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Karajous un-prersoning is complete.[edit]

Nobs tells andy that CP is failing and blames anger bear for the failure. Oldusgitus (talk) 15:54, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Conservapedia under relentless troll attack.[edit]

[1] Over 500 blocks since 07.30 GMT this morning. Someone really has it in for them.--Mercian (talk) 22:47, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm not impressed. Vandals are wasting more time than the sysops are. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 00:08, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
I'm sure it was The Russians. Conservapedia is on it's stated course to replace television as the number one source of entertainment and The Conservative Bible Project is the most significant reform to Christianity since Protestant Reformation 500 years ago. This makes Andy the greatest philosopher of the century so far and he will likely still be considered so at it's end. Andy turning on Putin is a huge blow to Vladimir and is something he will not take lying down hence the trolling attacks.--Mercian (talk) 13:21, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Don't forget Rob's first class intel and analysis... LondonGrump (talk) 17:22, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Rob "Racist fascist scum at The White House" Smith (no racists attended AFPAC though, Conservative of The Year Majorie Taylor Greene is certainly not a racist) is the only reason that CP has not suffered a full blown cyber attack from Russia. Schalfly, Smith and Dmyer are cowards and wankers of the highest order and would hide or emigrate if America was ever attacked. I have said before that Schlafly is the worse but I think they are all as bad as each other. CP is so extreme that even the hate ridden Karajou quit. Speaking of trolling I think it is time to whip Kendol into a hate ridden frenzy again which I have done a number of times before and always ended up winning, he has "felt the sting" so much that if he were attacked by a hive of killer bees it would make no difference. Trolling a troll is not a problem in my book.--Mercian (talk) 17:52, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
None of these people are worth the effort. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 20:10, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Not worth a manual trolling frenzy, per se. The inability of Conservapedia's weak Captcha system to bar off a potential well-scripted bot attack provides for a basic demonstration of their laughably obsolete website structuring, a trait out of attribution to the desperation of Schlafly to conserve the outdated system code that barely supports Conservapedia. And my reply here is not to be taken as an implying of encouragement of anything. Ushit the dipshit (I shit, Ushit...) 20:24, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
A ceasefire was agreed to allow civilians to flee Mariupol but within 20 minutes the Russians started attacking the refugees. Smith's take on it. Ukrainian Nazis are trapped in the Mariupol cauldron[2]. So does he consider old people and kids to be Nazis? Speaking of real Nazis it was the Russians who attacked Babi Yar, the sight of one of the worst atrocities of the holocaust. He fails to mention that though. How very convenient. I hope someone not only takes the site down but destroys the entire content posted in the last 15 years--Mercian (talk)
Wot, even the edits I've made over the years? LondonGrump (talk) 22:24, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Mercian, the level of retaliatory vengeance you are advocating against Conservapedia in calling for the destruction of all their articles reaches a ridiculous level. Surely you are not implying that the massive article compilations of RJJensen, 1990'sguy, LT, and BHathorn can be objectively viewed of equal footing with this recent RobSmith propaganda? The perceived zealousness of your present state provides the appearance that you are sinking to a low typically expected only out of a sheer asshole Kenhole... Ushit the dipshit (I shit, Ushit...) 22:32, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Arsehole or not I stand by it.--Mercian (talk) 23:09, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Assuming the babbling head on that Youtube video actually matches the headline (questionable assumption and I don't give a shit enough to check), Nobs is basically unsurprisingly regurgitating Russian propaganda for this point. The Media Bias fact check on this "The Duran" podcast is a hoot. Basically, this is headed by a guy (Alexander Mercouris) who was a UK attorney, got disbarred for shady forgery shit, and reinvented himself as a propagandist for Russia Today and other Kremlin outlets. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 00:32, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
All editors who continues to edit Conservapedia after they have read the vile opinions that Andy. RobS and Ken have expressed are, to put it mildly, fucking arseholes. Realizing that Andy is a twat because he isn't going to make you a sysop is in no way comparable to realizing you shouldn't continue to contribute to a site that supports the stoning to death of gays.
However, I do not encourage, support, condone or celebrate the trolling or vandalism of Conservapedia. Don't be a troll. Co something more worthwhile with your time.Spud (talk) 01:38, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
I agree. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 01:43, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Personally I still sort of support the witty and intelligent vandalism of CP. There's an edit deep in there that lists a well known sex toy as a form of transportation and it's been there for years. It always makes me smile that there are possibly xian americans somewhere who read that and still think a sex toy is a vehicle. Oldusgitus (talk) 10:18, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

