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British politics

Unlike what Rob S says, is not rabid (rabies has been locally extinct since 1922), and is not partisan - possibly something to do with the 1313 statute about armour in parliament and the separation distance of the two red lines. Besides there are more examples of this in the US than the UK (with this being a special case). Anna Livia (talk) 23:28, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm assuming you refer to comments I made based upon American experiences with cp:Christopher Steele. Steele was quite an idiot in not understanding anything about the American political system, bureaucracy, media, constitutional rights, the American sense of fair play and even freedom of speech. He evidently thought whatever outrageous crap that must be common currency in UK electoral politics could be duplicated in the United States. Sure, he found kindred spirits among Democrats, the FBI, and journalists, but it all stunk to high heaven from the day he started his bullshit. And the fucking idiots in the Democrat party, Obama administration, and American media today have nothing but damaged careers, or are in denial about the massive fraud perpetrated upon the American people. And Steele to this day believes his rabid partisan lies and nonsense is perfectly acceptable and rational. I conclude the only way such deranged views about people and society is the product of the environment he hails from. nobs^{Free Roger Stone!} 02:19, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

I came to these conclusions after reading the Katheleen Kavalec notes. How a formerly high level intelligence official and heir of the US/UK 'special relationship' that defeated Hitler and the Soviet Union could be so profoundly ignorant of the U.S. political system was stunning. He evidently truly believed the bullshit he dumped in Kathleen Kavalec's lap was perfectly legitimate and acceptable to achieve some political end. Maybe in the UK its acceptable and routine, but here in the U.S. we still do have a few civil servants with integrity. nobs^{Free Roger Stone!} 02:34, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Your response makes no reference to the systems in the British Isles (ie Parliament, devolved governments in Ireland, Scotland and Wales, the House of Keys, and the governments of Jersey and Guernsey). Anna Livia (talk) 19:49, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

That's bollocks mate. I cannot recall any serious UK politician calling for the imprisonment of their political opponents, not even with the DUP and Sinn Fein who are historically deadly enemies. Neither have I heard a politician mutter anything similar to Pizzgate or QANON. I have no beef with neighbours or friends who vote differently from me and my attitude is typical. Even in the most vicious BREXIT debates did The UK, politicians and public, come close to the partisanship and hatred that is seen in America every day.--Mercian (talk) 03:17, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Rob, like the rest of the CP crew, know fuck all about Britain or Europe. They watch Steve Turley videos or read websites that are seventeen links removed from the primary source, add the first number they thought of, reverse it, take away six then shoehorn it into whatever position their leaders have adopted today. They are like very stupid Stalinists on magic mushrooms. Humour them. LondonGrump (talk) 06:41, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

(ec) No, I'm referring to the former head of MI6 Russia Desk sitting with a State Department official 30 days before the election, spewing obvious, admittedly, fraudulent partisan bullshit looking for help to rig an election. Now in the UK, elections happen in 30 days; in the US, the FBI, DOJ, and other Departments are restricted from giving the appearance of partisan actions 60 days prior to an election.

Yes, we have our mindless, rabid partisans; but for a former high level intelligence official who thinks bald faced lies and bullshit is going to sway the U.S. Justice Department to violate its own departmental regulations to engage in a conspiracy with foreigners to interfere in an election -- sure, this crap has been routine in the British Empire for decades if not centuries. But that sort of politicking sets us apart from the UK. Yes, we have stupid voters vulnerable to manipulation. No, our federal system is designed to resist such naked outside partisan and ideological interference.

Steele, a foreigner, waltzes into a State Department office and says, "Hey, the election is in 3 weeks. Here's some crap 'we' can use to win for 'our' side." Only a rabidly partisan culture, with values like that engrained in their bureaucracy produces such gangsters - cause the voting public has come to expect and accept it. nobs^{Free Roger Stone!} 07:02, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Spot on, Rob, spot on. LondonGrump (talk) 18:15, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Presumably the Republicans who initially employed Steele were utter morons.Bob^{"Life is short and (insert adjective)"} 19:10, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

We been over this a thousand times: the Free Beacon employed FusionGPS until the end of March when Trump won enuff delegates; Hillary Clinton picked up the contract then. FusionGPS hired Steele on June 12, 2016. Steele was never employed by any Republican client.

