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Wikicommons images problem[edit]

I tried to insert an Wikicommons image into the Donald Trump article (an image with the best filename eva), but all I see, is a red link. What should I do?--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 19:15, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

P.S.: All the Wikicommons images did stop being integrated into RW articles. Redlinks everywhere!--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 19:17, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Getting the same issue here. This seems to happen from time to time. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 22:14, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Aw, crap. Someone changed the API and didn't tell us.--Cosmikdebris (talk) 02:23, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
>_< I'll have a look in a spare moment (something I've been short on) - David Gerard (talk) 13:00, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Looks like a bug on their end, actually. Not sure they changed the API. Hipocrite (talk) 15:26, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Got any details? - David Gerard (talk) 15:31, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Fixed [1]. BTW, Commons images now come in by HTTPS only, not HTTP. (yeah yeah on that case too) - David Gerard (talk) 16:33, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Seems to be broken once more, and recent uploads have disappeared as well. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 05:16, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Seems to be fine? — Carpetsmoker (talk) 06:42, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
No, it isn't I tried emptying my browser cache, tried using another browser, tried even Tor Browser, but to no avail!--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 14:34, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
LocalSettings.php was wrong on the second server. (It appears most of the stuff on apache1 syncs to apache2, but not that. No, we don't use NFS like any sensible MediaWiki farm because it didn't work properly so Trent kludged something.) Now working for me - David Gerard (talk) 17:10, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Thx, now it works again!--17:21, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Deletion reason[edit]

We could do with having "failed AfD" as a preset deletion reason. See MediaWiki talk:Deletereason-dropdown#New one needed. BicyclewheelModerator 19:52, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

"AFD vote" is now in - David Gerard (talk) 13:00, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Minor nitpick, but perhaps this list be put in alphabetical order? :-) It looks like it started out alphabetically, but other reasons were later added at the end... Carpetsmoker (talk) 02:45, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
if nobody else does it I'll do it when I get home--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 02:59, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Eligible users list of members[edit]

My apologies if this is the wrong place to put this but the "To do list" seems to be for new articles only. Could one of the techs (or someone else who is able to) make a Special:ListUsers page like [this one] for Eligible users to go on the User group rights special page? Thank you. SolPyre (talk) 19:14, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Image doesn't load?[edit]

The very first image, a troll insulting Feminist Frequency (this image), in the article for Gamergate isn't showing up. Is there a reason or is it just a bug? Dandtiks69♪♫ (talk) 04:33, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Seems to work fine for me? Carpetsmoker (talk) 05:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
It's just a bit of lag on one of the servers. Give it a few minutes and it'll be there. Gooniepunk (talk) 05:40, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Screenshot (6) - Copy.png
It never does. It's been like that for months now. How can lag take that long for a file so small? Dandtiks69♪♫ (talk) 05:47, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Strange ... File:Gamergate_twitter.jpg does show, right? You can try clearing the cache and see of that helps? Carpetsmoker (talk) 06:23, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Nope, still doesn't work. Is it probably just a browser-specific bug? Dandtiks69♪♫ (talk) 06:42, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
That would be unlikely. I see you're running some AdBlock extension? Maybe try disabling that (& maybe all other extensions as well) and see if that fixes it? Carpetsmoker (talk) 07:09, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Works for me. It's literally just Squid proxying for Apache serving a static image, there's very little here to go wrong - David Gerard (talk) 11:23, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Moderator elections[edit]

I was trying to vote in the election booth. However, it keeps saying that elections are closed. Can we get this opened up, and give an extension of the voting deadline by a few days as a result of this error. Thanks in advance. Gooniepunk aka Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 04:19, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Whoever also knows how to should most definitely share this information with some of us as well, and whatever other technical secrets are laying around since the loss of our old coders.--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 05:14, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
If I read rightly, it requires dicking around in LocalSetting.php with a stick and a grimorie. WalkerWalkerWalker 05:42, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Pretty much. I've got it to the stage where it gives me a "vote" button with no actual options to vote for ... Also, who's counting the votes? Surely not me, given I'm a candidate ... - David Gerard (talk) 20:26, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Did you set $wgElectionCandidates yet? And shit, good question... WalkerWalkerWalker 20:28, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Apparently I'm supposed to sacrifice the goat with black candles, so I'll need to nick down the Tesco shortly and hope they're in stock - David Gerard (talk) 20:33, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
AgingHippie has stepped up to be returning officer. I could send him faked data, but I promise I won't ... how's that for paper walls.
OK, I need $wgElectionName (which is a string), $wgElectionCandidates (which is an array of strings?) and I'm trying to work out where the hell it writes the votes. Apparently to a particular database table. I'd hope for a suitable way to extract this that wasn't by hand. Also, there's election.php and a separate extension Election ... - David Gerard (talk) 21:36, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Is it by chance https://rationalwiki.org/w/foobar.blt where foobar is $wgElectionName or did I misread/just plain wrong? WalkerWalkerWalker 21:40, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
(like what's at https://rationalwiki.org/w/2011board.blt for you? For me it's a 403) WalkerWalkerWalker 21:44, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Yep, it's created the file and there's what looks like a vote in it. Your private vote is safe from me cos I can't make head nor tail of what the numbers in it mean - David Gerard (talk) 22:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
I wouldn't care if you could, so hey, we're all good here til time to sort the results out? WalkerWalkerWalker 22:11, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Actually, what the first number, if I may ask? WalkerWalkerWalker 22:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
There are four lines now: starting with numbers, three of which correspond to user IDs (so I don't want to post them) and one is 48085 which isn't a user_id - David Gerard (talk) 22:34, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Well then that answers the question just as well. SockTheory 22:36, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

OK, I think I have a handle on this. Could someone please vote and note that you have voted ... it's 1000000000 candidates and takes ages to fill in but hey - David Gerard (talk) 22:00, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Have voted. Was politely told thank you by machine. WalkerWalkerWalker 22:05, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
And, I also just cast the most momentous votes of my life.---Mona- (talk) 22:44, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Yep, what they said. Voted and was thanked.--TheroadtoWiganPier (talk) 08:05, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

wtf is up with image uploads[edit]

File:Einstein_tongue.png should look like this, and it did work for a day orso, but now it's back at the old version somehow (actually a mixture of both, since the dimensions seem to be the new one). I've noticed more strange quirks when uploading new versions of existing images, for example I uploaded a new version of File:Chemtrails.jpg and it worked fine, but a day orso later it was back at the old version with nothing in the history (?) The second time it did stick, though... I had the same problem with File:Screenshot_(6)_-_Copy.png, which I reduced to only the relevant section, but a day later it was back to the humongous version.

