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David Gerard[edit]

For deleting comments from his talk page [1] [2] [3] -- Nx / talk 20:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Per previous LJ ruling on the precise same issue - David Gerard (talk) 20:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

These comments were not trolling. You are abusing the LJ ruling to remove comments you don't like. -- Nx / talk 20:29, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

No, but they were posted by someone who is here only to troll, which is what the ruling covered. - David Gerard (talk) 20:31, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit warring is tedious. Why do you want to be so tedious? Wėąṣėḷőįď

^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 20:32, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

"...posted by someone who is here only to troll, which is what the ruling covered." That is blatantly false. The ruling said "delete the vile". Not just anything posted by someone you don't like. ħuman

22:28, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Suggested solution: Nx is free to preserve them himself. If he can't be bothered, they probably weren't that important - David Gerard (talk) 20:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

The point is that things here are done by discussion and consensus. The collective agreement is that this is the best way things are handled. You're currently exacerbating a situation by going against the advice and wishes of a fairly sizeable group. Users were given the right to revert anything that was obviously malicious, if people are disagreeing that it was obviously malicious then it isn't obviously malicious. You were not given the right to strip out talk comments because you didn't like the user that posted them.

^{d hominem} 20:45, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

I will be highly surprised if anything is accomplished here. Gerard continuously flouts the rules and does it with a cavalier disregard. Its time matters were discussed more seriously and for his eventual exclusion from the project by means of ostracisation. 86.40.104.238 (talk) 20:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, because the community's efforts to get rid of anyone "by means of ostracism" so far have been sooo successful...--ZooGuard (talk) 20:54, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

The final word there was: "obviously vile comments can be deleted by anyone. Others leave up to the person who's talk page it is. Article talk pages: delete the vile; ignore the trivial". I don't see any inherent issue in user talk pages being covered by that, since anyone with a message that's important can hit the saloon bar and have their comments stick - assuming it's not just a repetitive stream of junk. How about the concept that user talk pages are pretty much considered to be like our houses? i.e. we can manage them as we wish, but talk pages and the article talk pages (and other common area) should be treated more carefully? Concernedresident ^{omg!!! ponies!!!} 21:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

This doesn't really seem the right place to discuss that. Better at the Community Standards page. Wėąṣėḷőįď

^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 21:29, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

That would be a huge change to policy we have had since day one - user page is their "castle", user talk page is community property - with the one exception we now sort-of have of deleting the "obviously malicious or vile". ħuman

22:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Where can I read RationalWiki "policies"? Maybe you mean the "Community Standards"? It appears that DG didn't follow that ideal [4], but if you are going to take away user rights for these sorts of things, I think you should first write the rules for bureaucrats and sysops, including the "punishments". ~ Lumenos (talk) (other talk pages: LI1, LI2, WP) 21:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

86 and Nx have a good point here, and DG is only being obfuscative in response, indeed, interpreting the LJ "decision" in his own special way. Thoughts? ħuman 07:10, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps DG is following in your footsteps when you "interpreted" your fellow LJ in the "Case Closed" section. Human wrote, "So the LJ returns a decision. As per Toastie on the talk page, 'obviously vile comments can be deleted by anyone. Others leave up to the person who's talk page it is. Article talk pages: delete the vile; ignore the trivial.' The Local Jumpsuits have spoken." But there is a post there that reads "I remove all MC posts as it is and seems to be working just fine. Ace i9". Maybe DG thinks that means he should do the same for anyone he considers to be a troll. ~ Lumenos (talk) (other talk pages: LI1, LI2, WP) 21:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

The problem with Gerard is that he is a parasite sucking the lifeblood and everything that is good right out of Rationalwiki. He constantly breaks the rules and does so with a cavalier disregard. He ought to be punished. 86.40.200.2 (talk) 21:47, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

What punishment would be appropriate? ~ Lumenos (talk) (other talk pages: LI1, LI2, WP) 22:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Ace ^X-102 22:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Thirteen lashes with a dry noodle, administered by the dominatrix of his choice? We get pretty harsh here... ħuman

05:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, I'll do it. Ace ^X-102 05:52, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

File:Ginmachismo.jpg

Mr. Gerard, it's time for your punishment....