It is bullshit like that -- a steadfast refusal to ever come clean in the face of indisputable facts -- why partisans like yourself can never regain any credibility. Time for some soul searching, my friend. nobs^{Free Roger Stone!} 23:08, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

How much of 'Unparliamentary Language' - [1] and [2] etc has been used in this and related US contexts? Anna Livia (talk) 19:49, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Rob, you posted that the Democrats are obstructing a stimulus relief package, a package that was passed by the Democratic controlled House but failed in the Republican controlled Senate. I give up, you are not a stupid man, you know what you are posting is deliberately misleading bullshit. --Mercian (talk) 08:16, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Seems like I was wrong, apologies.--Mercian (talk) 12:00, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

That's very noble of you, and much appreciated. nobs^{Free Roger Stone!} 23:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Two metres

Conservapedia proven right!

The UK government keeps saying people should keep 2m apart and all I can think of is Ed Poor's masterpiece from long ago. Avida Dollars^{her again} 09:10, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

It is as the prophesy foretold!!!!

Also: cf: "Conservapedia Proven Right." RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 15:24, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

The jingle, if anyone wants it:

'A metre's three-foot-three.

It's longer than a yard you see.'

(The litre and kilogram versions on request.) Anna Livia (talk) 19:54, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Hahaha. Years ahead of his time. Helena Bonham Carter (talk) 02:17, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

'A statement of fact cannot be insolent' (though CP's interpretation of it may be). Anna Livia (talk) 12:53, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be

'A metre's three-foot-three-ish.

It's longer than a yard you see. Ish.'

51.6.140.42 (talk) 17:24, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

That was how the ditty went.

'Two and a quarter pounds of jam

Weigh about a kilogram'

'A litre of water's

A pint and three quarters'

For most people a sufficiently close approximation: and the UK is prepared to combine measurements (rubber bands being 6 inches long, 3 millimetres wide). Anna Livia (talk) 18:19, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

The actual version of the metre rhyme was: "a metre measures three foot three; it's longer than a yard, you see". 2A00:23C6:548B:E500:6843:BCB1:B495:1E3E (talk) 15:06, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Ditties evolve - and the key point is the numbers. Is there a ditty for Fahrenheit and Centigrade? (I know the fraction 5/8 or 8/5 is involved and the number 32 gets added or subtracted, but not more). Anna Livia (talk) 17:15, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Shout out to Rob

Seeing as the Conservapedia party line is now that Italy's government is leaning left, you might like to memory hole this. You're welcome. LondonGrump (talk) 17:47, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

According to Andy, any government that isn't actively hanging gays and atheists from lampposts, is left-leaning. Unless they're Muslim. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 18:49, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Sadly that is true. Early last year when Brunei bought in the law to stone gay people it was a "Setback for the homosexual agenda" A week or so later when Brunei announced it would not stone them to death it was "Caving to leftists" leaving absolutely no doubt on his position. I have not yet seen the ultra pro life Andy back Trump's proposed abandonment of 4,000,000 Americans to Covid19 to shore up the economy and his re election chances but I have no doubt he will. Remember, pro life starts at conception and ends with the birth, after that they are on their own.--Mercian (talk) 23:05, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

I have said with facetiousness that Ken has blood on his hands, he hasn't, it was pointless sparring and unnecessary. Andy will have though, another appalling post from him today [3] praising a moronic pastor for defying a state ban and holding a service for 1000+ people in his mega church which over-zealous liberals tried to stop. Conservatives are supposed to be pro life and pro law and order. Supporting this is both pro death and defiance of the law. I think a more appropriate stance is that they pro life and pro law and order ONLY if and when it suits their ideology.--Mercian (talk) 02:04, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

You raise an interesting moral point, Mercian. Although there is nothing close to equivalence yet, let's use the example of the Holocaust. Who was to blame? The camp guards? The men who drove the trains to the camps? The men who maintained the locomotives and track? The people who fed and clothed the maintenance staff? The people who staffed the shops that supplied the food and clothes? The truck drivers that delivered to the shops? The Circle of Guilt becomes fainter and fainter, even though every last person in that chain contributed in his or her small way to the enormity of the Shoah. However, the lines are more defined when you look at who cheered the Nazis, who them explicit, vocal moral support, who gave them the eucharist.

Ken may not have blood on his hands now but he fully supports and enables those who do. Now.

