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WTF is a Hydroplate anyway?[edit]
I'm tired and cranky and just woke up from a nap. It's been a few years, and I don't remember how to sign this goddamn thing. Here it is DavidL (talk) 00:06, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Oh has Launchbottom rolled out his tame crazy, Walt Brown, again? IIRC hydroplate theory is his (and only his) theory that prior to the flood, earth rested on giant plates, like tectonic plates, only not, which rested on water. These then collapsed, compressing the water below and causing the "fountains of the deep." At the same time, these "magnitude 12" earthquakes basically melted the earth's crust and turned it into a giant nuclear reactor, which is why you can't trust C-12 dating. And through all this, a little wooden boat bobbed on top of the water. And yes, they don't believe in tectonic plates. LongLostLegend (talk) 12:57, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- We even have an article on it: Hydroplate_theory. LongLostLegend (talk) 13:03, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Rob Smith on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.[edit]
Rob,you poor little victim of racism, how the hell is criticising the Israeli Defence Forces Holocaust denial? --Mercian (talk) 21:05, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
- It's a crude attempt to distract people from his own anti-semitism. LondonGrump (talk) 22:49, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
- You have to remember that the only reason that "Christians" like Rob support Israel, is they need it to get destroyed to usher in the Rapture. LongLostLegend (talk) 12:54, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thought about that. You actually have to click on the link to get the whole story. Any suggestions for a better subheading? nobs piss in my ear 01:11, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- How about "The thought of AOC scares me so much that my balls crawl back into my body cavity and I will string together a quote from some nishtikeit and a very tenuous article that presumes guilt by vague association while I continue to bleat on about George Soros and his global banking cabal and excuse the very real antisemitism from far right movements in the US and Europe"? LondonGrump (talk) 21:17, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- I can agree with about half of that. nobs piss in my ear 05:50, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- How about "The thought of AOC scares me so much that my balls crawl back into my body cavity and I will string together a quote from some nishtikeit and a very tenuous article that presumes guilt by vague association while I continue to bleat on about George Soros and his global banking cabal and excuse the very real antisemitism from far right movements in the US and Europe"? LondonGrump (talk) 21:17, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thought about that. You actually have to click on the link to get the whole story. Any suggestions for a better subheading? nobs piss in my ear 01:11, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- You have to remember that the only reason that "Christians" like Rob support Israel, is they need it to get destroyed to usher in the Rapture. LongLostLegend (talk) 12:54, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Responses to atheist arguments[edit]
Updated text from work of genius to describe Ken's approach:
- When
having a discussion with an atheisthiding behind a website you never leave and can control all and every ground-rule to avoid actual discussion,it is important to listenblock first and shout about winning every debate afterwards,be empatheticAccuse your opponents of every moral failing from being obese, being a necrophiliac or a bestiality fiend, andbuild rapport with that atheistlose all respect by being unwilling or too incompetent to actually build and argue an actual position. In addition, askopen ended questionspretend your questions have never been answered despite being answered numerous times over many years.If this is not done, the atheist will be resistant to what the believer in God has to sayBy doing all this you'll only convince everyone of your utter weakness and cowardice while spouting irrelevant Sun Tzu quotes when we all know Sun Tzu says the complete opposite of what your actually doing. In other words, Tzu was not a weakling who hid inside his wall shouting about how he could defeat people without actually doing anything.
Hope this has been enlightening. Acei9 08:08, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Ace McWicked I think he's confused you with me. I was the one who went on that Sun Tzu spiel. — Palaeonictis Fossil beds 10:14, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Geez u guys, you're sleeping on the job. He's making the argument for the Green New Deal and the War on Cow Farts now [1][2] as the world adopts an American diet:
- You see the planet earth moving towards what is the Standard American Diet. We’ve seen this massive increase in consumption of meat produced by the industrial animal agriculture industry. The tragic reality is this planet simply can’t sustain billions of people consuming industrially produced animal agriculture because of environmental impact. It’s just not possible, as China, as Africa move toward consuming meat the same way America does because we just don’t have enough land. The number-one reason for rainforest destruction now is animal grazing land. We see greenhouse producing gases produced; the devastating impact is just not practical. The numbers just don’t add up. We will destroy our planet unless we start figuring out a better way forward when it comes to our climate change and our environment. nobs piss in my ear 20:11, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Geez u guys, you're sleeping on the job. He's making the argument for the Green New Deal and the War on Cow Farts now [1][2] as the world adopts an American diet:
Ref: Essay:_Open_letter_to_the_British_agnostic_%22Mercian%22[edit]
I don't converse with Nazi Sympathisers. Go and write an essay titled "The eternal atheist", showing some pictures of rat infestations, that would be right up your street--Mercian (talk) 17:37, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- PS. In your latest later to ACE you say "Ace McWicked, if you want to get in contact with the User: Conservative account, you can do so here: MESSAGE AREA. The message area may be checked infrequently. If you want to provide feedback concerning content this account has created at Conservapedia, please use the talk pages of the respective articles." Checked infrequently my arse, you will be checking it every few minutes to satisfy your sexual desires.--Mercian (talk) 17:43, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- On Samhb's talk page ". re: Atheism and cancer article: I had no idea that you had cancer when I wrote the article Atheism and cancer." So when taking into account this post[3] dated 22 December 2017 at 11.52 AM UK time and this article [4] at 08.32 EST ,2 hours after I posted proves that he is a liar.--Mercian (talk) 00:09, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Mercian Why is he now so obsessed with making personal attack essays? --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularR
