Conservapedia talk:What is going on at CP?/Archive143
Andy, the Dancemix[edit]
Here you go. It's not as spectacular as it should be, but I only went through the first mp3. Maybe I'll do the other one sometime soonish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U07GIWybRr8 If you want the mp3, mail me.
- YOU PROMISED ME AUTO-TUNE, ASSHOLE — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 18:09, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, somebody needs to do an "Autotune the Andy" version, in Autotune the News style. That would be pure AWESOME. --127․0․0․1 18:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Here's an autotuned version, although I'm not sure how they pull off that severe autotuning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtR1VwCZBN8 -Lardashe
- haha, thanks. — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 18:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- You need to feed it a MIDI line. It's the smooooOOOoooooOOOOooke! --127․0․0․1 18:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- I want to see Andy Stole the Precious Conservapedia. ENorman 18:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Now I'm imagining Chibi-Andy. I hate you. :) --Gulik 21:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- I regret that I just spent the last hour and half putting together a horrible horrible conversation between Andy and his mother that I will not share until I can figure out how to trigger pitch correction in garageband to a midi source. Thanks for nothing.
User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 22:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Garageband is shit. I'd recommend Logic Pro v8, I've spent the last year using it and it's great. SJ Debaser 13:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- In fairness Superjosh/Russian Mafia, LP8 is five times the price of Garageband. And LP8 doesn't even come with the ability to print photo calendars for your Gran, an essential tool for any DJ or remixer. DogPMarmite Patrol 14:14, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- I forgot about the calendar maker. Logic Pro's more advanced, but Garageband is easily sufficient for this job. Very well done, I loved the splicing along the lines of "Conservapedia's got pornography, it excites the students." SJ Debaser 15:34, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Pitch correction in GB appears to not allow you to "play" a voice as an instrument as with Logic vocal transformer or Auto Tune plugins. So I'll see about buying or borrowing Logic cuz it looks rad, but don't forget that GB is free with a Mac. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 15:49, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, but then you have to own a mac. That's a fate worse than death. Next thing you know, it's five AM and you're standing out front of the Apple store with all the other douches, waiting to buy the latest iShite. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 18:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Pitch correction in GB appears to not allow you to "play" a voice as an instrument as with Logic vocal transformer or Auto Tune plugins. So I'll see about buying or borrowing Logic cuz it looks rad, but don't forget that GB is free with a Mac.
- I forgot about the calendar maker. Logic Pro's more advanced, but Garageband is easily sufficient for this job. Very well done, I loved the splicing along the lines of "Conservapedia's got pornography, it excites the students." SJ Debaser 15:34, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- In fairness Superjosh/Russian Mafia, LP8 is five times the price of Garageband. And LP8 doesn't even come with the ability to print photo calendars for your Gran, an essential tool for any DJ or remixer. DogPMarmite Patrol 14:14, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Garageband is shit. I'd recommend Logic Pro v8, I've spent the last year using it and it's great. SJ Debaser 13:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- I regret that I just spent the last hour and half putting together a horrible horrible conversation between Andy and his mother that I will not share until I can figure out how to trigger pitch correction in garageband to a midi source. Thanks for nothing.
- Now I'm imagining Chibi-Andy. I hate you. :) --Gulik 21:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- I want to see Andy Stole the Precious Conservapedia. ENorman 18:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- You need to feed it a MIDI line. It's the smooooOOOoooooOOOOooke! --127․0․0․1 18:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
The segmented mp3s are all up on line here on RW now (Conservapedia:Andy Schlafly on Eagle Forum Live) if people want to play with shorter bits. I also encourage you to link your virtuosity from the appropriate places... ħuman
18:57, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Somebody needs to make U.N. Owen Was Andy. Barikada 00:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Ed Poor never fails to amuse[edit]
this is so fundamentally stupid that it makes my eyes bleed. Ace McWickedi9 21:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hahahaha. Classic Ed, unleashing a torrent of stupidity. --PitchBlackMind 22:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Faith and a partial lobotomy Rad McCool 01:31, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- A Bible? DogPMarmite Patrol 02:40, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Expertise in Palaeography, Christian studies (Dogmas not found in Bible/NT), Jewish studies (Dogmas not found in Bible/OT), Koine Greek(NT Language), Aramaic(NT Language), Hebrew(OT Language), History of civilization(Old Earth only), Physics/dating methods (which books in the bible are authentic and which aren't, unless you go by the Canon and it's simply a decree), ancient mythology (What did the devil put in to test our faith), recent History (4004 BCE to present, especially after 7 BCE), so there is no expert for the Bible. Ed
- That, or Bible+faith+full lobotomy. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 02:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- No, you're all wrong. All you need is a low word to content ratio!™ Junggai 11:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- That, or Bible+faith+full lobotomy. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 02:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Conservative Rappers[edit]
Yes, they're as bad as you'd expect. Czolgolz 04:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- This has been posted somewhere else already, I think. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 13:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- L & G, try and keep non-CP-related stuff off this page. This page is for current events in Conservapedasylum. Even general stuff about CP should go elsewhere.
ГенгисYou have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you. 13:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- The shorter one looks like one of Andy's students. xD Ke
klik 18:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- The shorter one looks like one of Andy's students. xD Ke
- L & G, try and keep non-CP-related stuff off this page. This page is for current events in Conservapedasylum. Even general stuff about CP should go elsewhere.
House, Obama send condolences[edit]
Maybe it's just me, but Andy almost makes it sound like they're doing something dirty. --PsyGremlinWhut? 14:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- You know, when I read "House, Obama send condolences" my first thought was "Why are Hugh Laurie and Obama getting together on something?" Silly brain. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 18:37, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- To be fair, that went through my mind again. I'm pretty sure there is no fictional character Assfly would hate more than House.
sshole 19:27, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- To be fair, that went through my mind again. I'm pretty sure there is no fictional character Assfly would hate more than House.
The Imaginary 'Textbook'[edit]
It's quite amazing that they can tell us that CP has apparently been cited by a 'textbook' and yet can't provide that oh so minor piece of information...which one? Jammy 22:30, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Well, it was a sunday-school textbook, so it might well have been something somebody at the church put together--Gather a bunch of stuff off the Internet, put it on a flash drive, take it down to Kinko's for printing and binding. Likely as not somebody who knows Andy, knows what he does, knows he teaches sunday school, knows he'd be reading the textbook. Maybe his wife. If it were a "real" textbook Andy would no doubt have mentioned the title in order to better impress us all; he knows that citing a homemade pamphlet is damning with faint praise ("Hey! My best friend Bob mentioned me on the sheet of paper he ran through the ditto machine!").--WJThomas 22:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Here's a thought, too: Andy sez that he was teaching about the Book of Daniel when he ran across something interesting about the French Revolution. What does the former have to do with the latter?--WJThomas 23:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- It was an insight, you liberal vandal! ħuman 02:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ken was jabbering about the French Revolution and a search engine starting with G some months ago. Ace McWickedi9 02:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- It was an insight, you liberal vandal! ħuman
- Here's a thought, too: Andy sez that he was teaching about the Book of Daniel when he ran across something interesting about the French Revolution. What does the former have to do with the latter?--WJThomas 23:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Ken's Insanity[edit]
Why does tehassfly allow Ken to edit the main page? I mean seriously, have a look at it in its current state. The (far) right bar is a relatively neat section of news and appropriately sized images, and then you scroll down the left to see a variety of random images with word soup underneath them. Who, in their right mind, would visit CP's homepage for the first time and think it was a serious site? Crundy 13:50, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- They really need to archive their news items. I scrolled down the page and I think the output alone would put enough people off thinking it a real site. Just look at the picture of Hitler and Darwin spliced together. You'd have to be retarded to think that a real picture. SJ Debaser 13:55, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- You're asking the wrong question. The Arsefly has never taken a lead role in the site, he isn't interested in the day to day running of it, it's administration or the minutiae of how it ought to be organised. He'll actively ignore anyone who endeavours to get him to make a decision. All that stuff has been delegated in perpetuity to the other "senior admins", which in practice these days means to TK. They've lost almost anyone who knew anything about making templates and other shiny navigation aids, so CP is never going to get any better than it is now. The correct question is, why doesn't TK beat on kendoll the way he does everyone else? The only reason I can think of is that kendoll does almost as good a job at destroying CP as TK does. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 13:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- Almost? He manages to do it better! The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 15:43, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- Again, I express regret at not finding Conservapedia a year or two ago when it was all-go with debate and slightly less banhammering and moar hilarious Andy-related antics. SJ Debaser 14:05, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- Jeeves: Personally I'd muster a guess that TK hates Ken as much as anyone, and every time he sees one of his monumental fail additions to the homepage he gets a bit angry (and goes off and starts an argument with a rookie contributor) but never says anything. I can only think that kennyken is one of tehassfly's better loved bitches and even TK isn't stupid enough to block him knowing that andeh would just overturn it. It must make TK's blood boil every time Ken makes an edit. It's quite a lovely thought really. Crundy 15:23, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- You're asking the wrong question. The Arsefly has never taken a lead role in the site, he isn't interested in the day to day running of it, it's administration or the minutiae of how it ought to be organised. He'll actively ignore anyone who endeavours to get him to make a decision. All that stuff has been delegated in perpetuity to the other "senior admins", which in practice these days means to TK. They've lost almost anyone who knew anything about making templates and other shiny navigation aids, so CP is never going to get any better than it is now. The correct question is, why doesn't TK beat on kendoll the way he does everyone else? The only reason I can think of is that kendoll does almost as good a job at destroying CP as TK does. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 13:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
As was revealed when they opened the SDG I think they all find Ken irritating and think he's a bit of a tit, but Andy has a sneaking respect for his inexplicable ability to achieve good Google rankings with his articles. StarFish 15:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- He's fiddeling with the main page again. Always promissing something coming soon but every time - every time! - it's a bitter dissapointment. I wish he would point to something that's actually happened rather than empty promises that never amount to anything. He always gets my hopes up for something really funny then - nothing. And yes, I love the pictures on main page. Sadly Ken's pictures are about the only really funny thing left on CP. More Ken. Please more. Can we have the Hitler/Darwin/Parrot 'we love eveolutionary racism' picture back please? Please?? StarFish 15:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, he got rid of the bullfighting, creationist seagulls and the windmill. Now it only looks like a flange of five or six drunken baboons were let loose on the main page, rather than an even dozen. For your next trick, Kendoll, you can actually archive the news. You know, we have bots to do these sorts of things. It's a shame all your cohorts are morons. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 15:50, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think TK or any of them "hate" Ken, it's more like the Oh No! reaction of the centurion in Life of Brian when Biggus Dickus decides to read out the list of prisoners. ГенгисYou have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you. 17:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- Wait, did I just influence a change on the homepage to make Conservapedia a better place? I must be punished. Please excuse me whilst I whip my back with a cat-o-nine tails. Also, how come TK and Ken don't get banned for looking here when everyone else does? Crundy 21:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- Terry Koeckritz, Ken, JPatti, Rob, Addison...Jinxy Baby?hi?...lots of them are avid readers. — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 15:59, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Wait, did I just influence a change on the homepage to make Conservapedia a better place? I must be punished. Please excuse me whilst I whip my back with a cat-o-nine tails. Also, how come TK and Ken don't get banned for looking here when everyone else does? Crundy 21:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think TK or any of them "hate" Ken, it's more like the Oh No! reaction of the centurion in Life of Brian when Biggus Dickus decides to read out the list of prisoners.
