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::According to her [[wp:Victoria Jackson|Wikipedia entry] she's a genuine. Whether she's that dumb or simply using it as a comic political ploy, I don't know but she probably believes what she's saying. {{User:Lily The Pink/sig}} 09:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
::According to her [[wp:Victoria Jackson|Wikipedia entry] she's a genuine. Whether she's that dumb or simply using it as a comic political ploy, I don't know but she probably believes what she's saying. {{User:Lily The Pink/sig}} 09:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
== 4chan... ==
i want to see that place BURN! along with ED.
People who make fun of rape victim and cripple doesn't deserve to live.
How can they find laughing at rape victim "funny" ? these people along with their ringleader "moot" deserve to be beaten to death.[[User:Waronstupidity|Waronstupidity]] ([[User talk:Waronstupidity|talk]]) 09:29, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

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Pointless poll

Who is the biggest traitor to the United States?

Aaron Burr (plotted to steal part of the US to form his own country with British help)3Vote
Aldrich Ames (sold out more than 100 CIA agents to the Soviets)26Vote
Benedict Arnold (turned against the US in the Revolutionary War)2Vote
Donald Trump (attempted to stage a coup by sic-ing a bunch of braindead wannabe Nazis who literally think they're the CSA on the Capitol building, all because he didn't like the results of the election he actually lost fair and square no matter how many times he says otherwise- this is all from the same guy who has the audacity to lecture "the libs" on patriotism)28Vote
Gerald C. MacGuire (plotted to overthrow FDR and install a dictator)1Vote
Jefferson Davis (president of the Confederacy)71Vote
Joe Dresnok (defected to North Korea to serve as a propagandist)0Vote
John Tyler (former US president who joined the Confederacy)1Vote
John Walker, Jr. (sold info about the US nuclear arsenal and Vietnam War operations to the Soviets)3Vote
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg (gave nuclear secrets to the USSR, which helped them build the Bomb)8Vote
Martin James Monti (US pilot who defected to Nazi Germany and joined the SS)3Vote
Robert E. Lee (led the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia)6Vote
Michael Flynn (Avocating terrorist plot to install Trump as a dictator)3Vote
Me (I personally want to overthrow the US government myself and replace it with communism, killing all the centrists and rich people)2Vote
Me (I personally want to overthrow the US government and replace it with a hereditary dictatorship ruled by the Trump family)1Vote
Me (I personally want to overthrow the US government and replace it with complete anarchy! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!!!111!!!SHIFT1!!SHIFToneeleventyone11!!!1!)6Vote

What is the best solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict?

Two state solution68Vote
Three state solution (return Palestine to Egypt and Jordan)9Vote
Three state solution (separate states for Israel, Gaza and the West Bank)4Vote
One state solution (binational)35Vote
One state solution (Israeli dominance)13Vote
One state solution (Palestinian dominance)10Vote
Maintain the status quo3Vote
I don’t think the conflict can be solved22Vote
All states are illegitimate and must be abolished for there to be lasting peace41Vote
One state solution (Goat dominance)1Vote
Just have a meteor wipe out all people on Earth and end it already!2Vote
Idk, all of these ideas are shit3Vote
To do list


ok, this not vandalism but question. when i say "cheerleader" what do you think? i honestly want to know. :) oh and reverting this legitimate thread implies you are incapable of thinking.— Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

oh and reverting this legitimate thread implies you are incapable of thinking. What a crock of shit. The burden of proof is not that slight--Opcn (talk) 07:29, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


Damn uncyclopedia/dramatica!

I think i need to stop going there...these people are hateful and offensive but at least they do it for everyone(no favoritism) but still...i hate these people!Waronstupidity (talk) 04:50, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

I like going there but they have really creepy ads that make me look weird when people walk in my room. TKEtoolshedFrag Out! 05:14, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
i think they need to get a life... i never saw so many Disgusting and offending article on any-other place... even /b/ are nicer, that why i wont go there anymore these people are fucking asshole. Waronstupidity (talk) 05:20, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Well it has been said that RationalWiki is an over-glorified /b/. - π 05:48, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
A but what about /g/ at RW? I just made /g/ up. Perhaps it stands for "goat". — Unsigned, by: Bob M / talk / contribs
And at the height of the troll-baiting and bickering, it is. Scarlet A.pngnarchist 17:52, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Some stuff over there is gold, but I can't hang. Those people are creepier than you guys, and I'm creeped out enough here as it is. ED is the creepiest place next to a /b/. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 18:40, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Obviously nor enough time on the net if RW qualifies as creepy. -- CodyH (talk) 08:39, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Dramatica's ads are pretty creepy, but hey, that's why WhatPort80 was created. Tisane (talk) 06:49, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Icelandic ash

Bloody hell. First they fuck our economony, and now they're buggering up our flight schedules as well! What gives? Disclaimer: joke. Not blaming anything on the people of Iceland CrundyTalk nerdy to me 08:05, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Just on that - without wanting to sound all conspiracy thingy - is it just me, but have there been an awful lot of big earthquakes this year? --PsyGremlinFale! 17:29, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
I've been thinking that too, and I'm surprised there haven't been conspiracy theories about it (that I've seen, at least). Tetronian you're clueless 18:17, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
i saw one on a youtube comment, blaming it all on HAARP, but that's fairly standard for YT. Where's David Icke when we need him? Hiding in his secret base with his infrasonic earthquake device, that's where! Totnesmartin (talk) 18:53, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
And last year, remember the big tsunami was caused by a big earthquake, right? Or was that late '08? Either way, yeah. It's probably just a fluke though, but they could be related geologically. ħumanUser talk:Human 21:41, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
2004 you mean? Boxing Day? Missed it by a day - left Phi Phi to have Xmas on the mainland. --PsyGremlinParlez! 13:26, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Hey! a plane just flew overhead. Admittedly a small single engined thing, but the skies are open? yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 15:43, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
IIRC it only affects stuff at the sort of altitudes jet engines fly at: low-flying planes aren't affected. Bastard drug Hoover! 13:29, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Just been out photographing the setting sun: big bright orange ball. yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 19:15, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
I don't think it's just the altitude, I think the type of engine is also relevant as jets suck in enormous amounts of air. But I'm just a simple girly so what do I know? Wait, I know just the person to ask!  Lily Inspirate me. 10:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

An interesting poll on U.S. taxes

http://www.aei.org/docLib/AEIPublicOpinionTaxes2010April.pdf Where's the Teabagger's God now?Ryantherebel (talk) 19:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

That's a TL;DR if ever I saw one. Know of any blogs interpreting the document and providing charts? (talk) 11:56, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Fascinating. Especially as it is provided by AEI, a conservative stink tank. ħumanUser talk:Human 04:47, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