If "it happened here" and a new Anne Frank was in his neighbour's attic, what do you think he would do? LondonGrump (talk) 07:43, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

I am not sure what he would do but at least he is taking this threat seriously. It has been quite a sudden change from posting pictures of cute dogs and blaming atheists who eat them for the disease to posting coherent postings such as how the curve needs to be flattened, people need to isolate and if the economy takes a hit so be it. Andy is still posting that the spring months are a "setback for global warning" as the virus fares better in the cold. How the Olympics will (Conservapedia proven wrong)and should go ahead and praising a church crowd that some League Two teams would be happy to get. People can change their views, it seems Ken's at least on this issue have tempered whilst Andy has done the impossible and moved further into right wing lunacy than ever before.--Mercian (talk) 08:01, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

And just like that, he proves you right and me wrong.[4]--Mercian (talk) 09:51, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

One thing remains constant. Ken, like most of his buddies, can't evaluate evidence for toffee. LondonGrump (talk) 13:52, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

They still fawn to Trump like he is God. The man who two weeks ago declared himself a War President surrendered two days ago. No clue, no empathy, no intelligence, no chutzpah and a complete lack of Machismo. The macho man surrendered without a fight, thinking only of himself and his political future. Trump's new standard is a white cross on a white background, appropriate for a coward. Churchill promised nothing but blood, toil, tears and sweat, that's what a war leaders does. Trump offers false hope, pseudoscience and selfishness. --Mercian (talk) 08:34, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Look, the racist Mexicans just closed the border with the US, and the racist totalitarian Democrat governor of Rhode Island set up border check points and is incarcerating New Yorkers in quarantine gulags without trial. You guys need to seriously rethink some deeply held positions. nobs^{Free Roger Stone!} 23:17, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Ken wants a Rob to send a message to London Grump.

As Rob has refused in the past to pass on messages from Ken and he is too cowardly to do so in person here it is before he bravely over-sites the post. [5]

Re: "One thing remains constant... [User: Conservative]..., like most of his buddies, can't evaluate evidence for toffee. LondonGrump (talk) 13:52, 26 March 2020 (UTC)"

Please tell LondonGrump that I know there is plenty of evidence pointing to secular leftism and globalism dropping like a rock in influence and right-wing nationalism and religious fundamentalism gaining influence.

"Others migrated from Rational Wiki to alt-right online hubs like 4Chan and Reddit." - BreakPoint, December 23, 2019 (reprinted in Chatanooga Times Free Press)[6]

Lastly, ask him to read the article Atheism and evidence which ranks #10 at a popular search engine that begins with a G for the phrase "Atheism and evidence". What proof and evidence does he have that atheism is a valid worldview?Conservative (talk) 02:22, 27 March 2020 (EDT)

Brave Sir Kenneth ran away, when danger reared it's ugly head he bravely turned his heels and fled, Brave brave Sir Kenneth.--Mercian (talk) 08:47, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Is he still doing that "popular search engine that begins with a G" shit? It's like it's 2012 again. (And I wish it fucking was.) Spud (talk) 13:43, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Evidence for toffee - [7] and [8] (and many, many, many other sites and cookbooks). Anna Livia (talk) 17:11, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Brave Sir Kendol, do you honestly think that if this drug that your pseudo doctor is pushing was an effective cure that the whole world would be crying for it? They are not because he is speaking bullshit, dangerous bullshit at that as stupid naive people like yourself fall for it and are given false hope. As you push this crap the the infection and death rate continues to rise exponentially. If only they listened to you eh, the man who thinks that atheism is the route of all the worlds health problems. Where is your God now Ken? Why has he not answered the prayers of all good conservatives and rid the world of this awful disease?--Mercian (talk) 19:16, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Hey, Ken, I'm flattered. If none of your collective wants to come here and join in, why not send someone to fix the thing about Italy moving to the populist right. You know, the Italy you think is moving to the left. You know, the one you have evidence for moving to the right. That one. LondonGrump (talk) 21:56, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

It's a miracle medicine, meanwhile the US has over 100,000 cases and rising sharply. It is very likely that the US will have the highest infection and death rate before this is over. If the response where the responsibility of anyone else than girly Trump this would not be so (Has anyone seen his briefings? it's all me, me, me, I am great, I am the best, the messiah, leader of the world, like a spoilt brat who's daddy bought her the wrong colour Range Rover for her 18th birthday) There is no doubt that when in becomes obvious that it is not a miracle cure and cases continue to rise that all the diarrhoea Ken has spouted will be deep burnt. As I have passed on a message for you Ken perhaps you can pass one to Andy from me. Even Trump was disgusted at the actions of a certain Thomas Massie, calling for his unseating. Remind Andy that it is forbidden to go against the word of Trump in any circumstances whatsoever. He should remove it.--Mercian (talk) 09:17, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