- Wow, he got rid of the bullfighting, creationist seagulls and the windmill. Now it only looks like a flange of five or six drunken baboons were let loose on the main page, rather than an even dozen. For your next trick, Kendoll, you can actually archive the news. You know, we have bots to do these sorts of things. It's a shame all your cohorts are morons. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 15:50, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I would like to say how disappointed I am in the new, disimproved Main Page at CP. It could take months before we have it as good as it has recently been. Shame on you Crundy. DogPMarmite Patrol 22:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- Dear god, they've all gone. Maybe I should post something about there being not nearly enough hot chicks sucking my dick... Crundy 13:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Uhh, is this the conversation about the Google crap? Cause I checked mine, but I couldn't find it on the first 10 pages. Dx Ke
klik 18:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)- No no, I mentioned how shit the front page looks because of Ken's weird random images with messages about Google ranking / CP evalgalists, and so he deleted them all, thus making the site look more professional and less insane. I'm thoroughly ashamed with myself. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 20:30, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Uhh, is this the conversation about the Google crap? Cause I checked mine, but I couldn't find it on the first 10 pages. Dx Ke
TerryH, just another "Liar and vandal"[edit]
According to JPratt anyway, who deletes the articles "Template talk:Nb Atlas", "Azariah III" and "Hoshea (high priest)",using "Vandalism / lies" as his reason. All very well and fine, until you look at the wanted articles and realise these were well linked articles and b) he's been crapping all over TerryH's work at listing everybody in the Bible. I guess the parodist's mask is starting to slip a little, or he really is a semi-literate cunt, who doesn't know what he's doing. --PsyGremlinWhut? 10:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- It may seem unbelievable but all the evidence I have perused, including Twitter tweets and other stuff, has pointed overwhelmingly to the latter conclusion. Andy must be able to enforce action at a distance and mysteriously draws these societal misfits to him. In the old days they would have been tolerated as village idiots but now they think they're intelligent people and deserve to be listened to and respected. Nowadays it may not be politically correct to mock the afflicted but one can't help sniggering at them. (BTW Arthur Figgis=Ed Poor). Генгисevolving 11:57, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- You take back that slur against the good name of Arthur Figgis now, or i shall have to ask you to step outside. Actually, I've always thought of them more as Upper Class Twits, (although slack-jawed, rather than chinless), saying thing unintelligibly. Like Andy: "Mummy is a right wing harlot and uses me as a waste paper bin." Terry: "I know Ed Meese and Daddy won the Kentucky Derby." --PsyGremlinWhut? 12:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Did we forget about Hanlon's razor? Never attribute to malice if it can be sufficiently explained by stupidity. Nobody at CP is attempting to do bad things, it just the things that occurs naturally when you put a bunch of stupid people together. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 13:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- No, but we also remember Bush's Collorary (sp?): "Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice." --Gulik 18:36, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Did we forget about Hanlon's razor? Never attribute to malice if it can be sufficiently explained by stupidity. Nobody at CP is attempting to do bad things, it just the things that occurs naturally when you put a bunch of stupid people together. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 13:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- You take back that slur against the good name of Arthur Figgis now, or i shall have to ask you to step outside. Actually, I've always thought of them more as Upper Class Twits, (although slack-jawed, rather than chinless), saying thing unintelligibly. Like Andy: "Mummy is a right wing harlot and uses me as a waste paper bin." Terry: "I know Ed Meese and Daddy won the Kentucky Derby." --PsyGremlinWhut? 12:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Mainpage right leech[edit]
So Ken now has to keep his current events news items at the top of the page. After posting this item about "Obamageddon" he reposts it again one week later. And both are still on the main page. 
ГенгисIs the Pope a Catholic? 15:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- I also liked Ken's shoutout to Trent as he increased his picture size by 1 pixel. Twice. The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 16:09, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- I also saw that. Either Ken's either so ignorant about wiki-formatting that he thinks everyone will see the results of his puffery in exactly the same detail, or he does it deliberately to be seen in the RC list. I fear that the latter is the case. ГенгисRationalWiki GOLD member 16:25, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- I, for one, would be pleased to see Kenny given complete and sole control over CP's front page.--WJThomas 16:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Nothing Ken does pleases me. He very obviously needs psychiatric care and I hope he gets it. I fear the man will simply disappear some day and nobody but us will even acknowledge he's gone. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 16:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Anyone who is still living with his mom (Hi! TerryK!) and in his late forties obviously has relationship issues.
- Nothing Ken does pleases me. He very obviously needs psychiatric care and I hope he gets it. I fear the man will simply disappear some day and nobody but us will even acknowledge he's gone.
- I, for one, would be pleased to see Kenny given complete and sole control over CP's front page.--WJThomas 16:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- I also saw that. Either Ken's either so ignorant about wiki-formatting that he thinks everyone will see the results of his puffery in exactly the same detail, or he does it deliberately to be seen in the RC list. I fear that the latter is the case.
- I also liked Ken's shoutout to Trent as he increased his picture size by 1 pixel. Twice. The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 16:09, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Генгисunbelieving 17:06, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Wait a minute. Isn't that the latest manifestation of 2012 apocalypse? [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 16:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
The sniper video[edit]
Seems to be walking the line of a threat of violence to me, since I was the one he was stalking all day today, he ends it with that? Hmmm.....tmtoulouse 04:47, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Links? ħuman 04:57, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- On WIGO. tmtoulouse 04:59, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- You mean Ken's newfound love ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ for you? Or something else? ħuman 06:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Please don't tell me he was seriously trying to post a picture in his edit summary! Aborted Fetus 09:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Trent, given Ken's erratic behavior, marathon editing sessions, and general incoherence, I would assume nothing. I thought Ken crossed the line yesterday and would have feared for my safety. Internet name-calling and shenanigans are one thing. Talking about stalking (while actually doing it) and referring to trained killers is quite another. I would have called the police if I knew that Ken DeMeyer is his real name and he actually lives in Buffalo. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 14:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Trent, given Ken's erratic behavior, marathon editing sessions, and general incoherence, I would assume nothing. I thought Ken crossed the line yesterday and would have feared for my safety. Internet name-calling and shenanigans are one thing. Talking about stalking (while actually doing it) and referring to trained killers is quite another. I would have called the police if I knew that Ken DeMeyer is his real name and he actually lives in Buffalo.
- Please don't tell me he was seriously trying to post a picture in his edit summary! Aborted Fetus 09:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- You mean Ken's newfound love ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ for you? Or something else? ħuman
- On WIGO. tmtoulouse 04:59, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Ugh, it's getting incestuous over there. Youtube video is awesome! Conservapedia is awesome! Youtube video saying conservapedia is awesome is awesome! Conservapedia saying my youtube video saying conservapedia is awesome is awesome is awesome! Where will it end? --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 09:57, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- It is amusing that he thinks somehow that his search ranking business is in any way influencing science in Canada or anywhere else. --Kels 17:42, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
A helping hand for TK[edit]
Seeing as you're graduating to deleting pages at a whim, as well as blocking every editor in sight. Judge Dredd pop culture? I would have though he was the most conservative film icon you could get 9he's pro death penalty, anyway), since St Ronnie (or are you just jealous you don't look as nice in all that black leather?). Anyway, if you're going to remove all the pop culture from CP, then here's a list to start with:
- Star Trek (don't forget all of Ed's live-blogged episodes)
- Category: Movies
- Category:Harry Potter Movies
- Category:Science Fiction Movies
- Category:Animated Movies (especially those nasty Ghibli ones Uncle Ed shows to the kids he's
groomingteaching.