UK election survey

A survey which tells you who to vote for here. EddyP (talk) 20:58, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

That gives 10% to the BNP and nearly 30% to the Greens, please don't implement this system ever. Scarlet A.pngnarchist 21:13, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
I have little confidence in a survey that claims " ... @gmail.com" isn't a valid email address. yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 21:17, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Consider that in the UK GMail is called Google Mail, so try @googlemail.co(m|.uk). Bastard drug Hoover! 21:32, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
That was my first attempt, I retried with "gmail" (either works: it's a legacy from someone domain squatting yonks ago I believe) PH. I'm 25% Conservative, 25% Libdem & 50% Green (who aren't standing here!) yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 21:41, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Being able to vote doesn't seem to be all it's cracked up to be. Bastard drug Hoover! 21:47, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
It seems to have failed just after I clicked "submit", which is a shame. I was looking forward to finding out that I was actually a closet BNP member... Scarlet A.pngnarchist 21:34, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Same for me. Must have been overloaded by the sudden influx of Rationalwikians. Broccoli (talk) 22:42, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm 3 parts Lib-Dem, 1 part green. I think that is a fair assessment.  Lily Inspirate me. 10:38, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Aimchair psychologie?

WTF is it? can someone give me an explanation since i am officially the village idiot of this wiki. Waronstupidity (talk) 23:43, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Let me Google that for you... Tetronian you're clueless 23:48, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
(ec - google's results are not good enough for a lmgtf) http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=armchair%20psychologist -- Nx / talk 23:49, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
thanks. Waronstupidity (talk) 23:50, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
(EC) @Nx: Damn, I was hoping to trap him into going to TVTropes, which was the first result. I never visit there anymore, since it's once you start it's impossible to stop. Tetronian you're clueless 23:51, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
On a completely unrelated topic, Firefox has a built in spell checker Me!Sheesh!Mine! 01:32, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Premusably he(?)'s using a French Canadian version though. yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 01:47, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
His spelling is passable, but he has a very poor grasp on English grammar. Bastard drug Hoover! 07:23, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Support this excellent artist

Good teeshirt could be official RW teeshirt. DogPMarmite Patrol 01:00, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Horrid model, though. yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 01:06, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
One of these days I will eventually get around to making a real RW t-shirt with the brain logo and all that. Someday. Tetronian you're clueless 02:15, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
We have the logo. We even have animations. But we still haven't got around to posting anything onto Cafe Press. I think a brain logo on a mug with the phrase "You don't have to be rational to work here, but it helps" sort of thing. Scarlet A.pngnarchist 11:16, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Brain logo with random slogan, plus "rationalwiki.com" of course. Trouble with cafepress, as I understand it, is if you don't sell some shit pretty quickly, they remove it. How about we just post some nice hi-rez printable shit here, and everyone buys color inkjets and iron-on paper? Works well. ħumanUser talk:Human 04:37, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
But will the brain logo scale to a bigger size? Šţěŗĭļė handstand 03:21, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I think the current version might - wasn't the brain image built from a, um, whatever that scalable format is? ħumanUser talk:Human 11:55, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
The current logo is from a 3D model of a brain, not an SVG. Bastard drug Hoover! 12:06, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Pfft, if there is no God, than there'd be nothing stopping me from making a million pirated copies of that shirt and giving them to every rw person fo free. What, you say cops are a reason? Pfft, I'd be on the first flight to Sweden where they say there are no copyright laws. Or maybe some remote place in the African jungle... (talk) 04:33, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

You WILL listen to this...

...in its entirety. Then you will click this link and skip to 1:45 and listen until the end of the song (crucial that you listen to the very end of it, startig at 5:10). And then you will come back and comment how awesome they both are. Capiche? --The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 01:07, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Meh, nice, but tl;dl. ħumanUser talk:Human 08:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Guess what some schools in Mississippi are still doing

It's 2010!--Thanatos (talk) 01:56, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm, frankly, not surprised. Just because de jure segregation is illegal doesn't mean de facto segregation doesn't exist. Especially in the Deep South. The Spikey Punk I'm punking my punk! 02:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Makes me think of the old jokes about rejected state mottos:
Mississippi: Come feel better about your state.
Alabama: At least we're not Mississippi...
I mean hell, look at the prom incident a few weeks back. --Ravenhull (talk) 12:18, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Good Rational Podcasts?

Anybody know good rational/skeptic/etc podcasts that are worth downloading. I work by myself on a midnight shift, so I've found podcasts something that help pass the time. I have found a few decent ones, such as The Reality Check by the Ottawa Skeptics and such. This would also seem to be a good article fodder for RW, for alongside the YouTube list. --Ravenhull (talk) 03:09, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

I've been enjoying The Atheist Experience podcast, which is just the audio of the weekly TV broadcast, for a long time. You can get it off iTunes or elsewhere. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 04:52, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Ja, Atheist Experience is pretty good. Non-Prophets Radio is also worth a look. A Christian and an Atheist is interesting, if only to learn a bit more about modrate Christianity. Point of Inquiry has some interesting guests, but I find it to be very hit or miss. ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 09:10, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
have a look here. The Skeptics' Guide to the universe archives. --PsyGremlinParlez! 09:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Looking over my iPhone, I currently have episodes of The Conspiracy Skeptic, Rationally Speaking, The Reality Check, Skepticality, The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe, Skeptoid, and Token Skeptic. Definately a wide variety of styles and content. I will say that I've enjoyed Reality Check because they present a rather fun atmosphere. Overall, I've found good in all of these that I've heard. --Ravenhull (talk) 09:55, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
You could try righteous indignation for some good stuff. On an associated point the BBC has a good selection of science and nature podcasts. Sticking with the BBC and a little off topic the daily "Friday" vote now podcast making fun of the British election is hilarious. --BobSpring is sprung! 10:13, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
OK, I have created Rational podcasts. Please link to your favourites.--BobSpring is sprung! 14:22, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, The Skeptic's Guide is very good. Nature also has some great podcasts. Corry (talk) 04:08, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Help! Help, HELP!

