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I liked your trolling of that faux-socialist server. "What is your political ideology"? "#Trump2020." Nice. Oxyaena Poke me 14:29, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Result: Immediate ban XD —RWRW (talk) 14:38, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
B& — Dysk (contribs) 15:49, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Admitting when you're wrong is hard[edit]

I was absolutely 100% sure you'd be a terrible moderator. Given evidence to the contrary, I need to reform my views. You've done fine. And I wish to apologize for being wrong, too. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 19:32, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Well thank you, that was very nice to hear :D --RWRW (talk) 19:38, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
I won't say that I disagree with @Ikanreed, however I do still find some things about your behavior disturbing: you have made no significant mainspace contributions despite my repeated encouragement (e.g., Draft:Philippe Pétain went nowhere), you seem to have a knee-jerk support for conservatives that I've seen on (I think) two occasions, and your logical disjunction vis-à-vis Brexit and human rights (above). Bongolian (talk) 20:31, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Wait, RWRW, you're doing a Petain draft? Damn, I was going to do that. Mind if I try to work on it? RoninMacbeth (talk) 20:32, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
@Bongolian to be fair I did watch The Sorrow and The Pity after you recommended it and I am still intending on working on it, but yeah my work ethic is somewhat questionable.
@RoninMacbeth Go for it, it might motivate me to help out as well. --RWRW (talk) 20:57, 12 March 2019 (UTC)


Alright, so I added a little bit more information. I won't have much time over the next week or so to help, but I hope it should be a solid enough base to work with. RoninMacbeth (talk) 05:06, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Its looking pretty good. I'll see what I can add over the next few days. --RWRW (talk) 12:34, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
@DuceMoosolini I moved the article to mainspace. It seems fleshed out enough. Bongolian (talk) 18:17, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
@Bongolian Okay, but why are you pinging me about that? I don't remember ever having edited that draft. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 21:02, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
You made a small edit in April. I should have pinged @RoninMacbeth. Bongolian (talk) 00:22, 7 May 2019 (UTC)


"Logged in everyday since attempting this 'break'"[edit]

Don't worry, you're not the only one. I tried to do two breaks in late 2017, both were over relatively quickly. RoninMacbeth (talk) 16:10, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Ha ha that is good to hear. I just accepted my fate that I wasn’t going to be able to stay away for 2 weeks. —RWRW (talk) 17:29, 9 May 2019 (UTC)


@UnlicensedThinker what's your thoughts on the EU, if you don't mind me asking? --RWRW (talk) 14:13, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

It's a too broad question for a straight answer. Oversimplifying, traveling is a bit more easy (like having a passport was something difficult...); you don't have to change your currency in every state (but unless you live in Germany your currency has lost a lot of value...); bureaucracy and regulations are growing exponentially for being constantly disregarded; citizens have less and less control on how their taxes are spent; every state leader is pro-immigration as long as the migrants goes to another EU state. Thinker(unlicensed) 19:19, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Fair enough. Seems like a rational view of it. I've always been of the view that the good (easy travel etc) is outweighed by the bad. --RWRW (talk) 11:45, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
I read your essay and yes, although it is focused on UK, most of what you have written applies to the other EU countries. Thinker(unlicensed) 19:48, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Why not just wipe the slate clean with nukes and start over? It would do humanity a lot of good. Dr. Ox quack specialist 20:57, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Ha all of humanity or just Europe? --RWRW (talk) 10:57, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
All of humanity would be a good start. — Dysk (contribs) 11:37, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
and theres me thinking brexit was insane. i hadnt realised nukes were an option AMassiveGay (talk) 11:54, 15 May 2019 (UTC)


You've been nominated to the RationalMedia Foundation election. Please accept or decline here; if you accept, you may wish to campaign. (talk) 23:15, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Are you thinking of forming an exploratory committee to run? nobsI'm all yea'res 18:13, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Lol @Nobs maybe, but before then I'm going to get me a beer.
@71.3 I appreciate the nomination, and I'll ponder on it for a couple of days, but I very likely won't run. I don't think there's much I could offer the Board and I don't think I would enjoy it. --RWRW (talk) 20:57, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Oddly, it was that video that caused me to turn on Warren. Don't trust anybody who drinks alone (learned that as a child), and certainly somebody whose own husband won't drink with her. nobsI'm all yea'res


....your pendulum wobble to and fro? Oxyaena Harass 18:27, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Maybe. We shall see if Boris keeps his promise or whether a return to the Brexit Party is necessary. Fake Conservatives such as Phillip Lee have defected to the Lib Dems meaning the Conservatives have lost their majority, Its going to be an eventful few weeks in British politics. --RWRW (talk) 18:46, 3 September 2019 (UTC)


