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Thanks RWRW! LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 22:35, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Your contributions to mainspace still need to be checked. Autopatrol revoked. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 23:02, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Susan Collins[edit]

I've moved your article to Draftspace. Feel free to continue working on it, I'm just giving you a heads up as to where it went. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:20, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 15:21, 13 August 2020 (UTC)


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You're going to have an exceedingly difficult time promoting conspiracy theories here, which you seem to be aiming to do.[1][2] Bongolian (talk) 16:02, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

It was only on talk pages, and I'm not going to insert random conspiracy theories into the mainspace here. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 16:04, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
So, do you believe in 'random conspiracy theories' or just deep state/QAnon/Pizzagate? Bongolian (talk) 16:33, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Mainly 'random conspiracy theories' and some Deep state stuff. I dunno too much about QAnon/Pizzagate, and find some of the latter sketchy though most likely rooted in facts. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 16:36, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
"It was only on talk pages" isn't quite the great defense you think it is. Wiki editing is a collaborative project. Whatever your plans are, it's going to be subject with scrutiny and you'll have to justify them to other people rather than just RobSmith. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 19:59, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Removing profanity in mainspace pages[edit]

Justifying it as making the site more "rational" isn't a good defense. You just don't like profanities? That's not a good reason to remove them. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 22:56, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

What do you mean, it's not "a good defense"? I thought this was RationalWiki! Also, what significant benefit does Autopatrolled bring? LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 23:12, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
This policy tells you all you need to know. I don't have to look it up for you, especially since your words mirror so closely to the sarcastic comeback we make to users that complain about the name of the wiki, that I genuinely don't know you're trying to act this way or not. As for the autopatrol status, it has never granted you any additional benefits; the only thing it does is automatically mark your edits as patrolled so other sysops don't have to regularly check your edits. I've found more than a few of your edits problematic, hence I've disabled autopatrolled so other users can also check your edits. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 23:17, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Score! Essay:I thought this was supposed to be RATIONALWiki. Bongolian (talk) 23:18, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Now hold on though. Since extraneous usage of profanity is irrational, the removal of such is rational! LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 23:19, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Oh, fuck! You mean I've been wasting all my time cursing… shit. Bongolian (talk) 23:22, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes, swearing is a waste of time. Besides, doing it often only desensitizes the point of doing it. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 23:24, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Christ on a crutch, I haven't even started and you're already trying to censor me. Take a look at the civility page. Yanking your chain appears to be more entertaining that yanking that other CP guy's chain. I hesitate to think what is on the other end though. Bongolian (talk) 23:30, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
LT, I am angry that you tried to cast my Fuck ancestors[3] down the memory hole with your censorship. Bongolian (talk) 07:47, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
"But I thought this was supposed to be RATIONALWiki!" Drink! Kiko4564 (talk) 08:28, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

WIGO elections[edit]

Look, I know you're used to CP and how you do things there. I get that. But you need to shape up if you're going to be a contributor to this site. Firstly, get over the swearing, people are going to swear. Secondly, no more attack WIGOs. We've mostly ended up writing the main WIGOs in a semi-neutral tone, barring egregious stupidity. Ok? Ok. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 11:42, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

You mean LiberalTears got banned from Conservapedia? Gunther1987 (talk) 15:03, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
I don't think I got banned from CP. The IP address I normally use when going on the site isn't blocked, and my account there isn't blocked currently. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 15:10, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
There was this edit, in addition, where you wrote some vague weasel-wordy "not liberal enough" headline, which echoes a poor quality right-wing source. I had to follow the link to try to understand what you meant. Anyway, if you think "it doesn't adequately address healthcare" is not "liberal enough", let the words speak for themselves. It might not have an effect on the target audience of RationalWiki, maybe, but certainly to your ideology it still sounds bad? Anyway, read your sources before you share and try to be helpful about summarizing what you read, not writing a opinion about it. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 18:23, 15 August 2020 (UTC)