I have had Wu-Tang Clan's "Bring Da Ruckus" from Enter the Wu-Tang: The 36 Chambers stuck in my head for at least three days. Normally, this wouldn't be a bad thing, but I'm waking up in the middle of the night muttering "Bring Da motherfuckin' ruckus" over and over again. I don't know if I can keep this level of intensity up much longer and I find it HIGHLY inappropriate to be bobbing my head to the tune while changing my son's diaper. The Foxhole Atheist (talk) 18:32, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Try this song - [1] ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ secret trainer of penguins! 18:45, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
"This video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." Bloody Australia.  Lily Inspirate me. 02:47, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
I had this beat stuck in my head for a few days...maybe we can switch them? — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 18:49, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Apparently this is the best song to sing to get another song outta ones head. SJ Debaser 19:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
You are all bastards. Now I have some weird mishmash of four songs, all of which I hate (well, strongly dislike), and shant be sleeping tonight because of it. Aboriginal Noise with 4 M's and a silent Q 20:40, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
But, here. Get this out of yer headz. Aboriginal Noise with 4 M's and a silent Q 20:43, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
only cure , not "achy breaky heart" cause you not in a coma, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA (talk) 21:22, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
What a waste of a great voice. ħumanUser talk:Human 03:27, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

None of you can complain. I have had the hold music from a hospital stuck in my head for days. Corry (talk) 04:11, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

three years ago i looked up the words to I've Got A Lovely Bunch of Coconuts, and that's been my earworm ever since. This might explain a lot actually... Totnesmartin (talk) 11:49, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
I've always found the opening line from Aga do do do to be the most effective mental flypaper. --PsyGremlinTal! 11:59, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Ah, shaddap you face. Real first name and last initial (talk) 12:11, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

The evil one's come to sort us out (?)

The Iceland volcano by radar. Now that's really pareidolia. yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 23:24, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

If skulls could have hairlips, that would be the image I'm seeing. Aboriginal Noise with 4 M's and a silent Q 02:38, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm seeing the rabbit from Donnie Darko. Scarlet A.pngnarchist 11:25, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Really? How did you meet? Totnesmartin (talk) 17:02, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Thunderf00t vs Ray Comfort (sticky)

Here is a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2FskTKrx40 Mei (talk) 23:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
For people who have not seen it. Mei (talk) 23:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Too good to let it go to archives so fast. Thanks everyone for the fish, and especially to Mei for being useful. ħumanUser talk:Human 08:48, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Rationalwiki Volcano Club

Anyone else affected by this? I've just heard that my flight back from Perth to Manchester has been cancelled and because of the backlog I don't know when they'll be able to get me home. It's amazing how many people have been affected and things like fresh veg and flowers which are flown in from Africa have been put on hold which consequently affects villagers in Kenya who are being temporarily laid off. (Not that I really agree with flying packets of beans half-way round the world).  Lily Inspirate me. 11:31, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Both of my real life friends are out of the country, and at least one of them can't get back because of this. Bastard drug Hoover! 11:37, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
It's light out here. I'm not sure if that is on-topic. Also, some prick has got his shorts in a bind over on WP at me, I don't know why. I suspect neither of these issues have to do with Iceland, but one never knows. ħumanUser talk:Human 11:58, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
My aunt is in Italy with her family, her holiday's supposed to end today, so I don't know if she's gonna be able to get back. Lily, aren't you from Liverpool, not Manchester? SJ Debaser 13:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Ha! She's got me all jealous: see here yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 13:24, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

(aside) This place is getting ridiculous, it's turning into a fiction factory: somewhere Human claimed to have a friend and now PH says he's got two. (Lil's tale is obviously wishful thinking.) yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 13:30, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

If it's any consolation Toast, I don't have any friends. SJ Debaser 13:36, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
And I haven't met one of my friends in months. Bastard drug Hoover! 13:41, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
EC) Obviously, Josh, as a true nerd who's on t'internet 24 hours/day you and I and indeed everyone here don't have not no friends. Can't stand these folk what live in another reality. yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 13:43, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Reality is so overrated anyway. I ventured into it earlier on this afternoon and there were too many people there. I only bother with it when a group of my social associates (not "friends") are at the pub. And who's to say that's a real thing? SJ Debaser 13:50, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Hate to tell you this Josh, but what you think of as "reality" is just a butterfly having a dream. Now, do you want the red pill or the blue pill? And on a related subject, it takes a very special person to go, "Oh look, a live volcano! Let's go and live on top of it." --PsyGremlinSpeak! 14:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
And the air they breathe just burns your lungs anyway... ħumanUser talk:Human 14:07, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
"Friend?" What is a "friend" anyways? Tetronian you're clueless 15:01, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Anybody who replies to, or comments on anything I say on a blog/forum/wiki/facebook/4chan/myspace/twitter/e-mail/irc is my friend. But then, I don't have high standards. --PsyGremlinParla! 15:06, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
You know who else has low standards? Your mom.  :D Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 18:09, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Also, is this one of those friendships where I actually have to give you birthday presents, or can I just grunt amiably within a week of your b-day and be okay? Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 18:09, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
I have a few friends , a some are real. I havent asked to borrow money so I dont know if they are good friends. Invite me over for waffles and I will be your friend. Volcanoes are inconveniant. They did spread the smaller animals after the great flood. Is the volcano making Iceland bigger , or melting it smaller ? Hamster (talk) 20:06, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Ace vs. The Volcano..
Acei9 20:50, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

@SJ. Yes I'm from Liverpool but in the north-west long-haul flights are only available from Manchester which is just about in spitting distance.  Lily Inspirate me. 01:26, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Work colleague's parents are stuck in Sharm el Sheikh, but otherwise I don't know about anyone else who's stuck. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 13:22, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

The department head of linguistics at the U of Edinburgh, Geoffrey Pullum, is stuck in Boston and offering lectures in exchange for a beer and nachos. I desire more Icelandic volcanoes of this nature.--ADtalkModerator 19:36, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm currently substituing for a SFC on leave. One of the first things I thought was 'Will he be able to get back from leave?'. Now, as my own leave date comes closer, i'm wondering if I might be able to go on leave myself in mid-May. -- CodyH (talk) 08:02, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


An Irish journalist writes on HuffPo. Dawkins should be arrested for not screaming about "atheist" crimes. Wanker. Why evolution is true blog Hat tip yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 14:45, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

