask for help… :)
Human: The host apparently has all the requisites, so that's settled. MySQL is the easiest DBMS to work with with PHP, and I personally find it fun to use. I was thinking that I could write an easy admin function, maybe add comments functionality… should only take me two hours, at most. Tell me if you're interested. --Linus(plot evil tech) 20:51, 17 January 2008 (EST)
Well... the only issue I have is whether I want to rehack the entire site, literally hundreds of files, so the "new" system works. For instance, if I reconfigured it as a blog, my random function would simply be a bloghost feature, and my "categories" would also be. But I'd have to do scores if not hundreds of hours of work - on a site I don't update as much as I used to. The comments aspect is the one thing that is sadly not "built in", of course. Although I have hundreds of emails I could patch in. Well, not, because the "commenters" did not expect to be published. Is there an easy way I could let you play with some of the slightly raw data to show me what you couold pull off? This is the "database" the scripts run from. And of course, the obvious "specific.cgi" formats the framed html output. humanUser talk:Human 21:09, 17 January 2008 (EST)
Yeah, the database looks simple enough. Can you explain how it works, exactly? That is, what does each field do? --Linus(plot evil tech) 21:27, 17 January 2008 (EST)
Ah, never mind, I see you have it commented. I should be able to sort that out. --Linus(plot evil tech) 21:43, 17 January 2008 (EST)
That's the one thing I do reasonably well - I noticed my counter was at about 95,000 the other day, and worried about getting to six digits. So I found the script that runs it, and I had actually explained in English (as opposed to perl) how it worked, and the first thing it does is count the digits in the number its about to increment and output as images. So I had to do nothing. Also, every "article", if you look at the source, has a javascript line forcing the "specific.cgi" version (like it goes, if not "top" then blah blah...". This can, I think, be easily edited out as it's the same in every single file. humanUser talk:Human 08:44, 18 January 2008 (EST)


I was poking around your user page - I like you sense of homo(u)r - and I noticed this link to conservatipedia. Is it one of the funniest parodies ever written, or is it one of the sickest sites on the web? Silver Sloth 09:11, 18 January 2008 (EST)

It is parody - I think the creator came here and told us about it a while ago. humanUser talk:Human 09:20, 18 January 2008 (EST)

Who Is Witness to This?[edit]

Have We Stopped Listening to the Prophets, the Seers and the Sayers?

Ah, yeah. Didn't you get the memo? --Edgerunner76 14:57, 18 January 2008 (EST)
I say we now pursue searing profits. humanUser talk:Human 15:31, 18 January 2008 (EST)
Seared prophets are tough---you have to marinate them for a while first.--PalMD-Did that sound a little harsh? 15:35, 18 January 2008 (EST)
Get Mary to urinate on them? Isn't that a wee bit Catheterolic? humanUser talk:Human 15:36, 18 January 2008 (EST)
They're nice and tender afterwards though.--Bayesupdate 15:44, 18 January 2008 (EST)

Goats and a refutation of creationism, all in one great video![edit]

Pasta Sauce: The Creationist's Nightmare! Note: This video was a response to the video Peanut Butter, The Atheist's Nightmare!. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 22:11, 18 January 2008 (EST)

Block Reasons[edit]

Did you notice RA's additions to the list of common block reasons, Human? --Hans Johnson as in "keep ya hans off my" (cover your eyes!) 17:44, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Yes, were any of them personally directed at you? humanUser talk:Human 17:50, 21 January 2008 (EST)
Well, he ostensibly blocked me for having a naughty name (I think). --Hans Johnson as in "keep ya hans off my" (cover your eyes!) 17:58, 21 January 2008 (EST)
It is! Look at that signature! LOOK AT IT! --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 18:00, 21 January 2008 (EST)
Well, he unblocked you 3 minutes later, and pi * 10^2 seconds is pretty much a "welcome" block around here. At least he didn't demand that you "dance for [him], little man, muwahahahahah!!!", right? humanUser talk:Human 18:01, 21 January 2008 (EST)
Well, that is a pretty funny block reason, if I do say so myself. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 18:04, 21 January 2008 (EST)
Well, you do say so yourself. It does make the dropdown box a bit wide, though. But I'm sure it will come in handy, I get so tired of typing it out. humanUser talk:Human 18:21, 21 January 2008 (EST)
Alright. And to RA, I guess I "return" the welcome. :-) --Hans Johnson as in "keep ya hans off my" (cover your eyes!) 18:13, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Make up your mind![edit]

