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Tee hee

"Can't believe original author didn't know how to add proper refs" Who is the original author? That would be Ed. Lurker 14:05, 13 February 2008 (EST)

Suddenly WP is "okay" to ref

The cite was good, I wanted but refrained from changing the script going with it to something like: New Schalfly Tactic #462: Invent a term, throw together an article on newly invented term, bitch that WP "doesn't even have an article", go home, masturbate into sock, sleep. -_-CЯacke® 14:34, 13 February 2008 (EST)

He's BACK! Kinda.

As to the last sentence, we can only hope!

So he's not gone for good. Well, I guess we can say goodbye to that tiniest speck of sanity CP has ben displaying for the last couple months. DickTurpis 15:21, 13 February 2008 (EST)

And no sooner does Rob come back, but Conservative starts editing again. I'm beginning to think there's something to their rumoured relationship! --Kels 16:27, 13 February 2008 (EST)

It's obviously a lovely hate/hate relationship. Kirkburn 20:20, 13 February 2008 (EST)

Berkley

[1] claims Berkley did not apologize for formally calling the marines names.... However, sit down and read about what happened[2] and you will see:

“”The city manager had not yet prepared the letter and was awaiting the results of Tuesday's council meeting.

They never sent the letter. Just a minor point.

“”Council members conceded that they had erred in passing a resolution Jan. 29 that condemned the Marines - rather than the war in Iraq - and some council members added that they felt they owed U.S. troops an apology as well the many Berkeley residents who were ashamed and offended by their position. "To err is human but to really screw up it takes the Berkeley City Council," said council member Gordon Wozniak. "We failed our city. We embarrassed our city."

Sounds like an apology to me. Of course, Andy will never admit he was wrong (Berkley has more balls than Andy?) and fix the headline. --Shagie 17:27, 13 February 2008 (EST)

Popular Pages

Hehe. Something just tickles me about Unicorn and Cactus. -Smyth 17:38, 13 February 2008 (EST)

Strange articles, too.

29. Law Terms D ‎(174,019 views) tickles me. human 19:57, 13 February 2008 (EST)

Speaking of which, Agnostic Atheism Wager seems to be doing quite well lately (here). human 20:50, 13 February 2008 (EST)

Ah, Law Terms D. I need to go look at that page a couple hundred times. Sterile^xx 08:45, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Corporal Iduan

Iduan's block of 5 years for saying Time is a conservative magazine is really OTT. I think his lust for power has turned his head so that he has embraced their neo-Nazi principles with a vengeance. Whether he actually gets his promotion to Obersturmführer of course is another question. I can forsee much wailing and gnashing of teeth if someone else gets the nod ahead of him. Genghis ^Marauding 17:56, 13 February 2008 (EST)

I love the self-delusion of a five-year--as opposed to infinite--block, as if it makes a whit of difference to the blockee. Does the blocker think they're showing some sort of mercy, or does the CP crew believe that their site will be the Google/Facebook/YouTube of the Twenty-Teens, and remorseful former vandals will be waiting anxiously to jump back in the fray after a half-decade of penance? --WJThomas 18:43, 13 February 2008 (EST)

Someone once told me that infinite blocks can actually slip off the database and therefore effectively expire after a relatively short period. Whereas a five year-block will stay until the five years are up. I've no idea if this is true or not as there isn't enough long-term blocking on RW to really learn from but I do know that I was able to resurrect a sock which I thought had been given an infinte ban. In the life of a Wiki like CP, then 5-years is tantamount to infinite anyway. When a sysop blocks there is a drop-down list of available time periods which serve as sentencing guidelines but any value can be entered manually. At RW we have thirteen presets with the longest being 5 days. I've no idea what the defaults on CP are but it seems that the WaffenSS drones scroll straight down to the end. I guess they get a kick out of these really long blocks. During my editing career at CP once I got blocked for 2 months by DanH. To me, that 2 months might just have well been infinte as I never went back under that account again. I think this actually highlights a big difference in attitude between WP and them. Wikipedia generally issues blocks as a way to encourage rogue users to moderate their behaviour and only comes down heavy on the recalcitrants. I guess this reflects the Conservative attitude to dealing with criminals Short sentences are seen as liberal. For CP it's either life (5 years) or death (inifinte). Genghis ^Marauding 07:05, 14 February 2008 (EST)

The drop-down on the wiki-software is amendable they probably have FIVE year and Infinite as their choices doing a three day would require choosing "other" and manually typing in t-h-r-e-e d-a-y-s, much too hard to do for someone you're going to call a troll in the block summary. CЯacke® 20:34, 13 February 2008 (EST)

Is it just me or do I recall that Iduan used to be one of the more sensible editors over there? When did he become a sycophantic retard? Or are the rumors true that he's an RW sock making a hell-for-leather push to become an admin? DickTurpis 01:06, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Maybe he is a RW sock, but I didn't like the 5 year ban of CarolineMilton. Maybe she (?) was a troll, but 5 years for this is not fair. I liked her (?). Editor at CP^{Bring TK back} 05:23, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Yes, I liked Caroline but she was doomed from the start. Not only did she argue cogently with everyone on any subject but her 90/10 score must have been more like 99/1. Susan^Miouw 05:33, 14 February 2008 (EST)

From what I heard, Iduan is actually not a parody/sock, which makes his current behavior just plain sad. He seemingly took up the "Strike fast, strike hard!" mentality simply because he wants to keep the site clean or something.

About block lengths... my mole my inside source somebody told me that these are CP's current default options: "2 hours", "1 day", "3 days", "1 week", "2 weeks", "1 month", "3 months" "6 months", "5 years", "infinite"

Of course, the current defaults are more like "3 days, because I like you", "6 months, because of something minor yet annoying", and "5 years, for everything else". --Sid 08:22, 14 February 2008 (EST)

I'm not convinced. Iduan not being a sock may be contrary to conventional wisdom. DickTurpis 22:35, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Well, I'm not convinced, either, but that's what I had been told. So either I didn't have clearance to learn The Truth (quite possible since some people prefer deep cover), or we have a genuine fanboy here. --Sid 07:35, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Andy hasn't been paying his bills~

this Redirects to this. Fail. Barikada 18:26, 13 February 2008 (EST)

Well the .org certainly should redirect to cp.com. But AS.org is just parked, I suspect to protect it from us domain squatters and other ebil liberals. human 19:56, 13 February 2008 (EST)

So

Apparently if you do: http://rati<!-- -->onalwiki.com - it'll beat the spam filter on CP--83.170.102.67 20:55, 13 February 2008 (EST)

Indeed, we saw that... somewhat interesting. Don't know if any good (or new users) will come of it though. Uchiha^KATON! 21:03, 13 February 2008 (EST)

Bohdan posted a WIGO entry on CP's main page's talk page, pointing out that http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Allpages shows the words "oral sex" -- sorry, I don't wiki but i bet someone can fix this up for me -- I've posted before, I'm a huge fan.

The arrow thing's been known for a while; who's the one bombarding CP right now?-αmεσ (soldier) 23:12, 13 February 2008 (EST)

[3], here is a link to a screen shot of the allpages list. - Icewedge 23:32, 13 February 2008 (EST)

A flash of sanity?

