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I am super curious[edit]

As to the percentage of women editors at Conservapedia. My guess is somewhere between zero and one percent--"Shut up, Brx." 18:58, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Jesus Brx is back. AceModerator 19:26, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
Honestly, I don't think there's been a woman on CP since Jallen, HSMom and *cough* Jessica. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 08:28, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
Maybe one of the mysterious internet ninja collective known as User:Conservative is a woman. I can just see Ken, all Norman Bates on a Friday night for that special kind of online. LondonGrump (talk) 16:42, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
This is one of those "liberals are hypocritical" points that CP loves to make. They don't think women are qualified editors, but we do. So unless 50% of WP editors are female, they think they've got us, even though 1% of CP editors are. Same thing as "lack of diversity in Democratic primary." They don't expect any Republican candidates who aren't white men, but so what? It's still a left fail. Logic is not your friend when trying to grok their world. Whoover (talk) 02:20, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Tension in Iran is the fault of Trump's warmongering or and a brutal Middle Eastern regime. liberals.[edit]

[1] I knew somehow liberals would be to blame.--Mercian (talk) 20:52, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

What kind of pretzel logic is this? From what it looks like, it seems like "liberals" (the Democrats), who were the ones strongly condemning Trump, pissed off Iran (who were also strongly condemning Trump) and made Iran take down a Ukraine airplane? --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 21:02, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
What do you expect from a website that considers The Joker "the best of the public" while condemning it as "role-playing atheistic violence by white men."? LondonGrump (talk) 09:24, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
As has been very well said before, the gist of Conservapedia is that everything bad that has ever happened was because of liberalism.Spud (talk) 14:05, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

So Ken has never ate bacon, lobster or prawn.[edit]

[2] Or more likely he picks and chooses the parts of the Bible he wishes to follow. Do you eat pork products or any other food on the list Ken? I would say deny this and lose all credibility buy any he had was lost years ago.--Mercian (talk) 01:37, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

No, Christian Americans don't eat pork. Only atheists in China and Europe. Whoover (talk) 07:39, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
I got a question: What is artificial crab? Crab meat made with polymers? nobsFree Roger Stone! 07:50, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
A few words posting here and he goes on a spree, gloating that people are dying from a very nasty virus. Atheists die in China, Kids are murdered in Norway and Manchester, "Olé! Olé! Olé!, checkmate atheists". Although he is a genuinely nasty bastard it is so easy to pluck his strings, no sport though, like Liverpool playing their first team against Forest Green Rovers reserves.--Mercian (talk) 14:10, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
[3] No anger from me mate, more like a mix of amusement, disgust and perhaps a little bit of pity.--Mercian (talk) 14:53, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
PS America does not need to import Muslims to commit atrocities. As has been seen, over and over, you have enough of your own citizens to do that for you.--Mercian (talk) 15:02, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Hmmm, sounds like a racist statement. Just because the majority of black gun deaths are black-on-black homicides, is that cause to restrict black gun ownership rights? nobsFree Roger Stone! 15:40, 28 January 2020 (UTC
A Conservapedian accusing me of racism? The majority of mass murders that have made the UK news were done by white people.--Mercian (talk) 17:33, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
There you go - evidence of cp:liberal media bias. nobsFree Roger Stone! 18:56, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
My mistake, Sandy Hook, Aurora, Vegas, Orlando, Columbine, Parkland etc were all carried about by black people, it's just liberal media bias pretended they were not.--Mercian (talk) 20:23, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
I see. We have "gun violence" confused with "mass shooting". A common error, I suppose. nobsFree Roger Stone! 21:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
On your part, at no point did I mention gun violence or mass shooting.--Mercian (talk) 23:08, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Pardon me? You took the leap from Americans committing atrocities to mass shootings; I specifically referenced the black-on-black homicide rate. A single murder of any individual is an atrocity, wouldn't you agree? nobsFree Roger Stone! 23:26, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
I think you misread him. "He cannot defend the notion that importing Muslims ... is not going to be a causal factor for violence." Sounds like you're good. Whoover (talk) 00:27, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
"Importing Muslims," WTF?!! He's making Muslims out to be like some kind of commodity, that's extremely dehumanizing. Oxyaena Harass 01:02, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
"you have enough of your own citizens to do that [commit atrocities]." Many if not most (to use a Slimvirginism) Americans could interpret this as a reference to black-on-black violence. nobsFree Roger Stone! 00:57, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Artificial crab is usually made from white fish (e.g. pollock) and red food coloring. Mmmm![4] --Annanoon (talk) 16:01, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
No polymers? Thank God. I was fearful that eating artificial crab left a carbon footprint. nobsFree Roger Stone! 17:08, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
[5] I admit that eating live rodents is disgusting but nowhere near as disgusting as murdering young people because they disagree with you politically. Personally I would rather eat rodents for the rest of my life than kill one single person but Mr Conservative glorifies in killing kids and even post Oles when it does happen. When will he admit that killing children is disgusting? Never because he agrees and applauds the concept.--Mercian (talk) 08:57, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
[6] At no point in that little tirade did you deny that you glorify in the murder of children. You dirty pro child-murder scumbag.I think I will be let it known around the net that Conservapedia's propaganda chief, any by extension the website and Schalfly are pro child murder. Deny it all you want but the evidence is clear. It is my assumption that you get sexual pleasure out of it. Pervert.--Mercian (talk) 14:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
He says "I take no pleasure in teenage girls being enamored with the work of the liberal/feminist Ariana Grande." But you do take pleasure in them dying don't you you murderous (by proxy) scumbag. "Fred Phelps is dead, long live his successor"--Mercian (talk) 08:57, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
[7] I do not exchange messages with supporters and sympathisers of Islamic Terrorists. What ever crap you come up with does not disguise that fact. You support Jihad, So Jihadi Ken, Fuck Off.--Mercian (talk) 15:12, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
"Why Mercian and likeminded pro-Muslim immigration Brits are responsible for the Manchester Arena Bombing"
That Sir, is libel. When Alex Jones expressed similar views on Sandy Hook the lawsuit almost ruined him, and I am guessing he is a man of vastly more resources than you.--Mercian (talk) 19:48, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Such a saddo of a "man", answering queries dated 2011 and 2013[8] Deny you are a saddo and lose all credibility.--Mercian (talk) 14:46, 17 February 2020 (UTC)