back in the day when people still occasionally mistook cp as a genuine attempt at a real factual encyclopedia, any one attempting to make good faith edits along those lines would inevitably be banned. it might have been a little justified for those folks to troll a little as they discovered what cp really was. now though good faith edits based on fact is trolling by definition. its clearly not a encyclopedia and anyone wishing to edit there would be aware of that by now. cp is a weird alternate universe for conservative fanfic. its not bullshit and lies in the articles that needs correcting with proper cites, its in universe lore for schafly and co's wet dreams. good faith edits do not include what really happens in the real world, real life isnt canon, canon for that place is trump wasnt a dogshit incompetent disgrace and all that christian forgiveness in the bible is liberal bias. you wouldnt go to a harry potter fan site and try to insert 'citation needed' at any suggestion magic is real and not be an obvious troll.
cp has that wrestling kayfabe thing going on to, keeping up the pretence off site so it seems. gotta admire the dedication to a bit, i guess. lets just be thankful they havent gotten round to putting in the staple of fanfic, a menage a trois between schafly, trump and putin. torn between an urbane all american hero, a poster boy of all that is good in america and an exotic force of nature of eastern promise, radiating a savage physical strength and brutally uncompromising righteous, whats a boy to do? the head says trump, but the heart says putin. how does one choose bewteen dreams when making one come true will see the other dream crushed completely and for all time? its just to much to bear.
honestly though, trolling just makes them think they are doing something right, got the right sort of people worried. in truth no one is paying attention. internet trolls and cp, or the hundreds of similar sites with a similar message, are all part of the same phenomenon. part of the self perpetuating tide of dogshit deluging the internet like a kind of unstoppable wmd. rationalwiki is probably too, to some degree. anything one site can put out is out there somewhere online. all the conspiracy theories, fake news, all the fact checkers and the debunking of it all, is out in the wild. other sites, reddits, tweets, facebook, memes, comments sections. its like plastic pollution, every tiny little bit on its own are insignificant grains of sand. but there is so much it, together its choking the ocean. no one is in control, no one is directing it all. it just gets added to once in a while by politicos and the like winding up the trolls and watching them go, but trolls have no off switch. you moderate to some degree on individual sites, and the big beasts like twitter can with filter and clear out some of the shit, given the will. but there will always be more and more shit washing up. trolling the folk at cp is self defeating. its just means more shit we have to clear up on our stretch of the beach. AMassiveGay (talk) 13:23, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Perhaps Rob is right as you can see here from "The Nazi Scum" fleeing from the great Russian liberators.[3][4][5] and being fired upon as they attempt to make their escape. Some of these "scum" even had the nerve to do this to a friendly Russian peace keeping vehicle[6] Sarcasm is not always obvious when typing--Mercian (talk) 13:59, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

If there is one thing that worms love, it's corpses![edit]

[7] Does he mean the corpses of young people murdered in Manchester or Norway. Perhaps he means the corpses of homosexuals in Conservapedia's ideal genocide or the corpses of Ukrainian civilians justified in that they support the "homosexual agenda" I could if I wanted link to dozens if not hundreds of posts where deaths of they consider undesirable are not only justified but glorified. One of the most infamous chants attributed to the terrorist groups he supports reads "I was walking up the Falls With my fucking tommy gun I grabbed a Taig and told him There was fuck all that could stop me. Then I shot him. And I watched that bastard die." Who has the death fetish Ken? --Mercian (talk) 11:11, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