The history and stuff looks fine, it's almost like the files on the filesystem are somehow wrong? Carpetsmoker (talk) 12:33, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

I went to it with "?action=purge" on the end and it came good. Basically the aspect ratio of the image had changed, and MediaWiki was still trying to display it with the old one. Purging meant it checked the file again - David Gerard (talk) 15:41, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Hm, for File:Screenshot (6) - Copy.png is fixed now, but for File:Einstein_tongue.png it's the correct aspect ratio, but still the old image Carpetsmoker (talk) 12:41, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Did you try the "?action=purge" thing? Works for me. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/File:Einstein_tongue.png?action=purge ŴêâŝêîôîďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 13:35, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I did that (and again just now). Are you sure you're seeing the *new* image? It's the same image, but with better lighting (this is what it should be). Carpetsmoker (talk) 13:38, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
No, I don't see that. The file history shows the same 330 × 330 image three times but with the middle one squashed to 230 × 286. I suggest starting over & uploading to a new filename. ЩєазєюіδWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 21:05, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
A lot of stuff links to this image.. Don't want to break that. And it should "just work" :-/ I'll try again later when I got some time... Carpetsmoker (talk) 21:14, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Most of that stuff is user pages transcluding a userbox template, which can be updated all in one go. Besides which, why not just replace it on whatever pages you think are important & just leave the rest as-is? ωεαşεζøίɗWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 23:19, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Encountered again with File:Bitcoin price chart.png. I uploaded a new version, and this was fine for 3 days; I just moved it, and now both versions are the old version. Adding action=purge doesn't help. Carpetsmoker (talk) 13:05, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

An important page of RationalWiki's history is broken[edit]

Every time I try to visit User:Human/Hot l Baltimore, it gives me a server error. This is not just from my PC computer, but from my android phone as well. Every time I try to do anything that would allow me to see the page, I get the following error:

Server error
Hide details
The website encountered an error while retrieving http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&action=submit. It may be down for maintenance or configured incorrectly.
Reload this webpage
Press the reload button to resubmit the data needed to load the page.

I tried to delete and restore the page to fix it, but that did nothing other than leave the page deleted. When I attempt to resurrect the page, the error returns. Gooniepunk (talk) 06:08, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, now when I try to use "resurrect," the error I receive is "Error 500 occurred while restoring the page." Gooniepunk (talk) 06:18, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
I have the same problem (quite aside from the problem of wanting to read that crap!) Anyway, if I recall rightly the page was moved, deleted and re-moved so often that clearly something broke somewhere. BicyclewheelModerator 09:07, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Solved! I've pasted most of the content into a new funspace page. I removed a couple of things. So it was either one of the two top templates or a gallery with image: instead of file: for the pictures. BicyclewheelModerator 09:16, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
It wasn't the gallery so that's back in now. BicyclewheelModerator 09:29, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Fun:The Weeping Lion had the same problem (a faulty template) and now it's back up. BicyclewheelModerator 19:51, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

RationalWiki:Drink_counter/Archive2 is suffering from the same glitch. WëäŝëïöïďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 19:57, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Will fix right after this fried egg butty. BicyclewheelModerator 20:32, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Fixed. Eggs are obviously good for me this week. BicyclewheelModerator 20:45, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

A quick how-to in case this happens elsewhere[edit]

  1. Go to a random page. Click Delete, then copy the deletion page URL. Do not delete this random page.
  2. Copy the delete URL into google and replace the random page's title with that of the problem page. (don't for get the underscore between words)
  3. Delete the problem page.
  4. Restore the page, but only up to the part where the edit window is full. DO NOT SAVE.
  5. Copy everything except any suspect templates (usually rare ones you don't recognise from OK pages).
  6. Paste into a new page, eg a sandbox userpage. Save.
  7. Move back to the original (or other appropriate place). Do not restore former pages as they'll still have the bad template and will probably bork when someone looks at old diffs.
  8. Wipe the goat down afterwards. Preferably with a jerboa.

BicyclewheelToxic mowse.gif 20:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Did you identify what the suspect template(s) was? It would be better to fix or delete that rather than deal with each pages that transcludes it separately. ωεαşεζøίɗWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 20:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
It's called drinktop. BicyclewheelToxic mowse.gif 21:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, it turned out to be template:Jukebox (an old mp3 widget) which was included within template:drinktop. I've removed it so the rest of the drinktop template will work now. WěǎšěǐǒǐďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 19:14, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Update EmbedVideo extension?[edit]

[2] has a XSS security problem in versions before 2.2.5 (March 2015). Another, more selfish, reason to upgrade this plugin is that embeding videos at a specific time doesn't seem to work (eg {{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNxo9NPEUyI|||||start=920}}), probably because this isn't implemented in the version we use (the generated HTML is weird). Could this plugin be updated? Thanks! Carpetsmoker (talk) 09:17, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