asoningSee my experiments 22:03, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think it's a way for him to feel more like he's a beribboned soldier fighting a grand noble war in a clash of civilizations and less like an angry internet shitposter identical to every other middle aged white guy who blames Mexico for stealing their youth and the kids not calling. Some people are comforted by the thought of their boot stamping a human face forever. I appreciate it when people warn me of this in advance, though, so I can avoid being around them. Semipenultimate (talk) 16:25, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Mercian Why is he now so obsessed with making personal attack essays? --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularR
- On Samhb's talk page ". re: Atheism and cancer article: I had no idea that you had cancer when I wrote the article Atheism and cancer." So when taking into account this post[3] dated 22 December 2017 at 11.52 AM UK time and this article [4] at 08.32 EST ,2 hours after I posted proves that he is a liar.--Mercian (talk) 00:09, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- PS. In your latest later to ACE you say "Ace McWicked, if you want to get in contact with the User: Conservative account, you can do so here: MESSAGE AREA. The message area may be checked infrequently. If you want to provide feedback concerning content this account has created at Conservapedia, please use the talk pages of the respective articles." Checked infrequently my arse, you will be checking it every few minutes to satisfy your sexual desires.--Mercian (talk) 17:43, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
The Battle of Gay Bowel Syndrome[edit]
[6] So you find the death of a thousand men on HMS Hood a topic of humour do you Ken? Ha ha ha, those who died on 9/11 is a great joke, do you find that funny? Then again you have shown much scorn for unionised firemen who went into the buildings knowing damn well they would not be coming out again so you probably do. You total and utter fucking wanker--Mercian (talk) 11:56, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- I apologise for the above post and would remove it if it were not RW policy. Rage over but that lowlife has somehow done the impossible and sunk even lower.--Mercian (talk) 12:04, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Mercian Nah, don't worry. He deserved it; his heart is full of more hate than I previously thought, and I fully agree with your initial comment. --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularRasoningSee my experiments 17:43, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Mercian Nah, don't worry. He deserved it; his heart is full of more hate than I previously thought, and I fully agree with your initial comment. --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularR
Pssst Ken![edit]
A couple of points on your last missive
- Using "Hood" as an analogy is particularly applicable to a racist website like yours.
- The "Germanic efficiency" you gloat about were Nazis. Yup. you're literally cheering on Nazis. You could've used Bismark, or Tirpitz, or Yamato, but you chose to cheer on the Nazis. Very "Christian" of you.
- Read up on what happened to the Bismark. That is literally the analogy of your life.
- The fact that you're resurrecting GBS 8 years after you were handed your arse on what bullshit it is, shows just how weak your argument is.
- Quote mining people does not facts make.
- Well done on covering the family friendly encyclopedia with gay bowels again.
- Does the syndrome also affect Mormon girls who have anal sex to preserve their virginity?
Lets see how long it takes for your post to vanish. Oh, it already has. LongLostLegend (talk) 12:02, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- I would ask how he is allowed to get away with this crap but Schlafly is just as much of a turd as he is. He can get away with crap but if you call Ken a fool on CP you are threatened with the ban hammer. [7]--Mercian (talk) 12:10, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- It's easy - Ken (like all the early sysops) regurgitates a huge amount of the homophobic, sexist, racist drivel that Andy masturbates himself to sleep with every night. It doesn't matter if it's correct or not, if Andy likes it - it goes in the encyclopedia. The irony being that Andy and Ken probably share equal responsibility for the conservative community shunning Conservapedia, like a gay stepchild. LongLostLegend (talk) 12:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Although this was vaped it seems to double down that WW2 was the fault of Britain. Conservative (Talk | contribs) deleted page User:Conservative/Gentlemen (content was: "Mercian, Between being the fountainhead of Darwinism and helping to craft a poorly done Versailles Treaty, the Brits played a key role in terms of help..." (and the only contributor was "Conservative")) With the vile posts he allows to stand it is horrifying to think what is behind his many over sited posts. It would be very hard to find but I believe Schlafly himself referred to 1930s Germany in favourable terms to the contemporary UK. --Mercian (talk) 09:05, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- It's easy - Ken (like all the early sysops) regurgitates a huge amount of the homophobic, sexist, racist drivel that Andy masturbates himself to sleep with every night. It doesn't matter if it's correct or not, if Andy likes it - it goes in the encyclopedia. The irony being that Andy and Ken probably share equal responsibility for the conservative community shunning Conservapedia, like a gay stepchild. LongLostLegend (talk) 12:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- I would ask how he is allowed to get away with this crap but Schlafly is just as much of a turd as he is. He can get away with crap but if you call Ken a fool on CP you are threatened with the ban hammer. [7]--Mercian (talk) 12:10, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Who has the gayest bowel?[edit]
For anyone interested - if you head on over to astorehouseofknowledge.info and read the talk pages of user:RuyLopez (Ken’s sock over there) you’ll see him get completely owned on the Gay Bowel Syndrome stuff. I don’t know why he is rehashing it now given he was completely thumped by everyone on it some 10 years ago. Enjoy. Acei9
“”I never noticed this matter because I rarely think of homosexuality. Generally, I only think about of the topic of homosexuality when the media mentions the subject. One of the reasons I rarely think of the subject of homosexuality is the inoculation I received against homosexuality from the John Wayne movies I watched. :) |
| —Ken (FSTDT link) |
Just imagine...[edit]
You know nothing of Conservapedia and you stumble on it and are immediately directed to an “essay” explaining how John Wayne has straight and clean bowl health and that people don’t associate Armish with anal sex. Is the no better deprement to the cause than Ken. Acei9 23:49, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- I wonder if Andy ever looks at his works and despairs--User:Brxbrx/sig 05:12, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- It's a fun thought experiment but I really doubt he has that sort of self-awareness and reflection, or if he does, he certainly lost it years ago. --It's-a me,
LeftyGreenMario! 05:15, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- It's funny how much of human civilization is driven by lack of self-awareness--"Shut up, Brx." 05:18, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- And you then decide it is a fantastic resource for your child's education, after all that is CP's stated purpose. As for Andy despairing, no chance. Ken is his useful tool to say things he totally agrees with whilst being able to distance himself from such comments --Mercian (talk)