The HuffPo article is nothing more than the same old "Hitler was an atheist!" argument. But I did laugh at the part where the article calls biology and genetics "arcane fields." Tetronian you're clueless 14:57, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Whoa, I didn't read the second half of the article until now. What the hell do the fertility rates of atheists have to do with the Pope? Tetronian you're clueless 15:05, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
There's an even stupider guy in the comments section. I can make neither head nor tail of what he's saying. Bastard drug Hoover! 15:07, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
The basic problem is that Dawkins has failed to deal with Pol Pot. His being unconnected and physically impossible should not be a barrier. Sems a good response to a guy hilighting the demstrable fact that the Catholic Church continues to endorse the involuntary sliding of clerical cock in to the arses of boys. Yup, way to grasp the bigger picture, Rory.ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 20:23, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
If you ever want to teach people how not to write convincing arguments and teach people basic logical fallacies and their applications (argument from authority features extremely prominently), you could do much worse than start on that article. And that's a generous assessment. Scarlet A.pngnarchist 07:44, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
One thing I noticed about the article is that it hits a slippery slope in a hurry. Because Dawkins is trying to use the Augusto Pinochet maneuver on the Pope when he visits Britain, Mr. Fitzgerald sees this as Dawkins glossing over crimes done 'by' atheists. I seriously doubt that Dawkins would deny the death of millions in the Cultural Revolution or the Soviet Union during the Cold War. However, those leaders and their actions have come and gone. Cardinal Ratzinger's discrepancies and purposeful deceptions are still happening around the world, and have happened for much longer than the crimes done by the aformentioned 'atheists', even if they aren't atheist in definition [Soviet Russia was out of paranoia, the Cultural Revolution was out of fear of being left behind].
Another one that I love is the Einstein parallels he draws, even though he ignores Einstein's definition of spiritual [as Dawkins correctly states, it isn't spiritual as people know it; Spinoza's God rarely is] and uses the 'Judge of Truth and Knowledge' quote, even though Einstein meant it to be a quote to anyone who professed complete knowledge, including those religious zealots who use their belief as a cudgel against others. -- CodyH (talk) 08:44, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Did I really just see that?

While I don't like to add to the PeeZed liveblogging, please to be watching the video in this post and then telling me if that's actually real fox "news" programming or satire? I can't tell. Its hilarious, either way. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 15:12, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

I think it is, indeed, real. I found it painful and had to stop watching, though. ħumanUser talk:Human 11:03, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Power out

I just had a power outage that effed up my file system (or some such arcane[nice word] thing) I did something called "fsck"(?) 'cause that's what it told me to do & now it's all back. But now my file browser just locks up. Help? (Ubuntu) yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 15:21, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

What does the terminal do? Try using ls, and see what that reports. Bastard drug Hoover! 15:30, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Also, try running "nautilus", and check what it says. Bastard drug Hoover! 15:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
EC) I can leap around in the terminal: many files are duplicated i.e. "Ed" and "Ed~" but there doesn't seem to be any hang up. In applications (e.g. gedit) I can move around directories & stuff, it's just file browser. yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 15:41, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
The files ending in ~ are backups made by gedit. -- Nx / talk 15:43, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
What error messages does Nautilus spit out? Bastard drug Hoover! 15:44, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

(nautilus:3733): Eel-CRITICAL **: eel_preferences_get_boolean: assertion `preferences_is_initialized ()' failed

    • (nautilus:3733): WARNING **: No marshaller for signature of signal 'UploadFinished'
    • (nautilus:3733): WARNING **: No marshaller for signature of signal 'DownloadFinished'
    • (nautilus:3733): WARNING **: No marshaller for signature of signal 'ShareCreateError'

Initializing nautilus-gdu extension

Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory(nautilus:3733): Eel-CRITICAL **: eel_preferences_get_boolean: assertion `preferences_is_initialized ()' failed

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yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 15:46, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

My guess it your .gconf directory got corrupted. Happened to me once when someone shut down a computer I was connected to using remote desktop -- Nx / talk 15:49, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
What did you do? Bastard drug Hoover! 16:43, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Delete .gconf IIRC -- Nx / talk 17:20, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Think I'll wait for next Ubuntu (due this month I believe). yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 17:27, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
And wipe your homedir? -- Nx / talk 17:51, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Alternately, you can just use the command "mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf.corrupted", which will back it up. Bastard drug Hoover! 18:06, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
I hate to be a real jerk here, but Toastie darling, you've been on something like seventy machines since we met ya. Why do they all keep breaking? I understand the early days, you writing the help files on a handheld thingie while flooded out, but why don't you have a stable machine these days? Just asking, really, and curious. ħumanUser talk:Human 16:14, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Twasn't the machine: my power went down. This is the fourth (4th) machine in the last 4 years including 2 hand-held (or 'phones as some call them) yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 16:22, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Like I said, I didn't want to be the asshole here. And I remember you building the fricking help pages on RW on like a handset. But why is now your big machine dying? You are really computer savvy, far more than me. ħumanUser talk:Human 18:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Her machine isn't dying, there was a powercut which caused the filesystem (that's the arrangement of files on the physical disc, not the disc itself) to become corrupted. The computer instructed Toast to run a program to fix the filesystem, which it duly did, but some of the configuration files for the file browser were left corrupted, causing the file browser to fail. Bastard drug Hoover! 18:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
dunno where you live but consider a small UPS. they arent expensive and you only need like 5 minutes for an orderly shutdown. Hamster (talk) 20:18, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
That's why I love laptops, they have a built-in UPS (aka battery). Just ignore the recommendation to remove the battery when connected to mains power. -- (talk) 20:48, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Great advice if you only want your lithium battery to last a bout a year. The main factor in shortening Li-ion battery life is heat. All Li-ion batteries start the road to death as soon as they are made. Keeping a three-quarter charged battery in a zip-lock bag in the fridge (not freezer) will extend its life. Use a proper UPS with cheap lead-acid gel batteries rather than leaving your laptop plugged in and warm all the time.  Lily Inspirate me. 22:02, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Guess it depends on the quality of the battery and/or heat flow of the computer. My machine is now some 3 years old, uptime around 8h/day on average. So far, the battery (never removed) still has more than 75% of its original capacity. -- (talk) 23:04, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Interesting point about the heat issue. The power's gone off a couple times while using this flappie, and it's almost spooky - everything around me turns off except the glowing screen. Of course, I lose the 'net due to the modem and router going down. ħumanUser talk:Human 10:25, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
That's where a real UPS comes in handy. But don't you have a genset?  Lily Inspirate me. 10:44, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but it's not automated. ħumanUser talk:Human 11:03, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


I went into the bathroom, stubbed my (bare) toes on the bath (who put that there?) hopped around, fell over, grabbed towel rail, towel rail detached from wall bringing plaster dust onto floor, flailed about, hit head on cabinet next to wash basin, mirror broke, cabinet door came off, Contents of cabinet spread themselves around room. Think I might go to bed. yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 16:22, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

That sounds like an average afternoon for me. I ran headfirst into a wall when I was something like 9 years old and I've never been on the same level since. Now I stay out of reality, as aforementioned. SJ Debaser 17:24, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
OUCH hope you are ok. Is your girlfriend at least tending your wounds? I would fix your bathroom fixtures, but, yeah I am too far away. ħumanUser talk:Human 18:13, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Sounds funny, but also sounds painful. Yes, go to bed - you'll be safer there.--BobSpring is sprung! 18:46, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
O bet you used little screws to hold your towel rail , thats usually fine , but it doesnt make a grab bar. Grab bar and lag bolts is what you want ;) Hope you arent hurt , hopping on broken mirrors is bad luck. Hamster (talk) 20:00, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Did Ace hack Toast's account?  Lily Inspirate me. 01:32, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Was stone cold sober @ the time. Which is why the toe stub hurt so much I suppose. Am now slightly intoxicated, having drunk 5 bottles of Klassïek "Genuine Dutch Beer" and a couple of measures of Ardbeg. Drinking alone is not a good idea - I'm getting morose! yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 01:41, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