PS, Ken, are you descended from Ulster folk? It's just a hunch but take a look a the Ulster Banner and my hunch will become clear.--Mercian (talk) 09:22, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

I see Ken's new favourite doctor, and his miracle cure, appear to be deeply flawed. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 13:03, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

User Conservative, Gentlemen.

[9] Any person with any intelligence would understand that my reference to the Ulster Banner is an analogy . Red hand of Ulster means that someone in legend cut of and threw his hand so he could touch Ulster's soil first, it means you have blood on your hands, red hand of Ulster etc, understand now? In the time of world crisis you go back to your atheism and shite. New Zealand has not shut it's borders to stop immigration, they have closed their borders, like every other country in the world, to stop the spread of this deadly virus that you are finding both a source of humour and a stick to beat atheists with. You truly are a sick bastard. I for one hope you don't actually get sick whilst you, I am sure, want us all to die in our atheistic misery. I say again, you are a sick bastard, Ole Ole Ole.--Mercian (talk) 18:44, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

PS you must be mentally ill, someone pays you a compliment, like I did, and you spend the next 3 days dribbling and playing with your crayons to prove that you are unworthy of being complimented. What's up Sir Brave Sir [User: Conservative], can't you take a compliment? I think it is more likely that you are such a wanker that no one has ever paid you a compliment before and you just have no idea how to handle it. Even other Conservapedians strongly dislike you. What does it feel like to be the most hateful of an already strongly hateful gang of armchair thugs? Sick Bastard.--Mercian (talk) 18:54, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

And it's gone, and back, removed messy capture--Mercian (talk) 19:48, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

I must be mentally ill?

Global News reported:

"Children who are raised with religious or spiritual beliefs tend to have better mental health into their adulthood, a new study from the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health found.

According to the study’s findings, people who attended weekly religious services or prayed or meditated daily in their childhood reported greater life satisfaction in their 20s. People who grew up in a religious household also reported fewer symptoms of depression and lower rates of post-traumatic stress disorder."[10]"

The journal article A global perspective in the epidemiology of suicide, published in the academic journal Suicidologi, found that "At 25.6, the total suicide rate is markedly highest in Atheist countries (e.g. China) which included in this analysis countries where religious observances had been prohibited for a long period of time (e.g. Albania)."[11]

According to the 2014 journal article Correlates of psychopathic personality traits in everyday life: results from a large community survey published in the journal Frontiers of Psychology lack of belief in God is positively associated with psychopathic traits.[12]GiuocoPiano (talk) 00:51, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Conservapedian grammar

Hey, Ken. Get one of your collective to find out what a conditional verb is. Then explain it to everyone else on Conservapedia, including PeterKaPeterKa. It will improve your comprehension no end and you'll be able to use words like "citation" with confidence.

There is no excuse for such poor literacy in a Western nation in 2020. Let's start with the little things and you can build up to the difference between a symptom and a disease. One day, you might even do the rocket science like R0. LondonGrump (talk) 09:50, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Grammar is unimportant, what is important is the virus is sparing conservatives and disproportionally (sic) affecting liberal/leftist geographic strongholds in the United States. The fewer people to vote for Trump the better. The pseudo cure he is pushing is working a treat, the US infection rate is only 112,000 (as of 18 hours ago)and rising fast but they are all liberals so that does not matter. The good pro (liberal) death conservatives are all protected by taking Bakker's Silver Solution, Jones' toothpaste and by going to church in their 1000s to pray for immunity.--Mercian (talk) 11:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Liberals (in the US and CP senses) voting for Trump - who is the proper conservative candidate in CP terms? One of these? Anna Livia (talk) 12:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Democraps, every last blue one of them Anna. LondonGrump (talk) 17:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)]

And what colour are their heads? Anna Livia (talk) 18:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