Sweet. David, please to bend over now. And drop 'em. ħuman

06:29, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

One of the examples Nx posted in the OP was Earthlands comments being smalled. Apparently Human wrote, "All of Earthland's comments on talk pages that are not welcome may be triple-smalled. So may any of yours. Oops, did you read this? Then this applies to you as well. ħuman 12:32, 8 June 2010 (UTC)" ~ Lumenos (talk) (other talk pages: LI1, LI2, WP) 13:38, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I should probably work to create a safe space for the trolls while going off on reversion sprees of anyone I argue with, always marked of course as minor edits. Because safety for blatant trolls is safety for reversion sprees scientifically indistinguishable from butthurt. Hey, it's another RationalWiki Insight! - David Gerard (talk) 14:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Nx[edit]

Has confessed that his troll-enabling behaviour is butthurt at not being able to rangeblock[5]. Can we go home now? - David Gerard (talk) 21:18, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

"Buthurt"? what on earth does that mean? Tiatton of (talk) 06:39, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Hurt feelings over something lame.

Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 06:45, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, let us all make fun of this process, and ignore all the problems. That has worked so well before. -- Nx / talk 21:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Process is important - David Gerard (talk) 21:28, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, making fun of it will solve all problems. -- Nx / talk 21:29, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

The "problems" here are that you spent a few months so ragingly butthurt that you couldn't block MC that you decided to promote trolling as hard as you could. That is, you have admitted that you deliberately exacerbated the problems you have now insisted on bringing to all attention. This strongly suggests the "problems" you are bringing to community attention are you being clueless. The solution to properly address them would be for you to stop it - David Gerard (talk) 21:50, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

(ec) Yes, clearly MC is only trolling because of me. -- Nx / talk 22:02, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

You've been proxying for him and encouraging him because you couldn't rangeblock him - David Gerard (talk) 22:03, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Please cite where Nx has admitted such a thing. I don't see any "confession" in the post you linked above. Wėąṣėḷőįď

^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 22:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

His edit comments of reversion over the past several months, particularly in the leadup to his LJ case. In any case, the solution to the actual problem presented in the above section remains: Nx, stop deliberately being a fuckwit - David Gerard (talk) 22:02, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

I say we let him rangeblock. EddyP (talk) 21:21, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree, although on the understanding that it's a trial period to see how it works? Rangeblocking could get pretty widespread if MC decides to shift around proxies or use the college machines - assuming he's still studying. With the college IPs though he's far more limited in what he can do. Concernedresident ^{omg!!! ponies!!!} 21:27, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

I've not followed any of this, but is it anything to do with you getting pulled up deleting stuff from your talkpage, Dave? DeltaStar_{Senior Sysop}^{Speciationspeed!} 22:16, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

I delete trolling, Nx puts it back as an IP and his motivation is that he wasn't allowed to rangeblock Marcus so did his best to prove his perception of the rules broken by enforcing them ad absurdum. Rather than, e.g., not being a fuckwit - David Gerard (talk) 22:20, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Telling you that you are wrong is not trolling, TK [6] -- Nx / talk 22:26, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

David, can you at least be civil about this? Considering the issue at hand is your perhaps abusive tendency to delete talk page comments? ħuman

22:34, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

That sounds very like having pre-decided your answer, considering you posted it below someone calling me TK - David Gerard (talk) 22:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, he added that after I clicked "edit". Nx, please don't call David "TK". David, please quit being a dick. And what "answer"? All I was doing was suggesting you leave out terms like "butthurt" and "fuckwit", at least in this discussion. ħuman

23:58, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

NX again[edit]

Wheel warring against consensus at RationalWiki:Nuclear Option. Ex-Troll Cheerleader (talk) 13:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Fuck off you obnoxious troll. - π 13:11, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