You asking for updates? On a wiki running on more than 3 years old Mediawiki software, whose LONG TERM SUPPORT expired in May '15?????--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 17:44, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
If you have nothing constructive to add, then don't add anything at all. Carpetsmoker (talk) 19:20, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Is it constructive to ask David Gerard to finally update the Mediawiki software?--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 19:29, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
@Carpet Good catch, buddy. We certainly need to atleast see if we can't adress this. There's literal security risks for the users and our visitors if we don't atleast try to keep step with updating the software; never mind that the site will be amazingly easy to bring down even by a script kiddie if we let security lapse too far. This isn't a veiled threat; I just work in corporate IT security. And we do get a lot of hate mail from Hitler! So, just saying. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 23:04, 6 December 2015 (UTC)


This is strange and I'm not sure what is happening, it started a day or two ago. Just now I brought up Recent Changes to see what is going on and then I clicked on the page name to go see what's up. This time it was the 'Articles for deletion/Joy of Satan (español)'. According to the change log, David Gerard and Carpetsmoker had made Goat comments 10+ minutes prior, yet when the page loaded there was nothing in Goat. It did the same thing yesterday when I tried to read a Talk page conversation; loaded up and there was no sign of the discussion. Reloading the page caused the comments to appear in both incidents. I'm not clicking Diff or anything like that, just the page name from the Recent Changes list, which never did this before.

Anyone else having this happen? Lightning Dust (talk) 16:21, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

This has been a known issue for many moons. For me, refreshing the page has become a reflex. SmartFeller (talk) 17:04, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Ah, glad it wasn't just me, thanks. :) Will have to try to remember to hit F5 to make sure I'm seeing the latest versions. Lightning Dust (talk) 15:05, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Trying to find "lonely pages"[edit]

One of the few actually useful things I do here is every couple of month, hitting the "lonely pages" button on the RC page and getting some links in to articles that are otherwise unlinked-to, 'cuz wikis need that sort of thing. Here's the problem -- pages that are on the TODO list/new articles list will not show up on the lonely pages list, but that is, at least in a few cases I just looked at, the only page that links to them, meaning there is no meaningful link to at least a few pages on the wiki. Is there any way to have the lonely pages list spit up whatever pages that have, say less than 3 links to them, to find pages that are floating around in semi-obscurity? Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 18:37, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

I have User:Carpetsmoker/Orphans to (ab)use this feature so that fork pages don't show up in the list... I've been intending to write a bot to find "pages that aren't linked to very often" at some point, by the way. Which is AFAIK the only viable short-term solution (another solution would be using an extension on the site, which would be easier and faster, but as things are rather quiet on the sysadmin front, I'm not sure if that's going to happen anytime soon). Carpetsmoker (talk) 22:41, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
It would certainly help me if we got this feature on the road; my last pass at nav templating all the pseudohistory articles was by me manually going through the category, so I'm sure I missed articles that didn't have properly set categories. An important issue raised by you guys, anyways. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 22:43, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't ever notice the replies to this. Thanks, CS, what you gave there is at leasdt a start. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 08:01, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Searching doesn't work[edit]

For example this gives 0 results, but I would expect it to include pages such as Neti pot, Yoga, etc. I haven't been able to come up with any search term that actually gives results other than exact matches. Carpetsmoker (talk) 16:41, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Lucene had fallen over. Up now - David Gerard (talk) 17:48, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

MediaWiki update[edit]

When? I guess it won't be during the holidays, but...--ZooGuard (talk) 17:18, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

The holidays is about the most likely time ... I need to get a test instance up (so all the Nx-written extensions we rely on don't break) and blah and blah - David Gerard (talk) 17:48, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Didn't you say, that you have some kinda beta version of RW running?--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 18:56, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
We're a privileged few with access to NWOwiki, yes. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 19:20, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
I have said this before, and I'll repeat it here: I don't mind doing some work on this. Something like testing (and if needed, fixing) various extensions with new versions sounds like exactly the sort of thing I (or indeed many people) could do without any access to servers and such. Carpetsmoker (talk) 19:31, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
*Lifts foaming ale in your honor* Reverend Black Percy (talk) 19:34, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
*Whilst naked in the street* Reverend Black Percy (talk) 19:35, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
I second that.--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 19:48, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
How's your PHP and MediaWiki fu? - David Gerard (talk) 22:58, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
I did PHP for a living a few years ago. I never did anything technical with MediaWiki, but I can probably figure most of it out... Carpetsmoker (talk) 10:40, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Speaking of MediaWiki upgrades, I do have a question[edit]

Will that also update the AbuseFilter software? I would like to know, because the current version of the AbuseFilter is superior to our installed version, insofar as language options that prevent some of the false positives we seem to run into. Originally, when I saw some of the new variables, I had hoped that I missed the part of the programming manual where they had been, and tried to implement them, only to have those variables come up as invalid expressions. Bottom line: If we can upgrade the AbuseFilter extension, that would be great. Gooniepunk (talk) 07:26, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Cite template[edit]

Does anyone know why the {{cite web}} template produces its link twice? The code

{{cite web|last1=Lisle|first1=Jason P.|authorlink1=Jason Lisle|editor1-last=Snelling|editor1-first=Andrew A.|editor1-link=Andrew Snelling|title=Does Distant Starlight Prove The Universe Is Old?|url=https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/starlight/does-distant-starlight-prove-the-universe-is-old/|website=Answers in Genesis|publisher=Answers in Genesis|accessdate=28 November 2015}}

should generate the title of the article as a link (which it does) but for some reason also places the link in the reference once again:

Lisle, Jason P.. "Does Distant Starlight Prove The Universe Is Old?". In Snelling, Andrew A.. Answers in Genesis. Retrieved 28 November 2015. 

I've tested this on WP too, but the template works fine there.

