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Subsection link

What extension does Wikipedia use to get the subsection links next to each subsection title? FU22YC47P07470 (talk/stalk) 13:39, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

What r u talking about? ClickerClock (talk) 04:45, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

I think Fuzzy means the "§" link that appears next to the headings, that links to the anchor for that heading. (once again, memorising the ASCII code for section signs comes in handy!) —Kazitor, ^pending 08:28, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

@FuzzyCatPotato, yall happy now?

See the main article on this topic: Goat § What to do with a Goat and a stool

Encyclopedia § Etymology See the Wikipedia article on Encyclopedia § Ancient times. —ClickerClock (talk) 05:24, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Not what I meant... I mean, that's really good :) But I recall there once being a § link next to the actual sections on a page. I'm not sure where it went. —Kazitor, ^pending 05:35, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

I have no idea what you mean. —ClickerClock (talk) 05:44, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Like, on the page there is a heading that says "Subsection link (sticky)". Next to it, either before or after the "edit" link, there was a single, grey "§" link that appended the appropriate anchor to the URL, e.g. §. —Kazitor, ^pending 06:13, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Screenshot? —ClickerClock (talk) 12:34, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Subsections playing up

I've seen this a few times, it was this revision and the wikitext seems normal. Christopher (talk) 09:33, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

The error occurs when a subsection is immediately before the end of a page. I'd bet that this is a result of the MediaWiki upgrade, but I've really no idea. Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 17:06, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

And as these edits should make clear, this only occurs on certain pages. It could also be a template -- maybe something didn't close a div or a span and it's fucking with the subsections. Herr FüzzyCätPötätö (talk/stalk) 17:07, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

This is not a result of the recent upgrade. This has been an issue for years.—€h33s3βurg3rF@€3  (talk • stalk) 17:09, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Vandal bin logs use the wrong language

They appear to use the language of the person who did the binning, not the one of the viewer. See original example and tests. Don’t remember this coming up before, could be a new issue since @Tim Starling fixed it to work with the newer mediawiki (don’t know if we’re using the newer version or not). Christopher (talk) 14:00, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Only be an issue with language shared by the blocking function (“autoblock disabled” etc) because vandal bin exclusive language (parole etc) isn’t ever translated. Christopher (talk) 14:09, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

We're still on 1.27 fwiw. The upgrade hasn't occured yet (check it on Special:Version). Techpriest (talk) 15:50, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Yeah if the wiki as a whole were upgraded we’d know, I wasn’t sure if the main wiki uses the old or new version of he vandal bin extension. Christopher (talk) 15:59, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

It’s an issue on the test wiki as well Christopher (talk) 16:02, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

In the MW 1.35 version, I've completely removed the options list from the log, so this is not a problem anymore. Per Christopher's request, I removed everything related to vandal binning IP addresses. -- Tim Starling (talk) 06:09, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Another vandal bin issue - you can bin and patrol people whilst blocked

Doubt that’s intentional. Christopher (talk) 22:34, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

We could probably just change

$wgVandalBrakeConfigRemoveRights = [ 'move', 'skipcaptcha', 'rollback' ];

to

$wgVandalBrakeConfigRemoveRights = [ 'move', 'skipcaptcha', 'rollback', 'vandalbin' ];

in the PHP code. JJP_Master 23:13, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Haven’t checked but $wgVandalBrakeConfigRemoveRights surely governs what rights are removed when you’re binned, not what rights are removed when you’re blocked. Not letting binned people access the bin would be a bad idea. Christopher (talk) 23:20, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

(EC) Does this only apply to sysops who are blocked, or to all users who are blocked? If it's the latter than it should definitely be fixed; if it's the former than while less problematic, it would still be great to patch it (since many bugs occur when a sysop is blocked, e.g. not having their talkpage comments show up as patrolled). --Goatspeed. _{Stalk me}CircularRasoning^{See my latest prototypes} 23:21, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Non-sysops can’t bin/parole people anyway. Christopher (talk) 23:23, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Rename account

Can my account be renamed to arp242? It's what I use pretty much everywhere these days. I think MediaWiki should have some facility for this – or at least, I was able to rename my account on Wikipedia after filling in a form. Thanks! Carpetsmoker (talk) 17:56, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Done.