His punishment for this heinous offence is this DELICIOUS CAKE full of DEADLY NEUROTOXIN - David Gerard (talk) 13:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

i guess it was actually human in the wrong, sorry NX. Ex-Troll Cheerleader (talk) 13:44, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Superhamster[edit]

He started by questioning my pottery writing skills and then went on to claim that I have no mental abilities. If this is not bullying, then I don't know, what is. --Idiot number 59 (talk) 08:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh well, that's to be expected from age. Ace ^X-102 08:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Gerard again[edit]

Deliberate [provocation], smugness, and sustained abuses of power. Please sort out this user once and for all. Thank you. 86.40.205.7 (talk) 09:55, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Although the troll commonly found at 86.40.*.* is commonly referred to as "MC", what is the evidence that this is in actual fact the person who was User:MarcusCicero? Considering the actual username is unblocked anyway - David Gerard (talk) 09:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I dunno, you delete everything 86.40.*.* types on sight, so your argument sort of undermines itself. I meant to write this a week ago, but got distracted by something more important, like a fly on my keyboard. ħuman

07:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Radioactive afikomen should not have edited MC's userpage in the first place unless you are saying that RA is MC? Bondurant (talk) 10:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

You are so full of shit Gerard. Everybody knows you are attention seeking here. You know fine well that I am MC. And no, my account is constantly blocked. I wished ye had a bit of common sense and unblocked my MC account, rather than forcing me to edit via IPs. Its so obtuse and retarded. 86.40.205.7 (talk) 11:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I can see no record of a block since then. If you are really MC, then the step to establish the fact is obvious. If you can't demonstrate this fact, then all edits to User:MarcusCicero since the last by the actual user MarcusCicero should be reverted - David Gerard (talk) 12:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

It appears David Gerard did not revert to the last version by user:MarcusCicero[7]. ~ Lumenos (talk) (other talk pages: LI1, LI2, WP) 20:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

You are such a fucking twat. I mean really. You make 200 edits per day, oblivious to the fact that most people here despise you. Fuck off back to wikipedia. Also I tried to edit under MarcusCicero but apparantly I'm in the vandal bin. Here was the message I received; ' You are unable to edit because you have been placed into the vandal bin.

You were put in the vandal bin by Gooniepunk2010 and the reason given was: "Feeding the Troll: He can get fucked!". While we hope you had fun, we had to do something, so you can only make one edit every 30 minutes now. If this is a mistake or you have turned a new leaf please alert any sysops. You will be able to edit again in 28 minutes. The block ID is #613. Please include this in any queries. '

Gerard - kindly ball up in a corner and die, you thoroughly evil bastard. 74.63.112.138 (talk) 12:10, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