- I mean, cocky people are people who run for government and then run for civilization, and you need a certain amount of cockiness to just dismiss and stomach criticism you're going to get, especially the vicious stuff. Call me for a lack of imagination, argument from incredulity, but I just can't imagine a shy, sensitive person ever winning office. But I don't think Andy runs civilization lol, he's more of a symptom of Bible fever... maybe more like pneumonia. I really don't understand either Andy or Ken's thought processes. I'd go insane from building so many walls to deflect criticism and double down, they'd crush me. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 05:24, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- You're dealing in vulgar stereotypes when you say "he's more of a symptom of Bible fever... . I really don't understand either Andy or Ken's thought processes." Actually there is quite a disparity between Andy & Ken's approach to the Bible. Andy approaches it from a Roman Catholic perspective, and Ken's Methodism restrains him from participating in Andy's Bible Project. All this is quite evident in the "fundamentalist" concept of cp:spirit, which is a redirect to "Holy Spirit". If CP was as "Bible based" as anti-Christian religious bigots make it out be, this error would have been corrected a long time ago, a full page on "Spirit" would have been created. Ken's either not knowledgeable enough to fill in this glaring gap or too concerned with atheism, homosexuality and evolution. And Andy has no religious instruction other than Roman Catholic teaching and tradition, which tossed out the Bible centuries ago. That leaves it to me to do a page on the meaning and definition of "spirit" from a bible-based perspective. But I'll leave you rational intellectuals to your hate-filled, errant bigotry and stereotypes for now. nobsI'm all yea'res 19:30, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- I mean, cocky people are people who run for government and then run for civilization, and you need a certain amount of cockiness to just dismiss and stomach criticism you're going to get, especially the vicious stuff. Call me for a lack of imagination, argument from incredulity, but I just can't imagine a shy, sensitive person ever winning office. But I don't think Andy runs civilization lol, he's more of a symptom of Bible fever... maybe more like pneumonia. I really don't understand either Andy or Ken's thought processes. I'd go insane from building so many walls to deflect criticism and double down, they'd crush me. --It's-a me,
- And you then decide it is a fantastic resource for your child's education, after all that is CP's stated purpose. As for Andy despairing, no chance. Ken is his useful tool to say things he totally agrees with whilst being able to distance himself from such comments --Mercian (talk)
- It's funny how much of human civilization is driven by lack of self-awareness--"Shut up, Brx." 05:18, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- It's a fun thought experiment but I really doubt he has that sort of self-awareness and reflection, or if he does, he certainly lost it years ago. --It's-a me,
- I wonder if Andy ever looks at his works and despairs--User:Brxbrx/sig 05:12, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Ken's message area.[edit]
He advised that we could post on this page [8] if we wanted to communicate with him. As you can see that statement, like every other thing he types with his keyboard is absolute and total bollocks.--Mercian (talk) 20:42, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- This is, oh... *chef's kiss* Semipenultimate (talk) 22:19, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- This message is better [9] -73.72.109.180 (talk) 22:43, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
- Link goes to an error page. Semipenultimate (talk) 15:53, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- He deleted it after I posted. He is like a devious dirty old man who tries to lure a kid in with sweets before closing the gate and denying he did such a thing in the first place.--Mercian (talk) 16:47, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- This message is better [9] -73.72.109.180 (talk) 22:43, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Article of the Year.[edit]
Ken unilaterally decides that one his shit pieces which is nothing more than a copy/paste of other articles of his, without any regard whatsoever of other users work, is [10] That is how dictators operate after all. Meanwhile in Andyland, being right-wing murderous scumbags had nothing to do with the New Zealand Massacres, it was Facebook [11] Before he comes back with any "Witty" repartee I would like to remind people what Ken thinks of victims of terrorism "Pro sodomite sluts and whores" --Mercian (talk) 23:15, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Fucking dumb ass. Obviously if there was no Facebook this would never have happened. WTF is wrong with you? Can't you see the logic in this? Acei9 02:50, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- It's not incorrect that social media, and more broadly the internet, has made it a lot easier for the worst of the worst in society to form large communities and spread their toxic mentalities without social or legal repercussions. It's not obvious how to address this short from overreaching government action. Maybe the Luddites were right all along. 2A02:1810:4D34:DC00:6C5D:2EE2:4AFB:6C04 (talk) 03:18, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Ref Essay: To the British agnostic Mercian, re: your bitter obsession with my views on the Manchester Arena bombing[edit]
[12] So criticising your view that the victims were "Pro sodomite sluts and whores" is a bitter obsession is it wanker? If you want to play the cunt two can play at that, I still have the screenshot where you described the victims as such, I think I will now post it on all the social media I can, Schalafly employers and patreons etc to show the world that for every vile article which is allowed to stand far more vile articles are deep burned. lets see if you are still Schalafly's blue eyed boy after his name has been dragged through the mud.--Mercian (talk) 10:07, 17 March 2019 (UTC) (UTC)
- Schlafly doesn't have a name to drag through the mud. But link to your threatened social media blitz please. — Unsigned, by: 142.54.207.104 / talk
- Kind of thing I'd like to read about in the Mail Online - "Sick US website celebrates Manchester terrorist bombing" and links to the Westboro Baptists. LondonGrump (talk) 17:29, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Mike Pence - not a real conservative[edit]
| Mike Pence isn't a real conservative according to Andy. Acei9 05:21, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Ace McWicked WTF seriously?! *BANG* Well, there went my irony meter. --Goatspeed. Stalk meCircularRasoningSee my experiments 17:40, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- That is a thing of beauty. LondonGrump (talk) 08:39, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- It'll be interesting to see who Andy sees as the perfect conservative these days. I'm guessing Ted Nugent. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 10:22, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- For Andy to see the perfect conservative, he needs to do one of two things:
- It'll be interesting to see who Andy sees as the perfect conservative these days. I'm guessing Ted Nugent. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 10:22, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- That is a thing of beauty. LondonGrump (talk) 08:39, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Look in a mirror.