And fuck you Ken just for talking about LeftyGreenMario like that, you despicable fucking arsehole! Spud (talk)
Once again, Ken just can't quit RW.
And much has been written on this already, but it is amazing how much people who claim to be "religious" have attached themselves to idol worship of the Angry Baby, who by all accounts is quite irreligious and is of questionable moral code. By all accounts Joe Biden is way more religiously observant. But I suspect that the world of the Ken is one where the "kingdom of liberalism/leftism/secular leftism" includes Pope Francis... PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 14:11, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Homophobia does not seem to one of Ken's major beefs, he only seems to bring it up when he is trying to gain the favour of Andy. Imagine flip flopping to gain brownie points of someone who is has devolved from a religious nut to genocide supporting Neo Nazi. I am not sure who is the worse.--Mercian (talk) 15:55, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
What a sack of shit, with hatred of someone who isn't heterosexual, dehumanization of me, and casual sexism of "lady leader". Y'know I think worms aren't asexual; they still participate in sexual intercourse. They're probably sexually attracted. People who aren't interested in a particular random activity and aren't attracted to things in a particular manner are generally asexual. If Ken find this hard to grasp, he can try imagining himself fucking a cactus. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 16:10, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Worms are hermaphrodites. Their sex is double-69, with each one fertilizing the other. Ken knows this and is horribly jealous. Whoover (talk) 17:31, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Indeed, it is the only way he would ever get to mate. The poodles and horses he seems to have a thing for have probably rejected him and his death fetish seems to be going nowhere so he has nowhere left to turn. Question: Why does he keep picking fights with RW editors when he gets trounced every time usually followed with pages of over-sites?--Mercian (talk) 17:42, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
He has to find some point in his sorry existence. He does think he's part of a grand cause. He really thinks he has an audience besides two people in the auditorium, one of them his mom. It's sad. I'm sure the crap I write on this wiki has been subjected to more eyeballs. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 20:36, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Oh, he's still at it? Seems like there's a problem. He should try some horse dewormer. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 00:23, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Amazing, how a conversation about WWIII, the threat of nuclear war and the collapse of the global financial system gets turned into a discussion about a certain godless wiki. It's not Putin or NATO's fault if we all get nuked or end up in the stone age, it RW's. Dutchbag (talk) 06:17, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

The party line on Ukraine[edit]

So I don't reallyt do much more than pop in to CP every now and again, but I am finding it interesting about how MPR can't seem to decide if we're supposed to root for Russia or Ukraine RagingHippie (talk) 22:51, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

It's a very confusing state of affairs. Acei9 23:09, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
Ken occasionally comes down on the right side of the argument. Rob on the other hand stands by a man who may turn out to be the most despotic leader in the Kremlin's history. Bearing in mind Stalin, Lenin, Ivan the Terrible and a number of crocked Tsars have held that position that is quite an achievement, Even Stalin never directly threatened to nuke his neighbours. Keep up the pressure on him Ken. Slava Ukraini.--Mercian (talk) 17:30, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
They don’t know who to back. Russia technically an enemy of the US but Trump said Putin was very smart and backed him, then Biden said some harsh words against the invasion. So they are confused but if Biden said it was bad then it must be good - invading a sovereign country. Acei9 19:40, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

RobS’s rationalisation of Russia’s invasion[edit]