Lead on, McDuff.
Oh and the next time you try and instigate an off-line e-mail conversation with somebody who could be a minor, I am going to start investigating how to lay a COPPA complaint against Andy and CP. Not you, but Andy as the site owner. --PsyGremlinWhut? 15:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- It's too bad Ed didn't create a page about Pom Poko. I'd like to hear his thoughts about the adorable raccoons use their giant nutsacks to knock people unconscious. --GTac 18:25, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Traditionally, giant testicals have been a comic symbol of impotence. Probably hit a bit too close to home for "Call me Uncle" Ed. --Kels 18:46, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Jackson[edit]
So TK deleted the Jackson talk page. Anyone know what he was trying to hide? SirChuckBObama/Biden? 2012 19:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- There was an interesting little nugget he posted that I think he did in error which maybe Andy wouldn't have been to happy with. OncomingStorm 20:16, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the update...er, OncomingStorm. ГенгисOur ignorance is God; what we know is science. 20:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- So what was the nugget? That when he was younger, TK used to dress up like MJ and moonwalk around his mother's house while singing Pretty Young Thing?--WJThomas 20:56, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- I used to mop a Pizza Hut floor to the strains of Beat It and Electric Avenue... good times (not). ħuman 22:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- I used to mop a Pizza Hut floor to the strains of Beat It and Electric Avenue... good times (not). ħuman
- So what was the nugget? That when he was younger, TK used to dress up like MJ and moonwalk around his mother's house while singing Pretty Young Thing?--WJThomas 20:56, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the update...er, OncomingStorm.
Peas in a Pod, or 69? (for Jeeves)[edit]
Megalomaniacal Christian YouTuber (MCY) makes video slamming an atheist YouTuber. Kenny posts his approval under Breaking News. MCY posts video bragging about being mentioned on CP. Kenny posts notice of this as a video saying CP whups WP. MCY posts a video bragging about being mentioned on CP again. Kenny posts notice of this new video as expanded comparison of CP and WP. Ball's in your court, MCY...--WJThomas 20:56, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- If he plays his cards right balls will be in more than just his court ;) --Opcn 22:03, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Just when you thought Ken had had an attack of common sense with his redaction of MainPageLeft, he bounces right back on MainPageRight with his Obamageddon/Oh Canada/Oh YouTuber posts. Great work, Kenny, baby. ГенгисOur ignorance is God; what we know is science. 22:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Now all we have to do is STFU and keep Crundy from complaining about it again. I still cry every day when I see no bullfighters or vultures on CP Main Page any more. I guess time heals everything. DogPMarmite Patrol 22:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm liking that he couldn't handle seeing the front page without all that bollocks spurted across it for more than a few days. I'm keeping shtum from now on :) CrundyTalk nerdy to me 13:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Now all we have to do is STFU and keep Crundy from complaining about it again. I still cry every day when I see no bullfighters or vultures on CP Main Page any more. I guess time heals everything. DogPMarmite Patrol 22:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Just when you thought Ken had had an attack of common sense with his redaction of MainPageLeft, he bounces right back on MainPageRight with his Obamageddon/Oh Canada/Oh YouTuber posts. Great work, Kenny, baby.
While you were sleeping...[edit]
Rob, meet RJJensen. --Sid 23:08, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- I swear, any more unwritten rules and that place will cease to exist. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 23:13, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Their new way of hiding blocks (TK LeoS Userpage misfire)[edit]
This is like as if the block never happened. Only if you don't bother checking out the name they are renaming to. More ways of them accusing us for the liberal deceit. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 01:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Nah, its nothing that devious, they are trying to get around the fact that every first name last initila is getting used up. tmtoulouse 01:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- This is paranoia about the Conservapedia:Unusable names article. They are sure we are trying to use up all the available username-space. I would expect to see more of this. - π 01:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- More lulz if you put it that way. And then they block people of "having previous records of vandalism" without the user ever knowing it. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 01:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- That is a good point. We might be able to reuse old handles and see if they remember having blocked them or whether they just took time off. - π 01:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- More lulz if you put it that way. And then they block people of "having previous records of vandalism" without the user ever knowing it. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 01:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- This is paranoia about the Conservapedia:Unusable names article. They are sure we are trying to use up all the available username-space. I would expect to see more of this. - π 01:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Anyone ever come up with a connect-four or tic-tac-toe like game to play with Conservapedia:Unusable names? Perhaps come up with Hollywood Squares type qualities depending on who blocks you. Teabag 03:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- I can think of a blockbusters style game for Conservapedia blocking. You start with a set of hexes filled with random letters like regular blockbusters, one player plays top to bottom and another left to right. Each player takes it in turns to select an unoccupied letter from the board and an unblocked user whose name starts with that letter. If the user is blocked within 24 hours, you get to claim that hex. The winner is the person who creates an unbroken line of hexes between their two sides. Players aren't allowed to create socks for the purposes of game play, or select their own socks. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 11:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Do our colonial cousins understand Blockbusters? Should it not be part of the game that one side plays solo and the other as a pair? Silver Sloth 12:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Ken wasn't kidding[edit]
I suspect those of you who aren't Canadians have heard nothing about this, due to your liberal mainstream media, but the Canadian Internet have been completely overrun by creationism in an operation called
Operation Erotic Gramophone. Remember "the internet is a series of tubes"? From Alaska's standpoint, this is literally true, as the Canadian Internet is a system of hydraulic tubes filled with maple syrup and poutine. We are on the defensive, the situation is grim and grows grimmer by the minute, as it turns out our Science Minister was a creationist plant, a pawn of chess master Ruy Lopez. Our stalwart lumberjacks and mounties are valiantly attempting to repair the holes in the internet trunk (a pipeline running through British Columbia from Alaska to Washington), gouged by bulls manipulated by creationist matadors. Please send help! We've run out of supplies and are now using spam to fill the leaks, and it's only a matter of time until the crusading creationists reach the Central Pumping Nexus, codenamed the "Evolutionary Paradigm." 
21:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Update: They have cheetahs! God save·········· the HELL is th··········hybrid monsters···········reanimated Hitl·····looks like····rwin····*static* 21:19, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Quickly! Capture Sarah Palin and threaten to release her into the Lower 48 unless Ken stops!! The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 21:19, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- See? You mock me and my hamburger syndrome, but it is I who will have the last laugh against the lies of evolution! Canada has fallen, and nowhere is safe! Ole ole ole! Kendoll 21:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Sir! We're receiving an incoming message from Canada-
Liberals are the conspiracy theories![edit]Anyone remember how Andy likes to go on about how liberals are always believing in conspiracy theories? Well, early Sunday morning I was woken by a knock-knock at my front door. I dragged myself up from my hangover and mumbled what bad and stupid idea I thought it was to think about getting up. But I answered the door and found my half brother on the doorstep. This was unusual because I thought he was in Brazil. So I let him in and we had a few pre-lunch beers. During our conversation he started spouting anti-Obama conspiracy theories. I listened politely. After he left I watched a movie at his suggestion. It was called The Obama Deception and within minutes I could see where it was going. Typical New World Order/Illuminati brain fodder. The movie went on about a shadowy junta called The Bildeberg Group. After doing a little research I discovered this -
Well the way I read it, The Bilderberger posse are liberals engaged in deceit and they a deceiving the god honest Republicans. Thank heavens she was there to point it out. Rad McCool 01:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
hee hee.[edit]lol - I think this counts as a good thing, but just seen that a certain article (beginning with "G" - or maybe not) at CP is linking to my blog as a reference. Won't mention it just yet, because I want to watch Terry and JFuckHead going mad trying to find it. and let me add some more liberal bias to said article in the meantime. --PsyGremlinWhut? 10:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
I'll go you one better, and be more specific: In one of the articles that FOIA has spent so much time referencing and linking, a couple of the links (which appear completely innocuous on their face) go to places that are very very very naughty indeed. Very naughty. --WJThomas 12:52, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
AddisonDM[edit]Anyone have any idea what is behind AddisonDM's recent willingness to challenge Andy on his intellectual dishonesty? First the williness to challenge the Great Teacher on his ridiculous views about radioactive decay and plate tectonics, and now this: http://conservapedia.com/User_talk:Aschlafly#Sunday_school_book Addison no longer seems quite the clockwork orange. What happens when he bans one of his students? Kaalis 17:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
The big assault on Canada revealed![edit]Try and guess the friendimg that brought Denyse O'Leary's attention to the article! Such a high profile blog outta really drive the traffic! Now I know why I should be scared. tmtoulouse 05:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
"Unidrected evolution"? Whassat?