We have a dedicated page for this: RationalWiki:Requests to change username. I don’t think it’s linked from anywhere prominent though. Christopher (talk) 18:00, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Ah cheers, I missed that. Thanks! Arp242 (talk) 18:01, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Unable to download rebutr plug-in for Chrome

I’ve been trying to download the rebutr plug-in for Chrome, but each time I click on the “get the plug in button” (or the hyperlink below it which is specifically for Chrome) it doesn’t respond. I’ve even tried it on different devices, but still no response. Does anyone know what might be wrong here? I’ve tried contacting rebutr via the “contact” link (at the bottom of their webpage) but this resulted in a failed attempt to transfer me to a new page i.e. a webpage that wouldn’t load. I know this isn’t directly related to RW but I figured at least one person on RW must use rebutr, and may have some suggestions ... In any event, I would be very grateful if someone could help shed some light on this issue for me. Cheers. —Leucippus^Talk 20:57, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Scrapped it. Rbutr appears to be very dead since about 2017. It's not related to RW operations directly and seems to have been added originally by FCP who probably used it. Techpriest (talk) 09:15, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

@Sirius Thanks for responding and for the info. Shame, it seemed like a useful tool. Do you know of any alternatives?Leucippus^Talk 22:37, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

At risk of being snarky: Media literacy and Google-fu. Techpriest (talk) 15:18, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

On the contrary, your snark is welcome! My Google-fu skills do need improving! If I had better Google-fu skills, my research would improve and I wouldn’t have to rely on rebutr for finding rebuttals; to clarify, I use DuckDuckGo, however I imagine Google-fu search skills will transfer over-to DuckDuckGo since it uses the same search space. Additionally, If you don’t mind my asking, would you care to expand your answer on areas for improvement in Media Literacy and Google fu? (i.e. just in summary, please don’t think I expect you to give an in-depth analysis). Leucippus^Talk 18:21, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorry about my stupid previous-response (I’ll leave it up for reference and posterity). I misunderstood your comment: media literacy and Google-fu should already provide one with the relevant skill-set. Prior to finding (a now defunct) ‘rebutr’, I was already using journal search engines (e.g. Google Scholar, ResearchGate etc) to look for rebuttals—so in future—I’ll aim to improve my ‘google-fu’ skills, so as to optimise my research. I don’t know if you thought I wanted to use rebutr because I couldn’t be bothered to use media literacy skills to rebut items of interest, because this isn’t the case: my interest in using rebutr was in finding academic research that rebuted or challenged other academic research, and since words like ‘rebut’ or ‘dispute’ may not (and often don’t) occur in titles, key words, abstracts etc., I thought rebutr offered a helpful and convenient tool for finding conflicting research. Do let me know if I’m wrong about this though: can ‘Google-fu’ skills enable one to find rebuttals or disputes of academic research? e.g. a rebutal of a Google scholar article by another Google scholar article. Leucippus^Talk 23:29, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Intermittent 503 Errors

Today, I'm getting intermittent 503 errors accessing the site. They seem to reliably go away by closing the site and reopening it in a new tab. Something about varnish. 𝒮𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓃𝑒 ^talk 22:24, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm getting the 503 varnish errors now, too. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 23:21, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Me too. I’m getting a 503 varnish error that reads “Backend fetch failed”. Leucippus^Talk 23:39, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm getting that too. Also for a while I couldn't vote on stuff at WGIO, which I'm guessing is a consequence of server issues? --RWRW (talk) 23:59, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Ha! Just got a 503 error when trying to open "Intermittent 503 Errors". Scream!! (talk) 00:46, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

I got that yesterday. Just now, I'm getting longer than normal search response time. Bongolian (talk) 17:45, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Mobile view

Copied from RW:ATIM.