Usually I get WTF moments for the utter bullshit but this comment by Andy in response to Crockoshite's latest wacko broken news suggestion struck me as entirely reasonable. Genghis ^Marauding 03:08, 14 February 2008 (EST)

So, don't be afraid of felons... just Muslims, gays, and Democrats? --Gulik 04:51, 14 February 2008 (EST)

It's probably more likely that Andy or someone in his family has a felony misdemeanor charge (or something) locked away in the closet. Andy would never say anything like that unless it were self-serving. I also recall that he opposed any mention that Obama had done drugs in his past being made in that otherwise deplorable article. I wonder why... Bondurant 05:42, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Given the latest developments, it was just that, a flash: see this advise, followed by this other and Andy's classic answer. Editor at CP^{Bring TK back} 05:53, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Interesting by the way, his new menace of blocking "for inadequate substance". 90/10 wasn't enough? Editor at CP^{Bring TK back} 05:54, 14 February 2008 (EST)

What the hell is a "felony misdemeanor"? DickTurpis 08:45, 14 February 2008 (EST)

It's a typo. Should have been felony or misdemeanor. I really should try to start waking up in the mornings :-) Bondurant 11:20, 14 February 2008 (EST)

The felonspy site is junk - searching any location gives you random results, and they don't seem to have a problem with placing people living in bodies of water... or being registered as living in a public park... maybe Andy should have come up with the legitimate reason to ignore the link, rather than a "cookies" excuse.Lardashe

Well, it has been pointed out on CP that the FelonSpy site is not real. Of course, you have to love Crockoshite's thinking and hoping that it was. However, my initial post here was to remark on Andy's call that everyone should be less scared of their neighbors and that not all felons are violent or dangerous. A sentiment that I go along with but one of which I hadn't actually seen much evidence for on CP and therefore stood out as being incongruous. Genghis ^Marauding 11:48, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Agreed. We're whipped into a frenzy of suspicion by the likes of the NRA........ hang on a goddamn MINUTE! Ajkgordon 16:35, 14 February 2008 (EST)

"A Wife"

Patricia says she is 'a wife' of Corky. How many wives does Corky got? DogP 16:45, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Wait wait. As funny as it would be if she had used the indefinite to describe her rel'n to Crocoite, she used it to refer to her rel'n to wives as a whole. See? Too bad. That would've been awesome. For more polygamous humor, see this.-αmεσ (soldier) 17:01, 14 February 2008 (EST)

If Crock hadn't welcomed her on the talk page I would have regarded it as a spoof. From a teacher we have ten sentences starting with "I" and one with "My". Genghis ^Marauding 18:25, 14 February 2008 (EST)

"I am a active member" ... "a wife to Crocoite which has been active" ... "I am also a active member" ... " My church calling is a Primary Teacher" ... "not as much as Crocoite is very conservative" ... and half of those sentences have grammatical errors in them. human 18:33, 14 February 2008 (EST)

She wanted to impress his Corky: "see how well I blend in?" Editor at CP^{Bring TK back} 18:41, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Ah yes, but no hoomskoolng, is great because. We learnses betterer that way, and our teechers are awesum. Godsped! DogP 19:25, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Day of Prurience

Say, this whole Day of Purity thing that CP proclaims on the main page got me thinking: If February 14th is declared a "Day of Purity", does that mean that the other 364 days of the year are... not days of purity? Hmmm. --AKjeldsen^Godspeed! 19:05, 14 February 2008 (EST)

365 if it's a leap year. Barikada 19:23, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Holidays with saints names in them are either purity or debauchery.... St. Patrick for example, is not a day of purity. All Saints Day is, if you are Catholic, otherwise its another day of debauchery (or recovering from said debauching). Other fun days include Mardi Gras (where you're supposed to debauch before giving it up for lent). How are you supposed to convert the heathens if every day is a day of purity, need to have some fun in there too. --Shagie 19:51, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Let's not forget the merchandizing ... Ungtss 20:02, 14 February 2008 (EST)

What? No chastity belts? -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 20:15, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Note also that the T-shirt and wristband together only cost $13. I find it tempting to imagine this is because their demand is so pathetic. -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 20:18, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Considering the goal of St. Valentine's day... surely it must be one of debauchery? human 20:35, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Valentine's Day at Liberal Atheist Wikipedia

Awesome section is awesome. P-P-P-P-P-POE BREAKER!!! Uchiha^KATON! 21:03, 14 February 2008 (EST)

At 18:18 teh ebil Wikipedia bowed down to teh assfly's pwning of tiher lib'rul decetez. [4] human 21:42, 14 February 2008 (EST)

The discussion contiues. Also: a shout out to our communist friend reading the page! Just be wary that Andy doesn't end up descending upon all the Valentine's posters to unleash his (love-themed) wrath - oh yeah, and RW references = instahammer, so tread lightly. Uchiha^KATON! 21:52, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Hey, no fair, I'm boycotting! Can you save it for a week? human 23:35, 15 February 2008 (EST)

NIU-pidity

"Those are private clubs and probably most are inactive or have at most a handful of members."

In a matter of hours after the news hits, teh assfly has analyzed and debunked 21 on-campus religious "student organizations" as irrelevant... only in the Schlafyverse! [5] human 21:33, 14 February 2008 (EST)

He's been getting called out on these sorts of things alot lately... which of course only provokes him to make even more inane and flimsy arguments. Uchiha^KATON! 21:43, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Man, I can positively smell the jizz running down Andy's leg right now. [6]. DickTurpis 22:08, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Someone should point out to Schlafly that almost all Catholic schools teach evolution. Jesus Christ, my father was raised Catholic, and went to private Catholic school his 1st to 11th grade, and they taught evolution. And this was in the sixties. -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 23:48, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Papists are delusional followers of the antiChrist. Godspeed. --Teh Assfly

Assfly---intellectchal jie-ant

As he once again shows he is teh idiotist. --PalMD^{-Did that sound a little harsh?} 22:16, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Followed, of course, by teh obligatory block.PFoster 23:03, 14 February 2008 (EST)

D'OH!!!--PalMD^{-Did that sound a little harsh?} 22:38, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Christ, that "RobertK" guy (if that is his real name) gave him a door a monster truck could drive through and he phailed to get it. As previously written, teh assfly is teh moron. Oh, and a twat. And a piss-head. But mostly, an affirmative action blogger. human 00:28, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Hey, don't talk about him like that.... Not only has he single handedly brought upon the earth the blessing of the demise of Wikipedia (RIP), he's finally giving a powerful voice to all the rich white offspring of rich white parents who hardly ever get a role in our national discussion... by the way, did anyone read Brent Bozell III's latest column? It's amazing really.... here's a link SirChuckB^{Please Excuse me, I have to go out and hunt giraffes} 01:04, 15 February 2008 (EST)

"[Hillary Clinton's] personal style of political warfare is ruthless, a bare-knuckles fight to the death. Ask Ken Starr." Wow. Just, wow. human 01:15, 15 February 2008 (EST)

That should be added to "according to"... human 01:17, 15 February 2008 (EST)

I spent the entirety of l'Affaire Lewinsky thinking of Hunter S. Thompson's line: "Lyndon B. Johnson qouls have had half of these people hanging from telephone poles just for making him look bad." He also wrote Fear and Loathing On the Campaign Trail '72 a very good book about that election, which, apparently, nobody in the running now has EVER read. They keep making the SAME MISTAKES OVER AND OVER AND oh forget it. --Gulik 03:34, 15 February 2008 (EST)

The sound of inevitability

As soon as I woke up this morning and read that there'd been another school shooting in the US, my very first thought was "I wonder how CP will blame this one on atheists..."