Attention creationist nut jobs the world over[edit] Gentlemen RationalWiki's article for Denyse O'Leary is flying high on Google Canada with a top 10 result for the unpopular search Denyse O'Leary. It is number 2 on Goggle, Google New Zealand and Google Australia. In addition it is number 3 on Google UK. Crappy bloggers will not survive on the internet. :) - π 11:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Gentlemen of a
Check THIS out! Thanks for proving intelligent design, Denyse O'Leary! The Foxhole Atheist 14:58, 1 July 2009 (UTC) He is still plagiarizing?[edit]I saw TK created a "new" article and just for old times sake googled the opening line, sure enough it is plagiarized from a copyrighted source. tmtoulouse 22:42, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Specific incidents of plagiarism from Wikipedia should be noted at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/Abc#Conservapedia . - Cuckoo 13:15, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Schade[edit]Aw, Ketklik's been blocked again (this time as JonathanG). Shame, I like him.-- Kriss AkabusiAAAWOOOGAAAR!!1 08:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Bring back short blocks[edit]IPs aside, you now have to go a long way back through the block log to find a block of less than five years. The only exceptions, weirdly, are 'recreate your account with a better name' blocks from JPatt, which tend to be only 3 months for some reason. They should bring back the shorter blocks.-- Kriss AkabusiAAAWOOOGAAAR!!1 13:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Over the last six month, blocks shorter than five years for an editor virtually didn't happen: The single dots in the wp:Boxplot show outliers... Before 2009 in almost every month a significant portion of the blocks were shorter than five years. Usually shorter blocks are sufficient: only ~50% (try to) come back from a one-day-block...
larronsicut fur in nocte 23:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Not really worth a WIGO[edit]But "word poverty | | popularized by President George W. Bush" - I wondered if Dubya was the example of "word poverty". This message brought to you by:
Liberals controlling elections[edit]So, according to Andy and Slate, when large corporations donate lots of money to candidates, conservatives win, and when they don't, liberals win. I'm not sure which of these is more democratic. Hmmm.... Z3rotalk 17:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Math![edit]There's been so little going on at CP lately that I was beginning to despair, but it looks like the great leader is ready to take on maths again! Or at least arithmetic. Look here, plus some earlier edits today in Talk:Mathematics. I have a feeling this is going to be fun. I'm especially looking forward to some wiki-fighting over liberally-biased mathematics. --Simple 00:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Please help RE: RobSmith WIGO on Edwards sex tape[edit]I am very tired and not feeling well, please verify for me that RobS pulled the "cocaine addicted prostitute" bit out of thin air and I am not suffering from dementia. 76.105.223.232 03:54, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
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- on top of the pic, you'll find the number of blocked editors per month, and in brackets the percentage of infinite/indefinite blocks
- in the gray area, these numbers are visualized :-)
- keep in mind that the y-axis for the boxplots is logarithmic!
- thanks to User:Pibot July 2009 is even now in the top 5 of the months with the most blocks...
- have fun!
larronsicut fur in nocte 12:53, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- LArron, you have done it again. Hats off to you my friend. Ace McWickedi9 12:56, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! It's nice to find some appreciation - especially without the usual qualifiers á là Why am I not mentioned, When is the pic updated, What's wrong with... larronsicut fur in nocte 19:34, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Push to 100M by on July 4 5 Status Page[edit]
I spent the last couple hours cobbling together a bot to monitor the CP statistics page and provide an ongoing report about how we are doing. The stats are updated every minute and the current rate of progress is based only on the last hour of data. Currently we are lagging far behind. Fedhaji 12:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- We don't need stats updated every minute. Oncce a day is sufficient. Otherwise it floods our recent changes and I'll have to vandalbin it. ГенгисIs the Pope a Catholic? 12:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I requested it be flagged as a bot, which means that it shouldn't clutter up RC at all. Fedhaji 12:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- That's better. But it still doesn't need to update every minute. Surely hourly would do? ГенгисOur ignorance is God; what we know is science. 12:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I have changed it to every hour, averaging over the past day. I intended for it to be fairly quick to respond to changes in the overall rate, but I guess you are right. Fedhaji 12:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- That's better. But it still doesn't need to update every minute. Surely hourly would do?
- I requested it be flagged as a bot, which means that it shouldn't clutter up RC at all. Fedhaji 12:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Anybody know if history views count as page views in this context? Mountain Blue 12:33, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- We need WesleyS back over there, categorizing and finding links for orphaned pages. They would have easily hit 100M views already. Aboriginal Noise What the ... 13:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, no idea what you're talking about. What am I missing? Mountain Blue 13:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- When I was at CP, as WesleyS, I made like 8500 edits in 5 months. Aboriginal Noise What the ... 13:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I had my computer running all night, viewed 15,000 pages, is there any chance the bot could be modified to feed out when we will finish at this rate? --Opcn 14:34, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not a communist or anything but I don't really understand the point in this. Is it just for a bit of a laugh? I would have thought if they reach 100M Andy will be the one laughing? I feel sure I'm missing something obvious here. StarFish 15:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- It's to see Andy's reaction. 100 million site views will instantly gratify and embolden him. It will become serious business, and the true insightz will flow like wine.
- I'm not a communist or anything but I don't really understand the point in this. Is it just for a bit of a laugh? I would have thought if they reach 100M Andy will be the one laughing? I feel sure I'm missing something obvious here. StarFish 15:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I had my computer running all night, viewed 15,000 pages, is there any chance the bot could be modified to feed out when we will finish at this rate? --Opcn 14:34, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- When I was at CP, as WesleyS, I made like 8500 edits in 5 months. Aboriginal Noise What the ... 13:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, no idea what you're talking about. What am I missing? Mountain Blue 13:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- We need WesleyS back over there, categorizing and finding links for orphaned pages. They would have easily hit 100M views already. Aboriginal Noise What the ... 13:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I was thinking about notifying local New Jersey news networks. — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 16:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- What, are you from New Jersey? Stupid bastard Phantom! 16:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- No, but I was thinking that might not come up... "Hi, I'm calling to report the wild success of New Jersey local Andrew Schlafly's on-line encyclopedia, which recently surpassed the amazing milestone of up serving 100 million page views of Christian, family-friendly truth. I thought it might be appropriate for you to do a story on this local hero." Something to that effect. — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 16:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- What, are you from New Jersey? Stupid bastard Phantom! 16:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I was thinking about notifying local New Jersey news networks. — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 16:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I do not condone any sort of wandalism / page bumping. That said, one should recall Andy's consternation when the last wiki upgrade was done. The page count is stored individually for each page, and for the site. Different counters - but they get updated at the same time. When a page is deleted, it doesn't reduce the site counter by that much. However, when the wiki software is updated, the site counter is set to the sum of the page counters. Andy was a bit disappointed to see the page count for the site drop (I think he called it a liberal counting scheme or something like that, though by all accounts, it is likely a more conservative one). If one was to bump the site count with a page that would be deleted for having too high a page count and Andy trumpets the 10M number, when the software is upgraded and it drops below 10M (anyone want to do the actual count? I know a number of high volume pages have been deleted) we can once again enjoy his disappointment at dropping below another imaginary number. --Shagie 16:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- For those of you wondering I use firefox with the iMacros add on, I set the macro to go to )i.e. click on) random page every time a page finishes loading. I also went under the edit menu to preferences, then to the content tab, and shutoff pictures javascript and java and that speeds it up and uses less bandwidth --Opcn 16:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sure it doesn't really matter, but I'd try to be a bit moar discreet. "If I was going to bump page views, this is how I would do it...etc...but of course, I wouldn't do that". — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 16:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Speaking of which, should those of us who might or might not be operating clickbots spread out the traffic among a number of pages or aim en masse for a single page (such as Law Terms D, per above discussion)? In the interest of traffic maximization in the face of burning, I think we should spread it out, but inflating a single embarrassing page of our choosing has a certain appeal. Also, is there a page (or pages) that contribute to view count but minimize server load? The number of views we might or might not be generating is around 4/sec, and we do not want to bring the site down or degrade it significantly. Fedhaji 17:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- In the interest of reducing bandwidth consumption on both ends, disabling image loading is an excellent route (especially if you're using Firefox & ReloadEvery, for example), or not accessing monstrous pages like Evolution or Alger Hiss. 17:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- In the interest of reducing bandwidth consumption on both ends, disabling image loading is an excellent route (especially if you're using Firefox & ReloadEvery, for example), or not accessing monstrous pages like Evolution or Alger Hiss.