Wikipedia and a bunch of other wikis have it - it displays a different screen on Mobile then on computer. I find that quite helpful as I used to edit from mobile quite a bit on those wikis([1][2][3], as just a few examples), and who does it on RW sometimes, I find it annoying to have to read it like a computer which it isnt desgined for and it would be much easier if I could just edit on a mobile based interface. Is there anyway we can make that happen? Also please tell me if I put this in an incorrect location and if it belongs somewhere else. --Gale5050 (talk) 23:47, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

1) Wrong place. This should have been posted here: RationalWiki:Technical support. 2) Already answered many times: we have limited technical support at the underlying software level, and software is currently undergoing upgrades. Bongolian (talk) 00:05, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

@Bongolian Moved to correct spot.Gale5050 (talk) 20:25, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Bongolian answered your question completely. We need a site upgrade to do this and then we need to configure the site to support this. The former is the big deal and we're still waiting for a migration. (Tim started the process on a test wiki but from what I gather it might as well have stagnated into obsoletion). Techpriest (talk) 20:38, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Install OATHAuth for 2-Factor Authentication

That one extension that allows 2FA with Authy or Google Authenticator. Exaskliri (talk) 13:18, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Would be nice, but... yeah we'd need to update the server first and you know how that's going. Techpriest (talk) 13:44, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

I don't know how that's going. Exaskliri (talk) 14:09, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

It's not going well. This site is run by truly lazy absentee landlords who can't relinquish control and whom its users lack the sense to boot. ^{— Unsigned, by: 2600:1007:B0D9:D42A:1546:3A72:622B:ECD4 / talk}

How have you utilise daycolours in background?

I want to transplant {{daycolor}} to my MediaWiki website like this screenshot. But I found nothing in Common.js. Have you done this without JavaScript? How could you do this? — 物灵 (talk) 03:19, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Check the edit page. Daycolor highly relies on parsing the magic words for the current date and parserfunctions. So... "how could you do this without JS" -> Parserfunctions. -- Techpriest (talk) 09:33, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Account creation spam

Hundreds of spambots accounts are being created on a daily basis here and already represent most of the recent changes page. Isn't there anything we can do (a better captcha maybe?) to prevent this spam on the user creation log? GeeJayK (talk) 14:08, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

I feel like we really need Checkuser and to update MediaWiki for this to happen. Rockford the Roe ^{boop my snoot}_{praise Oscar Wilde} 14:29, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Again, limiting account creation per IP within a certain timeframe would be a good idea. Plutocow (talk) 15:56, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

CU is a last resort IMO. There are reasons for it but at the same time do keep in mind that a lot of RWs "identity" is based on the fact that we do extend this kind of privacy to our users. If the techs really want it, keep in mind that I'll push for a very extensive discussion and debate. I don't want this to be some quiet backroom vote because it will affect every user on the site. Surely we can resolve this in other ways first? @Plutocow unforutnately this doesn't appear to be possible with our current setup. -- Techpriest (talk) 18:03, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

I agree with Techpriest. There has been consistent opposition to CU on RW over the years even with an evolving user base. Bongolian (talk) 18:08, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

I've supported CU before, but I'm not sure anymore. I understand that many users want to keep their identities hidden and even if I believe it would be better in long term I respect these users enough (indeed, I remember one of our new trustees saying that they wouldn't browse this site anymore if we ever adopt CU). Nonetheless, can we discuss other forms to deal with the spam? Apparently they use the same logic (ie. a first name, a surname and two numbers). Is there any way to blacklist these? GeeJayK (talk) 18:14, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

We always opposed Checkuser and should continue to do so. I don't suppose I'd be missed but I'd quit if CU was enabled as would several others. I suggest blocking creation of accounts with two or more numbers in them. Scream!! (talk) 18:37, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Around 40 accounts in 10 minutes. This is getting ridiculous. Maybe it's just a troll playing with us. GeeJayK (talk) 19:34, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

At this point, we should just lock account creation for a couple days. Plutocow (talk) 19:54, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Checkuser is a terrible idea, something we’ve been consistently opposed to for the site’s entire history. We’re not going to enable it because of a minor annoyance it’s not even well-equipped to solve.