It seems that both RW and CP are undergoing lots of vandalism lately, is the culprit the same person/people? Opinions? Tweetylet's have buttsecks 19:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Both Conservapedia vandals seem to be the same person. That's pretty much all that is obvious to me so far. Rodlen (talk) 19:14, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
It's possibly connected. However, we have it under control because while we have no gun control (handing out guns left and right) CP has very strict gun laws, and only awards them to a few of the most trusted acolytes. EddyP (talk) 19:17, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Haha! That was good :P Tweetylet's have buttsecks 19:18, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Nice one. Also of note: the return of DuncanB. Rodlen (talk) 19:31, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
A user named Cheerleader has registered at CP, they seem to be the same Tweetylet's have buttsecks 20:30, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Vandals vs Parodists, round 9001. EddyP (talk) 20:31, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Fuck conservapedia. rational ghey (talk) 20:34, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Just don't let Human know that they've been breaking his Wiki. It'd make him cry. The Spikey Punk I'm punking my punk! 21:08, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Of course what they just love is to see people talking about them and speculating about them. So perhaps we should just ignore them.--BobSpring is sprung! 21:12, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Bob M is right, as usual, of course. Why should we even acknowledge these stupid idiots here? The Goonie 1 What's this button do? Uh oh.... 21:21, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Also, talking about RW getting wandalized by the same person as is wandalizing CP doesn't serve TK's purpose, so there's another reason not to talk about it. Wouldn't want to do anything to undermine his authority for stating that RW is the "vandal site" would we? Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 21:13, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Another update: So, they had another vandal, Ramsey, warned by JulieWeis to stop vandalizing. However, JulieWeis turned out to be a sock of Cheerleader. Whoa. Rodlen (talk) 21:15, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Lifehacker on getting around Internet blocks and other slow-downs...

Article P-Foster (talk) 19:32, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

First Contact?

Sorry if it's a repost--What to do if you meet E.T. P-Foster (talk) 19:32, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

How useful!--BobSpring is sprung! 21:20, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
That's awesome. I'd hate to read the faith based one, which would probably be something along the lines of "before attempting to show a basic grasp of mathematics, tell them about Jeezus" Scarlet A.pngnarchist 07:58, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes, great piece, but ow, the formatting! ħumanUser talk:Human 11:22, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
It's probably meant to be a poster rather than an easy on the eyes article, but isn't really punchy enough for one. It'd make a good one, though. Scarlet A.pngnarchist 11:26, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

That volcano again

So who is going to be buying a mask to survive?--BobSpring is sprung! 21:23, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Remember to duck and cover under a blanket or newspaper--Thanatos (talk) 00:49, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Photos of sunset 17/04/10 Not very good, but it was oranger than usual yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 02:32, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm so glad I live south of that big ol' middle line thingy. Just as Hollywood predicted - all the crap happens up north. Just waiting for the ice storms and alien landings now. (PS When aliens land here, we stick 'em in ghettoes. It's true, I saw a documentary). --PsyGremlinTala! 09:30, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
It's obvious that God did this to punish Europe for tolerating fags and fag enablers. SJ Debaser 19:41, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

someone trying to hack my rationalwiki account.....

using the "forget password" feature.......damn..i keep receiving email saying someone asked a password change for my account O_O Waronstupidity (talk) 23:17, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

That happened to another two users recently. User talk: Rodlen (talk) 23:18, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
what should i do ? Waronstupidity (talk) 23:19, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Nothing. The email comes only to you. It's just a handy way for idiots to troll registered users of a Mediawiki installation. As well as a password recovery tool - David Gerard (talk) 23:21, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
(EC!!!) You can't keep receiving it because you can only receive one per 24 hours. And don't worry, it's just an annoyance, they can't break into your account. You don't have to use the temporary password, your existing password will continue to work, and the temporary one will expire in a day. -- Nx / talk 23:19, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Maybe you forgot your password, and the you forgot that you forgot it. -- (talk) 23:20, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
This is actually the most likely explanation - David Gerard (talk) 23:21, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
well thank guy. but if you see me acting suspicious! it will be because CP hacked my account.Waronstupidity (talk) 23:24, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Based on your edit history I can only assume you account was hacked at registration . . . I kid . . . Me!Sheesh!Mine! 00:02, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
It could also be a legit, but poorly thought out hack attempt - possibly a bot. I've had it done to my Neopets account, and I wasn't even active there at the time; it could also be someone who doesn't know that "Forgot password" is usually paired to an e-mail, and someone who doesn't know that the IP address is included in said e-mail. -- (talk) 04:27, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I wouldn't accuse CP of doing it, I mean, yeah, Schlafly and TK are both total c**ts but this isn't really their thing. It could just be a bot trying it as anyone wanting to "hack" RW would go after Nx or Trent's accounts surely. Scarlet A.pngnarchist 07:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Unset your email address for a few weeks until they get bored. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 13:24, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
This also seems to be an ample time to mention I received that email at... *checks email* 11:45 last night GMT. SJ Debaser 14:03, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Mine was at 6:24 EST. And as far as "doing" anything about, once one understands the situation there's nothing at all that needs doing (I copied my "new" pword, but discovered I was logged in just fine, so didn't care). ħumanUser talk:Human 14:13, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Good youtube lovesongs?

Ok, basically I've thought of a kinda cool idea for a stunt to win me some youtube subscribers (hopefully). Basically, I make videos to "ship" youtubers (they can be creationists, anti-creationists, ect, whatever I think is funny), but I want to do them as music videos, and I don't want them getting pulled, so I want songs that are available on audioswap. Sadly, the only two love songs I know on audioswap are Every Time We Touch (which I'm a bit reluctant to use, because its SO overused), and Time After Time (which, I intend to check the version they have, and if its good will be used for my shipping video of James the Preacher and Thunderf00t). Can anyone recommend any other good audioswap love songs?--Mustex (talk) 23:43, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Scratch Time After Time, it appears they had a different song of the same name.--Mustex (talk) 23:47, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


I'm going until p foster retracts his accusation of sexual harrassment, it was a gay joke btw, and stops being a general tit and looking for any excuse to pick an argument with me. Goodbye. Tweetylet's have buttsecks 00:54, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Care factor: 0. - π 01:02, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
exactly, they don't care and that's why you should block them all with ur sysop buttons and tell them you'll be elsewhere with haste.— Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

Someone said something mean about me on the Internets, goodbye.--ADtalkModerator 02:25, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

cheezburger haz wizdom Totnesmartin (talk) 09:48, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Goodbye forever. Don't worry, we won't wait up. SJ Debaser 14:04, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
This sort of thing is why bisexuals choose not to exist - David Gerard (talk) 14:14, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Bye then.--BobSpring is sprung! 15:33, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Two tumbleweeds rolling across the screen, from left to right.