- Speaking of which, should those of us who might or might not be operating clickbots spread out the traffic among a number of pages or aim en masse for a single page (such as Law Terms D, per above discussion)? In the interest of traffic maximization in the face of burning, I think we should spread it out, but inflating a single embarrassing page of our choosing has a certain appeal. Also, is there a page (or pages) that contribute to view count but minimize server load? The number of views we might or might not be generating is around 4/sec, and we do not want to bring the site down or degrade it significantly. Fedhaji 17:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sure it doesn't really matter, but I'd try to be a bit moar discreet. "If I was going to bump page views, this is how I would do it...etc...but of course, I wouldn't do that". — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 16:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
100 mil? cratcratcratcratcrat oh pleeeeeeeeeeez! The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 17:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Law terms D is a great target largely because there is so little on the page, but I think perhaps the whole law terms list might be a good idea. Just now D with out pictures took 2 seconds to load, I, C, and K all load in under half a second. If we tried with Alger Hiss then we would crash out the server and no one wants that, I used to hate the CP server, the one that was slow as mud, I do not want to recreate that experience for others. --Opcn 17:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Aren't we aiming 100 Mil on July 4th instead of by that day? [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 17:31, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. I am not sure how to manage this, though. I propose that everyone stops at, say, 6 hours before we hit the 100M mark, whenever that is, then we can sit and cool our jets until midnight EDT, July 4, and then make the final sprint in the early hours of the 4th. If I invested some time in making a nice GUI-licious downloadable tool to automatically do clicks and manage this throttling, would people download it? Fedhaji 17:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- As we get close to 100M we can slow down, if its the 3rd and we are at 97M there is so way we can make it --Opcn 17:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I wouldn't stop too close to 100M, as there is (surprisingly) actual web traffic on the site that may cause 100M to be achieved too early. Aboriginal Noise What the ... 17:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Having this occur on the 4th of July is a must. It will push Andy into a patriotic state of delirium...he will be completely overcome. The ensuing insights will be priceless. — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 17:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I am changing the section title now. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 17:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Having this occur on the 4th of July is a must. It will push Andy into a patriotic state of delirium...he will be completely overcome. The ensuing insights will be priceless. — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 17:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I wouldn't stop too close to 100M, as there is (surprisingly) actual web traffic on the site that may cause 100M to be achieved too early. Aboriginal Noise What the ... 17:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Bot back up[edit]
Bot was not tolerant of occasional HTTP errors and went down. Now it is back. Fedhaji 17:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Minor issue[edit]
I'll preface this by whining about how I'd don't approve of this sort of thing, especially using the wiki to discuss it. Which isn't to say that I don't find the goal funny. With those delightfully contradictory statements out of the way, aren't DoS attacks illegal? Not that this is one, and people are even actively trying to make sure they don't break the CP server (well, someone mentioned it, at least), but the activities might look like a DoS thing, which might have repercussions. I'm probably wrong, of course. I do acknowledge that this isn't "vandalism", or "trying to mess up a website", by the way. The "plan" is to actually give the site owner some more of what he likes to boast about, as far as I can tell. ħuman 19:49, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I mentioned that earlier. It's an awful lot of trouble to make Andy smile. --Kels 20:04, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I believe the current pace is just fine to satisfy the goal and the server's response is well within normal limits. — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 20:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I was curious about the legality as well. I don't think they're illegal in the US, but they are in Sweden and the UK. In any event, your ISP can get rid of you for doing it. Are there guidelines for what's appropriate for number of requests per second? User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 20:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Great. I clicked on the next CP link I saw and got "503: The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later." Coinkydink, I'm sure, but still... ħuman 20:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I saw that. But it's back up now. Fedhaji 20:46, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I was having a hard time reading articles because of that. I'm glad CP is back so I can keep reading. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 21:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I was having a hard time reading articles because of that. I'm glad CP is back so I can keep reading.
- I saw that. But it's back up now. Fedhaji 20:46, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Great. I clicked on the next CP link I saw and got "503: The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later." Coinkydink, I'm sure, but still... ħuman
- I was curious about the legality as well. I don't think they're illegal in the US, but they are in Sweden and the UK. In any event, your ISP can get rid of you for doing it. Are there guidelines for what's appropriate for number of requests per second?
- I believe the current pace is just fine to satisfy the goal and the server's response is well within normal limits. — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 20:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Slow Down!![edit]
I just got a 503 error on 7 out of 10 tries, we have to slow down, even if we cannot make it. Anyone who is working with random pages, or with Ken's homosexual anthologies has to stop permanently, stick to small pages please. Keeping CP up is more important than reaching 100M by the 4th --Opcn 21:48, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Andy is making threatening noises[edit]
This may just be a coincidence, but a half hour ago Andy created this, talking about the illegality of bots. He seems to be bothered by our 4th of July celebration. Now we've been through this before—it's in the archives somewhere—but CP is not a "protected computer" in the sense of Federal law. Also, there is no "intent to defraud", and there is no "obtain[ing] anything of value", and the value, if there were any, is not "more than $ 5,000", and that there is no intent to "obtain or alter information in the computer that the accesser is not entitled so to obtain or alter". But other than that, Andy is, as usual, right on target. Gauss 01:46, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- Andy read your own rules:
“”The operation of unauthorized wiki-bots is prohibited*. *Search engine and read only bots are exempt from this Commandment. To get authorization please post a note on User_talk:Aschlafly, stating what the bot will do, what username it will be under, and whether you have a working prototype. Bot owners are responsible for their bots' actions.
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- They are read only bots, but seriously if you are going to do this you can't interfere with the normal, smooth operation of the site. So keep the clicks down to a pace where you can't be reasonably accused of a DoS attack. - π 02:06, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- Also it says "exceeded authorized access", requesting a page does not exceeded authorized access, as any one can do that. - π 02:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
It's not a coincidence, TK told him the ebil librul vandal site was gonna run scripts to muck up his site. Who knows how much "truth" was involved in what TK told Andy, since We all (us and TK) know Andy doesn't read here, but presumably, Andy and others have been seeing the 503's too, and are konfused. TK explained. This reads like an episode of Schlafly Doo. But it's what is really happening. ħuman 02:29, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
“”Defendants need to something more than merely using a public website in the manner it was intended to be liable under the CFAA.
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- might be applicable but I don't understand what it means. ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER! DO YOU SPEAK IT? - π 02:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- Meanwhile, he has yet to respond to my formal complaint of accusation of fraud on his site by a senior admin... f'ing twerp. Certified letter goes out Monday if he ain't on it... ħuman 03:05, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, you can do that (Complaining to whom? Send a legal demand letter to Andy demanding to remove your name from the site? I would be surprised if he actually cares) ? No wonder everyone want to graduate from Law school. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 17:07, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- Meanwhile, he has yet to respond to my formal complaint of accusation of fraud on his site by a senior admin... f'ing twerp. Certified letter goes out Monday if he ain't on it... ħuman
- might be applicable but I don't understand what it means. ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER! DO YOU SPEAK IT? - π 02:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- Seriously though... would Andy really want to risk FBI II? Mountain Blue 03:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- Has Andy paid/lost anything of monetary value due to the FBI incident? I don't think so. Since this is FREE, I think he doesn't mind doing it again. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 14:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Would the FBI really care? I highly doubt it, I mean they would have to look into the complaint but any amount of researching would point to this not being a DoS attack or anything of the sort. Alot of wackos, CP included, make claims to the FBI and are filed in the wacko pile. No fear gents, gman has limited reasources and tends to spend them on more important issues. As long as WE keep it civil, we are golden.--DylanB 04:42, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- Has Andy paid/lost anything of monetary value due to the FBI incident? I don't think so. Since this is FREE, I think he doesn't mind doing it again. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 14:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- K: I don't think Andy has lost anything tangible; you don't need a lawyer to report people to law enforcement. Andy seems to be pretty embarrassed by the whole thing, however; even mentioning the FBI incident over at CP means instant banhammer. For some reason or other Andy understands how much he's humiliated himself with this particular fuckup, and I don't see him wanting to repeat the experience. Mountain Blue 05:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- Andy lost his marbles late December 2008 when he decided to let Terry Koeckritz back into the asylum. ГенгисRationalWiki GOLD member 22:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
- Andy lost his marbles late December 2008 when he decided to let Terry Koeckritz back into the asylum.
(UI) Moar Threatening noises from Andy. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 02:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- The thing is, refreshing isn't considered a DoS attack (was taught this in Routing I CCNA, Systems Analysis, and Web Design I). I think we're safe on that part as well. Ke
klik 20:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
A certain article has surpassed another certain article in page views on a certain website[edit]
Cheers to whoever's responsible for that. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 16:37, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- I kindly request that moar attention be paid to cp:Homosexual Obsession. — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 16:59, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- It's hard to dump hits onto Homosexual Obsession at a substantial enough rate to matter without beating the server up. Sorry. 70.228.38.134 17:05, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, it is a little larger. Thanks for the consideration. — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 17:41, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- The index pages are the best bet (things like Law Terms, Chemistry Terms etc). They are only few bytes as they have nothing on them. - π 08:19, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Relatively speaking. They still have a lot of Mediawiki boilerplate on them. Fedhaji 11:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Look through Ed Poor's contributions, you should find some good stubs there. - π 13:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Look at the dead end pages, there are few pages with only a category, no content whatsoever. I'm currently bumping John III. Bumped it up 1000 places so far. o.o Ke
klik 08:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)- cp:Sound is quite a good one.--
Kriss AkabusiAAAWOOOGAAAR!!1 08:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Judging by the bot report you guys'll have to double the rate to achieve this. So close...! I would like to contribute - who can lend me a program to do it? 194.6.79.200 15:42, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- From what I've noticed, regular refreshing doesn't work. You have to do CTRL+F5 to renew the cache of the page in order for it to work (this was tested using one page and checking its pageview count continuously). I'm using jitbit MacroRecorder to do CTRL+R (since Opera doesn't use CTRL+F5). I've bumped John III up from 31k to 9k so far, but that's only 800 pageviews.
- Jitbit's MacroRecorder. You can get a trial program (lasts 28 days). To use: after installation, go into settings and change some stuff like, unclicking the box that says "record mouse movement" or something like that. You would also want to change the speed to low (because you can't refresh too quickly either). Set the loop count to 0 for infinite looping. Then, go to the page you want to refresh, press CTRL+R (activates recording), and press CTRL+F5, then press Scroll Lock (stops recording). View the steps that the program has recorded and make sure to save the macro for later use.