The vast majority of these accounts aren’t even tripping the edit filter, presumably stopped by captcha. Christopher (talk) 20:27, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘The edit filter has been blocking these things like crazy, and clearly autoblock is not doing a damn thing. A couple are even managing to slip past the filter. This seems like some kind of bot farm or potential attempt at a DDoS attack. We should temporarily lock the account creation before it does any real damage. Plutocow (talk) 20:46, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Looks like your garden variety link spam bot to me. Some of the phrases ("Friends call him Manuel", "I'm Karlene Ruck", etc.) are Googleable as spam on other Wikis. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 21:45, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

It's an SEO bot farm, same as usual. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 21:50, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Removed telegram

This is a bit of a small notice, but I have removed the Telegram group from the sidebar. It's entire contents consisted of a single Tiktok and Rockford the Roe asking for staff. Given that a dead RW community on Telegram has been squatted in the past by homophobes and conspiracy theorists (here), I opted to go slightly ahead of the curve on this one. Given how dead it is, I didn't think it would need a vote but I'm recording it here for posterity. -- Techpriest (talk) 11:51, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Seems reasonable. Bongolian (talk) 16:24, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Patio spammer

Can someone please edit the filter so it can stop the patio SEO spammer? This spammer keeps getting past the filter, and considering that it constantly uses similar words such as "patio", "furniture store", and "NJ", it should be easy to stop. Plutocow (talk) 20:09, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Inactive tech

User 142․124․55․236 is an inactive tech. Monet ^Ye 08:57, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Search downtime Oct 1

Our hosting company Linode is migrating our search1 server to new hardware. This will be at 04:00 UTC on 1 October. You should just see searches failing while it migrates the disk data - David Gerard (talk) 14:52, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Did they give any ETA for how long the migration will take? -- Techpriest (talk) 18:00, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Update username filter

Things like "troon", "Hitler", and "KKK" should not be allowed in usernames but they keep getting past the username filter. Can someone please update it? Plutocow (talk) 14:50, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

What's "troon"? Scream!! (talk) 16:32, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

See: Transgender glossary#Troon. Bongolian (talk) 16:40, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Aah! Scream!! (talk) 16:43, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Rockford added troon. I added Hitler. I'm refraining from adding KKK because it seems false positive prone. -- Techpriest (talk) 11:52, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Can you honestly think of any legitimate usernames that would have three K's in a row? Plutocow (talk) 15:56, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

FokkKnight72? No idea tbh. Adding it.CorruptUser 20:14, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

In other news, I got the edit filter to stop partial blankings, so, yay. CorruptUser 21:08, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Need help with uploading and image

This discussion was moved here from RationalWiki:Saloon Bar.

Unfortunately, I lost my password to my old RW account and no longer have the sysop privileges I need to upload an image. Could someone upload the image below and indicate it was originally published for Current Affairs Magazine and the artist is Chelsea Saunders? I'd like to use it for the Intellectual Dark Web article, and I e-mailed them and received permission from Chelsea Saunders and the editor of Current Affairs Magazine (Nathan Robinson) for that. (I can show a snapshot of my e-mail for evidence if anyone wants to see it.)

The picture in question: https://www.chelseasaunders.me/dark-web-currentaffairs

QuestionAffairs (talk) 17:15, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

I tried. What I got instead is:

[7e64f5261bcd686482fe4d81] /wiki/Special:Upload UploadStashFileException from line 266 of /srv/rw_common/core/includes/upload/UploadStash.php: Error storing file in '/tmp/phpwUXDGT': Could not store file "/tmp/phpwUXDGT" at "mwstore://local-backend/local-temp/7/7e/20211007222958!phpwUXDGT.jpg".