Would love to know how he can twist the Russian bombing of a maternity ward. Full of Nazi’s? Crisis actors? It never happened? The mind boggles. Acei9 05:12, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Oh, the old 'Belgian babies on German bayonets'Wikipedia routine again. Dutchbag (talk) 11:53, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Hey, look, here's Russia's foreign minister copping to it and trying to justify it, proving you utterly wrong in record time: Mariupol hospital was base for Ukraine nationalists, says Russian foreign minister. Queexchthonic murmurings 12:48, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Intelligence suggests that Russia are ready to use chemical and/or biological weapons. Rob already has that one covered preemptively blaming Ukraine for any such action.[8]--Mercian (talk) 16:45, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Ukrainmian military and militias are using civilian human shields. Not entirely different than Hamas. Dutchbag (talk) 20:00, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Some fantastic victim blaming here. All Ukraine's fault. You called me a asshole, I call you an utter fucking wanker. Are you Rob in disguise?--Mercian (talk) 21:24, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
@Mercian I mean he talks like Rob so... ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 22:55, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
🤔 --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 22:56, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Oh, and for the record, Russia is engaging in an actual, no holds barred, war. Dutchbag might want to read up on this military theorist Called Clausewitz, who wrote a book called Vom Kriege, a book I have quoted from in the past. A book that straight up says stuff like " Violence arms itself with the inventions of Art and Science in order to contend against violence. Self-imposed restrictions, almost imperceptible and hardly worth mentioning, termed usages of International Law, accompany it without essentially impairing its power. Violence, that is to say, physical force (for there is no moral force without the conception of States and Law), is therefore the means; the compulsory submission of the enemy to our will is the ultimate object. In order to attain this object fully, the enemy must be disarmed, and disarmament becomes therefore the immediate object of hostilities in theory. It takes the place of the final object, and puts it aside as something we can eliminate from our calculations. " Which in summery pretty much says each side will do whatever it takes to win. Personally, I don't think Russia is stupid enough to hobble themselves with concerns for human rights, especially not at this point in the campaign. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 23:02, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Putin has never given a fuck for human rights or democracy. FFS he's used polonium on the streets of London and novichok on the streets of salisbury. That's why the likes of Rob have wet dreams over him. Putin is able to do all the things that far right shit heads like nobs would love to do given the chance. Oldusgitus (talk) 05:24, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Good post! Russia isn't a liberal democracy, and acting like it is one is foolish and stupid. Putin has no qualms about ordering atrocities in order to get ahead politically. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Putin must have read Clausewitz (In order to attain this object fully, the enemy must be disarmed) when he announced at the outset the aim was to demilitarize Ukraine. This was the mistake the U.S. made in Iraq which became apparent immediately - the U.S. never even attempted to disarm Saddam's army. Dutchbag (talk) 16:18, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
I've been largely sitting this out because, like with Brexit, I respect but do not share other people's emotional investment - I've got one eye on what the Face Eating Leopard Party have planned for us back here under cover of the crisis - but "no holds barred war"? Where's the air power? LondonGrump (talk) 07:08, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Even some of the most vile far right types such as Trump, MTG and Cawthorne have come out against Putin but not Rob. What do you think it will take for him to flip? Putin nuking a major city like Kyiv or perhaps one closer to home like Paris, London, NYC or even his home town or would he blame the 3 year old Nazis lying in pools of blood whose bodies cannot be retrieved as any rescuer would share their fate?--Mercian (talk) 15:45, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
You're forgetting that nobs is incapable for forming his own rational argument. Somebody in Infowars/Beyond Top Secret/8chan/the alley where he trades blowjobs for crack has said that Putin is the good guy, and so, until they say otherwise, Putin is the good guy. Also, Blowing Up Civilians To Own The Libs. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 11:40, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

I can't be arsed to WIGO this.[edit]

But nobs once again manages to sink below even the shit filled depths I already thought he'd attained. Oldusgitus (talk) 19:26, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

I'll probably do it, but I need to hop on my phone since is blocked on the network I am currently on. PoorlyDrawnRockford.jpeg Rockford the Roe boop my snootpraise Oscar Wilde 13:44, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
I'm enjoying Rob idolising Stalin and the victorious Red Army of Marshal Zhukov. LondonGrump (talk) 22:30, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
RobS tankie arc 😳😳😳😳😳😳 PoorlyDrawnRockford.jpeg Rockford the Roe boop my snootpraise Oscar Wilde 13:44, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
He's also advocating breaking the law live on Conservapedia. The Russian website may not be subject to copyright but the material on that site still is. Who do we need to report him to? :)--Mercian (talk) 00:19, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
I guess if the Russians have been the traditional enemy of America, Joe McCarthy must've been right. Dutchbag (talk) 09:48, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Only if you learn history from TV movies. LondonGrump (talk) 11:53, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Which you can illegally downloaded from a Russian streaming site.--Mercian (talk) 14:22, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Correcting typo[edit]

With the 'New Year's Resolution' line - should it be 'Thus proceeds' or 'This precedes'? Anna Livia (talk) 09:56, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Only *good Christian* swear![edit]