See? Not banned. You just have to use your half-hourly edit wisely and not like some sort of frothing incoherent abusive person. So use your next half-hourly edit to edit the user page as MarcusCicero to the version you want and that'll prove it's the way you want it. Until then, you're long on talk and short on evidence - David Gerard (talk) 12:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Really, you are so fucking vile. You are a disgusting person. Truly disgusting. Sooner or later people here will get fed up of you and force you out. Serious - fuck off. MarcusCicero (talk) 13:23, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Well done! Wasn't that hard, was it? I've unblocked you so you can fix your user page, there's been some IPs in the 86.40.*.* range shitting all over it. Use your half-hourly edit wisely! - David Gerard (talk) 14:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Just go fuck yourself. TomMoore blocked me for 3 months the other day. I don't know what kind of sophistries you are playing with but you look like an obese loser masturbating over his sisters underwear, you deviant freak. 86.40.205.7 (talk) 12:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Why is MarcusCicero unbinned?
Remember: Hi, This is John's brother. I know he has been using this account for a variety of reasons, none of them productive for his troublesome history of mental health problems. For obvious reasons I don't want to go into details about this but suffice to say my mother and father have decided to withdraw his access from the internet for the duration of his most recent treatment process. I apologise on my brothers behalf for any problems he may have caused this website during his period of instability. As you know, his posts have been of a bizarre quality but that is merely a reflection of his real world mental anguishes. MarcusCicero (talk) 23:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
And: 20:48, 5 December 2009 MarcusCicero (Talk \| contribs \| block) deleted "Delaware" ‎ 20:47, 5 December 2009 MarcusCicero (Talk \| contribs \| block) deleted "Argument from incredulity" ‎ 20:47, 5 December 2009 MarcusCicero (Talk \| contribs \| block) deleted "Bohemian Grove" ‎ 20:47, 5 December 2009 MarcusCicero (Talk \| contribs \| block) deleted "John F. Kennedy" ‎ 20:47, 5 December 2009 MarcusCicero (Talk \| contribs \| block) deleted "Lucid dream" ‎ 20:47, 5 December 2009 MarcusCicero (Talk \| contribs \| block) deleted "Gerald Ford"
And: My glorious run has ended. This is not a case of 'leaving and never coming back', but more a case of 'burn out'. I created a personality on the internet so radically different from the real life version that I've forgotten even what trolls remorse feels like.. (You can thank Refugee over on RWW for providing the impetus) My highlights on RW: Making loads of people mad, especially Ace, Susan, Jeeves (Hi Jeeves! Wanker) and also Kels. Doing my best to persuade half of you that I 'was a dick who has something worthwhile to say', while really just being a dick and doing my best to annoy as many people as possible. Continuously rejecting the label of troll; even though I was the most transparent 'concern troll' in history. Riding the wave of mock grievance; So many times you put me on the centre stage with a semi reasonable grievance and I made sure to maximise the fallout as much as possible. Pretending to be a scholar (I know fuck all) One regret: Stooping to do the mental illness stunt. That was a terrible miscalculation. Adios RW! I may pop in from time to time, but at least now you'll know for sure than I'm a fully fledged troll! MarcusCicero 19:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
And: On the other hand, the temptation to shake the ant farm and watch them scurrying to each others aid is far too great to overcome. MarcusCicero (talk) 10:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Quaru (talk) 12:00, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

You really are an obtuse twat. I am already unbinned in the sense that I can edit any time I like with any IP I like. And stop posting up events that happened before you ever arrived here, you pathetic NOOB. 86.40.205.7 (talk) 12:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Wow. Way to welcome new users. You're obviously a great addition to the community, who should be welcomed with open arms to keep the other pesky noobs out. I hardly have to have been here to point out what a douche you are. And I was here on June 7th. When you said you're a troll, and just want to fuck with everyone here. So on that note.

Troll: On the other hand, the temptation to shake the ant farm and watch them scurrying to each others aid is far too great to overcome. MarcusCicero (talk) 10:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Better, pumpkin? Quaru (talk) 12:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Quaru, you are incredibly irrelevant. You are like all the other aspergers morons on this site, incapable of having a sense of humour and getting offended at the smallest things. Just stay out of my way. You are a minor irritant. That is all. MarcusCicero (talk) 13:23, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

This is the best: "You are such a fucking twat. I mean really. You make 200 edits per day, oblivious to the fact that most people here despise you." Haha yes what a lack of self-awareness.--^talk 14:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Another Ace McWicked Fan Club Meeting[edit]

Ole! Ole! Ole!

RA[edit]

RA has protected his page for too long, contravening this sites most fundamental rules. It will not stand. It will not. 86.40.203.66 (talk) 16:57, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

A bit of context. I was going on to his talk page to deliver a mortal blow to his authority, but realised the page was protected and thus I had no editing rights there. not only has RA been deprived of the opportunity to learn from his own failings as a consequence of gentle prodding from yours truly, RA has also managed to substantiate the charge of authoritarianism so justly laid down on his door. 86.40.203.66 (talk) 16:59, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Harrumph. Undone.

Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 02:39, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I'll Harrumph you in a second. Ace ^X-102 02:41, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, RA, that was the right thing to do. ħuman

07:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Eighty-six-point-something[edit]

For not recognising MY status as resident n00b. SJ ^Debaser 14:40, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Ex-Troll Cheerleader (talk) 22:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

SuperJosh[edit]

For whining like a girl. Again. And for not letting me dress him in the pink pinafore. --PsyGremlinRunāt! 14:52, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Since he wont wear a dress perhaps hed like to barrow my cheer uniform? Ex-Troll Cheerleader (talk) 22:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Human[edit]

Called me "British" - David Gerard (talk) 08:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Do you prefer "English"? I do. SJ ^Debaser 10:11, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

FIE ON YOU LOWLY NATIVE BORN SLIME - David Gerard (talk) 10:33, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

I was offended by that comment as well. Lily ^{Inspirate me.} 11:17, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

GREETINGS. I HAVE COME FROM AUSTRALIA TO ENHANCE YOUR BRITISH GENE POOL - David Gerard (talk) 11:48, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

You could have made that clearer. MARCVS ANTONIVS 11:49, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

MY FIRST EFFORTS IN THIS REGARD APPEAR SUCCESSFUL BUT KEEP WAKING ME UP FAR TOO EARLY TO PLAY WITH THE KITTEN. She threw the damn beast over my face this morning, its claws outstretched - David Gerard (talk) 11:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

but... but... I thought all guys liked a pussy to play with in the morning? --PsyGremlinSermā! 12:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

This pussy ... it's a guy. Until we cut its balls off, of course. - David Gerard (talk) 12:05, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Ah well that explains everything... I'd also claw your eyes out if you tried cutting my balls off. --PsyGremlinSnakk! 12:11, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

So, you're not a tea-sucker, you're a criminal? Glad that's cleared up. I R Ape (talk) 15:15, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot that Australia is quasi-independent nowadays. ħuman

19:13, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Violation of Site Policy by (You guessed it) David Gerard[edit]

David Gerard continuously bans my IP accounts and says 'post with your unblocked account'. Does this now mean that IPs are not allowed to post if they possess an unbanned full account?

I would appreciate clarification in this matter, and would also like to know why Gerard still continues, even after relentless reminders that he is not above the law, continues to flout the rules of this site with such cavalier regard.

Yours etc. MarcusCicero (talk) 14:53, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

MC, how do I say this nicely? You have a perfectly good account, which it would appear you are capable of using. If you're going to post from a myriad IP address, then you could be mistaken for a troll and treated as such. I think you'll also find that the bans are 'nuisance' block of a few hours. Or at worst, the vandal bin. --PsyGremlinParla! 15:07, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

If you're in the vandal bin - which you are, so that you may post once half-an-hour thoughtfully until you demonstrate you can post like someone who isn't a frothing troll - then you really shouldn't be trying to evade it. Go on. Show us the power of quality posting. I know you can do it - David Gerard (talk) 15:10, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

In other words Gerard is uber trolling. He is deliberately and maliciously targeting me in order to garner an emotional response, and hence make this website a less fun place to be in. He is so full of shit its beyond humour.

Besides, this is irrelevant. Gerard is breaking the site rules and you lot are letting him get away with it. Again. I'm struggling to understand why. Its clear there is a groundswell of discontent against Gerard, I don't understand why this popular animosity doesn't translate itself into persecution. i should know. I've been getting a lot of emails from disaffected members of this site concerning Gerard. Including one urging me to continue my campaign against him.

You really have no clue what you're up against here, Gerard. MarcusCicero (talk) 16:28, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Y'know, you'd probably do better if you showed evidence you weren't an argument in favour of fascism - David Gerard (talk) 17:02, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

No fair!! Someone stop him from trolling the troll!! On a related note, Gerard is right. If we're only fascist against MC, I say go for it. That guy's a tool. Quaru ^{beagle - You can't explain that!} 17:10, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Wow! Lifted straight from the TK Big Book of Bullshit. --PsyGremlinSnakk! 16:31, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

So like.. what drives someone to troll? I mean, I'd just get bored. It takes a lot of drive to have so much passion for being an utter douche. I have to say, I'm actually impressed. My psychology training makes me want to start a study to find out just what motivates utter fuckwits like this. It's really quite amazing. I don't know.. Maybe I just have ADHD, but I'd rather go outside. Meet people. Try to be a more balanced individual. To each their own, I suppose. Quaru ^{beagle - You can't explain that!} 16:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know how to do this and

Oh well..