Define this word for me please. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 21:01, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Having to do with reason. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 21:02, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Hmm, no reply yet. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 21:19, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
It would seem that your definition would include "being of a right of centre view". No? Scream!! (talk) 21:23, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Very good LT. Now explain how your edits to those articles made them more rational. And do include the metric. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:07, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Regarding this edit, I made it pretty clear in the edit summary; to restate, legal status and immigration has no direct relation to race and/or ethnicity. One can argue the term is xenophobic, but calling it "racist" doesn't make sense. And about this, it makes more sense to use Template:Pundits anyways, and calling Candace Owens a fascist is quite ridiculous. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 00:23, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Let's start with the first example. Could you provide evidence of the term being used pejoratively against European immigrants? Because I've literally only heard it used against Hispanics and Muslims. Who are stereotypically dark skinned... ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:29, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
While I don't focus much on that overall, I speculate that it could be because most illegal aliens (and even extremist Islamic terrorists) invade our country via the U.S./Mexico border, surprisingly enough. If you want to make this an issue over race and/or ethnicity, then go ahead. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 00:45, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
So, conspiracy theory aside, are you ceding and saying that the term is racist as well as xenophobic? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 01:03, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Spare me your "illegal aliens" and "invasion" coinage, please. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 01:12, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Factual terminology has complete disregard for political correctness and euphemisms. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 01:17, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Also, until some idiot troll vandalizing CP pages gets blocked, I won't immediately be replying to any more comments here. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 01:18, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────As @Spud said earlier (RationalWiki:Saloon_bar/Archive366#Help), "RationalWiki does not encourage or condone vandalizing Conservapedia." Unless, you have evidence that the person allegedly vandalizing CP is an active editor on RW, there is nothing we can do about it. Furthermore, vandalizing of RW is not justified by the alleged vandalization of CP. Bongolian (talk) 01:41, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

So was I technically vandalizing RW pages? I removed certain small details and information that obviously doesn't reflect on the name of this site. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 01:46, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
I didn't accuse you of vandalizing. You were however, edit warring and whitewashing (repeatedly removing categories that were justified by the text and citations within the pages). Bongolian (talk) 01:50, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
It's not "factual terminology", calling humans "illegal aliens" is a snarl word used to denote a population that has no documentation or expired documents. Calling them "undocumented immigrations" is more accurate. Again, miss me with your talk about political correctness, you just want to freely demean, dehumanize, and disparage a disadvantaged group without consequence. The sooner you see these people as human beings rather than a bunch of lazy exploitative thugs that disrespect borders, the world will be a slightly better place. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 03:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
LT, I still would like to see evidence of the term "anchor baby" being used to refer to "white" immigrants. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:28, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
I want to note that the term "alien" was applied originally to Jews in England, see: Aliens Act 1905Wikipedia (long title: "An Act to amend the Law with regard to Aliens."). It mirrors the 1290 Edict of expulsionWikipedia, also targeting Jews. In the United States, it was preceded by the 1798 Alien and Sedition ActsWikipedia ("An Act Concerning Aliens"). The term alien is meant to be dehumanizing, both historically and politically nowadays. — Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 15:46, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you[edit]

Sometimes I'm bored and I lurk on the internet. I'm sure you can understand, seeing as how you are an ACTUAL CONSERVAPEDIAN on this site (a real one, in the flesh, that is neither Ken or Rob! Outrageous) and that you yourself sometimes poke around, just to pass the time. I saw your signature about "Dataclarifier" and wondered what that meant, so I decided to google it. Some silly little jab at us North Korean communists, no doubt. A few clicks later I am reading Conservapedia (yeah, that's how bad it is in my neck of the woods on a Friday night). Click, click, click, one link to the next, when this pops up:

"My underlying point is that one doesn't need to agree with another on Scripture just to pray for them to be well. I get that you may think they "rejected" the Word of God, though isn't it possible to lead by example on the Christian principle of compassion and ask God to bless them with good health?"-Liberaltears

All this time I was reading your edits here, thinking you are a little weirdo troll with far too much time on your hands. And I still do, I still think you have thought patterns I will never be able to relate to, and I still think you are here to whip up nonsense and cause trouble because you are bored. But... it's a prayer? Your signature was a prayer? To an elderly man you encountered in some strange corner of the internet? A man who's mom is sick, in her 90's? And you don't even know who they really are, or what they are like in real life, but the moment you heard they might be unwell you wished good health for them and prayed for them?