Human, you stated earlier that I misspelled "judgemental". I then corrected it to "judgmental". You then changed it back to judgemental. My spell check flags "judgemental" as wrong. So which is it?! --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 18:11, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Mea culpa, I'm so sorry, you're right. I suppose I deserve a summary block for unfunny vandalism for that! Can you just upload your version again, I hope? When I hit "save" PSP loses my "undo" history :( humanUser talk:Human 18:22, 21 January 2008 (EST)
How could I have forgotten so much in only a week? humanUser talk:Human 18:24, 21 January 2008 (EST)
No, I won't block you. How 'bout I just torture you with a sockpuppet that's a palindrome of your name? -- ni ebnamuħ   18:26, 21 January 2008 (EST)
OH NOOEEESSSSSS!!@!!!#!#!shiftplusoneOMGZZZZ The dreaded Numah tracked me even here!!! humanUser talk:Human 18:37, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Hey, you know you can just overwrite an image, right? No need to keep making new ones. No big deal, either, but still... humanUser talk:Human 18:42, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Only a true follower of the Dark Lord would withhold such valuable information from me until it was too late... -- ni ebnamuħ   18:56, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Unwelcome template[edit]

Hey, Human, I made a variation of the Welcome template, for those users whose edits, shall we say, counterproductive?

New logo large.png Your welcome to RationalWiki is lukewarm at best, Human.

This observation is due to the nature of your initial edits. Pull up a goat and try not to make trouble.

We realize it is possible that you do not understand the nature of the site or our objectives.

Please see our guide for newcomers and our community standards to clarify things for you.

If you're still interested in contributing, please see what our articles are intended to be.

I can't escape the feeling that it should be harsher... --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 01:05, 23 January 2008 (EST)

Heh, I could use that. No need for harsh, I like "lukewarm". It needs another line or two of text (or some BR's) to make the box tall enough to contain the brains properly. How about a second line that says "This observation is based on your initial editing pattern." I'll go play with it - good idea, by the way. I think. humanUser talk:Human 10:22, 23 January 2008 (EST)

Re: Help[edit]

I put some verbiage on RationalWiki:Help you might like to check out (I can't see it as a table so ?) SusanPurrrrrrr 12:00, 23 January 2008 (EST)


Do you just change your signature a lot or is there some way to generate a changing one? SirChuckBCall the FBI 14:22, 23 January 2008 (EST)

Look at the source of user:human/sigtalk to see what I'm doing. It's a randomised thing. If you reload a page I've signed, you'll see the talk links change, usually. I believe we also have a help file detailing some ways to customize signatures. humanUser talk:Human 14:30, 23 January 2008 (EST)
Thanks for all your help.... It took a bit, but I finally got it to work correctly SirChuckB
You have an unclosed option tag after "clever", and see what I suggested at your talk page to make thing more compact. Otherwise, nice work! humanUser talk:Human 14:14, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Thanks again for all your help..... I may have taken over the recent changes page, but I got it done.... I really have to remember to use that preview button.... SirChuckBThat is all 14:39, 24 January 2008 (EST)

You're welcome, and, hey, you got it done, nice work. Even with previewing I still always notice two typos after I hit "save"! humanUser talk:Human 15:04, 24 January 2008 (EST)
It's really strange, I'm an HTML guy so this Wikicode throws me of... I'm starting to get the hang of it.... but it's a long, slow process SirChuckBThat is all 15:18, 24 January 2008 (EST)
A lot of html works in MW. Ironically, there is no "center" tag in MW. Guess Wikipedia didn't want people centering things. What is frustrating is figuring out how MW and html "play together". And I wish we could add to those buttons above the edit box... humanUser talk:Human 15:21, 24 January 2008 (EST)
I'll look into that. --Linus(plot evil tech) 20:22, 24 January 2008 (EST)
Cool! Will you ask me for my "wish list" if you figure out how? heck, WP has another ten or so next to the "stock" ones...