- Exhume his mother’s corpse.
MDB (the MD used to be for Maryland, but now means Magically Deliciousthe B is still for Bear) 21:14, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Setback for the homosexual agenda, Schlafly shows his true colours.[edit]
[13]By celebrating that Brunei will now stone to death homosexuals and thieves having their hands amputated. I have wondered he tolerates Ken, this post makes Ken look like an ultra liberal feminist. A more apt title would be a setback for human rights going back to the Dark Ages--Mercian (talk) 02:55, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- From the lack of replies I deduce that no one is suprised in the slightest.--Mercian (talk) 13:45, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- It's easy to forget just how much of a cunt Schlafly really is. Spud (talk) 13:49, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Celebrating my ass. You guys are spewing Islamophobic hate. nobsI'm all yea'res 17:06, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Is that an attempt at irony, Rob? Don't give up any day job you might think of getting. LondonGrump (talk) 22:36, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Do you think bad faith statements like this help you in some way, make you look like a reasoned person? Phobias require specific outsized reactions to something that, when it occurs under different circumstances or from different groups, do not result in the same reaction. I think you will find the exact same reaction from the folks here if any other country in the world passed laws mandating stoning -anybody- to death for -any- reason, let alone sexual conduct between consenting adults. Religion doesn't enter into it at all. Semipenultimate (talk) 22:50, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Spewing Islamophobic hate? One day Andy gave his heartfelt sympathy to the Christchurch attacks and an hour later Terry posted a news item spewing Islamophobic hate and how they should be wiped out. He has since posted another couple of similar articles and within the next week or so he will post more. Be honest Rob, Andy would like nothing more to seeing homosexuals stoned to death and probably adulterous women also given his views on The Adulterous story. The men get a free hand but the women are stoned. This is what happens in some countries were a woman is raped and jailed because she was tempting the man who gets no more than a slap on the wrist. He is the same as these Muslim radicals the root difference being that he believes that it was Isaac and not Ishmael who was subject to God's "mercy".--Mercian (talk) 20:03, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Believe it or not you guys raise some good points about finding a balance between homophobia and Islamophobia. I too, am sickened by some of the anti-Islamic responses to NZ shooting. It's easy from an anti-God perspective to say, "all religious beliefs create irrational thinking like homophobia and Islamophobia," but face facts, Ken's right, you guys (a) are in a tiny global minority and (b) going on a gospel crusade for science and rationalism makes you look and sound like religious nutcases. It would seem more practicable to work within the established system of faith and interfaith communities to produce a sense of moderation to counter extremism that exist everywhere - not just in various name-brand faiths but among believers and skeptics as well (wearing the skeptic mantle doesn't absolve someone from extremist views).
- The time is short, and these issues can't or shouldn't be kicked down the road.
- Perhaps an approach of stopping the blame game all around would be a staring point... nobsI'm all yea'res 21:03, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Does that include your "conservative" pals on the far right in Europe? LondonGrump (talk) 22:48, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- I think you guys have a somewhat skewed understanding of "conservatism" or "the right," both in the US & Europe. The Right and conservationism is not so much a coherent ideology or organized movement as the Left is. Often time what is labeled "the right" or "conservatism" is simply anti-Leftism, which is has a definitive agenda. The Left has top-down support networks, the Right is more often disconnected individualist and grassroots. To the extend the Right is organized at all (take the RNC, for example), it pantomimes organizations on the left, and always has difficulty gaining cooperation among supposed adherents. A simple illustration is Obamacare - while the Left was highly organized in passing it, the Right is united only its opposition, nothing more. nobsI'm all yea'res 21:07, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- I know I am arguing with an intellectual giant with a an excellent grasp of politics and the Marxist dialectic in particular, but sometimes you should step away from the keyboard and, you know, get active. You know, like Terry Hurlbut does. Like I've done for decades now. I'm nowhere near as active as I was back in the 80s but my humble experience tells me two things. First, that the left is more fragmented than the right. I'm not talking Theresa May's Conservative Party, I'm talking the ultra-Moggian fringes and beyond. Remember the People's Front of Judea? Where do you think Monty Python got the idea from? Second, that the right is far more co-ordinated than the left. In the old days, we needed the likes of Searchlight to focus the tracking of the far right. Now, the internet makes it quite easy for anyone to track them, their money and their central characters. The same faces come up again and again, the same focal points, the same money.
- I can understand why people like you think Shoah survivor George Soros is at the centre of a global conspiracy in cahoots Wall Street behind it. That's why asked you about your "conservative" pals in Europe.
- The difference between you and them is a matter of honesty. They will stand up and clearly say what they mean. We can see them coming. You, you're the type who wraps himself up in the flag of moderation while carrying their bricks and yellow paint, the type that polishes the brass on the trains that run to Auschwitz-Birkenau, all in the name of moderation.