That's a weird one. He starts off kinda ok, with Oliver, but then somehow slides back 200 years, to Thomas. He does know there's 2 Cromwells, right? And not one that had Noah's life expectancy. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 04:47, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Kinda OK with Oliver? That's jumping forwards 100 years. They're lost the moment they stray outside their little bubble of ideas. LondonGrump (talk) 10:03, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
He does actually start OK, which makes it even more bizarre. In the full diff, he correctly associates Olly (1599-1658) with Charles I, but then drunkenly staggers back in time to Henry VIII (1491-1597) and ends up passing out in a pool of crazy history vomit with the War of the Roses (1455-1487). There's not even any overlap between the things he's conflating. Helena Bonham Carter (talk) 16:06, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

A little math lesson for Nobs[edit]

Nobs made the... fascinating claim that Bloomberg spent $500 million on his Presidential campaign. Therefore, he could have given a million dollars to each of 327 million Americans, and had money left over.

One million dollars multiplied by 327 million is 327 trillion dollars. Just for purpose of comparison, the entire US Federal budget for 2019 is about 4.4 trillion. The net worth of Apple, the most valuable company in existence, is $1.3 trillion. An exact definition of "all the money in the world" is difficult come by, much less an amount, but if you define it as coins, currency, and money in traditional bank accounts and other easily accessible funds, it's around $90.4 trillion. So, you are suggesting that Bloomberg literally has access to all the money in the world.

And even if it was possible to give every American man, woman and child a million dollars, the result would be instantaneous, ruinous inflation -- you'd have a million dollars, but it might buy you a cup of coffee. And I mean cheap gas station coffee, not good stuff from Starbucks.

The only people that would benefit from such an event are debtors. If I owe $50K on my mortgage, and I suddenly get a million bucks, I can pay off the mortgage for $50K, even if that $50K is worth a tiny fraction of what it was when I signed the mortgage papers. The bank's not happy, but hey, sucks to be them.

If Bloomberg did decide to just divide up the $500 million between 327 million Americans, that's about a buck fifty each. There's that cheap gas station coffee again. (Will $1.50 get you a coffee at a gas station? I don't drink coffee, so I don't know.)