Quickie wish list:

  • <center>text to be centered</center>
  • ==References and notes==
    • <references/> (you know how sick I get of typing those two lines?)
  • redirect
  • default sort
  • [[category:]]

And I know there are others! humanUser talk:Human 20:29, 24 January 2008 (EST)

humanUser talk:Human 20:29, 24 January 2008 (EST)

My wish list:
  • money
  • power
  • world domination
  • a pony
Can I assume Linus will work on these as well? --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 20:41, 24 January 2008 (EST)
What the hell:
  • Andrew Schlafly gets bitten by a shark, struck by lightning, and trampled by a crowd of communists, multiple times in the same day. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 20:41, 24 January 2008 (EST)
And he left his darn gun at home or in the car where it couldn't save him. humanUser talk:Human 20:46, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Wish fulfillment (sort of)[edit]

Hey, Human, I found a way to center text!

<span><center>text here</center></span>

The only problem is that it creates an aesthetically unpleasing gap (about three lines big) between the centered text and any following (uncentered) text. But still a temporary solution, no? --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 21:10, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Um, <center>text</center> works fine, but there's no wiki code "easy way" to do it. Like, say , or ;;;text;;; or some such easy shit. Or a button in the edit portfolio. But thanks for helpin'!!! humanUser talk:Human 23:29, 25 January 2008 (EST)

Wow, whatever I typed there invoked some awesome wiki crap we don't know about! It was either my invented [c] tag or the triple semicolons. Nowiki'd them both to make things play well together. humanUser talk:Human 23:29, 25 January 2008 (EST)

<div align="center">Centered text</div> --Linus(plot evil tech) 23:33, 25 January 2008 (EST)
Yeah, there are a thousand ways, but why not ''''''text'''''' or somesuch in MediaWiki??? OK, that's not the best example, but still. How about !!text!! ? Or cc text cc? humanUser talk:Human 23:39, 25 January 2008 (EST)
Presumably because MediaWiki was written for Wikipedia. --Linus(plot evil tech) 23:45, 25 January 2008 (EST)
Yes, and as I initially whined elsewhere, apparently, the wiki 'cyclopedia does NOT WANT THEIR EDITORS TO CENTER ANYTHING. Can we get teh assfly to work on this? Another example of wikipedia bias: All text MUST be "left justified", NO RIGHT, not even CENTER is allowed. Damn lib'rul cyclopedias, they revert ALL MY FACTUAL EDITS!!! humanUser talk:Human 23:50, 25 January 2008 (EST)


H. I'm gonna play for an hour - can you ( & anyone else who reads this ) hold off everything I edit for a bit. Thanks. SusanPurrrrrrr 20:14, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Sure... whatcha breaking? humanUser talk:Human 20:19, 24 January 2008 (EST)
Me not know enough to break anything, see User:SusanG/delta SusanPurrrrrrr 21:34, 24 January 2008 (EST)
( Eggsellent wikisig tutorial. SusanPurrrrrrr 21:47, 24 January 2008 (EST) )
orlyktx, I thought I made it more complicated... quoting Paul in the Let It Be movie... let's make it complicated first, then simplify it... fuck, why do some young geniuses also have to be bastids? humanUser talk:Human 22:23, 24 January 2008 (EST)
You talking about me? :-) --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 22:39, 24 January 2008 (EST)
Um, no. Sorry :( Or, maybe. If you so smaht, spend some brains on social skillz. cf. Paul's endless later-life apologies for being a bit hard to get along with when he wuz younger. His excuse? He helped make the Beatles what they were. Mine? Yours? Not so good, eh? humanUser talk:Human 23:03, 24 January 2008 (EST)
The Beatles are for old people. :) --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 03:46, 25 January 2008 (EST)
Old people, vhen ve vere young, yah, no? humanUser talk:Human 10:23, 25 January 2008 (EST)