- While we're here, you do know that Obamacare is not considered left-wing anywhere outside conservative (look, no quotation marks) circles in the US, don't you? That your Democratic Party is centre right everywhere outside of the US? Of course you do, you're just being ironic again. LondonGrump (talk) 06:05, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'll confine my remarks to the American Left for now (Europe would need a little more study; incidentally, who are these "funders" behind the Yellow vests?). It would help if you gave some examples of these far Right funding sources. The cp:Koch Brothers? wp:Sheldon Adelson? The Mercers? This is nothing compared to global Leftist contributors (I noticed Bernie Sanders is running against the "Prison Industrial Complex," a term coined by a Soros-funnded convicted terrorist serving 30 years in prison). The Koch bros pretty much focus on state GOP parties, Adelson on RNC activities, and the Mercer's a rightwing rag. Notice the American Right doesn't sprout "a veritable anthill" to use Uncle Joe Stalin's term, of front groups, like BLM, Left Inside/Outside Project or cp:Our Revolution. The best example is the Democratic Socialists of America, which masquerades as a political party but is not a political party at all. To secure democratic "voting rights" in a DSA caucus, one must first pass an ideological litmus test. This qualifier doesn't even apply to the DNC or RNC, yet 40% of the DNC base and elected officeholders pledge some allegiance to the DSA. This recalls language from the Internal Security Act of 1950: " Although such Communist organizations usually designate themselves as political parties, they are in fact constituent elements of the world-wide movement and promote the objectives of such movement by conspiratorial and coercive tactics, and especially by the use of espionage and sabotage, instead of through the democratic processes of a free elective system or through the freedom-preserving means employed by a political party which operates as an agency by which people govern themselves." Nothing has changed much in its objectives for change, other than not taking direction from Moscow, which is why they spawned a 'Third Red Scare.'
- As to Obamacare, True. The idea was Newt Gingrich's response to Hillaycare in the early 90s, implemented by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts, and designed to fail when the Dems implemented it nationally in 2010. This illustrates my point; the Right had no agenda for a government run national healthcare system, and reacted to Leftists' call for "change." Political bullshit, that only the Left took seriously, and God-help-us, made law. People on the so-called Right just want to be left alone (see the definition of Liberty). People on the so-called Left just wanna fuck with people in a power game. nobsI'm all yea'res 16:48, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- I think you guys have a somewhat skewed understanding of "conservatism" or "the right," both in the US & Europe. The Right and conservationism is not so much a coherent ideology or organized movement as the Left is. Often time what is labeled "the right" or "conservatism" is simply anti-Leftism, which is has a definitive agenda. The Left has top-down support networks, the Right is more often disconnected individualist and grassroots. To the extend the Right is organized at all (take the RNC, for example), it pantomimes organizations on the left, and always has difficulty gaining cooperation among supposed adherents. A simple illustration is Obamacare - while the Left was highly organized in passing it, the Right is united only its opposition, nothing more. nobsI'm all yea'res 21:07, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Does that include your "conservative" pals on the far right in Europe? LondonGrump (talk) 22:48, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Spewing Islamophobic hate? One day Andy gave his heartfelt sympathy to the Christchurch attacks and an hour later Terry posted a news item spewing Islamophobic hate and how they should be wiped out. He has since posted another couple of similar articles and within the next week or so he will post more. Be honest Rob, Andy would like nothing more to seeing homosexuals stoned to death and probably adulterous women also given his views on The Adulterous story. The men get a free hand but the women are stoned. This is what happens in some countries were a woman is raped and jailed because she was tempting the man who gets no more than a slap on the wrist. He is the same as these Muslim radicals the root difference being that he believes that it was Isaac and not Ishmael who was subject to God's "mercy".--Mercian (talk) 20:03, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Celebrating my ass. You guys are spewing Islamophobic hate. nobsI'm all yea'res 17:06, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- It's easy to forget just how much of a cunt Schlafly really is. Spud (talk) 13:49, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Pure bullshit[edit]
What? RW now establishes itself as a fake news outlet? From the first edit, I clearly placed the NZ attack in category Terrorism, and there is no less than five references to it as terrorism in mainspace. nobsI'm all yea'res 18:10, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Joke[edit]
VargasMilan posted this joke, which I don't see why its funny. Anyway, its nice to see Cons being nice to fellow editors. CPWatcher (talk) 10:42, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
This is just disgusting[edit]
I really think Andy and his ilk have sunk to a new low with their Biden attacks, not only have they defended rapists like Roy Moore and Brett kavanaugh they are now asking why Obama isn't being prosecuted for putting biden in power, like the catholic clergy was prosecuted for putting child rapping priests in power and protecting these rapists. Biden has been accused of uninvited hugs, and should/leg pats. What is wrong with these people. — Unsigned, by: 2601:183:8480:50ff:19c0:2620:6206:7255 / talk
- Of course. It does not matter to them the character of Biden/Moore etc but whether they are homophobes, Islamophobes, misogynists etc. Trump can grab women by the pussy and Moore can shag 15 year old girls as long as they hate what Andy does. A long over sited post in Conservapedia stated that the Bible allows sex with minors so that is OK (supporting Moore). A not so long over sited post by Ken (just this week) supported a British Judge (who should be struck off) who advocated marital rape. Andy loves Putin, Bolsonaro and the Brunei leader because they hate gays and everything else about them does not matter. The Trump Era has been a godsend to Conservapedia because when their appointed by God president brings active hate into the mainstream it is far more acceptable for them to support those views. Andy is disgusting, Ken is disgusting and so is Knobs, who I actually quite liked until recently.--Mercian (talk) 13:35, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
O how the mighty have fallen[edit]
And to think Conservapedia is the reason this site exists in the first place. Pathetic. — Oxyaena Harass 01:47, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Wait, what? Ken...again?[edit]