This is to certify that

MarcusCicero

received the

EGG LAYER AWARD FOR BEING AN ANNOYING PRAT IN THE CHICKEN COOP

From RationalWiki, on August 4th, 2010

Congrats man, you've earned it! Quaru ^{beagle - You can't explain that!} 15:33, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Silence, noob. You are both irrelevant an unfunny. Twat. MarcusCicero (talk) 16:28, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Kettle? Pot on line 2. Quaru ^{beagle - You can't explain that!} 16:36, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Has anyone else been watching Misfits - whenever I see Nathan I'm reminded of MC. Jack Hughes (talk) 16:51, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

To Clarify[edit]

I'm not going to respond to the trolling and hateful comments above. Gerard has tacitly admitted his intention here - to harass me and provoke these kinds of complaints. He obviously hopes that since I am such a divisive figure who seems to alienate people, the ignorant masses (Quaru is a fine representation of this mass idiocy that 19th century Liberals warned about with the oncoming of the mass franchise) will overlook this breach of protocol and ethics and let him away with it. His ambition? To destroy Rationalwiki and everything it stands for, evidently. He is admitting, in many ways, that his trolling is a manifestation of fascism, which he feels is justified by my very existance.

I'll not hold my breath. Rationalwiki has proven time and time again that it is impotent in the face of troublemakers of his kind. 86.40.106.235 (talk) 07:56, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Lyra Silvertounge[edit]

For being a pain in the ass MC defender. Ex-Troll Cheerleader^{I'm a teenage girl; get ALLstate to protect yourself from Mayhem like me} 12:54, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

And are we allowed to move MC's posts to a new, sub-part of our talk page? I thought that was allowed under "archiving". Quaru ^{beagle - You can't explain that!} 12:56, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

This one's a grey area. I did it to Earthland and nobody minded. EL did it to me and got jumped on. Personally I feel that archiving away junk should be allowed but I don't make the rules. Jack Hughes (talk) 13:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Community_Standards#Talk_pages - the new proposals clear this up a bit. With myself and EL it's still a bit grey but when MC is involved I think the situation is clear. Jack Hughes (talk) 13:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Let me be clear: I am not defending or supporting MarcusCicero. I am defending and supporting the principles of this wiki. Admittedly, I was absent for whatever he did this time to get everyone angry again, but I was here for most of his antics. He's a troll, but he doesn't cause much harm now. He used to cause a lot more. Lyra § talk 13:08, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Sounds alot like Neveruse. Ex-Troll Cheerleader^{I'm a teenage girl; get ALLstate to protect yourself from Mayhem like me} 13:12, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know who that is. But this topic is bogus, I think... last time I checked, enforcing the site's policies does not constitute "administrative abuse." I'm really quite easygoing, and this little ordeal is troublesome :P Lyra § talk 13:24, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh? I followed the rules, and you altered my talk page even so. Quaru ^{beagle - You can't explain that!} 13:28, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of your intentions to archive that comment, so I assumed you were deleting it. Lyra § talk 13:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh? If you check the logs, you'll find I archived it, then deleted it. Quaru ^{beagle - You can't explain that!} 13:36, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Quaru and this horrible cheerleader person really would be better off going to a website that shares their authoritarian values. They are clearly out of the mainstream here. 86.40.106.235 (talk) 13:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Ex-Troll Cheerleader[edit]

Being a fake /b/oxxy wannabe. - π 13:04, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Aww pi, stop trying to feed me. Im not a troll anymore. Psst, talk about a PI in the face. Ex-Troll Cheerleader^{I'm a teenage girl; get ALLstate to protect yourself from Mayhem like me} 13:08, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Crundy[edit]