I SAID, I'M GOING!!!! (storms through door into closet) - David Gerard (talk) 08:05, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Playing with toys.

This is just me on a little rant again. I was getting my groceries in (name withheld) when something caught my eye. It was a lego, no sorry, megabloks set. What got me was the theme:Halo. It was a kid's toy fashioned after a game rated M (18+).

Now, I can see the appeal.Halo has tanks, airships and other cool stuff that would be fun to build as a child. Lego has Star Wars and stuff, but this really got me. Are they aiming this at children, ignorant of the game, or uber-geeky fans, who get every bit of merchandise they can get their hands on?

I remember when I was a kid and Walmart had problems with parents concerning the name of a toy. It was a gundam action figure called "DeathScythe from Hell" (one of the best names for a giant robot ever!). I also remember controversy surrounding a toy made in wrestler Al Snow's image. Parents complained because the it came with a head accessory that was supposed to be the manikin head Snow used as a prop.

But this Halo thing gets to me. Parent's let the ball dropped on this one, and I feel like Debbie Schussel saying this (...so very, very dirty...). They danger-proof their kids, make it so cartoons are educational or have a positive message, and yet they didn't notice this?

P.S. While debating on writing this down, I started checking out some of my old favorite cartoons on youtube. After all these years, I am still a fan of Darkwing Duck, the Tick and Sam and Max: Freelance Police--Thanatos (talk) 01:11, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

It's a tricky problem. The question that inevitably follows is "should the government do something about this?" You are certainly right about parents dropping the ball, though. Tetronian you're clueless 01:15, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
You know what I miss from my childhood? Tom and Jerry cartoons. It was clearly gratuitous violence, and the show served no other purpose other than catering to the gruesome needs of small innocent children. If we can allow our children to watch cartoons where household animals blow each other up with dynamite, then I'm sure killing aliens is good, since a kid who blows up his dog with a cherrybomb is a psycopath, but one who kills aleins is a pretty cool guy. --The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 02:07, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
There was a controversy in the UK about Playboy logos appearing on kid's pencil cases and stuff.  Lily Inspirate me. 02:23, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I must say I am always bemused by the number of young women that have Playboy logo's on their stuff, seat covers in their cars seems the most common. - π 02:38, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I know it's only a matter of time before I see some kid with Razzle or Fat and Fifty written on the arse of her tracksuit. ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 03:19, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I think a Lego Halo video game was an April Fool last year. Scarlet A.pngnarchist 07:32, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Tom & Jerry from my childhood was the kinder, more peaceful cartoon, they just played harmless pranks and sometimes teamed up against others & we had Tom n' Jerry kids too, no violence at all, they all got along for the most part. Roadrunner & WilEy Coyote had the whole "blow him up, drop an anvil on his head, push him off a high cliff" type of violence going on. Refugeetalk page 09:58, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
It's not exactly a new thing, as there were toys fashioned after Alien and Rambo in the old days. On the subject of old cartoons though, everybody knows that the best ones were mae in the 90s by Warner. I will fight about this if I have to. Vulpius (talk) 10:03, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
"The old days"? I'll see your Rambo and raise you a Dalek, stock phrase "Exterminate! Exterminate" in a harsh metallic voice. ħumanUser talk:Human 11:49, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Hai Guys?

What if, instead of a Zombie Apocalypse, they rise up, infect a majority of the population, and elect a zombie as president or prime minister or whatever? ĵ₳¥ášÇ♠ʘ is writing a comment 01:56, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Interesting question. There are more dead people than alive ones, so theoretically they would form the largest voting block if they could vote. - π
I thought there were as many people alive as have died (roughly) yummy Toast&  honey(or marmalade) 02:01, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I actually think the total human population, including the dead, was about 80 billion. Dunno where I got that from, and take it with a grain of salt because it could be wrong. ĵ₳¥ášÇ♠ʘ <insert witty comment here> 02:14, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
106,000,000,000 is the only number I can find. The US census bureau has estimates. - π 02:20, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Some say this happened in 2000. Boom-tish! - David Gerard (talk) 02:12, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Aside: Dead people voting is a classic ballot box stuffing technique. - π 02:16, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps this will be ACORN's next strategy? Tetronian you're clueless 14:14, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

just wondering...

When does an account have "autoconfirmed" status on RW? ex- Wikipedia is 10 edits + 4 days. rational ghey (talk) 06:05, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm thinking about two days. TKEtoolshedFrag Out! 07:15, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

How to look like a funky monk

Can't afford a table? Smurf out!
"Perfect For Night Time Pub Crawls" - Can we expect these wearable sleeved blankets to be snapped up by RationalWikians?  Lily Inspirate me. 14:41, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, if you want to get harassed and humiliated the moment you walk into a public place. Tetronian you're clueless 15:26, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Good garb for rationalwiccans?--BobSpring is sprung! 15:32, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
On the other hand, it might be fun to walk around all day in one of these and pretend nothing unusual is going on. Tetronian you're clueless 17:32, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
It's a cult. Damn good one as well. Anyone making fun of you can be arrested and dealt with rather harshly, at least in Ireland.--ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 18:15, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I can't say anything. I've got the full Sith robe…--Stunteddwarf Spirit of the Cherry Blossom 21:44, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

King James Only Missionaries?

Hey, I know that when Muslims try to convert people they teach Arabic so people can read the Qur'an, but I was wondering: do King James Only people teach English? Or, do they even have missionaries?--Mustex (talk) 16:27, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Mmmm. I spent a few minutes trying to find something on this without getting any clear result. I did however come to this page which may have something on it. Unfortunately, the page really should get some kind of award for bad design and all the blinking words gave me a headache.--BobSpring is sprung! 17:56, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