Ken’s still trying to get my attention about...something I can’t really understand. Anyway - this supposed gamma male is laying down to sleep with his slim, long-haired atheist woman (I know you get your kicks from long hair Ken. You used to talk at length about going dancing with long-haired creationist ladies). Do you have a partner Ken? Female or otherwise? Well, if not you should try it. Would get you outside and active away from CP at least. Talk to you in the morning, sweets. Acei9 10:33, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- I note that he tried, and failed, to oversight a question about his pet project. It now sits, unanswered, in an archive. Seriously, after how long he can't even burn the evidence right? The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:46, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Oh and BTW Ken, I have been reading through some CP archives during my downtime in the office and I am wondering about this comment of yours: And today, an organization which specializes in teaching biblical creation to children agreed to serve as editors to read our initial draft of the Question evolution! book for middle school students. In addition, four teenagers agreed to serve as editors/feedback as well. We expect the book to be published in 2013
- I'd like to read the booklet - where can I find a copy? Acei9 20:21, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- The obvious answer to why the book hasn't been published has to involve both Hillary Clinton and time travel. It makes more sense than 'Conservapedia's full of shit-talking delusional gadflies that are all hat and no cattle'. Semipenultimate (talk) 20:21, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- Ken's reply [14]
- The obvious answer to why the book hasn't been published has to involve both Hillary Clinton and time travel. It makes more sense than 'Conservapedia's full of shit-talking delusional gadflies that are all hat and no cattle'. Semipenultimate (talk) 20:21, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Question Evolution book and an evolutionist pretending to be omniscient
Continuation of this discussion Question Evolution book for middle school students is given below.
"The obvious answer to why the book hasn't been published..." - Semipenultimate.
Is it true that a Question Evolution book for middle school students has not been published? Exactly, how do you know this? You don't know this.
By the way, is creationism and intelligent being taught in public schools, charter schools and private religious by teachers without evolutionists being aware of it?
New York Times: "Teaching creationism in public schools has consistently been ruled unconstitutional in federal courts, but according to a national survey of more than 900 public high school biology teachers, it continues to flourish in the nation’s classrooms. Researchers found that only 28 percent of biology teachers consistently follow the recommendations of the National Research Council to describe straightforwardly the evidence for evolution and explain the ways in which it is a unifying theme in all of biology. At the other extreme, 13 percent explicitly advocate creationism, and spend at least an hour of class time presenting it in a positive light. That leaves what the authors call “the cautious 60 percent,” who avoid controversy by endorsing neither evolution nor its unscientific alternatives. In various ways, they compromise."[24]
Semipenultimate, you are not omniscient. Stop pretending to be.
"Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate." - Sun Tzu Conservative (talk) 12:07, 12 April 2019 (EDT)
There is no record of this book being published so if it has been, as he virtually admitted, it is a publication intended to subvert the law along the lines of the The Terrorist Cookbook. I think The FBI needs to have a look at this. As the FBI investigated a vandalism episode on Conservapedia they will surely be interested in a blatant attempt to break US law to teach creationism in public schools. Ken should be careful what he writes and admits to, he could find himself in the klink. I am being facetious here as I would not expect The FBI to investigate a case that is obvious bullshit by a person who has a long history of lying and distorting the truth to get attention. As Trump might say, "Sad".--Mercian (talk) 16:17, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- PS, how is admitting to breaking the law on a public forum in anyway "Subtle"?--Mercian (talk) 16:19, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- walks up to podium Gosh, there's so many people to thank for this award; I'd like to thank Conservative, without whose repetitive pointless screeds these talk pages might be empty; I'd like to thank Andy Schlafly for abandoning Engineering, a field where he could actually hurt people; and last but not least, I'd like to thank nobs, the only one of them with the courage to actually step out of the CP police state to come comment in this open forum where nothing ever gets memory-holed. Semipenultimate (talk) 16:54, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- the easiest way to know there is no booklet is the fact that if there was one Ken would never shut up about it. He spent the better part of 2 years making vague proclamations that there was this booklet coming, some group was being formed (whatever happened to Project 200+ Ken?), he had spoken with someone who was going to edit it but they got a cold, spamming the main page, pretending there was a group of QE! Fans while challenging people to debate a guy called VinaVisnu or some such. The outcome? Quiet deletion. An utter failure. Machismo! Ole! Acei9 21:21, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- There was some now burned evidence posted some time back which was very convincing of two photos with people who had the booklet. One was of some young people in a bar having a good time reading and pointing to the booklet on a mobile phone. The second was of a fair ground with a man on stilts holding the booklet standing next to a second person. If I remember correctly there were a couple of very new looking cars in this photo that indicate it was taken some time in the early to mid 1990s so it has been around a lot longer than claimed.--Mercian (talk) 22:22, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- ” I feel no great need to loudly and incessantly trumpet the launching of any particular creationist book” - Ken, you spent nearly 2 years promoting this QE! nonsense over multiple pages (including plastering all over the CP homepage). Who do you think you’re kidding here? Acei9 04:32, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- ^ This. Your video means nothing. Where is the booklet? Acei9 21:41, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- The variously attributed quotation 'I love the sound of deadlines whizzing/whooshing by' probably applies. And then you have to find a publisher and get an ISBN and print the things out and sell them. Anna Livia (talk) 23:12, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- What happened to the booklet Ken? Your scrawl of text doesn’t mention the QE! Campaign - how is it going? Acei9 00:16, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Criminy. Stick a pig and hear him squeal. He's on a real posting jag about this.