- Then, minimize the jitbit window, go to the page you want to refresh, and press CTRL+P (starts playback). Finally, leave your computer running. NOTE: If you try to do any other tasks on that computer, it will screw up your intended purpose of pushing pageviews. Make sure to press Scroll Lock or CTRL+P again to quit the macro. I hope this helped Ke
klik 18:22, 29 June 2009 (UTC)- If you don't mind being close to 4th July already, iMacro addin for FireFox might be helpful as well. Things to stir up more lulz: check the popular pages for two short article to rotate/clear. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 00:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Judging by the bot report you guys'll have to double the rate to achieve this. So close...! I would like to contribute - who can lend me a program to do it? 194.6.79.200 15:42, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- cp:Sound is quite a good one.--
Kriss AkabusiAAAWOOOGAAAR!!1 08:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Look at the dead end pages, there are few pages with only a category, no content whatsoever. I'm currently bumping John III. Bumped it up 1000 places so far. o.o Ke
- Look through Ed Poor's contributions, you should find some good stubs there. - π 13:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Relatively speaking. They still have a lot of Mediawiki boilerplate on them. Fedhaji 11:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- The index pages are the best bet (things like Law Terms, Chemistry Terms etc). They are only few bytes as they have nothing on them. - π 08:19, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, it is a little larger. Thanks for the consideration. — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 17:41, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- It's hard to dump hits onto Homosexual Obsession at a substantial enough rate to matter without beating the server up. Sorry. 70.228.38.134 17:05, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Stat bot offline[edit]
As you may have noticed, the stats bot has been offline for several days. I have not brought it back online because of family problems that take priority over trolling. If someone else wishes to operate it, drop me a talkpage message. Fedhaji 11:13, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Status Update Question[edit]
Are we confident enough to have like 2.5 million page views done in this 4 days? It's getting close. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 01:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- No, because I can only contribute about 5k views in 4 hours--I blame my slow connection on this one. Ke
klik 02:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)- Well, you guys may have done something, there's a definite spike and then a tail off according to Alexa. And what articles are you
attackingrefreshing?sshole 12:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- I am doing law terms C,D,E,F, starting yesterday kind of (right after Andy deleted the page views of D and Arbitrary inferences). Oh wait a minute. I think I got rid of Alexa on my computer though (nLite?) [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 13:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- A word of advise, don't draw attention to the articles you are bumping by mentioning them. The young these days, I don't know. - π 13:11, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- I more or less only care about getting 100M on July 4th. they can recreate the article for all I care (we can always add views on other articles after). [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 13:29, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- I was doing less than 200kb articles that were found around rank 31200. Ke
klik 02:50, 2 July 2009 (UTC)- I was curious so I checked where it's at, about 98,358,598, almost a cool mil ahead of Andy's 97,500,000 front page brag. Looks like it's in sight? 1,700,000 in a day and a half or so? Even 48 hours and it's still July 4, but late in the day he might not notice it. ħuman 01:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- Also amusing on the statistics pages: "active users" (have made an action in last 7 days) - RW 138, CP 128. ħuman 01:36, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- Correction, Human: CP 127. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 17:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- That, or CP has a 1 editor/16 hour loss rate right now. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 17:15, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- Correction, Human: CP 127. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 17:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- I was curious so I checked where it's at, about 98,358,598, almost a cool mil ahead of Andy's 97,500,000 front page brag. Looks like it's in sight? 1,700,000 in a day and a half or so? Even 48 hours and it's still July 4, but late in the day he might not notice it. ħuman
- A word of advise, don't draw attention to the articles you are bumping by mentioning them. The young these days, I don't know. - π 13:11, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- I am doing law terms C,D,E,F, starting yesterday kind of (right after Andy deleted the page views of D and Arbitrary inferences). Oh wait a minute. I think I got rid of Alexa on my computer though (nLite?) [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 13:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- Well, you guys may have done something, there's a definite spike and then a tail off according to Alexa. And what articles are you
Have you received a thank-you card from Andy for giving him more stuff to brag about yet? --Kels 17:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Hammertime[edit]
I can read about 2.5 random pages per second, or 9k random pages per hour, pretty much indefinitely. My scripts currently read edit (well, "view source" for me) forms because wiki code is more useful to me than HTML. Do these reads count as pageviews? I can't really tell from the statistics page. Mountain Blue 03:24, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think so. --The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 03:44, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Crap. How do find out? Mountain Blue 05:11, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
EVERYONE! Chill the fudge out! Keklik 04:58, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- 99,116,935 and not much time left. Oh well. Oh, and "active users" is up to 136 at CP (and ours is up to 139). It's a crappy metric, of course. ħuman 05:05, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- What's the problem, Kek? Just tell your script to retry on 503 (or 500). Works for me. Nothing else did. Hammertime. Mountain Blue 05:13, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- I don't use scripts, just a macro that goes off every 5 seconds. Ke
klik 05:28, 4 July 2009 (UTC)- What you mean macro? I can mail you my script if you like. It's Python. I know it runs on Linux and all three major BSDs. I don't think you'd need more than five minutes to port it to Windows. Mountain Blue 05:34, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Just recorded my keystrokes of CTRL (down), R (down), R (up), CTRL (up)... and I have that play continuously. And I checked again, it refreshes every 2.3 seconds. My lappy is close to overheating though. It's at 53oC Ke
klik 07:35, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Just recorded my keystrokes of CTRL (down), R (down), R (up), CTRL (up)... and I have that play continuously. And I checked again, it refreshes every 2.3 seconds. My lappy is close to overheating though. It's at 53oC Ke
- What you mean macro? I can mail you my script if you like. It's Python. I know it runs on Linux and all three major BSDs. I don't think you'd need more than five minutes to port it to Windows. Mountain Blue 05:34, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- 99,145,287 at 06:05, that's just barely 30,000 per hour, or slightly over 30 hours to go. I have a bad feeling about this. I could open up some more but every other request I make gets me a 5xx response already. There's diminishing returns here. Mountain Blue 06:10, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Just do it. If he notices on Sunday 7/5 he won't know exactly when the clock ticked over. Merkins look at holiday weekends as one big glommy holyday anyway. ħuman 06:44, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Just do it. If he notices on Sunday 7/5 he won't know exactly when the clock ticked over. Merkins look at holiday weekends as one big glommy holyday anyway. ħuman
- I don't use scripts, just a macro that goes off every 5 seconds. Ke
- Right. 99,174,987 at 07:05; that's still about 30,000 completed and registered page views per hour. I'll try reasonably hard to keep this up, but I won't be able to supervise it very closely over the next twelve or so hours. It's Saturday evening here in NZ and RL is interfering, hard. I'll prolly be back by tomorrow 9 am, by which time it will be Saturday 5 pm in Andyland. Mountain Blue 07:16, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- 99,560,923 at 4:20 (16:20) EST. ħuman 20:23, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- 99,560,923 at 4:20 (16:20) EST. ħuman
- Right. 99,174,987 at 07:05; that's still about 30,000 completed and registered page views per hour. I'll try reasonably hard to keep this up, but I won't be able to supervise it very closely over the next twelve or so hours. It's Saturday evening here in NZ and RL is interfering, hard. I'll prolly be back by tomorrow 9 am, by which time it will be Saturday 5 pm in Andyland. Mountain Blue 07:16, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Update[edit]
It's still the Fourth of July in Wasilla, Alaska, and it will be for 9.5 more hours. We need about 43k pages per hour to make it but I think there's hope. I'm now running two machines with 12 wikipounders each, and I've configured my script to only access articles known to be less than 12k. These pages are within a couple of percent of Law Terms D, but there's OVER 9,000 of them (more than 11k, in fact), so no probable form of caching could plausibly prevent me from increasing the counter. I've also switched on gzip compression for the extra moar. Mountain Blue 22:37, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- OK, I've joined the gang, I clicked Random Page until three clicks later I found a brilliant stub page. It's not like there's a shortage of them. If we can get this happen by the time Andy gets done with fireworks it would be AWESOME. DogPMarmite Patrol 23:18, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- OK, now two machines working on it. The first stub I found had a link to another one. Very simple this. --DogPMarmite Patrol 23:28, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- I think it will be enough if he wakes up to it tomorrow morning, say by 8-9 EST, so there's still 12 hours. 99,656,894 now. It's gonna be hard to get 350,000 hits, my last calculations showed an approx 20,000 an hour increment, as said, it needs to be 30-40k. People really seem to want to read what CP has to offer lately! ħuman 23:45, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- CP's popularity on the internet is increasing! --DogPMarmite Patrol 23:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- My quicky spreadsheet prediction shows CP hitting 100,000,000 around 7 AM EST Sunday, and a fairly steady 30k/hour. What on earth has led to such pwnage of the evolutionary paradigm on teh innertubez??? ħuman 01:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- ole! ole! ole! Evolution has been skewered! Ace McWickedi9 01:36, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- My quicky spreadsheet prediction shows CP hitting 100,000,000 around 7 AM EST Sunday, and a fairly steady 30k/hour. What on earth has led to such pwnage of the evolutionary paradigm on teh innertubez??? ħuman
- CP's popularity on the internet is increasing! --DogPMarmite Patrol 23:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- I think it will be enough if he wakes up to it tomorrow morning, say by 8-9 EST, so there's still 12 hours. 99,656,894 now. It's gonna be hard to get 350,000 hits, my last calculations showed an approx 20,000 an hour increment, as said, it needs to be 30-40k. People really seem to want to read what CP has to offer lately! ħuman
- OK, now two machines working on it. The first stub I found had a link to another one. Very simple this. --DogPMarmite Patrol 23:28, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