Anyone here who has a solution? My references look kinda ugly now. JorisEnter (talk) 10:59, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

No idea. It was cargoculted from an old version of the Wikipedia one years ago - David Gerard (talk) 16:17, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Hmm, that's a bit of a problem. Cargo cults rarely get updated. Perhaps it's time to change that? JorisEnter (talk) 16:23, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
The Wikipedia version was replaced by a Lua version in 2013. I assume that is fully backwards-compatible, but not something we can use here at the moment as RW doesn't have Lua support. You could maybe try putting the last wiki-code version from 2012 in User:JorisEnter/cite web, which you can call with {{User:JorisEnter/cite web}} ... I would be careful editing this template though, as changes might break other usages...
My advice: Who cares about this template? Just write:
[https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/starlight/does-distant-starlight-prove-the-universe-is-old/ Does Distant Starlight Prove The Universe Is Old?] by Jason P. Lisle.
Does all the extra info really add something? IMHO it doesn't... Carpetsmoker (talk) 16:36, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
For now I'll just link them directly, I suppose. JorisEnter (talk) 16:54, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
I've tried it. It actually works - but still displays the link, sadly.JorisEnter (talk) 18:51, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Layout weirdness at Mohenjo-daro[edit]

I think Template:Ufology is inhibiting images from appearing beside it, so the picture of mud walls overlaps the text in ways most fugly, at wider window widths in a relatively recent issue of Firefox. If I put that image (still as a thumbnail on the left) at the top of the page, it does slightly less fugly things to the TOC. Slurm und Drang (talk) 22:49, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Looks fine to me (Firefox 43). Can you maybe make a screenshot of your problem? Carpetsmoker (talk) 23:12, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


I did some experimenting on a test wiki I set up, and DynamicPageList3 doesn't have the ref-eating problem. It advertises itself as "fully backwards compatible with previous versions"; I copied some pages and templates, and everything seems to work as a charm. Carpetsmoker (talk) 21:21, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

*cough* David pls *cough* FᴜᴢᴢʏCᴀᴛPᴏᴛᴀᴛᴏ, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 22:33, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Reference tooltips[edit]

Could we add this to the Gadgets? Wikipedia has had it enabled by default for ages and it's really useful.

You can just "export" this from Wikipedia and import the XML with Special:import and add the line to MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition.

I think any mod (or tech?) can do this. Carpetsmoker (talk) 04:54, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

If you don't have the tech flag you probably should. I think there was a procedure for assigning it, but I forget - David Gerard (talk) 08:45, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Actually I can't find the discussion, so I've just added you to tech. Don't set the wiki on fire okay. (Pretty much anything anyone does in MediaWiki is reversible anyway.) - David Gerard (talk) 08:51, 7 January 2016 (UTC)


I've just tweaked the sidebar, moving newpages and removing the all-logs link. If anyone actually used the latter and wants it back, let me know and I'll put it back - David Gerard (talk) 08:51, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

I use it sometimes, but not very often; I don't mind it removed. As a general note, I never understood why "New pages" is under "Community", and not "Navigation". Carpetsmoker (talk) 08:57, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, I noticed that and went "whuh?" You may now have the power to edit that (I forget which power it takes to edit the interface). Remember that MediaWiki has multiple layers of caching (to compensate for its massively lardy backside) and stuff may or may not show up promptly. (This is actually a saying at work: "There's always another cache in the way") - David Gerard (talk) 09:03, 7 January 2016 (UTC)


Does RationalWiki:To do list suppress its edit tab? FU22YC47P07470 (talk/stalk) 22:04, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

When I go to this page and press the shortcut to edit it (ALT-SHIFT-E), edit page appears, so I'd hazard a guess, that it's some kinda tinkering with the CSS of the page?--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 22:59, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
It's entirely possible to edit the page, I'm just wondering what's on the page that no edit tab appears The FCP Foundation (talk/stalk) 17:45, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

It's in MediaWiki:common.css:

/*Remove edit tab from To do list*/
.page-RationalWiki_To_do_list #ca-edit { display: none !important; }

It looks like all pages get a class page-NAME on the body page; e.g. Ray Comfort has page-Ray_Comfort. Carpetsmoker (talk) 13:09, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

"All Logs" link on left-hand side.[edit]

Doesn't seem to be there. What's up with that? Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 05:50, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Per above, I went "wtf" and removed it. Back now - David Gerard (talk) 08:33, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, D. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 08:49, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

squid1 very slow[edit]

squid1 seems to be very slow; in the last ~30 mins there it at least a 10 second delay before it responds to any requests. squid2 is fine... Carpetsmoker (talk) 21:39, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Alas, a slow squid. Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 22:21, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
memcached fell over again. Must do that upstart script, having done literally that job for work - David Gerard (talk) 00:59, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Abusefilter false positive[edit]

Hi there, can't post on other people's talk pages due to the "meany" abuse filter entry, which seems to have been added recently. My comment was not vandalism. Seems over-sensitive. (talk) 06:01, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I have taken care of it and sent the person manning that filter a message about what they did wrong. John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt (talk) 06:20, 21 January 2016 (UTC)


Has the search function stopped working (other than for exact page titles)? WéáśéĺóíďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 20:34, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

FUCKING THING. I need to work out why the upstart script isn't restarting it - David Gerard (talk) 00:21, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Saloon Bar article bar problem[edit]

I can't click at the article bar links (edit, add section and so on), is there a way to fix it?--Kugelschreiber (talk) 12:13, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

They work for me ... memcached is up on both apache1 and apache2 ... anyone else getting this? - David Gerard (talk) 15:51, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
I can get to the pages by pressing the keyboard shortcuts, though, so is there maybe some kinda temporary solution to this problem (probably through a userspace stylesheet? I dunno how to make such a stylesheet ;_;)?--Kugelschreiber (talk) 16:18, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
IIRC, it's an issue with the image at the top of the page masking the links behind it. Changing the visual style from preferences can fix it. Queexchthonic murmurings 16:28, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
By using my (modest) Google-fu, I came upon this archive page entry, which worked. Could someone add it to the global stylesheet, please?--Kugelschreiber (talk) 16:28, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

New member here, cannot edit my user page.[edit]

I am attempting to create an article in User:Aeonian/sandbox, as recommended by the Help page for writing the article before it is complete, but I unable to save my work. At first, I was told I was attempting to edit another user's space, after another try it told me to come here.