I don't dispute the Bloomberg spent a lot of money for very little benefit, but really, Rob, this is basic math, elementary or middle school level stuff. It's not calculus or even algebra.

MDB (the MD used to be for Maryland, but now means Magically Deliciousthe B is still for Bear) 14:21, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

His MPR entry is sufficiently badly written that yours is a reasonable inference absent any other background knowledge. Unfortunately, if you check the linked video, he's referencing an on-air maths flub on MSNBC that was widely mocked in right-wing circles.
Rob's probably stupid enough to have swallowed the claim uncritically if, say, uttered by Trump, but I reckon he's too plugged in to that media ecosphere to have been unaware of the context in this case. Helena Bonham Carter (talk) 15:38, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
Funny thing is, if nobs were to come in and say 'Sorry guys, I made a mistake, mea culpa' like a goddamned human being that would be it and it'd be done. But no, his reply would have to involve George Soros and some Clinton Chronicles bullshit and a loop back to Burisma and try to prove that in fact, if you just tally up all the lost labor that would have been performed by aborted fetuses if there had been no Roe v. Wade, and had we experienced the 75% growth rate that would have been generated by a McCain-Palin adminstration, it in fact comes out to MORE than $1 million per American, nanny nanny boo boo. There would also be some shitty things said about undocumented immigrants, but I'm not 100% where they'd fit in the diatribe, so I left them in reserve. Semipenultimate (talk) 23:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
Sorry guys, I assumed readers could read and do math, especially since the direct quote was attributed to MSNBC without editorial comment. My mistake. Not to be outdone, MSNBC doubles down CCP propaganda. One former Obama official says of Obama's former head of Obamacare "I don't have time for bullshit people." nobsFree Roger Stone! 00:40, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Conservapedia humour[edit]

A certain amount of (presumably) unintended humour can be found by reading the MP list of 'popular articles' across and downwards - on the current listing have 'Hollywood values/Holy Spirit', 'Benefits of capitalism/Romantic paintings', 'double standard/Obamagate timeline', 'Donald Trump/Nihilism', 'Mystery: Does God Have a Sense of Humor/Causes of Homosexuality'. Anna Livia (talk) 15:56, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

The Wizard of Oz/Counterexamples to evolution', 'Presidential Election 2020/ex-homosexuals', 'Satanism/Romantic paintings' and 'Immigration/Greatest Conservative sports stars'. Anna Livia (talk) 17:59, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Conservapedia continues to blame atheism for Corona19.[edit]