Backtrace:

1. 0 /srv/rw_common/core/includes/upload/UploadBase.php(945): UploadStash->stashFile(string, string)
2. 1 /srv/rw_common/core/includes/upload/UploadBase.php(958): UploadBase->stashFile()
3. 2 /srv/rw_common/core/includes/upload/UploadBase.php(967): UploadBase->stashFileGetKey()
4. 3 /srv/rw_common/core/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php(370): UploadBase->stashSession()
5. 4 /srv/rw_common/core/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php(494): SpecialUpload->showUploadWarning(array)
6. 5 /srv/rw_common/core/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php(206): SpecialUpload->processUpload()
7. 6 /srv/rw_common/core/includes/specialpage/SpecialPage.php(522): SpecialUpload->execute(NULL)
8. 7 /srv/rw_common/core/includes/specialpage/SpecialPageFactory.php(577): SpecialPage->run(NULL)
9. 8 /srv/rw_common/core/includes/MediaWiki.php(282): SpecialPageFactory::executePath(Title, RequestContext)
10. 9 /srv/rw_common/core/includes/MediaWiki.php(735): MediaWiki->performRequest()
11. 10 /srv/rw_common/core/includes/MediaWiki.php(509): MediaWiki->main()
12. 11 /srv/rw_common/core/index.php(43): MediaWiki->run()
13. 12 /srv/rw_common/config/wrapper.php(17): require(string)
14. 13 {main}

I do have a full size version of the whole thing, if there's a workaround for this. Smerdis of Tlön, wekʷōm teḱsos. 22:32, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

It could be that you're trying to upload the webp filetype. I've never been able to upload that file type on RW, but if you convert it to another file type such as jpg, it should work. Bongolian (talk) 02:58, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Yep, converted to a JPG and it uploaded fine. QuestionAffairs, you should be able to change the summary and the license to what you need, I think. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 03:34, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

After yours went through, mine went fine. Mine's bigger. This helps because the text is kinda the point. Smerdis of Tlön, wekʷōm teḱsos. 04:02, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Tech note - WEBP as a format can very easily be malformed (a lot of sites claim to host WEBP, but it's then just a jpg or a png); my guess is that this is the case and Mediawikis internal validation prevents it from being seen as correct. I can't do much about it, outside of just suggesting that you shouldn't be using WEBP on the site. (The alternative is that imagemagick is hopelessly outdated and doesn't support WEBP, but this doesn't appear to be the case; we're from what I can tell using a recent enough version of Ubuntu that should have a build that supports WEBP). -- Techpriest (talk) 21:54, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

That's interesting. Could the problem in the WEBP file be propagating into the converted JPG file? On my computer, the JPG image shows up fine on this page File:CurrentAffairs darkweb insta edited.jpeg but not on the Intellectual Dark Web, where it's used. Bongolian (talk) 23:21, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

It renders fine on my browser on the IDW page. What browser are you using? I'm using latest Firefox so... -- Techpriest (talk) 15:36, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

I'm using Firefox 93.0 on MacOS 11.6. Weirdly, I changed the 320px to 350px and it now shows up. Bongolian (talk) 17:13, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Quick administraitve request

No one has blocked the following abusers.

• User:Three shops in one district? Somebody pinch me, 'cause I gotta be dreaming!
• User:My apples are stuck inside my door locks
• User:I'm seriously in love with bald people
• User:My love for the wiki is a passion that burns deep

Can someone get to blocking these block evaders? Thanks. Andrew5 (talk) 03:04, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Also let me add in User:Wah-hah-hah! Look how big my shop got! That's kinda surprising, even for me!.Andrew5 (talk) 03:05, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, failed to check, while 3 more socks need blocking, that was blocked 11/28.Andrew5 (talk) 03:10, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ All socks are appropriately blocked now. Andrew5 (talk) 17:44, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

File upload

There might be a problem with file uploading. I've tried to upload an image both through the 'insert' tab in editing and through the upload file link. It gives me a "stash" error. Jake Holmes^{yell at me} 21:00, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