I'm 9 minutes into it and already kind of headdesking. I'm not sure if it was some "creative" editing in the cutting room, but Maher asks a question that pretty much every atheist/freethinker/deist/rationalist always wants answered; "why is faith, that is a belief in something without evidence, a good thing?" and this guy responds saying "now I don't like where this documentary is going..." then tells Maher he's going to have a problem and storms out. LIKE THAT'S AN ANSWER?!?! That guy may have just as well sat there and chanted "DO NOT QUESTION. DO NOT QUESTION." over and over again... and then it only gets more retarded from there. Scarlet A.pngnarchist 17:57, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I suppose the only reasonable answer is 'comfort', which isn't a good reason at all Sleuth (talk) 18:12, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Dude keep watching it! Amazing movie rational ghey (talk) 18:50, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
It was an entertaining movie, but it has little intellectual value. It's just a two-hour religion-bashing fest with no intelligent conclusion beyond "religions kill people." It's just another bullet in the increasingly petty information war between religion and the "New Atheism." Tetronian you're clueless 21:32, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
That's debatable. Yes, there was extensive editing from the interviews, but I think it still expels their logic. rational ghey (talk) 21:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Also, [2]. Mei (talk) 21:36, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
(EC) I suppose it provided some insight into the minds of religious leaders (albeit heavily edited insight), but for the most part the film just preached to the converted (to atheists, that is). It was apparent from minute one that religious beliefs have no evidence to support them, making Maher's incessant mocking superfluous. What's more, he focused on making the interviewees look silly rather than having concrete intellectual debates. Tetronian you're clueless 21:39, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but is it funny? ħumanUser talk:Human 05:49, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Typical self righteous atheist drivel, a friend imposed this shit on me the other week, serious borefest by a comedian well past his best. — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

The movie is worth seeing, if only for the guy from the Vatican he interviews, and the Sabbath-cheating machines. DickTurpis (talk) 22:27, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like fun at least. (And if our theist BON above is so against it it must have something going for it.)--BobSpring is sprung! 06:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

So I have this friend...

...who likes to leave his lights on all day just to help global warming, which is strongly believes is a hoax. I don't think I wanna be friends with him. Thoughts? rational ghey (talk) 18:51, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

if he thinks "global warming" is a haox, how can he "help" something that doesn't exist for him? But really, the amount of electricity consumed by household lighting is pretty small compated to what we use runninbg street lights or traffic light for long stretches, or airconditioning/heating/lighting the average factory or shopping mall. P-Foster (talk) 18:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I would suggest that he leaves his tumble-drier on 24/7 as that would make a lot more difference.--BobSpring is sprung! 19:03, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Excellent point P Foster. I think he does just to waste electricity and piss anyone slightly more liberal than rush limpballs off. I think. Idk he's an idiot. rational ghey (talk) 19:19, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Does this friend pay his own electric bill?Me!Sheesh!Mine! 19:27, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
He could up the stakes a bit by burning car tyres in his garden. He'd also irritate the the big government crowd by exercising his right as an individual to throw himself off of a bridge, and ultimately that's one of those rare win-win situations. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 19:32, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
What an absolute cock. What I would agree with Bob's suggestion that he really make his point by leaving all his high-consumption appliances on all the time, that'd stick it to those environmentalist loonies! DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 19:37, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

No he gets his electric bill paid by the university housing. Nice Delta star. haha.. rational ghey (talk) 19:38, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

So he's a double dick. ħumanUser talk:Human 19:45, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Well he's never gotten laid and he's from a small town in northern NJ (ha, where the assfly lives, how ironic?). He permanently has a limp on one leg, forgot why. I used to feel bad. rational ghey (talk) 19:52, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
None of that stuff is relevant to the issue at hand. SJ Debaser 19:53, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh calm down. Just sayin. He texted me when earth day was... so he could burn a forest. rational ghey (talk) 19:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Obviously I lied. Sigh. rational ghey (talk) 20:01, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I AM CALM!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!1!!!ONE!!! SJ Debaser 20:09, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
No you're not!!!one!!!eleven!!!!one-hundred-and-one!!!! rational ghey (talk) 20:13, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

It sounds like he is simply a contrarian empowered by the fact that his actions don't have any direct or meaningful consequence on him. Me!Sheesh!Mine! 21:28, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

while we cannot prove the existence of god.

we cannot prove that there nothing after death, it bother me when i see people saying that there nothing after death like they *saw* it. wake up call, we cannot know what after death as long as we are alive, that the rational way to do it because if we blatantly claim that there is nothing after death without proof (no scientist can die and come back to life to tell us how it is)we are acting like the creationist who claim god existence without proof.I'm probably gonna be insulted but you guy need to understand to have no double standard, you disrespect religion because of lack of proof(of that i can agree) but you cannot know what after death as long as you're still breathing. Waron out. Waronstupidity (talk) 21:09, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

True, no-one can say that there are no gods and that there's not a life beyond death. It is however reasonable to believe that gods and magical bye bye land are fictional until proven otherwise. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 21:11, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
fair enough :-),I'm agnostic and i want proof too but i really hope we can prove there something after death and if there nothing then so be it....Waronstupidity (talk) 21:13, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
(EC*2) Waron, you have a point, but there's more to it than that. While we can't know what is after death with absolute certainty, we can use logical reasoning (Bayesian and otherwise) to figure out what is probably going to happen. For example, the existence of a "soul" or some other non-physical entity is highly unlikely, which reduces the probability of a life-after-death. Tetronian you're clueless 21:14, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
True, but we do not know everything about our universe, meaning there plenty of thing to discovery and many Theory to be proven or disproven.
Humanity need to keep its imagination because sometime imagination become a reality, for example people said we were never gonna be able to go to the moon but we did. There still PLENTY of thing to discover and that what current day "rational" people don't understand, they beleive that what exist today is the only thing that gonna exist tomorrow.Waronstupidity (talk) 21:18, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
What is it with people acting as if the sciences are for human computers with no imagination? It takes a huge amount of imagination and insight to work out how the world works, and to apply that knowledge to our gain. Imagination is not the same as believing whatever crap you want to. Bastard drug Hoover! 21:29, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I disagree: many rational people are focusing their attention on what will happen tomorrow. Like this guy, for example. The point is: there is a difference between saying "I don't know" and throwing up your hands helplessly as opposed to saying "I don't know" and then going on to examine the evidence you've got and making predictions. I admit, I will never know anything with absolute certainty, but I can use rationalism make predictions and adjust my beliefs as I acquire more evidence. At the moment, I think that I can assign a pretty low probability to an afterlife based on the absurdity of dualism. If I see something that suggests otherwise, I'll change my mind. Tetronian you're clueless 21:25, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
good point, but i just hate when people completly destroy imagination saying its childish (example: many EXTREME atheist/rational i met).Waronstupidity (talk) 21:38, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
It's like Phantom Hoover says: there is a difference between imagination and faith. I can imagine whatever I want, but that doesn't mean I believe in it. And, as he points out, science takes imagination, too. Where would we be if scientists had never thought outside of the box? Tetronian you're clueless 21:41, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
This argument has been addressed ad nauseam on this site. No sensible rational atheist denies the existence of a god/gods or an afterlife with 100% certainty as these things are ultimately unknowable. The tenuous "evidence" for most religious belief is based largely on hearsay and ignorance of nature, or is the product of self-delusion, so the probability of their existence is inordinately low. However, it is not rational to live your life on the basis of such low probabilities. It's like locking yourself in a concrete bunker just in case you get struck by a meteorite. Concepts like Pascal's wager are really a priori arguments because they assume the existence of a Christian god in the first place. To be fair you should apply the same logic to every religion or belief system. If there was really evidence for a god then surely it would be universal but there have been multitudes or different religions throughout history and across the globe. Of course, religionists always like to claim that theirs is the one true religion but as Steven Roberts said "When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you willunderstand why I dismiss yours". (See Commonsense Atheism for more discussion on this). The problems with religion arise from one set of random beliefs being imposed on everyone. Imagination is a creative process and one that has driven human progress and exploration for millennia, but it doesn't mean that we should take notice of every little kid's imaginary friend.  Lily Inspirate me. 01:39, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Well said Lily. Getting back to life after death, there is as much evidence for it as there is for the Flying spaghetti Monster. Nobody can say with 100% certainly that the Monster does not exist, and nobody can demonstrate with 100% certainty that there is no life after death. But given that there is no evidence in favour of either the Monster or life after death we are justified in dismissing both ideas.--BobSpring is sprung! 06:25, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Tip of the day