Well, of course, they found a way. It's not even novel WIGO worthy material any more, they're just getting lazy. I was hoping for something about how this guy shooting up a geology class was a direct result of the evil geology faculty teaching teh deceit about the Earth being a little more than 6000 years old.

The same hackneyed lines, the same tired defences of the indefensible when the latest crop of sane people attempt to point out that they're idiots. They may as well have just copied and pasted from the archives and saved the trouble. They're now so lazy they can't even be bothered to trot out the traditional pious "our prayers go out to the victims" bollocks. I think it's about time to close WIGO down for good, I think we constitute the vast majority of CP's traffic (well, us and everyone else laughing at them.) The joke has run its course, it's time to leave them to die. --Jeēv☭s^{Your signature gave me epilepsy...} 02:20, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Boycotttttt?

Do I hear a call for another BOYCOTT? I loves me a CP boycott, and it's been a while. I'll at least let a few other people chime in this time, last time I acted on someone else's urge I got whinged at :( human 02:25, 15 February 2008 (EST)

I like the idea. And whenever we boycott, they have another contest to try to perk things up.--PalMD^{-Did that sound a little harsh?} 03:14, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Normally I'd say yes, but with my competition just about to get underway and having my tongue so far up Andy's backside I can taste his toothpaste, I'd be a fool to go AWOL while on the brink of sysopship. But don't let that stop the rest of you. Genghis ^Marauding 04:02, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Discuss on IRC this evening (EST)? Susan^Miouw 04:16, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Genghis, boycotts aren't mandatory. We only ask that people save their wigos until it's over, and of course, if possible, "try" to refrain from going there. Myself, I usually pull it off, especially with wigo locked. People who have invested time & energy in "characters" are not expected to wreck them just so the rest of us can play hide & seek with CP. Oh, and I bumped the "new boycott" thread at the forum under CP. human 12:25, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Say 8 PM EST? Just a suggestion. I've been getting angry at CP lately, so a boycott would help dispel these feelings. Perhaps. --Hoji^die! 12:26, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Exact same feelings: Andy, Crocoite and PJR aren't even funny anymore (last couple of days). Therefore I support the boycott and announce it here, being too lazy to sign up in the Forums. Editor at CP^{Bring TK back} 13:14, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Yes, same here. The Lulz are more of the "Right, whatever" sort right now. Crocoite being a complete dick was amusing at first, but then it just became sad. And without PJR's Guard Dog maiming people, things are really just the same old, same old. --Sid 13:20, 15 February 2008 (EST)

I'm glad the boycotts aren't mandatory as I've been stockpiling articles and temps. I really mean to nail it this time. Genghis ^Marauding 15:06, 15 February 2008 (EST)

I don't think so, but what if Contest5 (?) starts during the boycott? Editor at CP^{Bring TK back} 15:10, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Well, it's Friday and they haven't started picking teams yet, right? In which case it's probably not going to start until the 'cott is over anyway. human 15:13, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Let's have a redlink destruction drive during the boycott. Sterile^xx 16:06, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Hmmm, that can be overdone easily by overeager link-deleters... how abouts instead we have a stub-making and destubbing drive? Of course, all three are compatible... human 16:11, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Hmm, didn't see anything about a boycott until after I stuck in a WIGO entry - should I delete or leave it? Zmidponk 16:36, 15 February 2008 (EST)

No, that's fine. It won't start for a few hours, and when it does WIGO will be edited to ask people to hold their postings (we know not everyone stays away!) until after it's over. human 16:43, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Ah, cool. That's good, I just thought it was classic that the fundamentalist Christian person that PJR is gets corrected on what a Bible passage is about by an agnostic. :D Zmidponk 16:47, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Teh boycott is not "mandatory" per se, but violations will be punished by shunning, and removal of goat.--PalMD^{-Did that sound a little harsh?} 16:55, 15 February 2008 (EST)

OK. I threw the switches, and the tracks to Conservapiddlia now lead to other aspects of your lives!

Bwuahaahahahha!!! human 21:08, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Andy's selective referencing

Funny how he references this website, which only a few lines down expresses these opinions

• They are a major cause of death: 30 countries in the UN study reported more than 200,000 deaths per year in murder, accidents and suicide. Many are preventable.
• The cost among children and youth is particularly high.
• Firearms are used in crime. Firearms theft fuels other crimes.
• Firearms increase the lethality of suicide attempts.
• Guns figure prominently in the cycle of violence against women.
• Small arms, including firearms, account for as many as 90% of the deaths in armed conflict.
• A groowing number of victims are children, both as combatants and victims.
• The unrestrained proliferation of firearms undermines peacebuilding, governance and civil society.

(wish I wasn't such a wiki-noob and knew how to do a proper list)Bondurant 06:40, 15 February 2008 (EST)

I helped you with the list. :) General rules: "*" at the beginning of a line creates a list item like the one above, and a "#" at the beginning of a line creates a numbered list item. Not sure if we got a help page for lists... if not, I'll do a quick write-up later today... --Sid 07:52, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Thanks, Sid, you're a star.

(re lists) Susan^Miouw 09:54, 15 February 2008 (EST)

I must be in strange mood today, as I am close to writing a full-on rant about Andy's obsession about gun control in the UK. Must... not... llllettt... him... getttt... to mmmeee... Bondurant 08:28, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Oh yes, I remember the good old days when all hip young British chicks used to pack Saturday-night specials in their handbags. Never had much trouble with rapists then! Genghis ^Marauding 09:41, 15 February 2008 (EST)

What's a Saturday-night special? I'm thinking of something that comes in three varieties: Flavoured, Ribbed, or .44 with a right-hand twist. Bondurant 09:49, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Maybe .44, .36 or .25 (so I'm led to believe). Genghis ^Marauding 11:19, 15 February 2008 (EST)

BD must be some sort of brit. A saturday night special is a small-caliber, often snub-nosed pistol that can be easily concealed.--PalMD^{-Did that sound a little harsh?} 11:22, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Purchased inexpensivley at the last minute from a pawn shop for a Saturday night mugging. PoorEd 12:04, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Not just cheap, but also crappy. GrandSoviet 12:42, 15 February 2008 (EST)

For supposed liberals, you people know way too much about guns. -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 13:00, 15 February 2008 (EST)

<-- Thanks. I even know what a NATO round is, and what a carbine is. Mr. Saturday Night Special is also a kick ass song from a band (southern rock) that you might expect to be pro-gun. Maybe one of them has a dead friend... human 13:22, 15 February 2008 (EST)

I was given my first gun at the age of ten. Never went hunting but always enjoyed target shooting and plincking. Find the NRA abhorrent. Am in favor of gun control, particularly in urban areas. Those of us living in more rural areas require some defense against grizzlies, wolves and YECers:) PoorEd 13:24, 15 February 2008 (EST)

I had thoughts of picking up a plinker (nice 30-06 or sumthin') and playing at target practice out in my swamp. Trouble is, the ideal "backstop" I have (a twenty foot or so high embankment) would have me shooting "towards" the road. One miss would spoil the whole party :(. So I didn't. I also considered mounting a .50 or .60 cannon on my roof so I could control my intersection (I'm on a nice little hill) in times of "civil difficulty". But that plan was for naught, also. However, one of our local buddies is really into building "potato cannons", and on my first try I only missed my 18" wide cupola by a foot or two from 150 feet. He hit it. Twice. human 13:47, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Real men build trebuchets. :nods: --AKjeldsen^Godspeed! 15:05, 15 February 2008 (EST)

During the boycott you might like to amooz yourself with this. Kenservative 05:11, 16 February 2008 (EST)

It's morbidly fascinating, like watching a wreck in a NASCAR race in slow motion. PoorEd 15:07, 15 February 2008 (EST)

And deny us the sick pleasure of watching this slow motion crack-up? No way! PoorEd 15:11, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Liberal Logic, Schlafly style.