Lol, everyone know you are Ken, User:Conservative. I like how much you like to deny that this isn't about you. (By the way doesn't work and update the page from what Ken wrote. Here is the latest version. Could someone please run the weblink through the archiver again as this archive is not the latest version.) Could (talk) 10:19, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Ha ha, I'm glad someone else saw that. Apparently we are all scared shitless of him. He is so brave, such a warrior that as soon as someone comments on it it is deep burned. "Pro sodomite sluts and whores".--Mercian (talk) 10:23, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
When he say that? Could (talk) 10:28, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
That we are scared of him? I misread the article when I saw it being half asleep at the time. Re reading it we are terrified of Greg Bahnsen who nobody has ever heard of.--Mercian (talk) 10:40, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Oh no when he said "Pro sodomite sluts and whores". Could (talk) 10:49, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Right. You see Kendol has a history of supporting far right terrorism if their victims are who he considers undesirable. He speaks favourably about Anders Breivik saying what he did was wrong but as his victims were liberal "secular leftists" leaders of the future he supports his ideals if not his actions. In a similar vain he condemned the actions of Salman Abedi who carried out The Manchester Arena Bombing but described his victims, mostly children or young adults, one as young as 8, as "Pro sodomite sluts and whores" for going to an Ariana Grande concert in the first place. He has also very recently supported Loyalist Terrorists in Northern Ireland because their victims were overwhelmingly Catholic who he does not consider "Proper Christians". Whenever he decides to try to take the moral high ground I give him a gentle reminder.--Mercian (talk) 11:30, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
WHAT THE COMPLETE FUCK??? Could (talk) 11:34, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
He is possibly not even the worst sysop on Conservapedia unbelievable as it may seem. Schlafly himself as stated the the great conservative bastion of freedom and free speech that is Putin was right to invade Ukraine saying his pretense and justification in doing so was because of a LGBT rally held in Kyiv. He has also supported stoning to death homosexuals and lamented when Brunei reversed their law in allowing them to be executed in such a way. Rob Smith supports the mass murder and possible genocide in The Ukraine because every single Ukrainian is a Nazi. You only have have to read anyone and everyone of his posts in the past 3 months to confirm this. All three in my mind are neo-fascist wankers.--Mercian (talk) 12:05, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Props to Ken for having the word "fuck" on the "family-friendly" hate blog. Also, who the fuck is Greg Bahnsen? RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 18:05, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
All it took was getting rid of Karajou, and now they have no problem goose-stepping around, screaming "Seig heil!" at the top of their lungs. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 15:39, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Screaming "Schafly is Conservapedia and Conservapedia is Schafly. Schafly! Hail Victory!"
Amazing. I had no idea that I was scared of a terminally online 50+ year old reactionary with poor writing skills. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:52, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Conservapedia is really turning into a circus. 71.208.x.x (talk) 01:17, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Even worse, it's boring. LondonGrump (talk) 07:58, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Yes, it's nowhere near as funny as it used to be. On the other hand, claiming that I'm afraid of some dead guy I've never heard of was a good attempt to get back into the game.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 08:09, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

"All it took was getting rid of Karajou, and now they have no problem goose-stepping around, screaming "Seig heil!" at the top of their lungs." Amazing. If you had told me back in the day that Karajou was the voice of reason... (I wasn't paying attention, tho: what happened to him?) RagingHippie (talk) 19:12, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Karajou quit because of Rob and LT (who is a teenager) are both idiots. 71.208.x.x (talk) 19:56, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Karajou had all the nasty qualities that the other sysops had. He did however have one quality that is positive to the vast majority but abhorrent to CP.--Mercian (talk) 23:39, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Smith devolves from wanker to downright evil bastard.[edit]

He continues to support Putin even after a protest, a peaceful protest mind you, was shelled by his thug genocidal army with possibly hundreds dead. That hell you believe in Rob, well Satan is waiting there to shove a red hot poker up your behind. Evil bastard.--Mercian (talk) 13:31, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