And yet their dear/great/supreme leader Andy is against vaccines and basic human cleanliness, washing hands to prevent spread of disease is if remember rightly, liberal claptrap. Follow Conservapedia's guidelines we will all be dead within the year. America also has the unclean and unsanitary procedure of using chlorine in certain meat products as their food standards are far below standard. --Mercian (talk) 05:30, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Disease is punishment from God for sin. People only die from diseases if they don't believe in Jesus hard enough. -- (talk) 06:16, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Is it me, or is the US not taking Coronavirus as seriously as everyone else? How will the health care system support everyone if not everyone can pay? Why would many people go to be tested if they have to pay for the test? Perhaps one of our colonial colleagues can say. Conservapedia ain't telling... LondonGrump (talk) 07:00, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Putting Pence in charge of the government's response should've been a pretty clear indication. Remember, Republicans think that if it won't happen to them, it doesn't matter (luckily the CPAC outbreak will change that), and I'm guessing that Trump is hoping that a) it spreads in the traditionally Blue urban areas and b) lasts until November, so he can postpone the election. These people might be incompetent, but they'd not dumb. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 11:59, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Back to Andy. I think the best option is for the powers that be send him a sample of the virus so he can test it himself at home to ensure it is an atheist problem and the personal hygiene recommended by medical professionals is a strategy to shut down the voice of Conservatives. If they do not do so they are Liberal Nazis employing liberal censorship techniques to deceive the world. In the meantime he will have his Minister of Propaganda whom the deaths of those on 9/11 are firmly his fault and who has expressed that the death of liberal unionised fire fighters was a good thing, to spurt out some bollocks about the dietary practices of atheists, atheist hospitals, atheism and medicine and atheism and health. Meanwhile, due to his expertise on the subject Andy will mishandle the sample and the whole 90 million people or so who live in the DC-Boston belt will be quarantined. He will then declare on his deathbed that it was not a hoax but a liberal plot to kill everybody in the world.--Mercian (talk) 17:53, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
PS, It is largely an atheist liberal elite problem and there is proof of this. In Italy it is the more liberal and secular north of the country that has the worse of it where the more conservative and religious south of Italy has it bad but not so much so.--Mercian (talk) 18:06, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
You're seeing the conspiracy nuttery about it being a Chinese bioweapon? Like a lot of conspiracy theories it's wish fulfillment and psychological reassurance. It's not a natural disaster that cares not one whit whether you're rich or poor; it's Bad People who want to hurt us. We don't have to change society to be more equitable, help everyone, take collective action against collective threats. We have to find and crush the Bad People. Bad Things don't happen to Good People, except when caused by Bad People. -- (talk) 09:03, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
Since someone apparently objected to my last comment, no sarcasm. Actually most countries seem to be whistling past the graveyard. A "serious" response would probably involve shutting down all non-emergency air travel, screening every person who enters or leaves the country, isolating places with outbreaks. But no one is willing to do that because the holy god of the market comes before all else including human lives, so what's actually happening is governments wait until it starts getting bad and then start doing just enough to limit it without impacting the economy too much. Here in Murica we just have the added factor of a narcissist sociopath president who only cares about the stock market going up to get re-elected, so he's bullshitting to minimize it and shift blame to the libs and foreigners/minorities. And his fellow sociopaths are trying to figure out how to make a buck off it. Which goes to the rest of your comment...if people can't pay, fuck 'em. It's their fault for being poor. You apparently don't get how deep this Horatio Alger bullshit runs in U.S. society, even among the fairly "liberal". "America is the land of opportunity. Anyone can get ahead here if they work hard." Thus, logically, people who don't get ahead are that way because they don't work hard, and therefore deserve their fate. -- (talk) 09:03, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
This is a valid criticism. 1.2 billion Chinese are not atheists; its just the official doctrine of their CCP oppressors. To say, "atheists eat snakes" is absurd. If you're going to pin the Coronavirus on atheists, pin it on the CCP's germwarfare labs and hold harmless the oppressed population who are forced to eat snakes under leftwing communist tyranny. nobsFree Roger Stone! 01:03, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Knobs' really on a role at CP[edit]

[9]He published this bit which I agree is a political shot at goal from China but there are some glaring truths in the statement, mainly about the number of those infected. Undocumented immigrants of which there are millions will not seek medical treatment out of fear of deportation and millions more cannot afford health insurance or even afford to see a doctor to be tested. This puts the larger population at greater risk which would be greatly reduced with a universal healthcare system and without the xenophobic policies of Sir Donald. Atheists started it, religious and right wing conservatives refuse to treat it and hasten it's spread and mortality rate. I wonder if the fundies think God has given them immunity, either way the response is diabolically stupid.--Mercian (talk) 05:46, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Tribalism is so beautiful. The important thing is that it's essential everyone call it "FOREIGN CHING CHONG CHINA virus", because it will assist the world in treating and containing it if we constantly remind everyone that it's a foreign poison introduced to our pure Vaterland by outsiders. Anyone who wants to call it by the "official" globalist name is just virtue signalling. (And why won't Obama say the words "radical Islamic terrorism"?!) This is the thing most worth caring about, way more than things like having reliable diagnostic tests available everywhere or ensuring people can get treatment. *sarcasm fully off* Why do you assume right-wingers see "illegals" and poors getting sick as a bad thing? Just because they generally don't come right out and say, "I want them dead"? They think Jesus will protect them if they pray hard enough, and if they die they go to heaven anyway. Nothing happens that isn't part of "God's plan", so why worry? Also I like Assfly's fart right below that. "If Trump would just declare his intention to be a dictator and nullify the laws, libs would realize the virus is no big deal!" What's the matter, Andy, too much of a wuss to just go right ahead and say you want a dictator to seize power and start rounding up your enemies? (In case anyone still needed convincing that right-wing authoritarians' bleating about the Constitution is disingenuous bullshit. The "constitution" they believe in is white male Christian rule.) -- (talk) 11:32, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
Look, you guys should get off the globalism hobbyhorse now, under cover of the crisis. nobsFree Roger Stone! 00:32, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
No, I agree. Why are we spending our tax dollars on treating disgusting foreigners? US out of the UN! UN out of the US! If Trump had just sealed our borders, we wouldn't be having this problem. -- (talk) 05:10, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Andy does not like how things are going, blames everybody but Trump.[edit]