Ask and ye shall receive.

Liberal logic is an argument that has logical appeal to a liberal, but is nonsensical. I am somehow unsurprised to find that Andy doesn't understand what the difference is between emotions and logic. (Also, guns are NOT defensive. A bulletproof vest is defensive. Handguns are good for one thing only in a fight--making the other guy get dead first.) --Gulik 13:42, 15 February 2008 (EST)

This kind of extreme statement by Andy can only work against his desire to brainwash all those poor little homeschoolers, as even brainwashed teenagers can see through that kind of "logic". At the very least, it will pique their curiousity and lead them to investigate further these odd liberals. PoorEd 13:49, 15 February 2008 (EST)

I'm telling you, the guy is just losing it. I picture him in his PJ's (barf break, sorry), late at night, pecking away at the keyboard, while his wife wonders why he never got a real job.162.82.215.199 13:53, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Andy clearly doesn't understand what rhetoric is. Rhetoric is rhetoric, regardless of the arguer's ideology. There may be good rhetoric and bad rhetoric, but not "liberal rhetoric" and "conservative rhetoric". I find these poor arguing skills astonishing coming from a lawyer. -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 13:56, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Next thing you know, Andy will be talking about "liberal nuclear physics" and "conservative nuclear physics". -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 13:56, 15 February 2008 (EST)

As you know, Einstein and other Jews liberals have tried to make "relativity" part of the very fabric of nature, and thereby have attempted Deicide. Godspeed. ^{— Unsigned, by: 162.82.215.199 / talk / contribs}

Well, he already has "Liberal Science" (Darwin, Relativity, and other Jesus-destroying LIES fnord), and "Conservative Science" (Creationism, Anti-Vaccination, ad nauseam). --Gulik 14:30, 15 February 2008 (EST)

And "Liberal Mathematics" (Complex numbers, Axiom of Choice, all those Jews who aren't as smart as devoutly Christian Bernhard Riemann ...) Gauss 13:13, 19 February 2008 (EST)

Man, he's getting ever more incoherent with this "articles"... Some of the points, well, I can't find words.

“”that lack of government programs to rehabilitate criminals must not reduce crime

Isn't that self-evident? We have a binary choice, government programs to reduce crime or not government programs to reduce crime. Unless he's arguing that the programs actually have the inverse effect and cause crime, then the lack of such programs can't help but not reduce crime... I can't even begin to see what point he's trying to make here. Liberal logic? At this point, he ought to at least try some sort of logic. --Jeēv☭s^{Your signature gave me epilepsy...} 14:26, 15 February 2008 (EST) NOTE: That particular edit wasn't one of Aschlafly's but a now blocked user.--CЯacke®

Well, of course he would be against spending his tax money of rehab for criminals. But I gave up even trying to parse that sentence to figure out if it meant what I'm sure he meant! human 14:37, 15 February 2008 (EST)

You know what he means you meant. PoorEd 14:40, 15 February 2008 (EST)

I really get the feeling he's becoming fairly seriously unhinged, if he wasn't already. The liberal logic article reads like he wrote it drunk, and then there's his whole shtick about how rape increased drastically in the UK in the 90s due to "increased gun control"... Now as a citizen of the UK, I can tell you that nobody in the 80s or 90s, or indeed any time since Liz took to the throne has walked around armed. To say that more people are being raped because of "gun control" in the 90s is a completely insane conclusion. Criminals weren't in fear of being shot either before or after Dunblane. I think the poor bastard has increasing delusions of persecution by "liberals", and he in desperate need of medical intervention. --Jeēv☭s^{Your signature gave me epilepsy...} 14:55, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Count me out. My schedule is, er, full. User:PalMD

Hey this is deceit. You edit-conflicted me and my edit was more or less: "call PalMD! Hippocrates oath and the like!". Editor at CP^{Bring TK back} 15:00, 15 February 2008 (EST)

But I agree with Jeeves, he IS deteriorating. Editor at CP^{Bring TK back} 15:00, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Dude, can't you call your colleagues in the evil liberal metropolis of NY, NY and have him (what's the US equivalent of sectioned?) by the the evil liberal mental health establishment and locked up in evil liberal Bellevue for the protection of himself and the evil liberal public at large? --Jeēv☭s^{Your signature gave me epilepsy...} 15:10, 15 February 2008 (EST)

And deny us the sick pleasure of watching this slow motion crack-up? No way! PoorEd 15:11, 15 February 2008 (EST)

It's really, really hard to commit people, even to a 72 hr hold. Not that i'd know.162.82.215.199 15:16, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Ya' know...A few evenings ago I was watching one o' them reality law enforcement shows on the boob tube, and pretty much the whole show was dealing with one drunk after another. The cops were trying to be kind and reasonable and patient and logical, but the miscreants were angry, irrational, delusional, mean, paranoid, picking fights, and so forth. And I couldn't help but think, "Man, that's like dealing with Andy on CP...". That'd also exlplain the typos. For the weekend, I'm considering getting liquored up on cheap booze, then logging on to CP to see if reading it makes more sense that way, too.--WJThomas 16:50, 15 February 2008 (EST)

If you want to coordinate that activity let me know...i'll bring the scotch.--PalMD^{-Did that sound a little harsh?} 16:52, 15 February 2008 (EST)

I dunno...Scotch sounds a little too classy for CP reading--I was thinking Thunderbird, MadDog, maybe some Colt45. And I should note that I'm down near Toledo, so your notion is workable. If you happen to have a laptop with a wireless card, we could meet at a rest stop midway between us, get plastered, read CP, and then cruise the restrooms for errant Catholic priests. Just your typical liberal Saturday night, donchaknow.--WJThomas 18:16, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Well, I was going to say that I've tried this hypothesis and it doesn't work (CP still phail even when I can't walk). But maybe you're right, the problem is using booze that is too classy. human 13:56, 19 February 2008 (EST)

OK that's it you liberal scum. Withdrawal of all goat privileges until after the boycott. You never learn do you? Genghis ^Marauding 16:59, 15 February 2008 (EST)

I couldn't resist! Update: Jallen - NoSensaUmour. Tough on ridicule, weak on the causes of ridicule... --Jeēv☭s^{Your signature gave me epilepsy...} 18:54, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Human and Jeeves, you both win at life for creating the LolAndy in this section and for converting it to ASCII! :D Although I officially do not endorse wandalising CP. --Sid 19:59, 15 February 2008 (EST)

That's Lolcandy, but thank you: bows and falls over. Thank you Jeeves! human 22:48, 15 February 2008 (EST)

For Ed - refrences

From http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ronald_Wilson_Reagan&diff=next&oldid=388448 Reagan's use of force at Berkley (via your friend and mine 'google')

• http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/06/08_reagan.shtml
• http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/2004/jun/07/relationship-with-uc-full-of-c/
• http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2002/06/09/MNCFINTRO.DTL
• http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/pacificaviet/ (lots of bits in there, just search for Reagan - January-June 1970 has a very sour remark)

Update: Ed just removes the text instead [7] --Shagie 17:12, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Sorry I missed the boycott notice

I'll stop now-αmεσ (soldier) 21:54, 15 February 2008 (EST)