--Martin Arrowsmith (talk) 00:47, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- I can’t figure out why I should give a fuck about atheism in the UK or China. Or why I care if atheism grows or declines. I’m comfortable in my beliefs, I don’t care how many people believe or disbelieve in a god. It doesn’t matter to me. What I do want to know is how the QE! Campaign is growing. I want to read the booklet Ken promised us. Acei9 00:57, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- with dtp how hard is it to produce a booklet really in the time hes had? i could crap one out tomorrow with potato printing and poster paint. AMassiveGay (talk) 01:04, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- We've been over this before Ken, NZ has below 50% levels of Christianity and has been dropping every year with non-religious topping 40%. There is no reason to think this is going to change and even if I does I don't care. None of our leaders over the last 30 years have been religious, we removed references to Jesus Christ from our parliament and church attendance has been dropping consistently. Even if it wasn't I don't care. I doesn't effect me in the slightest. I'm living my life, by the beach, with my long-haired atheist girlfriend (who, as it happens, is an American). My sister is religous and her husband a preacher but I don't care. It has no effect on my own beliefs. Also the 15 questions have been answered multiple times by people far more qualified than me so if you want answers just look them. What happened to Project 200+ Ken? where is the booklet? You've achieved nothing and are too weak to come over here and speak to me directly. If you want to talk do it here. But you won't - you have no machismo. Ole! Acei9 05:49, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- with dtp how hard is it to produce a booklet really in the time hes had? i could crap one out tomorrow with potato printing and poster paint. AMassiveGay (talk) 01:04, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- I can’t figure out why I should give a fuck about atheism in the UK or China. Or why I care if atheism grows or declines. I’m comfortable in my beliefs, I don’t care how many people believe or disbelieve in a god. It doesn’t matter to me. What I do want to know is how the QE! Campaign is growing. I want to read the booklet Ken promised us. Acei9 00:57, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Criminy. Stick a pig and hear him squeal. He's on a real posting jag about this.--Martin Arrowsmith (talk) 00:47, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- What happened to the booklet Ken? Your scrawl of text doesn’t mention the QE! Campaign - how is it going? Acei9 00:16, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- The variously attributed quotation 'I love the sound of deadlines whizzing/whooshing by' probably applies. And then you have to find a publisher and get an ISBN and print the things out and sell them. Anna Livia (talk) 23:12, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- ^ This. Your video means nothing. Where is the booklet? Acei9 21:41, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- ” I feel no great need to loudly and incessantly trumpet the launching of any particular creationist book” - Ken, you spent nearly 2 years promoting this QE! nonsense over multiple pages (including plastering all over the CP homepage). Who do you think you’re kidding here? Acei9 04:32, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- There was some now burned evidence posted some time back which was very convincing of two photos with people who had the booklet. One was of some young people in a bar having a good time reading and pointing to the booklet on a mobile phone. The second was of a fair ground with a man on stilts holding the booklet standing next to a second person. If I remember correctly there were a couple of very new looking cars in this photo that indicate it was taken some time in the early to mid 1990s so it has been around a lot longer than claimed.--Mercian (talk) 22:22, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- the easiest way to know there is no booklet is the fact that if there was one Ken would never shut up about it. He spent the better part of 2 years making vague proclamations that there was this booklet coming, some group was being formed (whatever happened to Project 200+ Ken?), he had spoken with someone who was going to edit it but they got a cold, spamming the main page, pretending there was a group of QE! Fans while challenging people to debate a guy called VinaVisnu or some such. The outcome? Quiet deletion. An utter failure. Machismo! Ole! Acei9 21:21, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- walks up to podium Gosh, there's so many people to thank for this award; I'd like to thank Conservative, without whose repetitive pointless screeds these talk pages might be empty; I'd like to thank Andy Schlafly for abandoning Engineering, a field where he could actually hurt people; and last but not least, I'd like to thank nobs, the only one of them with the courage to actually step out of the CP police state to come comment in this open forum where nothing ever gets memory-holed. Semipenultimate (talk) 16:54, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Ken, I’m going tell you a little about myself which I hope will clarify things a bit. I’m a 38 year old male, working Sales and Marketing. I have a degree in political science and, after years of living in cities (overseas and in New Zealand) I have settled down in a small seaside town. I have a beautiful (by anyone’s standard) girlfriend who is originally from Seattle. I also have a wonderful 5 year old daughter. I have many friends and close family members. I am tall, dark and handsome - I’ve been compared to James Dean. I spend my free time walking the beach, writing a book (where’s your booklet?), reading and watching classic films as well as listening to and producing heavy techno. I live in one of the most secular nations in the world. Given all this do you really think you can make me weep? You clearly have no idea of your own pathetic nature. There is nothing you can do to make me feel anything less than content with my station in live. You have achieved nothing and don’t even have the spine to even try and debate people here. All you do is post gibberish one to a website that I am sure I alone read, for my own amusement. Good luck. Acei9 07:25, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Just blah blah blah from you still Ken. Same tired shit you have been repeating for 10 - 11 years now. Nothing changed, no booklet, no Project 200+, nothing new. Come here and engage. No, You're a coward. Acei9 09:36, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Now you're just repeating yourself. Same old nonsense for over 10 years. Acei9 10:19, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- How sad is it that he spent 15 hours of his Saturday spewing out the same nonsense? Also