As far as I can tell Trump wanted both the FED to cut rates and The House to pass measures which excluded big business. In Andy's world Trump is blameless whilst the FED and Pelosi are the culprits[10][11]--Mercian (talk) 14:41, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

You might be onto something. I can't reconcile this [12] and [13]. nobsFree Roger Stone! 02:14, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Actually, the two are reconcilable. However the problem is with the tone. At a time of noise and conflicting messages, using cynicism toward established institutions equates to panic-mongering, which needs to be quieted. Confidence and clarity needs to be the message. I am daily tempted to trash the CDC for example, which has a long history of cronyism and corruption. From a nationalist perspective, I limit my criticism to the WHO which is a globalist institution, while passing on the CDC which is connected to Dr. Anthony Fauci whom we're relying on as our chief voice of clarity.
The normal, healthy conservative skepticism needs to be toned down at times like this. Following Trump's lead - Yes, conservatives need to counterpunch and flatten mutherfucking unfair lying partisan critics, but not take the lead in creating more excessive and unnecessary noise and confusion when clarity is needed.

Tracking "conservative" reactions to The Virus[edit]

If you've got some time to spare, why not enjoy watching the way Conservapedia - or any other "conservative" website - has flipped and flopped on the topic over the last few weeks. LondonGrump (talk) 06:30, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