(undent) Yes, we've been doing between 28,300 and 32,700 pages per hour for the last day or so. I have bandwidth for a lot more, but Crazypedia seems to be maxed out. If I open more floodgates I get hyperbolically longer loads and more errors to boot. The bottleneck seems to be their database, not their bandwidth; gzip compression for the on-the-wire data had close to zero effect. Guess we should have started earlier. Mountain Blue 01:46, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yea, I left mine running while I was away for the past 10 hours.. only earned 9k for whole time. It sucks. 69 minutes left (EST) Ke
klik 02:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)- Well, EST's been a lost cause for some time now. I hope against hope to make UTC-12; some of the US Minor Outlying Islands are in that zone so it's legitimate. We're still stuck at between 39,700 and 32,700 pages per hour though and I'm expecting a bad bandwidth hit any minute now. Mountain Blue 02:59, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'm still seeing a chance of hitting the magic 108 before Andy eats his Sunday after the Fourth pancakes. Keep in mind, he's too stupid to know when it actually happened, he might not even notice until he gets back from church and makes his weekly Insight post. This might even require a talk:main post to point out to him that his baby turned a hundred million while he slept... Now, if a whispering Iago tells him not to brag about the hits due to Lieberal deceit, how can he ever brag about them again? His peepee will be tied up into his arsehole and he'll have no way to avoid penetration. ħuman 04:17, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- How do you tie it up like that? I've been wondering for so long. Ke
klik 05:14, 5 July 2009 (UTC) - We seem to have currently borked it, so I've turned my clickbots off for now. Their server is melting down in regards to evolution on the internets! Ole! --DogPMarmite Patrol 05:41, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I turned my
buggerybottery down somewhat, too. I killed one of the two boxen I talked about earlier. It lost me only 2000 pph out of the roughly 12000 pph I was still getting. We're still doing about 28900 pph total, though. Confirms my hypothesis about the database as the bottleneck and hyperbolically diminishing returns. Mountain Blue 06:08, 5 July 2009 (UTC)- Let's hope the fans of CP keep the 30k/hour loading going. Right now is 99,935,118, they're on track to make Andy a pretty pancake breakfast surprise! Ole ole ole! ħuman 08:53, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- Let's hope the fans of CP keep the 30k/hour loading going. Right now is 99,935,118, they're on track to make Andy a pretty pancake breakfast surprise! Ole ole ole! ħuman
- Yeah, I turned my
- How do you tie it up like that? I've been wondering for so long. Ke
- I'm still seeing a chance of hitting the magic 108 before Andy eats his Sunday after the Fourth pancakes. Keep in mind, he's too stupid to know when it actually happened, he might not even notice until he gets back from church and makes his weekly Insight post. This might even require a talk:main post to point out to him that his baby turned a hundred million while he slept... Now, if a whispering Iago tells him not to brag about the hits due to Lieberal deceit, how can he ever brag about them again? His peepee will be tied up into his arsehole and he'll have no way to avoid penetration. ħuman
- Well, EST's been a lost cause for some time now. I hope against hope to make UTC-12; some of the US Minor Outlying Islands are in that zone so it's legitimate. We're still stuck at between 39,700 and 32,700 pages per hour though and I'm expecting a bad bandwidth hit any minute now. Mountain Blue 02:59, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes! Well, Maybe.[edit]
Roughly 60,000 pages to go, at about 30,000 pages per hour, and two or three hours to go depending on how you count (there are US possessions with people on them in UTC-11 and US possessions with no people on them in UTC-12). We might just make it. Mountain Blue 09:00, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
99,940,328 at 10:00 pm American Samoa time, for the record. Mountain Blue 09:02, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- 99,945,687 at 5:16 AM EST. Andy is asleep still, the fans of CP look like they are going to drive it over 10000000000000 well before he wakes. Shall we serve it to him with crumpets and lox? ħuman 09:17, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmm...you can see the server? I can't get to CP at all, not since late last night? I just get PHAILURE. --DogPMarmite Patrol 15:28, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- The CP webmaster appears to have blocked the IP addresses of clickbots and certain vandals and proxies on the server side. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 20:43, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmm, much as I thought. Hurray! I'm finally unable to look at that pile of poo any more, in some ways I feel tremendously liberated. However, I'll just have to check from one of the many wireless networks I'm surrounded by that my neighbours kindly let me use - and which are provided by at least three different ISP's. Perhaps I can get my block a little larger? How about a nice /16? In recent weeks, I've managed to get what is probably the entire customer base of a certain European ISP banned from accessing CP. That was fun. Maybe I can take out my entire neighbourhood (city?) now and save them the horror of accessing that monstrosity of garbage? --DogPMarmite Patrol 21:02, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- OK, problem solved by sharing a neighbour's ISP (a different ISP than my own). Now standing by for lulz. --DogPMarmite Patrol 23:32, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- The CP webmaster appears to have blocked the IP addresses of clickbots and certain vandals and proxies on the server side.
- Hmmm...you can see the server? I can't get to CP at all, not since late last night? I just get PHAILURE. --DogPMarmite Patrol 15:28, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Still not updating[edit]
Assfly has been withholding the updates since you know when, and it's been well over 100 million page views. I wonder what has happened to him. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 14:19, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Awards Certificate[edit]
I haz maded them a Awards Certificate. Happy 100m pageviews Andy! --DogPMarmite Patrol 16:37, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
This Awards Certificate from a vandal/troll site is available to be offered up to Andy at Imageshack, in case anyone wants to present him with his award.
- Just for everyone's information, the 100m views occurred at 11:14 GMT and I have a screen cap which I'll upload. ГенгисIs the Pope a Catholic? 18:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- It seems others can load CP - I still can't load a single page? Are you all able to load that infernal website? Why am I being singled out for a Sunday lacking in insights? --DogPMarmite Patrol 20:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- Just for everyone's information, the 100m views occurred at 11:14 GMT and I have a screen cap which I'll upload.
Congratulations on passing the line, even if you were 7 hours late. Now to watch Mainpageleft religiously. As for His Schlaflyness's notice of your achievements, we have the following:
Fedhaji 20:27, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- You haz maid a very niec uward DogP! ħuman 21:25, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- You haz maid a very niec uward DogP! ħuman
What we have actually achieved[edit]
It just occurred to me what we have actually achieved here is robbing Andy of his big moment. He probably has been eyeing off that 100,000,000 for along time, since he past 50,000,000, but now it means nothing because it was achieved with an elaborate page bump operation. We have taken what should have been a defining moment in CPs history and reduced it to a joke. Well done everyone. - π 01:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- You're absolutely correct. I believe he'll update the main page numbers in a few days with barely the most passing mention as a result. Hurray! --DogPMarmite Patrol 01:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- Uh... hasn't that kinda been the idea all along? Mountain Blue 01:12, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- EC--No--TK will nuke the obviously-bumped pages(PAINFULLY clear on the "popular pages" list) to bring the count down to a point where it will reach the magic number when all of this has been forgotten....TheoryOfPractice 01:13, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- The overall page count will remain until they do something such as upgrade the mediawiki software. 1.15 is out now so they may do it soon. I know Nx has been looking at the upcoming vector graphics version. - π 01:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- Also, remember that we've spread out our hits over 13,651 different articles (all articles shorter than 12,000 characters when translated to HTML) specifically to avoid that. We even posted a screenshot demonstrating we were not targetting any particular article. They wouldn't possibly want to reset half their articles, would they? Even if they would, we could simply hammer them again the next time they get close
to 100Mclose to 50M two years from now. Mountain Blue 01:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)- I agree Pi. We totally spoiled his orgasm while watching the Playboy Channel (3 internets to anyone who gets that ref!) ħuman 03:14, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- I agree Pi. We totally spoiled his orgasm while watching the Playboy Channel (3 internets to anyone who gets that ref!) ħuman
- EC--No--TK will nuke the obviously-bumped pages(PAINFULLY clear on the "popular pages" list) to bring the count down to a point where it will reach the magic number when all of this has been forgotten....TheoryOfPractice 01:13, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
demonstrating we were not targetting any particular article. Yeah--but there are three "Law Terms" in the top 20 now...totally obvious...TheoryOfPractice 04:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- None of my hits went to those articles. I was more interested in obscure stubs about ancient historical figures...there's no point trying to fight the battle at top, I reckon, and so I went for the least visited stubbies at the bottom. --DogPMarmite Patrol 04:26, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Video games[edit]
I don't know what he is talking about. If video games influenced people the result of Pac-Man should be that we have an entire generation of people that standard around in dark rooms, with bright flashing coloured lights, listening to repetitive electronic music, whilst taking magic pills. - π 01:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- It's called public schooling. See what I did there? :D
NorsemanCyser Melomel 01:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Shows how outdated they are. They just picked up on this now. Wait until they learn about games like Assassin's Creed. Anyway, how can two players dying of heart attacks be used against violent video games?--Nate River 01:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- All of you missed the tunnel that connects the two sides of the room such that you can go from the left side of the room to the right side of the room by travelling left. It's the desire to find this tunnel that stem a bunch of scientists to look for things such as wormholes.
- And then why the age of consent (age of the victim that get people accuse of statutory rape) is lower than the age rated for sexually explicit games, while the opposite happens for legally using guns killing people (The military has a age limit higher than the teen rated games, I think)? [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 01:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Shows how outdated they are. They just picked up on this now. Wait until they learn about games like Assassin's Creed. Anyway, how can two players dying of heart attacks be used against violent video games?--Nate River 01:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Phyllie and Scruff played Super Smash Bros. (for the N64) and they turned out fine. >.> Ke
klik 01:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)- AS Jr = Scruff? ГенгисIs the Pope a Catholic? 09:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yesh.. I didn't notice that I had said that. Dx Ke
klik 02:53, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yesh.. I didn't notice that I had said that. Dx Ke
- AS Jr = Scruff?