I missed it too

Wait, I posted it! Nevermind... human 00:34, 16 February 2008 (EST)

I wanted to check the newest WIGO items before switching to Boycott Mode... but Andy had to ruin even that by deleting his entire talk page, including the entire history. Burn, evidence! Burn! Bah. What a way to start the boycott. --Sid 07:36, 16 February 2008 (EST)

I think Andy likes to tease us when we do our little boycotts by doing truly wigo-worthy things. Or at least, he likes to tease good ole 3050. human 11:12, 16 February 2008 (EST)

Agreed - I mean, he adds his own statement with a fact tag (I thought he didn't like fact tags - and wait, the statement is defending FRANCE?! [8]) AND he calls for a quickie contest so none of his copying can be put here.--66.212.24.96 20:57, 16 February 2008 (EST)

I'll hopefully remember to check the link in a week or so. human 21:06, 16 February 2008 (EST)

contests and breaking news

Once this boycott is over, might someone with more wiki-distillation skills than what I possess look at the number of edits to Template:Mainpageright and correlate that to contest periods? Likewise, the 'owned pages' and 'obsessed pages' (kind of like Ken and teh gays) for Cronkie and Mainpageright? Might be interesting. --Shagie 14:29, 19 February 2008 (EST)

Locking the page

I object, just on a matter of principle (and because the boycott has left me with nothing to do, so I have extra time to whine about trivialities), to the locking of the page. I support, and am abiding by, the boycott. (But it's tough!) We should use an honor system. Locking of pages is for Conservawhatchamacallit. Gauss 20:11, 20 February 2008 (EST)

I agree. It prevents me from adding on snark to some of the dumb entries. They are just sitting there, begging me. Lurker 22:19, 20 February 2008 (EST)

Wow, someone locked it? Oh well, you'll get over it. It's supposed to stay cold during the boycott -- that much, we enforce on ourselves. You'll just have to save or remember your "corrections" until Friday evening. Is that so hard? human 00:14, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Well, since WiGO's really the only page I read anyway... yes, yes it is. Lurker 02:07, 21 February 2008 (EST)

So our boycott also starves you of your lame diet? So be it. Clue: If you're bored, Cp also has a "recent changes" page. Knock yourself out. human 02:12, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Thanks. I hadn't realized that until now. Lurker 02:15, 21 February 2008 (EST)

I was reading Recent Changes, saw that there was a discussion going on here, and was going to ask if the WIGO Talk page is locked too. How dumb can one be?!? ^{— Unsigned, by: Editor at CP / talk / contribs}

Thanks, RA, for exposing me! No, really, I just forgot to sign... Editor at RW^{Schumi on Ducati?} 05:21, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Gauss, there is an honor system in operation here. The page is only locked for those who are dishonorable. ;) Genghis ^Marauding 03:56, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Oh. I guess that explains why, whenever I look at you or the other sysops, you're not wearing any clothes. Gauss 12:55, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Where did that come from? I'll have you know I am fully clothed. Various other users may be naked, but I most assuredly am not. If I were, I never could have gotten on the bus. Also, it's too cold in the morning. -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 13:01, 21 February 2008 (EST)

OMG! I didn't realise I'd left my webcam on. Genghis ^Marauding 13:34, 21 February 2008 (EST)

o_O Uh, ew. -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 13:38, 21 February 2008 (EST)

I like how you call the boycott informal, voluntary and non-binding, yet lock the page. Sounds like something Andy would do. Lurker 13:44, 21 February 2008 (EST)

I can unlock it if you want, though the price be crossing Genghis. -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 13:54, 21 February 2008 (EST)

The boycott as RW "policy" is informal and voluntary in the sense that it is (obviously) non-binding on editors. However, RW the website participates by letting WIGO lie fallow during the boycott. Unlike CP, it is not locked to prevent POVs - and we all know pretty much exactly when it will be unlocked -- whenever the first sysop in early time zones decides it's close enough to 8 PM tomorrow (Friday). human 14:02, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Said "policy" only started the last boycott when I arbitrarily locked WIGO. I did so then to remind myself of the boycott (if it helped others I know not). A side note: if the wiki is participating in a boycott it stands to reason that WIGO won't be edited, locking it ensures this. No-one is going to miss anything important; PJR's fiery retort and subsequent resignation via "Parthian shot" will (probably) still be there come 3pm EST (8pm GMT) tomorrow. CЯacke® 14:27, 21 February 2008 (EST)

WHAAAA? Where? Ajkgordon 14:36, 21 February 2008 (EST)

You LOOKED!CЯacke® 14:51, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Goddamn CRACKER! No, wait... Ajkgordon 14:52, 21 February 2008 (EST)

The spurious "Sounds like something Andy would do" line of argument comes straight out of TK's arsenal. (I am fully aware of the irony of that statement). Personally I can't wait to see if Andy got pwned again in the competition but I'll just have to bide my time. Genghis ^Marauding 14:41, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Doesn't make it wrong. Lurker 14:42, 21 February 2008 (EST)

It does if it's nothing like Andy in the first place. Genghis ^Marauding 14:49, 21 February 2008 (EST)

No it doesn't. If Andy wouldn't do it in the first place then it is independantly something TK would say and an incorrect sentence, but it is not an incorrect sentence because it's something TK would say. Not that I believe Andy wouldn't arbitrarily create a rule or arbitrarily block a page and then pretend like it was policy all along. Lurker 14:58, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Try and comprehend what's being written Lurker. The locking of the WIGO page is nothing like Andy because it is not open ended, it is only for the duration of the boycott (the lock actually auto-expires after the seven days are up), and once it's unlocked again stuff won't be censored just because we don't like it. Andy certainly would lock stuff and then forget about it and would definitely censor something that he didn't like. The point about it being a TK-like statement is that it was a typical tactic of his to twist things round and then say you're just as bad. Genghis ^Marauding 16:40, 21 February 2008 (EST)

We will soon be able to pull up the "Cracker spike" on CPs stats.-- PalMD ^{--You don't know harsh!} 14:54, 21 February 2008 (EST)

I did look. I even contributed. Punish me. Punish me good. (But I didn't post on WIGO which is what I though teh boy cot was all about TBH. Ajkgordon 15:00, 21 February 2008 (EST)

There is a certain joy in creating a lively reaction with a comment. Actually, that is my primary motive for being on this wiki. Like TK, minus the evil. -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 15:33, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Minus the evil? Where's the fun in that? Ajkgordon 16:42, 21 February 2008 (EST)

The fun is in not getting banned. -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 17:32, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Look at the post in this set with the least amount of colons. That would be mine, thank you very much :) Lurker 17:37, 21 February 2008 (EST)

And what is your point? It's all over in less than 24 hours, and you can feel free to spooge all over people's wigo entries then! For now, buwahahahahaha, you are locked out of editing all pages on RW except... this one, and my sig file. human 20:16, 21 February 2008 (EST)

My point was that you (plural you) blocked the page like a good little dictator to enforce your voluntary boycott. It's actually pretty clear. And I can still edit. And there is something really awesome going on at CP that will probably be dissapeared in 24 hours. Enjoy :) Lurker 01:57, 22 February 2008 (EST)

PS It also wasn't my point to start with. Lurker 01:58, 22 February 2008 (EST)

The page lock does nothing to enforce the boycott Lurker. I'll bet that you have spent a lot of time there despite the WIGO page being locked. Think of it as putting the cookie jar on a high shelf, when you are on a diet. It just moves the temptation out of the way for a little while. Genghis ^Marauding 02:46, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Actually, it's more like having someone else put it on a high shelf, against your will, when you aren't on a diet. And why would I not edit at CP? I never agreed to any boycott and I've made it pretty clear that I'm not exactly one of the gang here. 02:57, 22 February 2008 (EST)^{— Unsigned, by: Lurker / talk / contribs}

So you have no rights to put your hand in the cookie jar! Genghis ^Marauding 14:25, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Hey, folks! Please, please, please! I never intended for this to get ugly. I think we can all survive for a little while longer. And it will make us stronger.