I'm guessing this is just a permissions problem, since I just signed up for this site.

Thank you in advance for your help :). Aeonian (talk) 07:23, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Edit: Nevermind, I figured out it was because I had not added any content to my main user page yet. Sorry for the post Aeonian (talk) 07:23, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
We apologise for the hiccup, you'd probably be unsurprised just how many bots that catches - David Gerard (talk) 10:20, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Problem with the display of Wikicommons images[edit]

Wikicommons images won't show in the articles all of a sudden. When I click the link, I see the image, but they won't show up in the articles.--Kugelschreiber (talk) 12:28, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Same here, except that sometimes even the image page comes up emtpy.--ZooGuard (talk) 12:33, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
I saw this too. Wonder if they've messed with the API again ... it's happening for other sites, I've asked what's up on the mailing lists - David Gerard (talk) 16:38, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Fixed now. If an image still won't load, add "?action=purge" to the URL - David Gerard (talk) 17:16, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Hello Wikicommons pictures, we missed you!--Kugelschreiber (talk) 19:24, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

If you feel like playing with upgrades[edit]

RationalWiki:Content dumps now links to http://rwdocs.org/rwconfig.tar.xz - this is a dump of our .htaccess, LocalSettings.php (with passwords removed) and our entire smelly Extensions folder (which shouldn't have embedded passwords, and if it does let me know and I'll stab it repeatedly change them). Our extensions are an unholy blend of Wikimedia extensions, third-party extensions and things Nx wrote years ago. If you feel like "that useless bastard, I'll show him", you'll need a coupla hundred gig on an Internet-accessible Linux server (I suggest Debian/Ubuntu) somewhere to play with. I would suggest: 1. create a working wiki from the dump and the extensions, verifying all extensions work 2. upgrade it to 1.23 3. test stuff again 4. tell the mob to have at it for testing - David Gerard (talk) 12:47, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

user:Zero is having a play with it, but anyone else is welcome to. Note that the article import takes for fucking ever. I've added a schema dump too, so you can see wtf the local extensions (completely undocumented except the actual code) do - David Gerard (talk) 15:52, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Sofar I've got a working setup going, but you would be hard pressed to get back to the point I am. Most of our custom plugins are complete failures at the moment but it is "RationalWiki" as we know and love. We're not ready yet but expect a finished package by February 12th, barring anything exploding on me. Oh, and by "import taking for fucking ever"? That would be three days on an Octacore HT with 64 Gigs of RAM. Good. Luck. Zero (talk - contributions) 10:03, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
You don't need to do a full import. Using Special:Export to get the most recent version of pages also works rather well. I got a full list of pages with some DPL-fu. Importing XML pages still took a while, but not *that* long (about a day on my Atom 330 machine). The XML file was some dozens or hundreds of megabytes (I don't remember exactly, but certainly not in the gigabytes).
This is how I set up a working RW mirror a while ago to test the new DynamicPageList extension. to which I received no reply or even acknowledgement. Many hours were wasted on that. And since other problems also received non-replies and non-fixes (gadgets still don't work...) and due to some other conflicts I lost interest and deleted the whole bunch... Carpetsmoker (talk) 19:55, 7 February 2016 (UTC)


Let's get the Echo extension installed so that people can ping each other. Men's Rights EXTREMIST (talk) 03:56, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

That'd be very useful, especially to invite people to talkpages of articles they edit (e.g. "why did you revert my edit in article x?", "I have a question about your edit in article y" and so on. You can still restrict this ability to autopatrolled users only, so that people will be discouraged to abuse this function).--Kugelschreiber (talk) 15:19, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

MediaWiki update?[edit]

Special:Version still shows 1.19.12. The wiki has been a walking security vulnerability for almost an year now. If anyone claims that RW takes user privacy seriously, I'm just going to laugh.--ZooGuard (talk) 09:57, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

This is completely ridiculous. This was even pointed out long before you brought it up last month; it's been 8 months of nothing. I should have something to start kicking shortly ... - David Gerard (talk) 22:22, 27 May 2015 (UTC) (And how isn't that section stickied anymore? Do stickies somehow have an expiration date too?) --U12345 (talk) 06:29, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Maybe if we keep pestering DG, something will happen.
For awhile there've been no archivebots, so archiving is manual. So... they last as long as whoever decides to archive them doesn't archive them. <_< FU22YC47P07470 (talk/stalk) 06:46, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Or maybe Tmtoulouse might notice and do something, or even appoint a third, more getting-things-done person with root. And 'no archivebots'? I'm pretty sure it was archived by MummificationBot in that diff... --U12345 (talk) 09:12, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Respecting the "sticky" tag is not a stock feature of pywikibot, it has to be added manually. MummificationBot ran without the necessary mod for a while, so some stickied threads got archived. It's not something nefarious.--ZooGuard (talk) 09:24, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
I never assumed it was. For awhile there've been no archivebots was just obviously incorrect as an explanation. --U12345 (talk) 19:57, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Add HTTPS[edit]

As has been firmly established in recent years, "there is no such thing as non-sensitive web traffic," and at this point adding TLS support to Apache has been made so easy that there's no excuse for not turning it on. Is there a plan to switch to HTTPS? When? If not, why not? --U12345 (talk) 06:35, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

It's been proposed dozens of times in the Saloon. IDK why nought has happened. Cømяade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 06:41, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
The same reason none of the proposed changes have happened and why ya'll running a version of MediaWiki with many security holes. (talk) 01:39, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Reason being David Gerard is apparently far too busy shit-talking a LANCBer and being passive-aggressive to even deign to actually respond to anyone's questions directly? Not even so much as a "Your request is bad and you should feel bad"? --U12345 (talk) 20:09, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Could not execute mail delivery program '/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i '[edit]