It does seem that the report was somewhat over stated ans they were only attacked with stun grenades. What is not in doubt though was a Russian tank fired at a car occupied by a family before peppering it with machine gun fire before setting fire to it, it was all filmed by a drone. By the way you are not fooling me with your sock puppetry dipshit, a name that suits you well. In my opinion Boris, Macron, Biden etc should stop acting like they are descendants of Neville Chamberlain and actually do something about it.--Mercian (talk) 15:22, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
I'm guessing it'll just be a matter a time before he tells us all the massacred civilians in Bucha are crisis actors. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 07:01, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
He's already there, man. Russian media is currently laying the groundwork for they-were-Nazis-who-had-it-coming, so it's likely that's where Rob will end up, too. Le législateur (talk) 11:43, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Apparently they were AZOV Regiment which makes me wonder how large a Ukrainian regiment is. In practice a small regiment or battalion has 500 -800 members. The AZOV regiment must have a strength of 20000-30000 thousand which includes old women, children and unborn babies. --Mercian (talk) 21:51, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
I see we've reached the "justifying genocide to own the libs" stage of right-wing fascism. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 10:17, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────And now the crawling sack of shite that is rob smith glorifies in the fact that putin is openly threatening to nuke the UK. Oldusgitus (talk) 12:58, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Russia could destroy the UK with nukes no doubt but make no mistake The UK also has the capability to destroy Russia. The movement and location of the Vanguard Class Trident subs is top secret but at least one is at sea at full readiness at all times and there is a good chance another is also deployed. I am guessing one is somewhere in The Arctic and the other if deployed is in the north-west Indian Ocean. That would be 96 warheads ready to go and if only 10% hit their target Russia would be fucked. To add to that France also has one SSBN deployed and America several, I believe they would also respond. Attacking anyone with nukes would see Russia as we know it be no more.--Mercian (talk) 16:00, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Rob's incorporated the Z symbol into his tagline. Twat. LondonGrump (talk) 20:07, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Debunking the attacks on the Left from Conservapeida[edit]

For awhile I have been trying to debunk this page on Conservapedia: The title alone is cringe: "Left-wing violence under the Biden junta (2021-22)"

There is so much to go over. Can I please have some help — Unsigned, by: 289blue / talk / contribs

On talk pages, please sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the sign button: SigButt.png on the toolbar above the edit panel. You can also indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line. Thank you.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 08:42, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Most of their sources converge to a site called gateway pundit. It's a pro trump website. HighboiWhen the king and the pawn are in the same box 07:11, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

What do you mean by debunk it? Where? You certainly won't get far posting anything on CP.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 08:46, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Having taken a little gander at the thing in question, it seems like refuting each of the perhaps 130 'incidents' would a) take forever and b) be pointless. As Highboi points out, if you really 'feel the need' to refute it all perhaps the best bet would be to attack it's main 'source', the Gateway Pundit. Destroy the credibility of the source, the claims then fall on it's arse.
In this case, if you are going to do this, perhaps you could do it via improving the RW article on it? KarmaPolice (talk) 14:11, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
You ain't ever going to debunk anything on cp. If you post anything that goes against their hateful rhetoric it will be reverted and you will be blocked. You're wasting your time and noone will waste their time 'helping' you. Wnat to check, post something that goes against rob's hero worshipping of putin and the russian atrocities in Ukraine.Oldusgitus (talk) 15:35, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
This is a gish gallop anyways, two accounts (as mentioned, one a fanatically pro-Putin one) are basically throwing all the shit they can, even if there is zero relation to Joe Biden. You have to be in some alternate fantasy world where a Twitter feud between Lil Nas X and Kaitlin Bennett actually matters to anyone, let alone the Biden administration.
The Gateway Pundit has a habit seen across the worst right-wing media, where apolitical crime stories are falsely spun to being committed by left-wing boogeymen. They've done it enough for The Other Wiki to have an entire section on thisWikipedia, and it's also mentioned in a single paragraph on the Rationalwiki article. This Conservapedia page seems to rely heavily on Gateway Pundit's "all criminals must be BLM antifa liberals!" bullshit spin (I checked a couple that definitely fit this pattern at least), so I would concur that the best way to attack this page would be to expand the depiction of the Gateway Pundit's fake news tendencies. Meh (talk) 17:55, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
So there are really a number of problems here. Firstly, I completely agree that it's a sort of Gish Gallop in that every one of these unfortunate claims would require a response which would often be substantially longer than the claim itself, and producing that would need a hell of a lot of time and effort. Secondly, I'm still not clear where this proposed (and regularly updated) rebuttal would be posted. The "logical" place would Conservapedia as people would be easily able to compare the claim and rebuttal. But we all know that there is absolutely no possibility of it being posted there. I guess that we might host it if there were sufficient community interest. But that leads me to my third point - who would the audience for this massive exercise be and how would they find it after reading the Conservapedia article?Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 18:17, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
CP's Biden pages are so self-evidently stupid that I skipped past debunking and went straight towards making fun of them. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 19:17, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
You need to use the same techniques employed by Deborah Lipstadt's lawyer in Irving v. Penguin Books Ltd. It would have been a vast waste of time covering every point that David Irving made in his ongoing output of antisemitic trash, an exact parallel to the Gish Gallop techniques employed by CP and its ilk. The defense instead focused on Irving's complete double standards for evidence and facts and the threshold for what truth is, depending on the source and the intent of the material. It's in the same vein as Rob Smith screaming himself into a frothing rage over the police murder of a white woman by a black officer, and the character assassination that followed (which is police SOP in these cases), yet fail to see any wrongdoing or root-cause connection linked to any knee-jerk murder of a black person by a white officer that results in the same character assassination etc. Don't indict them on what they try to present as reason and fact; indict them on their fucked standards of evidence, and keep hammering it. Semipenultimate (talk) 15:56, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
...and every time you hammer you validate their embattled world view...LondonGrump (talk) 05:59, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
I agree, it's very convenient for their perpetual-victimhood narrative, but if you have another alternative to refuting an endless stream of PRATTs that works, I'd like to hear it. Semipenultimate (talk) 15:28, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Nobs sadism towards Ukraine driving people out of CP[edit]