I don't hate you. Do you understand? I find you annoying, but I don't hate you. I don't think you spend your time throwing rocks through people's windows, or stealing money from the poor and I don't think you have ten people buried in your backyard. I don't hate you, and I don't think you are a bad person. And I suddenly felt the need to tell you this LT because you will have no doubt encountered (and if you haven't yet you WILL encounter) all sorts of horrible shit that people who align with my worldview say to you. And they will see you as your views. You will cease being a human in their eyes (just as I'm sure I have ceased to be a human in certain conservative's eyes). And they will judge you before you even got the chance to say anything, just as you might judge them. But I want you to know that I don't hate you, and I think you are a HUMAN BEING, who just happens to disagree with me on, well, pretty much everything, probably. And I want you to remember that when you interact with people who are like the users of this website, foul mouthed sons of bitches who are left leaning sceptics. They are human too. You disagree with them, but they are not bad either. Your worth as a human, your life's intrinsic value, does not diminish, and neither does theirs.

Anyway, just wanted to say this (whatever THIS was. I don't know, I've been awake for the last 20 hours. Stop laughing). I don't know who Dataclarifier is pal, but I do hope all your friends are alright. I do hope that they know that you prayed for them, and thought about them, and that they are at peace. I'm gonna shut the f up now. Wish you the best. - Rairyu75 (Talk) 01:24, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

@Rairyu75 Oh, okay. Thanks! LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 01:33, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Misuse of the term "postmodernism" annoys me.[edit]

What it says on the tin. Learn philosophy. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:53, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

@GrammarCommie 3.14 months seems a little bit long. How do I get sysop abilities? After all, RobSmith got them here. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 03:57, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Learn what postmodernism is, what it advocates, and why your misuse of it is wrong and dumb, then demonstrate your knowledge to me. Or wait until either the timer runs out or someone feels pity for you. I am unlikely to give you Sysop. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 04:09, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
1) You get sysop by making enough substantive mainspace contributions to demonstrate some level of sanity. 2) Nobs was grandfathered-in and has learned to keep within his troll cage. We keep him around for entertainment. He is one of the 'old ones', and he is apparently moribund. 3) You're rather unlikely to get sysop. Bongolian (talk) 04:10, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
@Bongolian Oh, well that's a problem. I was thinking about potentially making a massive expansion to Draft:Susan Collins sometimes perhaps, but now I'll have to wait three months for that... LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 04:54, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Getting unblocked and becoming a sysop are different matters. GrammarCommie promised to unblock you if you can demonstrate that you're not an idiot. Have at it. Bongolian (talk) 05:00, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
@Bongolian Alright then. So here's a humorous (and sarcastic) demonstration of the great jenius I am: windmills cause cancer. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 05:12, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
More specifically, I want you to demonstrate that you know what Postmodernism is, what it advocates, and why using it as a standin for "leftism" or "Marxism" is wrong and dumb. A first year philosophy student could do this, so I have reasonable expectations. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 16:20, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

RobSmith, please see this message[edit]

@RobSmith Hi RobSmith, if you see this, please know that, while typing this message, I can't edit on CP. I logged in to the site as I normally do, but my username didn't show up in the top right corner almost as if I hadn't logged on. I clicked the back button to try doing it again, only to get this message:

Login error

Conservapedia uses cookies to log in users. You have cookies disabled. Please enable them and try again.

To enable cookies on Mozilla Firefox, go to Tools > Options... > Privacy tab > Make sure you tick the check box - "Accept cookies from sites".

To enable cookies on Microsoft Internet Explorer, go to Tools > Internet Options > Privacy tab > Move the slider to "medium high" to accept cookies from Conservapedia.