Tried to mail something, got this error message. If only there was a better way... cough cough Media Wiki upgrade FuzzyCatPotato of the Spine-chilling Pea soups (talk/stalk) 04:05, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

that, um, what ... yeah, that shouldn't happen ever. Was that the complete text, what was the precise time/date in UTC, etc - David Gerard (talk) 16:50, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

A database error has occurred[edit]

Are db errors common around here or was there some tuning going on earlier today when the front page exploded? Tekunojutsuka (talk) 16:35, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

A database error has occurred. Did you forget to run maintenance/update.php after upgrading? See: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script
Query: SELECT lc_value FROM `rw_l10n_cache` WHERE lc_lang = 'en' AND lc_key = 'deps' LIMIT 1
Function: LCStore_DB::get
Error: 1286 Unknown table engine 'InnoDB' (localhost)
MySQL shat itself yesterday and today, and I can't find a good reason why. Probably the SJWs - David Gerard (talk) 22:39, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
And again today. Bah. Looks like I'll need to track down the damn problem ... - David Gerard (talk) 13:50, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
WTF MYSQL. It went just before 0900 again today. The actual problem is that MySQL suddenly decides InnoDB isn't a suitable database engine. Usual reason is a corrupted ib_logfile, but IT KEEPS HAPPENING and IT DIDN'T BEFORE. Gah - David Gerard (talk) 11:02, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Yesterday RW threw at me: Error: 1030 Got error -1 from storage engine ( Hmm, is the disk usage on the partition where /tmp is located by any chance approaching 100%? Tekunojutsuka (talk) 08:34, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
Nope, which is what's weird. What time was this? - David Gerard (talk) 12:08, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
Maybe around 18:00 UTC and I was unable to log in, but now everything seems to work ok. Tekunojutsuka (talk) 13:20, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
17:00-22:00 was when I was beating it up, everything in that time was probably a space-time anomaly :-) - David Gerard (talk) 14:39, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

We are back. And you can't read this unless you just hit edit! Looking into this one ... - David Gerard (talk) 23:04, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh, maybe editing fixes it ... - David Gerard (talk) 23:05, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Glitches still affecting stuff[edit]

Report here!

  • If a page is blank: - hit "edit" and "save". (presumably some MediaWiki cache, that this flushes.)
  • Edits between Saturday 1700 UTC and 2200 UTC may be garbled (e.g.) - anything in these times, you're on your own and will need to fix by hand.

- David Gerard (talk) 23:21, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Fixed a few of the GG pages, the Milo Yiannopolus page, the Atheism Plus page, ongoing. For some reason, the Bible page was affected too, so it isn't just relatively recent text. - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 23:22, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
yeah, I'm going through the cover articles and anything linked from the front page. I figure there's some MediaWiki internal cache that's gotten confused - David Gerard (talk) 23:25, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
I saw a couple of blank pages earlier when I was trying to edit, but am seeing everything fine now. WẽãšẽĩõĩďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 23:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
I see some blank pages still, including alternative medicine, LGBT rights, and ratfucking (wait, what?!). Until I edit-save them, of course. Athelwulf (talk) 23:57, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
It's good to know the public can read RW's important information on ratfucking - David Gerard (talk) 00:13, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
Some pages that aren't blank are having issues too, Ham Hightail wasn't showing the Logic and Rhetoric sidebar, was just showing the text "Template:logicnav", but editing and saving also fixed the issue. -- (talk) 01:26, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
I fine that the purge function (info here) also seems to works. --Rlin (talk) 19:33, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, it'll be a cache that's stuck - David Gerard (talk) 22:48, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Can't acces Argumentum_ad_cellarium page[edit]

I can't acces to http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_cellarium for a while, tried different browsers.— Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs 22:29, 8 March 2016‎

Just you - get out o' the basement. Pippa (talk) 22:54, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Seeing newly-uploaded images[edit]

It has been the case for months now, if not over a year, that newly-updated images often do not display. Any way to fix? Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 06:24, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

The reason is that rather than having apache2 mount the images from apache1 via NFS like any sane MediaWiki would, Trent tried that and it didn't work so there's an rsync that copies them across and isn't instant - David Gerard (talk) 08:22, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
... This is probably also the reason that some images magically disappear in a black hole sometimes... You could maybe do mount -t nfs ... and edit /etc/crontab to set up a NFS? This is not rocket science. This is a 30 minute fix at most. Apparently editors losing time and images is not worth fixing. Carpetsmoker (talk) 22:44, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Problems in the David Irving article[edit]

The note about his fucked-up acronym won't show up.--Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 09:58, 7 March 2016 (UTC) 09:58, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

I tried using {{efn}} and {{notelist}} instead of the ref group things, but that didn't work either.--JorisEnter (talk) 10:18, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
This is the problem where something weird about the third-party DPL extension messes up footnoting. Cure: make the navbox first - David Gerard (talk) 11:38, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
Thx!--Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 12:17, 7 March 2016 (UTC) 12:17, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
It's not "weird". I told you exactly what the problem is and what the fix is. I spent hours on that. Did you even bother to reply? No. It will take you ten minutes to implement a fix. Don't weasel out of it by saying that "it's the extension's fault". No. It's your fault. Carpetsmoker (talk) 22:41, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Edit filter request[edit]