BTW, my comment about not seeing sysops' clothes was a reference to the story of "The Emperor's New Clothes:

• If you are ignorant, you can't see the Emperor's clothes.
• If you are not honorable, you can't see the edit button.
• If you are a batshit insane reactionary fundy lunatic, you can't see what a huge steaming bowl of shit CP is.

Gauss 11:45, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Forget the boycott, look NOW

Seriously. I'm not kidding. MexMax went Samwell or Richard (depending who you like better). You want to glance at the block log and talk pages before they are lost to deletions. --Shagie 02:55, 22 February 2008 (EST)

How many consultants do we know? It couldn't be him, could it? Lurker 02:58, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Could be. Those who have checkuser access could probably do a better job of verifying that relationship (a new set of IP blocks). However, given the block comments... just seems odd if that was the case. --Shagie 03:03, 22 February 2008 (EST)

well! that was nice while it lasted Wonder who he is? Susan^Purrrrr 03:33, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Given by his edit on Andy's talk page,[9] we should find out soon. --Shagie 03:56, 22 February 2008 (EST)

I'll have alook @ the forum. Susan^Purrrrr 04:07, 22 February 2008 (EST)

(undent)
Just for safety's sake, I've collected it at: User talk:SusanG/MexMaX. Susan^Purrrrr 04:43, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Who is this him? 124.183.160.127 05:07, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Hmm. - might be a her - apologies for unwarranted assumption. Susan^Purrrrr 05:12, 22 February 2008 (EST)

He/her/it/they whatever, what have I missed? 124.183.160.127 05:14, 22 February 2008 (EST)

See User talk:SusanG/MexMaX. Susan^Purrrrr 05:19, 22 February 2008 (EST)

I've moved it to (AmesG has quite rightly re-moved it) it's now at: Conservapedia:MexMax) Susan^Purrrrr 07:22, 22 February 2008 (EST)

.*chuckle* "02:46, 22 February 2008 HelpJazz (Talk | contribs) blocked "TK (contribs)" with an expiry time of 5 years" NightFlare^{Speak, mortal} 09:27, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Yeah, I saw that and it made me smile too! Genghis ^Marauding 09:44, 22 February 2008 (EST)

When the boycott ends

Could someone please be kind enough to send me an e-mail telling me I need to do the "magic" behind this page like right then....or something. tmtoulouse ^frustrate 11:11, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Done. What "magic"? human 13:43, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Since the WIGO voting listy thing is already up to 237 he needs to reset the damn thing because it busts @ 255 or something. CЯacke® 14:13, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Contest 5

People who kept track (or do the reverse research) should feel free to improve conservapedia:Team Contest five with juicy details (please). human 14:27, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Andy got pwned (again) and they're quibbling over the points (again). Same shit as last time! ^{— Unsigned, by: Genghis Khant / talk / contribs}

So I saw. Also, this contest was very different, with the whole "ball swapping" aspect - and, what, only three people on each team? I found it odd that after all his efforts to reduce strife and improve the contests, Iduan proposed raising the grand prize awesome improved masterpiece award from 100 to 400 points. Of course, I award myself whatever points I feel like I need for my awesome improvements to RW, so I can't really talk poop. human 15:56, 22 February 2008 (EST)

I myself use the Frequent Editor Miles program. I almost have enough to go downtown now. -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 16:06, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Heh! "and, what, only three people on each team?" enquired Human.
There's not more than 6 guaranteed to be:

a) So trivial as to bother;

b) Guaranteed not to be blocked before the end;

c) The owner of a calculator powerful enough to cope with the scoring system.

Susan^Purrrrr 17:17, 22 February 2008 (EST)

extremist traits

You might want to remove this one. Your site displays far more of these traits than cp. Bohdan2 16:14, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Actually, I believe someone is working on a referenced article that shows CP exhibiting all those traits. You might want to go to RWW and start a similar analysis of RW there? human 16:21, 22 February 2008 (EST)

RWW? Bohdan2 16:22, 22 February 2008 (EST)

http://editthis.info/rationalwikiwki/ --Linus^{(plot evil tech)} 16:24, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Family rows

Its sad when brothers fall out. Susan^Purrrrr 17:05, 22 February 2008 (EST)

That's conservative family values for you. PoorEd 17:39, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Roger and Andy have beating each other off up since grade school. It's true! human 22:16, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Somebody with a deeper understanding of Andy's mind...

...please explain. I don't understand what they is referring to. NightFlare^{Speak, mortal} 22:05, 22 February 2008 (EST)

They is retarded, is all. Not congenitally, they absorbed it at their mother's bitter, caustic, dried up teats. human 22:11, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Ah, "they." Rodney - aka me - changed a "he" to a "he or she" and Assfly added something to the Liberal Logic article - or one of those other abominations (I can never keep them straight) - and wrote an article about how the word "they" as an gender-indeterminate pronoun is a liberal attempt to subvert the nation's youth....PFoster 22:26, 22 February 2008 (EST)

In Andy's world, everything that irritates him is a liberal attempt to to subvert the nation's youth, be it evolution or improper grammar or that burning sensation when he urinates...--WJThomas 22:49, 22 February 2008 (EST)

I must say, I am honored to be responsible for making ASchlafly hurt when he pees. -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 22:51, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Sorry, I think might have been Cracker. human 23:46, 22 February 2008 (EST)

From a purely linguistic standpoint, it's not surprising that they's meaning has changed over the years. There certainly has been no "movement". It's not in the Liberal-feminist-lesbian gang handbook.-- -PalMD ^{--4 out of 5 doctors recommend RW for gas pain} 22:54, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Wait, so what the hell are we supposed to use when we don't know the gender of someone? ^{— Unsigned, by: Barikada / talk / contribs}

Your tongue. They taste different from they. human 23:47, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Resort to using cold, dehumanizing "it". -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 23:02, 22 February 2008 (EST)

The default, apparently, is "he." Good girls who know their place shouldn't mind. PFoster 23:03, 22 February 2008 (EST)

We can always use my favorite: "said person". As in "If you see said person, tell said person..." -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 23:04, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Heh. Yeah, at CP you're male until proven otherwise. Barikada 23:21, 22 February 2008 (EST)

I see Susan has made edits to the article. It's good to see that he's making an effort to clear up what Andy's trying to say. It's a good thing Susan is around, he's always available to help Andy with his efforts. See, using He makes things so much easier. Stile4aly 00:49, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Susan is one of my favorite men on RW. He does a great job of putting together help files. But, he does rejoice in stalking me as a side-side-side-hobby. I wonder, when he will ever ask me for the a date? He certainly delights in yanking my chain. human 00:57, 23 February 2008 (EST)

I think susan is a pretty cool guy. eh vandaliezes cp and doesnt afraid of anything GrandSoviet 10:05, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Hmm... *squints suspiciously at the above comment* Uchiha^KATON! 14:21, 23 February 2008 (EST)