Ken, Karajou has never claimed you were multiple people, and none of the other admins have either. If you ask them to confirm they get blocked. Also, don’t run to Karajou, he’s the one who talked behind your back with the other admins about how nutty you are -2601:240:CB01:E890:B486:5EAF:C056:D319 (talk) 19:21, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- This shit has been going over a decade now. Ken has been spouting the same crap for since 2007 - 12 years give or take. In that time I have married, divorced, bought a house, sold a house, worked as a BDM, a digital marketing specialist, a marketing consultant and a freelance journalist (among other things). I started a business with my cousin which has now been valued at 1.2 Million (NZD of course). I have lived in London, Wellington, Auckland and spent time in Melbourne and Sydney for work. I have had a child who is now a beautiful, smart 5 year old enjoying her first year of school. I have been to South Africa 3 times, Germany, Amsterdam, The UK, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Japan, Norfolk Island and most recently a 5 week road trip from Seattle to San Diego and back through Nevada, Utah and Montana. Both my parents died, I got 2 new cars - crashing one which I was lucky to walk away from unscathed apart from a wicked headache. I quit drinking for awhile, gave up recreational drugs (I still take LSD from time to time) got a new girlfriend and am 52 pages deep into a book I am writing. I've laughed, loved, cried and screamed. I'm a different person than I was 12 years ago. And Ken...still pretending his a collective of people, editing the same website for hours and hours on end creating "atheism and ______" articles. How sad. Acei9 19:56, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- How sad is it that he spent 15 hours of his Saturday spewing out the same nonsense? Also Ken, Karajou has never claimed you were multiple people, and none of the other admins have either. If you ask them to confirm they get blocked. Also, don’t run to Karajou, he’s the one who talked behind your back with the other admins about how nutty you are -2601:240:CB01:E890:B486:5EAF:C056:D319 (talk) 19:21, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Now you're just repeating yourself. Same old nonsense for over 10 years. Acei9 10:19, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Ace, who is most well known for being vain about his appearance? Is it Satan?!!![15][16] You know what they say, don't you? Like father, like son! See: Atheism and satanic deception.Conservative (talk) 17:02, 14 April 2019 (EDT)--Mercian (talk) 21:40, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- A son of Satan eh? Well there's something to write home about. Man it is easy to work Ken up. He is plastering me all over CP at the moment. Andy must be loving it. Acei9 21:45, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- I have found the best way to shut him up is to remind him of his views of the victims of The Manchester Arena bombings. Like Islamic terrorist like Christian fundamentalist idiot. A bit harsh I agree but if he can compare someone to the Devil it's fair game IMO--Mercian (talk) 21:48, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- I don't want him to shut-up. I'm in the office but my designer is away sick today so all my work has ground to a halt for the day because I am unable to complete my projects so have put off all my meetings until he is back. Need something to keep me occupied and needling Ken will have to do. Acei9 21:55, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Oh and I completely forgot - I traveled though New York, Miami, The Bahamas, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Brazil and Argentina. All that and the above since Ken started editing at CP. How much of the world have you seen Ken? Have you ever left Buffalo? A you allowed to go out by yourself? Acei9 22:30, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Ken, that's so cute. You really think you are causing me some level of concern. How sweet. Acei9 23:48, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Jesus man, are you still fucking going Ken? Plastering me all over CP - I go away for a few hours and you're still at it. While I'm flattered you should have probably put this much effort into the booklet. Then you'd have at least something to show for 2 years babbling about the QE! Campaign. Acei9 07:35, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Ken, that's so cute. You really think you are causing me some level of concern. How sweet. Acei9 23:48, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Oh and I completely forgot - I traveled though New York, Miami, The Bahamas, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Brazil and Argentina. All that and the above since Ken started editing at CP. How much of the world have you seen Ken? Have you ever left Buffalo? A you allowed to go out by yourself? Acei9 22:30, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- I don't want him to shut-up. I'm in the office but my designer is away sick today so all my work has ground to a halt for the day because I am unable to complete my projects so have put off all my meetings until he is back. Need something to keep me occupied and needling Ken will have to do. Acei9 21:55, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- I have found the best way to shut him up is to remind him of his views of the victims of The Manchester Arena bombings. Like Islamic terrorist like Christian fundamentalist idiot. A bit harsh I agree but if he can compare someone to the Devil it's fair game IMO--Mercian (talk) 21:48, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- A son of Satan eh? Well there's something to write home about. Man it is easy to work Ken up. He is plastering me all over CP at the moment. Andy must be loving it. Acei9 21:45, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Ladies and Gentlemen, Andrew Schlafly, engineer AND lawyer[edit]
Regarding the 'miracle' Loretto spiral staircase, Andy comments that "Snopes also implies that the original staircase was unsafe because it lacked a hand-railing, but that obviously misses the point since a hand-railing was trivial to add when desired". First of all, what 'point' is that missing? Second, it wasn't unsafe because safety features were easily added later? Like Takata airbags aren't unsafe because they can be replaced? A fail as an engineer, because a design that needs to have safety features retrofitted is by definition an unsafe design. A fail as a lawyer, because what difference does it make how easy it was to retrofit the handrail? If it was super, super hard to add the handrail, would that make the original design safer or less safe? That doesn't affect how risky the staircase was to use before the railing was put up. 'Look at my electric mangler, with all its exposed wiring and gears and belts and pinch points. It's perfectly safe, and I can prove it because it only takes 30 seconds to put in in another room where nobody is allowed to go, ever.' Jeez, a double threat as engineer and attorney. No wonder he got shitcanned from AT&T.--Martin Arrowsmith (talk) 01:17, 15 April 2019 (UTC)