TK

I am not aware of this guy, before my time, I know that he died some time back. Was he a particularly liberal Conservapedian? I ask because in a now recent but deleted post Ken was dancing on his grave saying it was him who was hated, there was an Ole Ole Ole so I am presuming so.--Mercian (talk) 11:22, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Ha! TK was the über Conservapedian (see here). He was an RW user, you can access his talk page archives from here. He was totally self-centred (IMHO) and would have supplanted Andy if he could. Scream!! (talk) 12:03, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

I vaguely remember him as notable for a very hardline approach to banning users. and some falling out with andy. AMassiveGay (talk) 12:37, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

or more accurately vaguely remember talk of him. AMassiveGay (talk)

So why the grave dancing?--Mercian (talk) 13:38, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

possibly ken fell foul of tk's blocking regime. very probable even. I cant stress the draconian blocking enough btw. it was his thing. and this is all still 2nd hand half memories. I just know he blocked everyone and he pissed everyone off. AMassiveGay (talk) 13:56, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

TK was a fucking Golden Age legend. LondonGrump (talk) 16:58, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

This is the case. They really didn't like each other towards the end, and feuded in various ways. As I recall, TK really did block Ken at one point, but Ken unblocked himself. And that recent behavior by Ken does sound typical, though I haven't kept up with events there.192․168․1․42 (talk) 05:43, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

TK was a deep level parodist, something that the morons at CP were totally unaware of until after he died. In fact they were unaware he had died until it was posted on here. TK managed to cause more damage to conservapedia than possible any other single user. He managed to get super admin powers from schlafly and promptly used them to range block more than half the world, and I am not joking. At one stage the whole of the UK was range blocked at ip level from CP because TK was singly handly destroying the place. The only way I could view CP was to use a US based proxy. As a user he was possibly one of the most obnoxious people who ever lived, as a deep level parodist he was without peer. 87.74.14.220 (talk) 12:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

TK never had me fooled; in fact, I still don't believe he's dead. nobs^{Free Roger Stone!} 06:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Ken and me

Y'all remember when Ken had a hard-on for yours truly? I do. The results of that brief affair are still linked on my user page if any of y'all are interested. — Oxyaena ^Harass 07:38, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

The image of Ken with a hard on I do not need. LondonGrump (talk) 11:36, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Dead dove? Anna Livia (talk) 18:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

My long-dead sock at CP (bless her traitorous little heart) often used to receive long, creepy messages from Ken. It was about the same time as his "long haired Asian ladies" posted started appearing on MPR. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 08:54, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Nobody's really all that interested in watching Ken dunk on you. You're not very good at this. ^{— Unsigned, by: 98.32.212.70 / talk / contribs}

I`m not really interested in Ken, and clarify as to how I`m "not good at this?" It was a one-time thing, a simple curiosity. Does everyone here have to be such a negative ninny? — Oxyaena ^Harass 22:03, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

You’re clearly very interested in Ken (and yourself) or you wouldn’t have sought attention for attempting to interact with him. “Not good at this” means you’re not very smart and Ken, who is also a vapid and intellectually incurious extremist, could debate circles around you despite also being an execrable debater. ^{— Unsigned, by: 98.32.212.70 / talk}

Ken debates with people? Huh, and here I thought he just ran away when people started citing sources... ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 18:47, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Also, weird, because he never responded to me after my latest response to him. Almost as if he gave up.... Back up how I`m supposedly "not very smart" as well. — Oxyaena ^Harass 08:45, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Andy's MPR posts since the shutdown.

[13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22] I especially like the "Setback for global warning, spring will come and cure the virus". WTF does that actually mean! There is a pattern here, every one of his posts criticises one person or the other for doing the right thing apart from the congressman who "stood up to bullying" who did very much the wrong thing. Is this man a pillar of the conservative christian community or a spoilt brat who hates it that things are not going how he wants them too. No need to answer, I have learned by reading articles during my enforced social distancing (which I agree with) that a pillar of the conservative christian community and spolit brat are the same thing. And this man is allowed to teach kids.--Mercian (talk) 08:35, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Is he still teaching kids? It’s been ages since CP has seen new home-school content, and I have the impression, which could be wrong, that asking about its current use as a home school resource is a banning offense. MDB _{(the MD used to be for Maryland, but now means Magically Delicious}^{the B is still for Bear)} 13:38, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

He's switched to all hyroxychloroquine. The whole pandemic is now a liberal plot based on denying God's gift of this virus-vanquisher. Democrat governors won't distribute it. And somehow they stop Republic governors from distributing it too. Whoover (talk) 16:54, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

There does seem to be some promise with hyroxychloroquine, I am not sure whether the genius who invented this cure was Andy or Trump though. Awards from WHO because of their discovery can wait, for now it would speed things up if a sample of the virus and hyroxychloroquine were released to Andy for testing. I believe he has both experience and expertise on such matters--Mercian (talk) 07:28, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Vargas Milan has already invoked Andy's superb work on Lenski's research.LondonGrump (talk) 12:23, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Trump’s base’s obsession with hyroxychloroquine is approaching attributing miraculous healing to him. And they mocked liberals for believing in the “Obamessiah”.