It may be an intermittent problem. See above: Problem uploading image. Bongolian (talk) 21:39, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

It is a mediawiki bug. It was fixed in 1.31. We are still on 1.27. There's an LTS update to 1.35. What's taking the upgrade so long, I do not know. We're approaching six months on the testwiki being alive. Complain to the board or to Tim Starling individually (given he's a Mediawiki developer, I don't think his talkpage here would net you much good however) to get this stuff updated, nobody here can do it (I could ask David but Tim was working on the test wiki so interfering with his work is probably a bad idea). Every extension works except for election which we couldn't even test. -- Techpriest (talk) 22:24, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Edit save failure

There seems to be a problem with not being able to save edits starting last night (US time). Bongolian (talk) 17:58, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Seems to work now. Bongolian (talk) 17:59, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

No, I'm still getting the problem. It must be intermittent or conditional. The error message that I'm getting is "Secure Connection Failed". Bongolian (talk) 18:03, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Try refreshing your browser? Certificates were renewed on the 17th. Maybe your date time is out of sync. -- Techpriest (talk) 22:11, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

OK, I haven't had a problem since the last one. Bongolian (talk) 03:42, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Looking back at the pattern now, it seems that I only got that error message when editing the entire Cold War page at once. I got that error message again when editing and trying to save or preview the whole page, but not when editing a part of the page. Perhaps its due to the size of the large page (now 159,680 bytes)? Bongolian (talk) 04:45, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Annotated Quran search box not working correctly

The search box was not returning no results. The search incorrectly used "Annotated Qur'an" rather than "RationalWiki:Annotated Qur'an" for the prefix, which I have now fixed. It now however is an incomplete search for some reason. For the search of 'usury' it only returns one result (Qur'an 4:161)[4] even though there are several (e.g., Qur'an 2:275-278 and Qur'an 4:161). Bongolian (talk) 21:56, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Hrm, probably an issue with template expansion. RationalWiki makes use of CirrusSearch. There's probably something funky going on with the way the sura template is set up. -- Techpriest (talk) 22:11, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Why does RW not use Short Description?

Question in the header. Duncan from Teflpedia (talk) 03:56, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

We haven't updated MediaWiki for that feature, probably. — 𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭 ^{talk stalk} 06:11, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm assuming it's in reference to this Wikipedia feature? If so, that's done with an Extension that we don't have installed. We don't have a site tagline set because we don't have one. -- Techpriest (talk) 22:16, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

We should definitely install the extension, though I do want to note one particular Wikipedia user got into trouble over them, so a page of rules on how to do them would also be necessary. Andrew5 (talk) 22:31, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Eh that's not that big of a concern. -- Techpriest (talk) 12:46, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, it's Wikipedia. Of course it's going to have pages and pages of instructions that somebody is not going to be able to follow. Duncan from Teflpedia (talk) 13:36, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

is MediaWiki:Statistics-summary broken?

I think this is supposed to display at the top of special:statistics.

I'm not an admin here, so I can't check it. Can someone who is try changing it, and then checking Special:Statistics? It doesn't seem to work.

Both RW and WP's versions are just empty.

No biggie; just wanted to check I'm not insane. Duncan from Teflpedia (talk) 03:56, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Our site doesn't support Statistics-summary yet. Gonna throw that one on the pile of "shit that needs the goddamn site update". -- Techpriest (talk) 12:42, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

I think that I remember from waaaaay back that there was some definite reason for the stats being unobtainable. (Not mediawiki update but somehow server related?) There was, if I recall correctly, a page view or edit count at the foot of every page until then. Scream!! (talk) 13:09, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

I think you misunderstand me. special:statistics is generating valid results (I think), but it's the system message at the top of the page isn't displaying. Duncan from Teflpedia (talk) 08:22, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

I know what you're referring to and that feature is for Mediawiki 1.36 onwards. We aren't running that yet. -- Techpriest (talk) 11:41, 24 December 2021 (UTC)