If you are going to buy PopCorn, try not to swap the letters.-- (talk) 22:50, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

As in Spoonerese? ħumanUser talk:Human 23:36, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
You tried to buy a Porn Cop, and now are facing attempted bribery charges? --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 08:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I didn't say it. You did. Please keep an eye out for the Corn Pops at your door. ħumanUser talk:Human 08:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

hey hey hey hey hey

Why is nothing happening happening happening happening?

I dont know know know know rational ghey (talk) 23:32, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
We should do something do something do something do something Mei (talk) 23:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Like this this this this? ħumanUser talk:Human 23:37, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
No something better. Better better better. Mei (talk) 23:39, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
facebook <3 rational ghey (talk) 23:40, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Ah, sorry, I farted.
This page has been
gas attacked by SuperJosh.
Ah, sorry, I farted. SJ Debaser 23:41, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Mock mock mock mock Conservapedia articles? Rodlen (talk) 23:42, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
ಠ_______ಠ We do that anyway. Mei (talk) 23:43, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
We should talk about something we do not talk about previously. Mei (talk) 23:48, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Come on come on comeon.
The daffodils are very nice this year year year year. ħumanUser talk:Human 23:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Upload picture
It's dark dark dark dark out. Settle for this [3]. ħumanUser talk:Human 00:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I like the dark. I was just thinking about dark. Garden is nice nice nice. Would prefer darker darker darker. Mei (talk) 00:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
NEW IMPORTANT ISSUE - how fast does time move?
One second per second. Unless you're bored. Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. ħumanUser talk:Human 00:21, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
What units does that have? Fruit flies probably prefer fruit with thin skins. What is your opinion on Kanye West?
I'm more of an East Koast person. The units are seconds. The units of an arrow are fleches and the minor units are pointzes. ħumanUser talk:Human 00:28, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
If it's seconds per second the seconds should cancel out. No units. Like that other thing in physics. Also, time does not seem to move at that speed. Time moves far too fast. Mei (talk) 00:32, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh yes, sometimes it goes at 3,600 seconds per hour. Much faster. ħumanUser talk:Human 00:33, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Too fast. We should slow it down. Mei (talk) 00:46, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
How does 60 seconds/minute strike you? How about eight days a week? ħumanUser talk:Human 00:49, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
That is far too fast. Mei (talk) 00:56, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
How about one day per day? Seems sluggish enough to me to be positively molluscean. ħumanUser talk:Human 01:41, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
If you want it to go slower, you need to start moving faster relative to everyone else. - π 01:49, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
With regards to both your comments, MEI HAS WON THE THREAD Mei (talk) 01:58, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I move at one hour per hour, on the hour. To everything it's season, turn, turn, turn. ħumanUser talk:Human 05:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Related question: for how long does a metre of time last? Bastard drug Hoover! 07:11, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
~3.3×10-10 seconds. HTH - David Gerard (talk) 08:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
First, you fuckers broke the wall of time. Second, oh piss, I forgot after all this shit I had to fix! ħumanUser talk:Human 08:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I remember. 4/4. So, one. ħumanUser talk:Human 08:50, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I like John Hughes

Try to refute that, so called "rational" wiki. Mei (talk) 01:22, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

You know who else liked John Hughes? HITLER!@!@!11!!1!212!!! --The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 02:13, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
AND STALIN! AND DARWIN IS CONNECTED TO BOTH! Rodlen (talk) 02:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
It is on now, "Theemperor". Mei (talk) 02:17, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
"mei" (recreate your account with your real first name and last initial), lack of Bible reading is so prevalent among evolutionists that that the insight is clearly self-evident. I reread the beginning of your rant at the top of this section and see you're suffering from evolution syndrome, so let me guess: you're lacking a largely defensive weapon of gun. Denying this calls into question all of your credibility on the fact that winning in Iraq prevents crime. Contrary to what many of you obese atheists like to claim, Reagan never pretended to be smarter than he was, and Reagan often spoke without teleprompters. Study the Bible and follow its commandments.--Andy Schlafly 10:24, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
"Everyone but Rodlen" (obviously your parents were atheists to give you such a pagan name so you're probably obese), your "word-to-substance ratio" is very high; you are likely a liberal. I skimmed through your recent edits and you say in several places "data not shown", so admit it, you're an agent provocateur. Denying this calls into question all of your credibility on the fact that the Bush doctrine prevents research into gravitons. In sum, more students always means more competition, which is good. If you can't explain in your own words why you think that school was founded by atheists and is so prominent today, then give up and try debating a topic you can put in your own words. Try to open your mind in the future.--aschlafly 10:24, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
I do not like Star Wars. Mei (talk) 02:26, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
When will breakfast be served? ħumanUser talk:Human 05:44, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Victoria Jackson

So is Victoria Jackson some kind of parodist, or is she really just that freakin' dumb? [4] [5] PACODOGwoof, bitches 05:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Incredibly obvious parody. ħumanUser talk:Human 08:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
According to her [[wp:Victoria Jackson|Wikipedia entry] she's a genuine. Whether she's that dumb or simply using it as a comic political ploy, I don't know but she probably believes what she's saying.  Lily Inspirate me. 09:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


i want to see that place BURN! along with ED. People who make fun of rape victim and cripple doesn't deserve to live. How can they find laughing at rape victim "funny" ? these people along with their ringleader "moot" deserve to be beaten to death.Waronstupidity (talk) 09:29, 19 April 2010 (UTC)