They follow Trump's lead like they have no minds of their own. Fox News was very dismissive when Trump was but began to take it seriously after Trump acknowledged there was a problem. You should check out for numerous examples. As London is about to "close down" will that make you even more grumpy? Up here in Derbyshire we are just getting over The Black Death so have not had time to worry about Corona19--Mercian (talk) 11:28, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
London won't close down until it is forced to. Seeing the conditions for the lockdown in Spain, it's not a massively unreasonable proposition but Boris is all about small government: privatised profit, nationalised risk. If people die, it's our own fault.
The only thing making me grumpy at the moment, apart from the c*nt in Downing Street, is the missus. I wanted to cosplay a plague doctor on the tube and she won't let me. LondonGrump (talk) 18:10, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
I wonder if Andy Schlafly has now washed his hands for the first time in 40 years.Spud (talk) 15:27, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Somewhere down the line a great conservative statesman in the mold of Trump will have to admit climate change is real. The troops will fall into line and start revising history to show it was all the fault of liberals in the first place.--Mercian (talk) 00:33, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
They follow Trump's lead
Nah, don't think so. You employ a vulgar stereotype here. Everyone, particularly Trump supporters, know Trump (a) is not a medical guy; (b) is not a hard science guy; (c) is very selective as to who he takes advice from; (d) is being very very un-Trumpian in reading scripts with detail medical/scientific garble written by others that he, and nobody else, understands. And he doesn't even fake it very well that he understands these details (which is the traditional job of a president). Trump is trusting people who know more about something than he does, which goes against his nature, but he has immersed himself in trying to learn.
What is happening here is (or was) an opportunity for the mainstream fake news media to rehabilitate themselves. Sadly, many are failing badly. nobsFree Roger Stone! 00:56, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
You're right, he is very selective as to he takes advice from. He takes advice from people who tell him what he wants to hear. Anyone and I mean anyone who has done anything, however tiny that does not toe the party line has been shown the door. He has surrounded himself with Dominionists one of which is his number 2, religious fundamentalists, conspiracy theorists, science deniers and general sycophants all to get the vote of the Conservapedia demographic and it worked a treat. There are numerous news stories of how one conservative or another tells that God spoke to them telling them that Trump is the saviour of Israel and other such bullshit. They worship the ground he walks on.--Mercian (talk) 01:42, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
That's only part of the story. It's not unlike Biden's lurch leftward to pick up Sanders supporters.
Some time ago (2016) I speculated somewhere what type of president Trump would be. He follows the mold of FDR and Reagan. He paints a broad vision, then looks for people to make that vision work. Like FDR and Reagan, he's not immersed in details (like Carter, Papa Bush, Clinton, and Obama were). Believe it or not, Trump has "the vision thing"; few American president's were visionaries (Lincoln, TR, Wilson, FDR, Nixon); the rest are followers of the visionary president who alters the course of history.
And why would it be surprising for a real estate developer to be a visionary? That, in fact, is what make a real estate developer in every city, town, and community. A guy who can look at a piece of land and envision what it can look like 20 or 30 years hence, and makes it happen. This is a rare trait in humans. nobsFree Roger Stone! 02:23, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
You see FDR and Reagan, I see Harding. Lots of land development in the 1920s too.
BTW Rob, I'm enjoying your insights into the virus over on CP. You are a man of many talents! LondonGrump (talk) 06:02, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm not gonna pretend I understand anything about the scientific or medical aspects. I'm trying to focus on the economic impacts. But there is some overlap in statistical analysis, for example the "flattening the curve" really is a statistical or economic analysis more than a scientific/medical conclusion.
I just read Jon Rappaport's piece that says most Italian deaths are likely due to reactions to treatment, and not the coronavirus. [14] Nevertheless, the numbers get chalked up to the virus itself and making fodder for the panic-mongers. nobsFree Roger Stone! 07:04, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
"He paints a broad vision, then looks for people to make that vision work." You mean like getting Jared to ask his father-in-law to ask a Facebook group "What is coronavirus?" And when you look at the people he's employed to "make is vision work' - Dvos, Carson, Pompeo, and the rest of the dribbling simpletons, one can only assume his vision is "Destroy America." RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 12:47, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
I hope you stocked up on toilet paper, especially since you're taking a big healthy crap all over internet posting sites when nobody is interested in your hate-filled drivel over questions of life and death. nobsFree Roger Stone! 14:25, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Wow, Rob. Triggered much? Is it starting to sink that Trump's incompetence might get you killed? But hey, he's about to give another press conference, where he tells people he's not responsible, so run along and rah-rah in front of your TV. And fuck your faux rage about "questions of life and death" when you literally just posted conspiracy theory bullshit about "it's not the virus, it's the treatment." You really are an awful human being, you know that? RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 15:30, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
55% of Americans say 'fuck off'. nobsFree Roger Stone! 19:34, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
So... Mr Triggered, now all of a sudden you believe in polls. Funny how they're all fake news when they show his numbers in the shitter. How do you feel about Trump being unable to even offer a word of encouragement to the American people? Imagine you having to worship somebody with such little empathy. No wonder you're so defensive. And let's not get into the Tangerine Fuckwit (or do you prefer Gibbering Shitgibbon?) overruling an actual doctor, because he has a "feeling" some drug, in whose company he owns shares, will work? Remember when he said "I 15 cases, soon it'll be zero." It's 18,121 at the moment. When do you think Jared's going to finish his homework project? It's about time he handed it in, wouldn't you say? RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 20:04, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
PS Rob - the markets say fuck you & your President. He claims the highs were all him; guess what - he owns this too. Market's now lower than on Obama's last day. How your 401k doing?
DowJones.jpg -RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 21:04, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

What will them over there say when DT has to self-isolate? Anna Livia (talk) 15:03, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Rob, what is opinion of Andy's out and out diabolic opinion that there is a Coronavirus over-reaction and that the US Olympic Team is abandoning it's athletes?[15] Anyone with any intelligence would realise that cancelling Olympic training facilities "IS" protecting athletes and the Olympics going ahead ahead as usual is nothing but moronic. It is people with attitudes like him who spread the virus and make it worse, putting even more strain on an already struggling health service.. The Olympics will not go ahead this summer and is unlikely to do so anytime this year. When that happens of course it will be a liberal plot to stop America from heading the medal tables. I have not been this strong in my words before but the man is a moron.--Mercian (talk) 05:40, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Oh please, Andy is a Cunt and Rob is a bigger one for constantly tying himself in knots trying to defend him. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 09:55, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Not really. I posted this on MPR: [16] which says, "Stop listening to journalists. They don't know what they're talking about. Listen to Anthony Fauci and do not listen to anybody else." And what does he do? Headlines an attack on Dr. Fauci. nobsFree Roger Stone! 20:01, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
And did you call him out on it? Of course not, because you have to toe the Party line. Cowards, the lot of you. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 11:04, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Cunts are beautiful wonderful things that create life and give joy. Andy and Rob are none of that. -- (talk) 05:48, 31 March 2020 (UTC)