Do you have any idea what's going on? This type of issue has never occurred for me before, and it isn't the first time a site problem is halting me from editing. I'd really like to be able to contribute to CP. I just tried enabling cookies on my browser, and it didn't seem to work. Thank you! LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 18:12, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@LeftyGreenMario @Bongolian @GrammarCommie @Cosmikdebris @Sirius @Ace McWicked @Mercian Sorry for the inconvenience, but can any one of you please unblock RobSmith and ask him to reply here? Thank you! LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 23:09, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

How about you wait until Nobs decides to come and unblock himself and pay attention to your whinging. That's the inconvenience you have to live through for being a registered troll at a vandal site. Knight CommanderIn ServiceTo HerGoatness 23:16, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
LT: RW is not meant to be a second-tier CP for when Assfly is too fucked up to fix the CP server. Why don't you get Nob's email address from him and then you can exchange mash notes without bothering the rest of us. Bongolian (talk) 02:09, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
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This is not the trusworthy encyclopedia's technical support board! Please do not bother us with such trivialities. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 02:50, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
@Cosmikdebris This is actually very important, as I need to add constant updates on the 2020 elections on CP, not to mention finishing up listing all the lies spread by the "Lincoln Project", frequently catch up on left-wing violence in the Trump era (good thing there's the Gateway Pundit!), and that's not to mention that I'm very interested in expanding stubs on important historical figures in American politics, mainly the articles on Harry F. Byrd and Carl Vinson for now if I have additional time. Also, I'm pretty sure that without CP, there likely wouldn't have been RW (correct me if I'm wrong). LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 03:00, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

@LeftyGreenMario @Bongolian @GrammarCommie @Oxyaena @Cosmikdebris @Sirius @Ace McWicked @Mercian @RobSmith @Hastur @AMassiveGay @DuceMoosolini @Spud By the way, can any one of you unblock me? If I can't edit on CP, I may as well see if I can contribute anything meaningful here, such as for Draft:Susan Collins. I'll try to stay away from any of the WIGO pages. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 03:17, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

They might, I won't unless you demonstrate you know what postmodernism is. Seriously, it's really easy to do. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:24, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
@GrammarCommie So is it technically defined as a cultural movement arising out of criticisms of modernism? LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 03:33, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Correct. Now what does it advocate and why is it not compatible with Marxism? Again, this is very easy, and I'll unblock you if you answer these last questions. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:38, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

You want me to help? You want me to unblock Rob Smith so that well-known techno-genius can fix all your computer problems and you can carry on piling more right-wing shit on that right-wing shit pile Conservapedia? And you also want me to unblock so you can try to bring more Conservapedia-style shit to our pages and keep moaning about our lack of rationality and fucking swearing? Fuck off! I'll add my voice to those who've already told you to stop abusing this site by using it as a way of contacting Rob when Conservapedia is down. Find another way. You can't edit Conservapedia? Tough shit! You can't edit this evil atheist wiki? Tough shit! You'll just have to cry some conservative tears instead. Spud (talk) 04:10, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Good post!
cosmikdebris talk stalk 04:23, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
@Spud CP is among the best educational, encyclopedic, and reliable sources of truth and not a "s*** pile". LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 04:16, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Conservapedia is among the best educational, encyclopedic and reliable sources of truth? What a load of fucking bollocks! It's also a hate site with thousands of articles by that shit Ken DeMyer that do nothing but encourage and perpetuate homophobia and a place where your good friend Rob barely stays on the right side of going full on racist on a regular basis. As far as finding anyone who'll help you here goes, good luck, you're going to need it. Spud (talk) 04:50, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

@Spud If you want to make an actual argument, don't cite Media Bias Fact Check, since that site itself has left-wing bias. After all, who would've thought that Salon supposedly has "High" factual reporting despite their outrageous smears yet the Gateway Pundit is "Low"? About DeMyer, he doesn't seem to be that bad. Also, RobSmith is not a racist, despite how you may choose to interpret the content he works hard to put on CP. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 05:13, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
@Spud Also, that's not to mention that Media Bias Fact Check literally gave the "Lincoln Project" mostly a free pass, refusing to mention the group's most outrageous lies that I had partially covered here. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 05:17, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
I suggest, @LT, that you go jump into a pond for a while, and while you try to float in the water while fighting such horrible thoughts in your mind that sink you down into the dark depths of absurdity, that you contemplate whether or not your contributions to the trusworthy encyclopedia are worth spending any meaningful time on. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 04:21, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
@Cosmikdebris Might be better to avoid doing that because ponds aren't necessarily sanitary, which is a major concern now amidst the CCP pandemic, not to mention that the weather's getting colder, so catching a cold isn't ideal; also, most ponds aren't that deep. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 04:28, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
@LT Nobs has email activated on his account. Please use that instead of asking us to play the postman for your CP related problems. Techpriest (I am Alpharius! / Pencil.png / Tux icon.png / Shield.png) 10:20, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