"When someone wants to edit, they should create an account", apropos of nothing at all, just thought we could use a grammatically correct example here. Does anyone know for how many centuries this usage has been valid? Is it in the KJV? human 16:49, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Would you all stop taking my name in vain! Susan^Purrrrr 16:51, 23 February 2008 (EST)

CP featured article

Has any one noticed how long the CP featured article is? 6 lines long.....( +/- for browser width). - Icewedge 23:32, 22 February 2008 (EST)

At least this external link is interesting. NightFlare^{Speak, mortal} 23:38, 22 February 2008 (EST)

That's just weird. Hi Ice! human 23:43, 22 February 2008 (EST)

I wonder which genius decided they needed to showcase their "concise"-ness. Hi Human! - Icewedge 00:00, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Hi Ice! And the word is "concision", just so you know. Of course, "concise"-ness is a bit more amusing in the context. --Linus^{(plot evil tech)} 14:18, 23 February 2008 (EST)

The diet of lions

Not sure if I'm reading too much into it, but my interpretation of [10] is a reference to Roman values and ancient gladiatorial persecution of christians. The drugs, the debauchery, the drinking, the decadence... all the 'D's where there, just the city's name started with 'R' instead. The life style of the rich and famous have been around much longer than Hollywood has. --Shagie 02:20, 23 February 2008 (EST)

The ref was to Harold Davidson, the rector of Stiffkey, who was eaten (or at any rate mauled to death) by a lion - as to the Roman aspects, who knows what was going on in the author's subconscious? Certainly you're right about sleb lifestyles. Schlafly continues to make an even bigger arse of himself by his implication that none of this went on prior to the invention of motion pictures. Fretfulporpentine 03:57, 23 February 2008 (EST)

FAQ, but no answers of any value

http://www.conservapedia.com/HPV_vaccine_FAQ

"Adults no enough to refuse the vaccine." I had to reread this sentence no less than five times before I realized that it was simply a misspelling of "know." Very kindergarten-ish mistake. GrandSoviet 10:13, 23 February 2008 (EST)

And the worst piece of pseudo-scientific claptrap i've seen in a while.-- -PalMD ^{--4 out of 5 doctors recommend RW for gas pain} 12:21, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Good to see Iduan reads WIGO as well. No wonder they were desperate for the boycott to end. Genghis ^Marauding 14:50, 23 February 2008 (EST)

HPV vaccine FAQ rebuttal have at it! human 14:53, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Bible -> Computer game?

Do the younger Conservapedians see the Bibloe, Creationism & "Rapture" as a Computer game? Susan^Purrrrr 11:38, 23 February 2008 (EST)

I find it comforting that the goal of the game is not to wipe out the enemy forces 'cause they've got to try and save as many of us as they can. PoorEd 12:33, 23 February 2008 (EST)

except in multi-player where you can play as Satan (Santa!) and then your goal is too damn souls to hell! The game is supposed to suck as a game but guess which side most liberal'

' game reviewers say is more fun?

Phy's boyfriend socks it up and vandalizes

ASchlafly's daughter's boyfriend admits to using socks to vandalizing CP. [11]

Andy begs him to stay. [12]

The above comment was added by User:85.195.123.29

I have to say, the latest WIGO is interesting but... highly confusing. It doesn't help that it switches between male and female without apparent reason (or is that a lingering joke...?)

Could the OP please clarify a little? It looks like there's good drama here with just a little digging, but currently I are just confused. Uchiha 16:40, 23 February 2008 (EST)

I think I maybe fixed it? Someone else posted the material, I didn't know that Phyllis<3Kektklik, but there we are...-αmεσ (soldier) 16:42, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Don't forget to go easy on the minors, if they are indeed such. But I do find it hilarious that a Schlafly spawn <3's a CP vandal and sockpuppeteer! human 16:47, 23 February 2008 (EST)

It's that devastating panache when employing deceit that makes us so irresistable to the ladieez (or men, depending, but there's no masculine homonym to 'ladieez'). --מְתֻרְגְּמָן ^{שְׁלֹום}

"Homieezz"?-αmεσ (soldier) 18:02, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Possibly, but it doesn't convey the similar 'lounge-lizard' vibe. --מְתֻרְגְּמָן ^{שְׁלֹום}

Also, if you look at the userboxen on PhyllisS's user page, "he" has accepted Jesus as "his" lord and saviour...which means either Phyllis has issues or my point in the "they" discussion above is right on. PFoster 17:47, 23 February 2008 (EST)

There is, however hope - one, in her choice of a partner to abstain from sex with, and two, she apparently has a sense of humor: "This user is Home-Learnded"! human 17:51, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Poor Andy... It seems that once again the internets have fucked'im over, and this time they really hit close to home. Uchiha^KATON! 17:56, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Andy's seething hatred for blacks Obama Affirmative Action Presidents

It's really showing more and more as the possibility of Obama being a serious contender increases.Shangrala 17:42, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Interestingly... Obama is right. But of course, that captain is probably a liberal. Barikada 17:45, 23 February 2008 (EST)

There was a suggestion put forth somewhere that this is more of a personal animosity than a racial one. Compare:

	Andy	Barack
Education	Harvard Law School	Harvard Law School
Publication	Editor Harvard Law Review	President Harvard Law Review
Congress	Attempted (failed) 1992 (5th, 11% vote)	Senate (win) 2004 (1st, 70% vote)
Today	Conservapedia	Running for president

In short, Barak is everything Andy wanted to be. --Shagie 18:59, 23 February 2008 (EST)

This is so right on that it's sad.-αmεσ (soldier) 19:27, 23 February 2008 (EST)

It gets bettah - they graduated from Hahvahd the same year. PFoster 19:29, 23 February 2008 (EST)

OMG I bet he beat Andy up and stole his lunch money. I'm sure Andy attributed the incident to deceit and assorted racist assumptions.-αmεσ (soldier) 19:38, 23 February 2008 (EST)

No, he would've attributed it to Sudden Jihad Syndrome. NightFlare^{Speak, mortal} 00:03, 24 February 2008 (EST)

Iduan apparently now classifies us as a hate site... :( Iduan, if you're reading this (assuming you read this here before), please know we are disappointed in your newfound draconian attitude, but you are still more deserving of a sysopship than almost any other CP editor. Uchiha^KATON! 22:50, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Apparently, he checks this page fairly regularly. He read that within 3 hours of its posting to have reason to block the guy. --Shagie 23:59, 23 February 2008 (EST)

I thought it was pretty funny, but it got myself and my socks and my IP banned. So they didn't agree. I'm surprised, though, since they didn't revert my commentary on the deconstruction page or the literature page that I was going to try to use to build a little inroad into their fort. Which, from looking at MexMax's stuff, is a pretty common pasttime.--Agbdavis 01:24, 24 February 2008 (EST)

References

I was going to mention that about the front page a while ago, and it seems to be getting worse. Almost all of the front page items are referenced to blogs, editorials or junk sites like Newsmax which are basically blogs pretending to be news. Almost all posted by Crocoite, I notice. Between that and his frankly crappy attitude towards non-Andy editors, it makes me wonder if he's a parodist bucking for TK's old spot. --Kels 18:49, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Hmm, I hadn't actually considered that, and it's an interesting point... Uchiha^KATON! 18:53, 23 February 2008 (EST)