His talk page is protected. He's also full of shit as he promised never to come back. Why can't he just man up and get over the fucking pantomine without making a massive drama about everything? For somebody who takes such pride in his IQ *snigger*, its really fucking pathetic how stupid he can be. 86.40.99.53 (talk) 20:18, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know anything about him promising not to come back. He knows he's always welcome and well-liked by people on this site who matter. What I do know is that he's in the touch with those he wants to be in touch with and that his schedule is preventing him from spending much time on RW (and policing his talk page), which I would imagine was his reason for protecting it. Hope this helps, MC. ÑR_{/Señor Admin}^{/¡hablen ustedes!} 20:45, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Wait. Didn't you promise never to come back?

Why is MarcusCicero unbinned?
Remember: Hi, This is John's brother. I know he has been using this account for a variety of reasons, none of them productive for his troublesome history of mental health problems. For obvious reasons I don't want to go into details about this but suffice to say my mother and father have decided to withdraw his access from the internet for the duration of his most recent treatment process. I apologise on my brothers behalf for any problems he may have caused this website during his period of instability. As you know, his posts have been of a bizarre quality but that is merely a reflection of his real world mental anguishes. MarcusCicero (talk) 23:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
And: 20:48, 5 December 2009 MarcusCicero (Talk \| contribs \| block) deleted "Delaware" ‎ 20:47, 5 December 2009 MarcusCicero (Talk \| contribs \| block) deleted "Argument from incredulity" ‎ 20:47, 5 December 2009 MarcusCicero (Talk \| contribs \| block) deleted "Bohemian Grove" ‎ 20:47, 5 December 2009 MarcusCicero (Talk \| contribs \| block) deleted "John F. Kennedy" ‎ 20:47, 5 December 2009 MarcusCicero (Talk \| contribs \| block) deleted "Lucid dream" ‎ 20:47, 5 December 2009 MarcusCicero (Talk \| contribs \| block) deleted "Gerald Ford"
And: My glorious run has ended. This is not a case of 'leaving and never coming back', but more a case of 'burn out'. I created a personality on the internet so radically different from the real life version that I've forgotten even what trolls remorse feels like.. (You can thank Refugee over on RWW for providing the impetus) My highlights on RW: Making loads of people mad, especially Ace, Susan, Jeeves (Hi Jeeves! Wanker) and also Kels. Doing my best to persuade half of you that I 'was a dick who has something worthwhile to say', while really just being a dick and doing my best to annoy as many people as possible. Continuously rejecting the label of troll; even though I was the most transparent 'concern troll' in history. Riding the wave of mock grievance; So many times you put me on the centre stage with a semi reasonable grievance and I made sure to maximise the fallout as much as possible. Pretending to be a scholar (I know fuck all) One regret: Stooping to do the mental illness stunt. That was a terrible miscalculation. Adios RW! I may pop in from time to time, but at least now you'll know for sure than I'm a fully fledged troll! MarcusCicero 19:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
And: On the other hand, the temptation to shake the ant farm and watch them scurrying to each others aid is far too great to overcome. MarcusCicero (talk) 10:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Yup. Quaru ^{beagle - You can't explain that!} 20:46, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Quaru, just go away you irritating little shit. I find it hard to put into words how little I value your input. You are an intellectual black hole. A complete and utter dullard. A saloon bar boor. A twat. Irrelevant. A noob. Annoying. Just fuck off. 86.40.99.212 (talk) 21:05, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Black holes are liberal inventions in order to sell more copies of the New York Times. Ace ^X-102 21:13, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, CRUNDY UBER ALLES! Ace ^X-102 21:06, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

MC, just go away you irritating little shit. I find it hard to put into words how little I value your input. You are an intellectual black hole. A complete and utter dullard. A saloon bar boor. A twat. Irrelevant. Banned. A troll. Annoying. Just fuck off. Wow. It only becomes more accurate! Quaru ^{beagle - You can't explain that!} 22:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

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This probably comes under the "other problems" banner, my urine smells of crab-cakes. Ace ^X-102 21:08, 5 August 2010 (UTC)