I’m on holiday and will have limited internet access for the next week. —RWRW (talk) 14:30, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Have fun! Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 14:33, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
@DuceMoosolini Thank you! It was a good week. --RWRW (talk) 15:51, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


Thanks for paying attention to what I was saying on the mod page. It's kind of interesting that the people who are doing these blocks call a moderator a concern troll when you have specifically been asked to weigh in on something as a mod. Acei9 19:33, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I don’t think GC likes me very much. To further clarify my position, I tend to agree with you that blocking/binning users for first time offenses, editing tests, ignorance of Wiki rules etc is inappropriate. But I’m not in favour of taking no action against socks of banned users. --RWRW (talk) 20:32, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
But there is an issue there - how do you know they are socks. Yes some are obvious but Oxy in particular likes to block users stating it's a sock without any real evidence. Is there a check user or is it the abusefilter extension at play here? Otherwise "evading ban" is broadly used when it really shouldn't be. And who gives a fuck who GC likes or doesn't like. Acei9 20:50, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
There is no Checkuser and, to my knowledge, no editfiler. But certain ban evaders are easy to spot. Wikipedia uses the duck test and that can be applied here. For example if someone is spamming 'Videos For People' stuff then its going to be Logicnsuch, if someone is complaining about Oxy and Dysk and creating pages of alt-righters he's had a Twitter feud with then its going to be Oliver Smith, if someone is vandalising Enchanted13's talkpage its going to be Elvis is King etc. --RWRW (talk) 21:14, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
I can understand that but the contribs I pointed out were examples of that logic taken too broadly. Secondly - are the techs or mods able to see and match IP's? Acei9 21:21, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Checkuser is not installed on rationalwiki's server. Purposeful choice. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 21:28, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
I know that - I have been here since the start. The question I asked was are the techs or mods able to check/match IP's? Acei9 21:30, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
That's what checkuser does. And as a tech, I'm telling you, no. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 21:33, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
I know what checkuser is but that isn't the only way so I want to know if the techs and/or mods can see or match IP's. Acei9 22:21, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
If you already know the IP then you can probably use some external geolocation tool, but there is no way of doing that to an account unless they reveal their IP. --RWRW (talk) 22:37, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
So no one user, tech, mod or otherwise, is able to see my IP (for example)? Acei9 23:14, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Yes. That's one advantage to having an account rather than editing under an IP. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 23:18, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

You fuck[edit]

You've been nominated in the upcoming moderator elections. See the nomination at RationalWiki:Moderator elections/Nominations. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 02:26, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Oh boy, here we go again--RWRW (talk) 10:56, 2 November 2019 (UTC)


We need more old guard. Thanks. Acei9 21:07, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

No problem --RWRW (talk) 01:30, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Milton Friedman[edit]

Hi. I dropped the category "authoritharian wingnuttery" from Milton Friedman article, but the user GrammarCommie reverted my edit. I was trying to argue with him, but he just made a buch of scarecrows (he even accused Friedman of being an ancap!) and said he won't drop his edit because "everyone who endorses capitalism is a wingnut". Is there something you can do? Thanks 2804:14C:5B72:8664:19DC:5A8B:4A6D:F004 (talk) 02:09, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi BoN professor! I see you're still dishonest/intellectually lazy! Please stop being either! Bye!! ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:16, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
And for the record, you removed the "Libertarian Wingnuttery" (not the Authoritarian Wingnuttery category as you've just now claimed) I argued that anyone who supports Privatization and strong deregulation is a wingnut. Mainly because those are the types of people who support those policies. You know, sort of like how left wingers tend to support workers rights, unionization, and egalitarian social polices... Also, it's kind of telling that you went from complaining to someone who's mid-left to the farthest right person you could find... ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:27, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Wow, you're really pissed, huh? I didn't even know he was a right wing, I just saw his name on the sysop list. You know you didn't say that, stop lying, you listed a lot more about Milton Friedman that isn't right. We both know you said he would even privatize the fireworking.
You know, sort of like how left wingers tend to support workers rights, unionization, and egalitarian social polices...
So, does that mean everyone endorsing these is a wingnut? No, there are many good arguments for them (Even Hayek said that egalitarianism is a best argument for government intervention, not that you have read anything about him, or Friedman or any other author, of course). Stop being a fringe and a crank, let those who studied the subject have a serious opinion, or at least read a book. I don't know if you work, but see this pandemic as an opportunity to learn a bit. 2804:14C:5B72:8664:19DC:5A8B:4A6D:F004 (talk) 02:55, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
So, you came in here and whined to a moderator instead of bringing up your arguments on the article's talk page? Strike one. So, you continue your whines on the moderator's talk page, and toss in some irrelevant nonsense about a pandemic? Strike two. Accusing another editor of being a fringe and a crank? Get lost. Cosmikdebris (talk) 03:17, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
I mean, I would let you have your delusions, but you're kind of lying about me so... ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:24, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
And I'm not angry, I'm amused. I also just brought up an easy example of privatization that I suspected you'd argue against, which is why I made several other examples which you ignored. So, yeah. You're dishonest. I have the edit logs to prove it. Um... Hmm... *Checks own user privileges* oh! I'm a SysOp too! Did you perchance mean Moderator? Because I'll confess I was that at the time too. Now I'm not. Hmm... Anyway, where was I? Oh yes!! Have fun being dishonest, just quit strawmanning me. That shouldn't be too hard should it? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:29, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Yesn't. Oxyaena Harass 09:36, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
There are worse things to be called than a wingnut. Being called a moonbat, for example, is quite a burn. And yeah, this should probably be settled on the Milton Friedman talkpage, not here. --RWRW (talk) 21:16, 23 March 2020 (UTC)