- What exactly do they mean by violent video games? Are they talking about T rated FPS? Stuff like God of War, DMC and Assassin's Creed I understand (I actually have to show my ID when buying these where I live) but seriously. Parents have to look at the rating systems of games and understand that they are no longer simple distractions like the games they grew up with (my mom cannot understand why I still buy games, especially when I bought my PS3)--Nate River 01:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Tough computer game laws, you should try living in Australia. Games are sold in New Zealand with stickers on them that say "banned in Australia" as a marketing devise. - π 01:54, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Heh, it works too. NZ has everything Australia wants but cant have. Like an intelligent populous, awesomely violent video games and better looking woman, like Helen Clark. Ace McWickedi9 02:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- What about Julia Gillard? - π 03:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Cool, I'd actually buy them with that kind of label. I'm nearly pissing myself reading the SCOTUS. If Andy could pass Harvard law, I actually think that I could. I'm still wondering which violent rating theey are talking about. Violence, cartoon violence, excessive or graphic? All of the above perhaps? Or just the ones with blood and gore? I cannot see them having difficulty with those FPS used by the US to promote the army. Hell, playing Ace Combat almost makes me want to join the air force--Nate River 02:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- If you can pass law nearly any where else, you can pass it at Harvard. Most unis teach the same things (the god botherer ones being an exception). Harvard is just harder to get into, once you are there it is much the same course work. The difference between you and Andy is he has connections, although you are probably a bit smarter. - π 03:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Heh, it works too. NZ has everything Australia wants but cant have. Like an intelligent populous, awesomely violent video games and better looking woman, like Helen Clark. Ace McWickedi9 02:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Tough computer game laws, you should try living in Australia. Games are sold in New Zealand with stickers on them that say "banned in Australia" as a marketing devise. - π 01:54, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Phyllie and Scruff played Super Smash Bros. (for the N64) and they turned out fine. >.> Ke
Teabag 03:00, 29 June 2009 (UTC)Some claim that 2/3rds of videogamers are over 18 years old, but far more people are over that age and a much higher percentage of minors are videogamers
- I think it means that Andy plays video games in his spare time (he's well above the age of 18), and I'm not sure about the second part. Ke
klik- I actually figured it out and it does make sense. Congrats Andy. Teabag 03:05, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- I think I figured it out but it doesn't make sense. More than 2/3 of the general population (of the U.S.? World?) are over 18 years old, but the percentage of minors that play videogames is greater than that of adults, therefore less than 2/3 of those who play videogames are over 18 years old. What about an hypothetical population of 50 minors and 150 adults, where 10 minors (20%) and 25 adults (16.667%) play videogames? FlareTalk 03:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, I'm sure Andy would love Assassin's Creed. Kill a traitor, yayy! Kill an abortionist, yayyy! Kill a moslem, yayyyy! Kill a guy who burns books. Eh, bummer, burning books is cool - hope the next mission makes up for it... Kill a guy with a French-sounding name, yayyyyy! --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 13:12, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- I actually figured it out and it does make sense. Congrats Andy. Teabag 03:05, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- its all statistics , say 1000 people in the world 300 of them gamers , that means that 200 are over 18 , thats 2/3 of the gamers, sp 200/700 =200/7 % = 28% of adults and 100/300 = 33% so percentage wise under 18 is bigger ... I think ...but that would mean he got a statistic right ;( Hamster 03:48, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- But that's precisely what he was refuting. FlareTalk 04:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- When is Andy teaching that math course again?--Nate River 04:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- But that's precisely what he was refuting. FlareTalk 04:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- I think it means that Andy plays video games in his spare time (he's well above the age of 18), and I'm not sure about the second part. Ke
"I trained for this day."[edit]
Karajou has some fun with his one-liners today. --Sid 20:15, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- I guess Karajou doesn't understand the rules of "The Game". Ke
klik 20:20, 2 July 2009 (UTC)- Reminds me of when we go on blocking sprees here... except, of course, we block for minutes, and only block fellow sysops... at least he is putting some effort into enjoying his work. ħuman 20:30, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- Next thing we know, Karajou is blocked for "silly block comments" Ke
klik 20:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- Next thing we know, Karajou is blocked for "silly block comments" Ke
- Reminds me of when we go on blocking sprees here... except, of course, we block for minutes, and only block fellow sysops... at least he is putting some effort into enjoying his work. ħuman
- "DiarrheaFountain" is a perfect example of liberal hilarity which conservatives don't understand. Hilarious and tasteful humour. SJ Debaser 10:17, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- Where is that? Ahahaha DiarrheaFountain. Is that a user name? User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 16:00, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- Where is that? Ahahaha DiarrheaFountain. Is that a user name?
- "DiarrheaFountain" is a perfect example of liberal hilarity which conservatives don't understand. Hilarious and tasteful humour. SJ Debaser 10:17, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Concierge Medicine WIGO[edit]
This is the latest in a string of reasons why you should never trust the right wing's answers to health. It clearly is trying to make healthy life exclusively for the rich and powerful. These people seem to be making our answer seem like the WAY more common sense answer. --Crazyswordsman 00:00, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- I hadn't heard that this was part of any "plan" as such. This has been a phenomenon in the last 8 years or so, mostly in wealthy areas. It's never caught on near me (chronically depressed economy). Basically, you pay a doctor a yearly fee, say 1000 bucks which puts them on retainer. They still get to collect payments for individual services, but they take on far fewer patients and basically make themselves more available, e.g. anytime appointments, meeting you at the ER, no waits ever, snazzy office, etc. The fee lets the doc take on fewer patients and treat them the way most doctors would like to if they weren't reliant on volume. It's a practice that makes me squirm a bit, but not antithetical to fairness in health care, as long as those who cannot afford concierge care are still provided for. --
-PalMD --yada yada 00:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- Looking at it that way, it seems that it sounds acceptable. But still, HMOs shouldn't be telling doctors how many patients they have to be seeing, which is what happens under the current system. --Crazyswordsman 00:56, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- True, but the concierge system makes the doctor a bunch of guaranteed cash, which offsets doing less procedures for money - 50 to 100 patients sounds reasonable to me, that's a lot of cash! Also, the HMO does not say how many patients a doctor must see, they limit how much time they'll pay for, right? ħuman 01:05, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- True, but the concierge system makes the doctor a bunch of guaranteed cash, which offsets doing less procedures for money - 50 to 100 patients sounds reasonable to me, that's a lot of cash! Also, the HMO does not say how many patients a doctor must see, they limit how much time they'll pay for, right? ħuman
- Looking at it that way, it seems that it sounds acceptable. But still, HMOs shouldn't be telling doctors how many patients they have to be seeing, which is what happens under the current system. --Crazyswordsman 00:56, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
I would look at concierge medicine as more of a symptom than a problem. The financial and lifestyle realities of primary care are an enormous deterrent to med students. Non-procedural primary care visits are billed to low that a doctor has to see a huge patient load in order to pay the bills- you get paid more to resect a lung cancer than you do to finally get your patient to quit smoking. You get paid more to perform a gastric bypass than you do to help your patient lose weight. You get paid more to amputate a foot than to control a patient's blood glucose. Surgeons deserve to be paid well for what they do, but primary care providers shouldn't be neglected. So because of volume demands we often see fifteen minutes per patient visit. Most people become doctors because they genuinely like people, are interested in them, and want to help them. Fifteen minutes is not enough. A concierge clinic allows a doctor to practice medicine the way they remember their childhood doc practicing. Is this fair? It's a good question. But this phenomenon is something we should pay attention to. Unless we fix primary care, we can't fix the system as a whole. Corry 06:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- Well put. ħuman 06:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- Two things I should clarify: the above paragraph makes it look like I'm a physician. I am not. I am a third year medical student. Furthermore, reading above it appears that my only concern is money. It is not, although financial pressures are undeniable. If you attend a private medical school and finance your education through loans (like most everybody does) you almost can't afford to be a family doctor because of the debt load. Corry 20:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'd have to agree with corry that it is a symptom, although under any system, including single payer, this kind of arrangement will be attractive to patients who can afford it.-- -PalMD --yada yada 00:28, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'd have to agree with corry that it is a symptom, although under any system, including single payer, this kind of arrangement will be attractive to patients who can afford it.--
- Two things I should clarify: the above paragraph makes it look like I'm a physician. I am not. I am a third year medical student. Furthermore, reading above it appears that my only concern is money. It is not, although financial pressures are undeniable. If you attend a private medical school and finance your education through loans (like most everybody does) you almost can't afford to be a family doctor because of the debt load. Corry 20:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- You know, the country I live in has a single-payer system as well. When my wife gave birth last year, she decided that it was important for her private OBGYN to be there during the birth, especially since a C-Section was looking necessary. It meant, necessarily, paying him a healthy sum under the table. Ironically though, since so many other things were free or reimbursed, we ended up paying much less than my sister, who gave birth in the USA a few months later. But I forget, socialized medicine causes rationing, and it kills people, so the USA's system is many times better. *Cough* Junggai 11:11, 4 July 2009 (UTC)