I dunno, I feel like CP is even more empty nowadays. Even Ken has been absent. The only reason I can think of is Nobs cheering for Russia and Putin in the war. Indeed sad, though I'm glad he's not here anymore so we don't have to see his garbage on RW too. GeeJayK (talk) 13:59, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Knobs does not care about Russia, The Ukraine or Conservapedia he cares about his almighty god that is Donald Trump. Putin enabled Trump and Zelensky denied him, that is where his stance comes from, same goes for Schafly. Trump initially condemned the invasion therefore so did Schafly and Smith was quiet on the matter. Trump has since pulled back on his condemnation and Schalfy's posts have becoming more anti Ukraine and Smith has ran riot. The pair were very pro NATO before Trump's criticism of the organisation so now they hate it and if Trump is OK with mass murder and genocide so are they. What a pair of abhorrent automatons they are.--Mercian (talk) 22:44, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Seriously, if Rob wasn't busy trolling about the war, there would prolly be fewer than 20 edits a day there. RagingHippie (talk) 23:02, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
Rob added a "Z" to his signature. Funny, I spent a couple of hours today arguing on Facebook with a tankie with the same Z sign on his profile. GeeJayK (talk) 01:51, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

First there was gay bowel syndrome and now this![edit]

[9] Hey Ken, it was five years yesterday that your hero Salman Abedi carried out his attacks. He also hated gays and which is one of the reasons you adore him. I forget the other. Oh yeah I remember now. "Pro sodomite sluts and whores"--Mercian (talk) 04:05, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Checking out Conservapedia for the first time[edit]

With all the talk about Conservapedia on this site I wanted to see it for myself, just out of morbid curiosity.

It only took looking at a few articles for me to get fed up with all the ridiculousness and nonsense that is clearly overflowing on that site.

Figured you all would want to know 😁BJA2112 (talk) 05:54, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

A good example is MAGA cultist, anti mask, anti vaccine, anti any COVID measures execute Fauci twats blaming people they don't like for spreading a virus.--Mercian (talk) 11:03, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Can someone explain this paradox to me.[edit]

Liberals are anti second amendment who hate guns and want to remove all firearms from society yet every single mass shooting is carried out by liberals. How does Lord Andy come up with such twisted logic?--Mercian (talk) 20:16, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

The cunning bastards want to disarm everyone so they can impose their Satanic Marxist Liberal dictatorship. Shootings like this serve two purposes: as a false flag and to warn us of the butchery to come when the bloodsucking commie space lizards harvest children for their fluids. Obvs. LondonGrump (talk) 05:40, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Or this other paradox: the US is not the only market for video games yet it's the only place they cause mass murder. Asia consumes more video games than the US, and Europe about as much. What is it about the US that makes it alone so susceptible to gamer-mediated unpredictable deaths? Whoover (talk) 20:44, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