On the other hand this talk page has motivated me to take a look at "The Lincoln Project". At first glance it seems they have some great anti-Trump stuff. So thanks for that.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 07:56, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Smith Coop[edit]

Different Smith. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 23:53, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Oh, my bad. I was unaware of how common a surname "Smith" is. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 23:59, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Rumor has it that the real Nobs was suicided a year ago almost to the day.[4] See: User talk:RobSmith#Suicided. You've likely been talking to a clever imposter, LT. Bongolian (talk) 00:19, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
I thought that RobSmith lived in New Mexico and not Maryland. Also, since he tends to be anti-Catholic, I don't think that he would want to have much to do with a Catholic church. Nice try Bongolian. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 01:42, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Like Dread Pyrate Roberts, each Rob Smith retires (or in the case of 2109, is retired by someone) and passes the baton onto a new Rob Smith. The pre-2020 Nobs was actually born Catholic, before converting to John 3:16ism evangelicalism so he up-and-did a 360° deathbed conversion — his head spun around just like Linda Blair in The fucking ExorcistWikipedia — just before he was croaked by the new Nobs. Smith? Yeah, we've seen quite a few copiesWikipedia of that internet daemon. Bongolian (talk) 02:05, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Excellent analysis, Bongolian! LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 02:24, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Great news![edit]

@LeftyGreenMario @Bongolian @GrammarCommie @Cosmikdebris @Sirius @Ace McWicked @Mercian @RobSmith @Hastur @AMassiveGay @DuceMoosolini @Spud Great news! It seems that despite CP logins not functioning properly, I can just create a temporary sock account there to edit for a few hours! LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 00:49, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

That's nice, why are you telling us? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 01:01, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
LT, The great news would be that you just fuck off and stop bothering us. Bongolian (talk) 01:03, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Congrats. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 01:03, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
How much effort did you go through just so you could edit an obscure third-rate wiki that is considered the laughingstock of the internet for a few hours?--Hastur! (talk) 01:16, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
So I got into contact with two other CP editors via email, and one of them suggested something that worked, allowing me to edit on CP, just not through my normal Liberaltears account. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 01:20, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Fuck off and stop pinging me. Oxyaena Harass 05:23, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Tell someone who gives a shit. Which ain't us. Spud (talk) 06:08, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
LT, I'll be honest and say; I GIVE ZERO FUCKS. Unless you want your next block to revoke your talkpage access, stop pinging me about this useless crap. Make a good effort appeal for your block, or don't ping me. Techpriest (I am Alpharius! / Pencil.png / Tux icon.png / Shield.png) 12:30, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


@LeftyGreenMario @Bongolian @GrammarCommie @Cosmikdebris @Sirius @Ace McWicked @Mercian @RobSmith @Hastur @AMassiveGay @DuceMoosolini @Spud Just curious, who exactly is Oliver Smith? LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 05:25, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

He is secretly destroying Conservapedia because he has nothing better to do. If you donate $1000 to RW, I'll tell you which is his account. You were wondering why the server is always fucked, right? It's Oliver Smith. Bongolian (talk) 05:30, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
@Bongolian @Bongolian @Bongolian @Bongolian @Bongolian And I'm now really curious, Bongolian, how do you know that for a fact? LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 05:31, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
@Bongolian @Bongolian @Bongolian @Bongolian @Bongolian Also, is Oliver Smith related to RobSmith in any way? LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 05:33, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Bongolian was joking. (There are unconfirmed reports that he has edited Conservapedia. If he did, he didn't make much of an impact on it.) You could have just read the Coop case page that you commented on. That would have given you some information. If you google "oliver d smith rationalwiki". you can really plunge down the rabbit hole, if you want to. I'll tell you this. He is not a nice person. And his many sworn online enemies (who include this guy, this guy, this guy and this guy) are mostly not nice people either. I wouldn't recommend joining forces with him or the unholy alliance that opposes him. Spud (talk) 06:00, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Smith is just a paranoid annoying dumbass who loves this wiki more than I do if you measure wiki love by how many accounts you made for the wiki. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 07:48, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