He's really got that MexMax "succeeding through sucking up" vibe, although probably possessed of way more patience. In any case, he does a sterling job of making the front page, the first page a lot of people see, come off as reactionary, racist and xenophobic, to say nothing of pretty damn stupid. --Kels 18:55, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Although they are of the same mind (i.e. don't like Conservapedia), it may seem that those harassing Conservapedia through parody and those harassing them with liberal things like "facts" are at odd with eachother - the former will almost inevitably have to confront the latter in order to maintain the facade (think TK and the banhammer). However, I would actually be fairly content if CP ended up populated by nothing but liberal "trolls" and hyper-conservative parodists. Uchiha^KATON! 19:10, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Which reminds me... is TK's block almost expired? Uchiha^KATON! 23:59, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Here? I don't remember, I don't know, and I don't care. But this should tell you what you want to know. human 00:01, 24 February 2008 (EST)

CP, Names and Identity

Isn't requiring identity from minors something that is kind of illegal? or at least discouraged? --Shagie 19:03, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Nope. -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 22:12, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Giving out personal information over the internet is heavily discouraged, period. I assume Andy will want way more than a simple "Hi, my name is Simon Decker, can I have rights, please?" - he'll most likely want some sort of address or at least the city so that his watchdogs can do a background check (as well as check the IP to verify that it indeed is in that city). The entire "real name please" gig is a joke, anyway. Many core sysops still hide behind their fancy nicknames, tons of new people are allowed to have nicknames (like "Wahrheit" - which is just the German word for "truth"), and yet, some new guys are simply shoved around for not complying with The Rule. --Sid 08:27, 24 February 2008 (EST)

Smallguy's sysop survey

Could someone please sock up and inform SmallGuy, on cp:user_talk:Aschlafly about the REAL reason sysops "r e t i r e," and offer RW's help in answering further questions? Got me a new computer and I don't have FoxyProxy on it yet.-αmεσ (soldier) 19:49, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Only because I got so many replies on this, I've decided that in order to get all the information for my article, I should see why this site is brought up so often. I'm afraid that despite my research of wikis, I do not know much about wiki words - so excuse me for not understanding what "sock up" means. I'm open to any information you can provide me - however if anything is to be printed, given that I'm getting this research from other people, I'll need verification of some sort (like wiki diffs).--Smallguy 20:53, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Probably a good start for you (pending folks replying to you) is Conservapedia:Timeline --Kels 20:56, 23 February 2008 (EST)

You might also want look here and here. Pinto's5150 ^Talk 21:01, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Hi SmallGuy! In short, Andy's perpetrating a coverup on you. His sysop circle is pretty darn draconian, and I think from the articles linked above, you'll get a pretty good picture. I'm about to head out, so I'll have to give you detailed information later, but let me tell you, first, you should probably trust us above Schlafly. He's the king of subordinating facts to his little point of view, and when it comes to the site's sordid history, there's a good reason he's hiding it. Happy to talk to you later. BTW, I was KenH and SamRich :-)-αmεσ (soldier) 21:25, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Haha - you almost got me in trouble with Mr. Schlafly! Well, from what I gather from the links, Conservapedia used to be very open, however after a few vandals came and went the top guys are now slightly panicked about potential vandals, the consequence being that they sometimes overact and block users that aren't vandals; is that right?--Smallguy 21:31, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Well, first you have to redefine "vandals" to mean "people who won't lie in service of someone else's ideology"... --Kels 21:33, 23 February 2008 (EST)

It was never open, from the beginning, but there were more people, and the sysop system was less entrenched (i.e., you could disagree with them, without being blocked). The majority of the people here came along with the massive blog rush as the media found it, but, until they were blocked (for disagreeing with some of the bias), but didn't vandalise. This didn't stop many of them, who merely re-registered under different names and continued trying to correct what they saw as errors/bias/offensive stuff; this, together with infiltration (Samwell, and various parody articles), and normal vandalism made it what it is today, although, to be honest, it's concensus that that was an inevitable result of trying to combine the openness of a wiki with trying to create an openly conservative-biased site. --מְתֻרְגְּמָן ^{שְׁלֹום}

You were in trouble with him as soon as you logged on without intent to write articles from his viewpoint. His accusations of the 90/10 rule (an arbitrary way of kicking off people who are are trying to figure out the right way to write an article rather than knowing the Right way) have lead to many people's banning. You might also want to look at users like Indun who have been there for some time and done a lot of work there, who are not sysops because they don't follow exactly the lock step view (note, Iduan has changed recently to try to become a sysop). --Shagie 21:44, 23 February 2008 (EST)

You might want to also note that because of the paronia there, your talk page has been deleted to try to hide it from you and/or others. [13] Go ahead and ask why that was done there. See what answer you get. --Shagie 21:46, 23 February 2008 (EST)

On a semi-related note: I found this very amusing while it lasted. "Deletedpage" not working too well in this case, eh? Uchiha^KATON! 02:10, 24 February 2008 (EST)

Smallguy--if you REALLY want a good view of CP, here's what I suggest.

1. Get a new IP address. (You'll need this to avoid getting banned as a sock in the next step.)
2. Create a new account. (Since you're now KNOWN to be an agent of the Liberal Biased Media.)
3. Just try to edit, in as factual a manner as possible, some of the higher-profile pages. Do this for a week.

That should tell you EVERYTHING you'll need to know about CP. :(

--Gulik 03:10, 24 February 2008 (EST)

Parents

(ed. note - this emergs from Andy claiming that liberals try to "trick" kids into believing that their parents aren't cool.)

Speak for yourself, Andy. My parents are pretty damn cool (father dropped out of high school, educated himself very highly, instilled a lifelong love of reading in both children and became a Civil War buff, mother pulled her own bootstraps from farm girl to Toronto City Police). It's your parents (you only seem to have one worth mentioning, it seems) that suck. --Kels 23:27, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Why hasn't teh assfly added his latest trash to the "conservapedia terms" cat??? So I can find all the idiocy with one easy link? Whine. PS, I agree, the assfly's parent sucks. What's up with the sperm donor, anyway? human 23:47, 23 February 2008 (EST)

I think the problem is Assfly loves his mommy just that little bit too much. You've got to feel sorry for little Phyliss and Andy Jr. I mean... lots of kids have pushy parents, but... well.... it scarcely bares thinking about. --Jeēv☭s^{Your signature gave me epilepsy...} 05:17, 24 February 2008 (EST)

Andy is right about kids and parents, he is just two generations behind. As a group (according to the popular wisdom current in a couple of univeristy admissions offices with wihch I'm familar) the current crop of 0 to 20-somethings look to their parents for advice (and money) more so than the previous few generations. My guess is there isn't that much to rebel against (bread and circuses really does work) and the current rehash of 60-70s culture makes these parents valuble sources of information (or perhaps it is the extended [perpetual] nature of childhood that gives kids and parent a lot in common). This tendancy gives rise to the term "helicopter parent." I'm guessing the real problem is with little Phyliss and her penchant for bad boyz Andy BTw is probably a balck helicopter parent . . disembowelling cattle and all . . . .

*Looks up what the heck a "helicopter parent" is.* Hahah, that's a great term. In Scandinavia, kids of such parents are usually known as "curling children". :-) --AKjeldsen^Godspeed! 08:46, 24 February 2008 (EST)

My parents are awesome too. Maybe I'm a conservative?-αmεσ (soldier) 10:03, 24 February 2008 (EST)

So're mine! CЯacke® 10:53, 24 February 2008 (EST)

Mine were better than I deserved Susan^Purrrrr 11:01, 24 February 2008 (EST)