Was pretty responsible clarification. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 23:24, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 23:25, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Still, nothing Trump has done comes anywhere near to being as bad as OBAMAGATE, the greatest scandal any of us have ever seen. --RWRW (talk) 23:33, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
I thought it was you, Nobs! Bongolian (talk) 01:15, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
I guess I'm busted. --RWRW Free Roger Stone! 02:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Your favorite song[edit]

Oxyaena Harass 02:32, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, it is pretty good. I don't know about favourite though. I've always been pretty fond of Africa by Toto. --RWRW (talk) 09:39, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

You fuck[edit]

Nominated you for Board. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 00:58, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, @DuceMoosolini, but I don't think being on the board is for me. --RWRW (talk) 13:30, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


Thank you for the heads up. I'll have the election results posted shortly. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 19:40, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

No problem. --RWRW (talk) 20:31, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
For anyone else reading this, User:Ze won’t be acting as a returning officer in the RMF election and Cosmikdebris will be doing it alone. --RWRW (talk) 20:31, 24 August 2020 (UTC)


There is no rule against proxy votes and its been done before. That user is eligible to vote so it's legitimate. — Z 21:22, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Coop vote[edit]

RWRW, I think you have to fix you vote in the coop, it looks like you voted twice. nobsBlack Guns Matter 02:08, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

I fixed it. Bongolian (talk) 02:42, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. --RWRW (talk) 10:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

What was the coop result?[edit]

See title.--HedvigsenSkreonk here 08:54, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Ban failed. Topic ban for me, Oxy and GC succeeded.Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 08:56, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Topic ban? What is that?--HedvigsenSkreonk here 09:28, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
This is the vote on the proposal to ban GR, GrammarCommie, and Oxyaena from reverting or making edits to articles related to far-left politics and ideology.Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 09:30, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
^ --RWRW (talk) 12:44, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Mod nomination[edit]

Nominated you. Techpriest (I am Alpharius! / Pencil.png / Tux icon.png / Shield.png) 17:24, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, @Sirius, I accept. --RWRW (talk) 22:50, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


Goat icon.png Congratulations on your demotion to RationalWiki moderator on 2 December 2020. Thank you for your service to the wiki, and good luck the goat herding voyage on which you have embarked.

cosmikdebris talk stalk 03:01, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! --RWRW (talk) 04:31, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Congrats on winning a third term, Mr. Moderator! --Goatspeed. Watch me🎃CircularREmail2.gifasoning🎃Prototype lab 05:44, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, and congratulations on your win too! --RWRW (talk) 07:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Good luck man![edit]

Getting back to real life? I'm a bit envious, so I am. (Having a hobby besides this place... maybe I SHOULD move out of my mother's basement?) Take care, RWRW. - Rairyu75 (Talk) 19:46, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

It’s still not quite as good as before. I used to find myself at the pub almost every week, but I think I’ve only been twice since ‘freedom day’. But it’s a start. Eh, I can think of a few benefits of living in your mothers basement, like not having to pay council tax. --RWRW (talk) 08:39, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

In case you wanted it[edit]

You've been nominated in the upcoming moderator elections. See the nomination at RationalWiki:Moderator elections/Nominations. Correkt (talk) 19:39, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Appreciate it, but I’ll sit this one out. Perhaps I’ll make a grand come-back bid next year. --RWRW (talk) 10:40, 3 November 2021 (UTC)