You come on here and say you are fair, do not ban for ideological reasons and spew your ideological bullshit. I do the same on CP and you block me for millennia. As I said, hypocrite.--Mercian (talk) 18:50, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

CP doesn't allow for meaningless trolling like your comment. On the other hand, that's already what happens on RW here because the inmates have been running the asylum. Is it no wonder that this site still cannot reach its fundraising goal? LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 18:59, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Bollocks. On CP you cannot say a bad word but are allowed to celebrate the death of kids killed by terrorists, gay people being stoned to death etc. You are a prick mate. A terrorist supporting pro gay execution prick. Need I go on?--Mercian (talk) 16:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
What gibberish are you spewing? LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 17:49, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
When Brunei announced stoning for gay people it was "A setback for the homosexual agenda". When Brunei reversed the law it was "A cave to the homosexual agenda." Ken described the victims of the Manchester Arena Bombing who were most kids or young adults in their late teens/early twenties as "Pro sodomite sluts and whores". The article on Breivik pays lip service to condemning him but as the victims were young liberals (Again Kids and young adults) it was not so bad an action after all. Its all there on CP. Now how the f%%K is that gibberish?--Mercian (talk) 20:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
PS. Ken wrote some crap a few years back about Atheism vs Islamists in Europe. After some "reasoning" he came down on the side of ISIS. Islamic terrorism is bad, Atheism is worse. Terrorist supporting. --Mercian (talk) 20:37, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
No, we do not support terrorists. You are employing a misrepresentation. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 20:54, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Breivik: The fewer young liberals in the world the better. Conservapedia: The fewer young liberals in the world the better. ISIS. Young people who go to pop concerts

are sodomites and deserve to die. Conservapedia:Young people who to to pop concerts are sodomites and deserve to die. Conservapedia without any misrepresentation support the aims of these people if not their methods and giving the recent far right ideas about dealing with BLM and Antifa (See Rick Wiles "Bama Bullets) I am not sure that you are against their methods also. I notice you do not even try to refute the first point. Getting stoned with weed is evil beyond belief, getting stoned with rocks is just everyday justice.--Mercian (talk) 21:52, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

More gibberish coming from you. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 22:09, 3 October 2020 (UTC)


You have been nominated for moderator. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 23:20, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 23:21, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
I object to this nomination on the grounds that LT is a lying hypocrite.--Mercian (talk) 03:33, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
@Mercian You have nothing to worry about this year. LT is ineligible to run due to his account not being old enough. Spud (talk) 04:04, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
@Mercian And I object to your objection of my nomination. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 05:48, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

WIGO elections 2[edit]

Maybe consolidate your entries--Hastur! (talk) 01:39, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Done! LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 02:10, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Maybe we'll just keep that in mind for the future, since they're being a little difficult about it rn. WIGOs, especially election WIGOs, are better for interesting or significant events. So "GOP retains control of Senate" and "Arizona flips Blue" are good examples of WIGOs. Listing every single senate race not so much--Hastur! (talk) 02:20, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Oh. LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 02:21, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
@LT @Hastur If you want to add the stories in a condensed format, fine. But do not revert or in any way change the vote templates. It horks all the templates down the line. There's an effing warning about this on the WIGO pages when you go to edit for fuck's sake! ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:26, 6 November 2020 (UTC)


I unblocked you to allow you to comment on the ongoing coop. Don't edit anything outside of the coop though, else someone will likely re-impose the block. --RWRW (talk) 01:14, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Okay, thank you RWRW! LTMay Dataclarifier be well! 01:17, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
You were told your unbanning was conditional on you only editing the Coop page. You have violated that by editing the WIGO CP talk page. I am blocking you for 3 days. Spud (talk) 00:10, 16 November 2020 (UTC)


I see you have discovered the futility of dealing with Ken in a cogent, rational and honest manner. Congrats! He'll never answer the point, he'll always be suddenly busy with a task and refuse to attend to his own failures. Now you understand how we feel in trying to have a rational discussion with you or Rob. AceModerator 07:24, 16 November 2020 (UTC)