Some IP-hopper appears to be trying to harass someone by sticking that person's name in pages. If you're a sysop see the deleted revisons on Abortion. This seems like a good case for an edit filter, as the name is uncommon. --Ymir (talk) 04:01, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Also I just rangeblocked for 1 week as that appears to be the main range they're using. (I know my way around MediaWiki.) Yell at me if I did something wrong. --Ymir (talk) 04:10, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Maybe we ought to consider shutting off logged-out editing until this nutcase finds something else to do? Also it might be a good idea to set an edit filter for the URL he keeps posting, and set the filter to automatically block. --Ymir (talk) 03:48, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Um how about no, that would make us worse than the likes of conservapedia, should we instigate night editing too? How about checkuser and the ability to lock down the entire website so only a select few can edit. Or maybe block the entire website to everyone outside of the US! Ghost (talk) 03:51, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
I think you're being a little hyperbolic. There's a difference between dumb restrictions to keep out that liberal claptrap and temporary restrictions to stop some wacko trying to use the site to harass someone. The vast majority of wikis have logged-out editing permanently disabled; I don't think shutting it off temporarily would turn us into CP, especially if we still allow account creation. --Ymir (talk) 03:57, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

I've been adding words as they've been changing what they post. Mʀ. Wʜɪsᴋᴇʀs, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 16:47, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

I take back my comments, those trolls are a pain in the ass, especially when you can't block them and only revert them. Atleast rollback makes it easy! Ghost (talk) 06:49, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Search function[edit]

The search function has broken down again, other than for exact title matches. Thanks. ωεαşεζøίɗWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 20:43, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

This is what i get for not being around for a few days. Up now. I'll put some better gaffer tape in place - David Gerard (talk) 18:56, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Cheers D. WẽãšẽĩõĩďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 19:05, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Now it literally checks every minute if lucene is running and if it isn't, starts it. (It should have been doing this, I don't know why upstart wasn't doing this job.) - David Gerard (talk) 19:09, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Quote fail[edit]

On the Citizens for a Better Helena page, this quote does not work: {{cquote|This is why we (so few) have big mouths and have to TOLERATE the ABUSE by tho$e that say we are bigots, racists and haters. There is no excuse for this stupidity. For every 12-14 welfare recipients = 1 resettlement refugee. How is this sustainable? Would you let [[Charles Manson]] out of prison, give him a furnished house (next to you or anyone), cash stipends, food stamps, [[Obamacare]],…and take a chance knowing that he is a [[pedophile]], rapist, mass murderer,…? WTH?!! WAKE UP MONTANA?!! IF YOU DON'T STAND UP, YOU WILL BE A VICTIM!|||Gina Satterfield – March 14, 2016}} I realize that it's because of the "=" in the quote, but the supposed fix, inserting "1=" does not work either: {{cquote|1=This is why we (so few) have big mouths and have to TOLERATE the ABUSE by tho$e that say we are bigots, racists and haters. There is no excuse for this stupidity. For every 12-14 welfare recipients = 1 resettlement refugee. How is this sustainable? Would you let [[Charles Manson]] out of prison, give him a furnished house (next to you or anyone), cash stipends, food stamps, [[Obamacare]],…and take a chance knowing that he is a [[pedophile]], rapist, mass murderer,…? WTH?!! WAKE UP MONTANA?!! IF YOU DON'T STAND UP, YOU WILL BE A VICTIM!|||Gina Satterfield – March 14, 2016}} nor does this with the "name=" format since the attribution part doesn't show up:

This is why we (so few) have big mouths and have to TOLERATE the ABUSE by tho$e that say we are bigots, racists and haters. There is no excuse for this stupidity. For every 12-14 welfare recipients = 1 resettlement refugee. How is this sustainable? Would you let Charles Manson out of prison, give him a furnished house (next to you or anyone), cash stipends, food stamps, Obamacare,…and take a chance knowing that he is a pedophile, rapist, mass murderer,…? WTH?!! WAKE UP MONTANA?!! IF YOU DON'T STAND UP, YOU WILL BE A VICTIM!

So, how does this get fixed?

Have you tried the <nowiki></nowiki> tags?--JorisEnter (talk) 20:27, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
OK, that fixed it. Thanks! Bongolian (talk) 20:40, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Preventing non-autoconfirmed/patrolled members from making massive edits?[edit]

So I'm thinking, should we have some sort of filter that prevents massive edits by non-autoconfirmed/patrolled members? That is, if a BoN adds in or removes more than 5000 characters to an article at once, the edit is prevented and the BoN is blocked for 5 minutes? Because usually when this happens, the BoN is adding in huge amounts of spam or is blanking pages. CorruptUser (talk) 16:57, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

This stuff is easy to spot in recent changes (which there are nearly always people looking at) & deal with promptly. Large additions/subtractions of text appear with the character count bolded, and page-blanking generates an automatic statement in the edit comment. I'd rather not have more restrictions added to new accounts/B0Ns than we already have. WěǎšěǐǒǐďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 17:39, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
I don't think, that this is necessary. Such edits are bolded in the watchlist and the recent changes page anyway so that the regulars here take a look. Blatantly bullshit edits are normally spotted fast that way.--Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 18:07, 10 April 2016 (UTC) 18:07, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
The above. Some BoNs genuinely make useful contributions (141.something is one that simply refuses to make an account, but there are lots and lots of others that just happen to be passing by). Besides, some significantly problematic issues (telephone numbers and other spam) are usually caught by the edit filter.--JorisEnter (talk) 18:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
141.something does have an account, a moderator account in fact. CorruptUser (talk) 00:43, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
The proposal is interesting, but it I think it will be ineffective. They could always add 4,000 characters of spam under your proposal. All you need is 1 rollback and the ability to block in order to prevent this problem.--Owlman (talk) (mail) 01:13, 11 April 2016 (UTC) 01:13, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Preventing changes of over [X] bytes is easy. But it seems unnecessary -- it's tagged automatically by Filter 1 and is easily undone.
Moreover, the block length of the abusefilter cannot vary between different rules (at least, insofar as I know) and so all offenders for which "block" is enabled are blocked for 3.14 months. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 02:26, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

New redirect pages[edit]

Ok there is blatant harassment going on, but I can't use the rollback feature because the page isn't a content page. It's a redirect. Can we prevent nonautopatrolled users from making redirect pages? StickySock (talk) 17:53, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