I know this is going to be controversial and I expect nobody here to agree but I wonder if it has anything to do with guns. After all Europe and Asia are full of atheists and article upon article on CP overwhelmingly show that atheist heathens are far more likely to commit violence and other appalling acts than God following religious people. I appologise if I have offended anyone with this suggestion as other articles on CP and other respected sites such as Fox News and The Gateway Pundit overwhelmingly show that the more guns a society has the fewer violent crimes it experiences. This is backed up by a high percentage of representatives in national, state and local governments.--Mercian (talk) 00:36, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Another fact that shows that I am wrong is that a prominent American human rights advocacy group also shows that more guns equals fewer violent incidents.[10]. Of course one human right they don't support is the right for primary school children not to get shot in the head with a fucking assault rifle.--Mercian (talk) 00:51, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Yep, can't be guns. It's a real mystery. Whoover (talk) 02:08, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Using Occam's razor it comes down to one thing, The Azov Battalion. They were responsible for infiltrating the Unite The Right march in Charlottesville, the recent mass shooting in Buffalo, the Jan 6 Insurrection attempt and of course, perverting the real meaning of The Great Replacement Theory.[11]. I am not sure how they managed the Buffalo incident as they were wiped out weeks before by the great liberating Russian Army--Mercian (talk) 03:24, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Another clear observation, all these Western/adjacent democracies with strict gun laws, haven't turned into hell holes. But I was certain once you lose rights to have guns, all the other rights disappear as well...-RipCityLiberal (talk) 23:01, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Speaking of authoritarianism there was a guest speaking on Fox News who suggested The US should declare martial law to protect gun owners. Every other civil liberty be damned as long as unhinged 18 year olds are allowed to carry assault rifles and commit massacres. He also suggested training and arming not only teachers but students as young as third grade. Sick bastard.--Mercian (talk) 03:59, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Word is, klan victims aren't too keen on gun control. With all the white supremacy and institutional racism in America, a minority would be crazy to go unarmed. If George Floyd had a gun, insurance companies wouldn't have had to shell out $2 billion. Dutchbag (talk) 09:36, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
'As a Brit' (so I may misunderstand things) the Second Amendment implies that 'ownership of weapons' also means 'membership of a militia' - and proponents of gun holding would squawk massively if made to do national service.
I see no prospect of reform - so many massacres, #and massacres of children# and only statements that 'something must be done' (but nothing actually is). Would anything be done even if there was 'a major incident' (police jargon usage) at the NRA convention itself.
Going by some some of the discussions on FB there is much bleating comparing abortion with massacres - but like is not being compared to like: a significant proportion of abortions will be of foetuses with severe health issues, health issues with the mother, and where there has been violence etc in the conception or 'severe domestic/environmental issues'. Anna Livia (talk) 11:21, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
What came first, the chicken or the egg? your right 'to keep and bare arms'? or being a member of 'a well regulated militia'? And the law specifically says 'the right of the people', i.e. 'the people' (aka private ownership and/or possession) not 'the states' or the federal regime. And if SCOTUS hasn't ruled your way yet in 250 years, it's still not likely anytime soon. Dutchbag (talk) 04:42, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
"Your way"? What kind of fuckwit sees this a your side vs my side thing? LondonGrump (talk) 12:33, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
A fuckwit that has the Neo-Nazi Z symbol attached to his signature on CP.--Mercian (talk) 17:08, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
In the UK we do things differently - and massacres are very rare (but we do have the right to reveal our upper limbs): there was a statistic somewhere that the US has had 200 massacres already this year. There does appear to be some connection between 'a militia' and 'the right to bear arms' in the US.
I accept that 'many gun owners' will be reasonably responsible (hunting, target practice, re-enactment societies etc) - but it is they who should be doing something or when 'the incidents that cause kneejerk legislation to be enacted' finally occur they will be caught up willy-nilly (see examples elsewhere). Anna Livia (talk) 23:41, 3 June 2022 (UTC)