That'd be a huge restriction on nonautopatrolled persons; redirecting isn't something that usually requries an account.
Moreover, you can certainly rollback on redirect pages.
Can you link to an example? FuzzyCatPotato of the Revolting Vortexs (talk/stalk) 18:31, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Not anymore now that Joris hid the changes made. I'll make a redirect for testing. Try to use the rollback. StickySock (talk) 18:34, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
You may have been looking for this one? That's not a redirect but it's the only form of harassment I could find (other than a username).--JorisEnter (talk) 18:38, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Okay, Fuzzy tester is made. Use rollback on it; doesn't rollback; it's a new page so it has to be deleted. But since it's a redirect, it takes slightly longer to access it directly, which is annoying on a phone. And yes Joris, that guy was what I tried to rollback but it wouldn't let me. StickySock (talk) 18:42, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
You can't rollback that redirect because you're the only contributor. Rollback reverts a page to whatever it looked like before the last user that edited it came along. It doesn't allow for direct deletion of pages, however, so if the problematic redirect was created by the troll, you will have to manually delete the page. Also, the one I referred to was a normal page, right?--JorisEnter (talk) 18:48, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
That was the guy but a different edit. The one that was a redirect but I think is hidden now. And yes, you can't rollback pages with 1 editor since that's require deleting a page. Deletion isn't too hard since it takes time to create a page, countering the extra annoyance of clicking on a page and hitting vaporize. Problem is redirect pages take a bit longer to vaporize and it's harder on a phone. Minor issue, but should we have "rollbacks" for new pages? StickySock (talk) 18:56, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Don't know if that is even possible. The occasional troll messing with redirects or a spammer creating lots of SPAM SPAM SPAMMITY SPAM should be relatively easy to deal with.--JorisEnter (talk) 18:59, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Homepage fail[edit]

The random featured article isn't showing up right now. This appears instead: "Template:Cover abstract/Herbal supplement". Bongolian (talk) 03:34, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

If you follow the link you'll see User:JorisEnter moved it, leaving no redirect, without fixing {{coverstory}} - David Gerard (talk) 07:31, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Brackets in URL for reference[edit]

There's a URL I'd like to put in a reference on the Colonic page. The URL contains a square brackets, so it does not appear correctly as a reference:
<ref>[http://www.jfponline.com/index.php?id=22143&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=176194 bla bla bla]</ref>

I tried using the nowiki tag, but that doesn't seem to work. Bongolian (talk) 19:00, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

The only way I can figure out is to URL-encode the [ and ] by replacing them with %5b and %5d:
[http://www.jfponline.com/index.php?id=22143&tx_ttnews%5btt_news%5d=176194 bla bla bla]
which produces:
bla bla bla
Carpetsmoker (talk) 19:54, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, that worked! Bongolian (talk) 23:25, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Adding to a talk page makes it think I'm spamming[edit]

I was putting a note on the talk page for The Troubles saying that it still needs a fair bit of work on the actual conflict itself rather than the background to it and the last time someone said so was five years ago, it said it was disallowed for being probable spam, harassment or dox. Not entirely sure why. SaintJimmy13 (talk) 15:58, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, it probably has something to do with the abuse filter.--Owlman (talk) (mail) 16:06, 27 April 2016 (UTC) 16:06, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, it did, the page told me to report it here. SaintJimmy13 (talk) 16:32, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
I had a look at your attempted edit and I can't find anything wrong with it. The filter is set to stop users that are not autoconfirmed from adding particular pieces of text (that are likely to be spam/harassment/dox), but as far as I can see yours contains none of that.--JorisEnter (talk) 16:40, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
So FuzzyCatPotato added what I was trying to say and said so on my talk page, I was just trying to reply to that saying "Cool, thanks, no worries" and I got the same error. I think the edit filter hates me. SaintJimmy13 (talk) 14:21, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Discussion about Hastert flagged as conspiracy theory - WTF?[edit]

The edit filter was trigger when I attempted to start a discussion on Hastert being the biggest political scandal in history. I posted no links but was alleged to have posted conspiracy theory links by the bot. No foul words were used. Objective (talk) 23:14, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Try again. Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 23:50, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Search is broken. Again.[edit]

Can we do the Carpetsmoker thing please 32℉uzzy; 0℃atPotato (talk/stalk) 04:38, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

dammit, the cron job is running, why didn't it catch that ... - David Gerard (talk) 09:45, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Missing conspiracy svg on home page[edit]

I just found that the conspiracy svg is missing on the home page, just wanted to let you guys know, i dont know if this is just me, or if it is everyone. Bubba41102The place where you can scream at me 18:23, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Same problem here. I tried moving File:Icon conspiracy alt.svg to File:Icon conspiracy.svg a week or so ago (because the "alt" version is the only one that's being used, other then by {{rated}} which places ugly green icons on talk pages), but something went wrong. After moving some more things my edits seemed to have worked without fucking up too many icons, but apparently it's back.--JorisEnter (talk) 18:30, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Rename page[edit]

Can someone with adequate permission rename the page Hans Hörbiger to be Hanns HörbigerWikipedia? Thanks. Bongolian (talk) 18:15, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Done. Don't you have that permission yourself?--JorisEnter (talk) 18:19, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Edits flagged as harmful[edit]

Whenever I try to edit Timothy Mousseau I get a warning saying "This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. The abuse rule which your action matched is: Probable spam, harassment, or dox". and to report it here. My edit isn't anything bad, so I'm not sure why this is getting flagged. Can anyone help with this? Thanks Nuclear balance (talk) 13:49, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure why this got caught either. The edit does not seem harmful AFAIK, so I've added your content to the page. The edit filter occasionally catches a false positive.--JorisEnter (talk) 13:53, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing that! Nuclear balance (talk) 14:03, 2 May 2016 (UTC)