I wonder if Jim Bakker will start hocking little bits of fabric guaranteed to be from the hem of Trump’s garment, yours for a free-will love offering of only $149.95 plus shipping and handling, so you can touch it and be healed!

They’re gonna start praying to Trump, not for him, by the time the election rolls around. MDB _{(the MD used to be for Maryland, but now means Magically Delicious}^{the B is still for Bear)} 11:49, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

And 'Freedom survives in only nine states, where Republican governors decline to issue stay-at-home orders'. Fucking hell. 2A00:23C6:548B:E500:3056:630A:C12D:9F9D (talk)

I am not sure where he lives but it is in New Jersey. I have been to NJ and the part I was in was just miles and miles of what were de facto NYC suburbs. I would think that any reasonable person, in the legal sense and living close to the hottest spot of this outbreak would take this much more seriously.--Mercian (talk) 15:46, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Rob Smith's quote mine.

[23] Prior to this post Rob described the virus as "The Wuhan Virus" on numerous occasions. In this post he links to a video from CNN who scold those who call it as such. Rob quote mines it as "Wuhan coronavirus as CNN refers to it". Who are you trying to fool Rob?--Mercian (talk) 08:46, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

People who actually have refered to Covid19 as "The Wuhan Virus"

• Rob Smith
• Donald Trump
• Mike Pompeo
• Tucker Carlson
• Paul Gosar (R-AZ)
• Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas)
• and Rob Smith

All of them Godless liberal racist CNN viewers.--Mercian (talk) 09:01, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Where's Swabbie?

Yo, Cowardjou - are you just going to let Creepy Uncle Ed just shit all over your beloved Navy like that? You served, you should know what a captain's responsibility is. Or are you just going to grab your ankles again, like you usually do? RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 08:56, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Ooh, and now Modly's resigned. Let's see Creepy Uncle Ed, or Rob from Pravda, spin this one, so it's the liberals' fault. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 19:51, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Ken can't do maths.

He posted to an article where he says that the coranavirus was bought to America from Europe including the UK. Reality: The first case in the USA was 20 Jan and the first case in the UK was 31 Jan. I know there is a time difference but I did not think it was 11 days.--Mercian (talk) 00:56, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Is Ken serious about this?

Is he really arguing that Trump should serve as President until there’s a vaccine? MDB _{(the MD used to be for Maryland, but now means Magically Delicious}^{the B is still for Bear)} 21:28, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

It has been proven that Ken and his like do not care about democracy. It's like everything, extreme conservatives only care about being pro-life, pro law and order and pro-democracy when it suits their needs. Abortion, strictly no, willing to kill two million so their lives are not pushed into discomfort, a big thumbs up on that. A protestor litters on Wall Street, lock him up and throw away the key, a pastor gets arrested for blatantly disregardful the law about large gatherings after numerous warnings, a cave to the left. If a hypothetical President Biden was pushing for a delay it would be a liberal coup to undermine democracy. If hydroxychloroquine was the cure and the democrats were so insistent on the election going ahead as planned they would be pushing it left right and centre . But they are not doing that, why? Because though it might be able to ease the symptoms of Covid19 like Paracetamol does with the Common Cold neither is the fucking cure.--Mercian (talk) 11:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Ohhhh boy...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/entertainment/mrs-america-review/index.html --Martin Arrowsmith (talk) 20:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Who's gonna play Andy? LondonGrump (talk) 22:05, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Teddy? Anna Livia (talk) 10:39, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Considering it's about her time opposing the ERA, Andy would be at most a teenager. He'll probably be a bit character. MDB _{(the MD used to be for Maryland, but now means Magically Delicious}^{the B is still for Bear)} 11:36, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Bit like his adult life then. LondonGrump (talk) 14:34, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Aw! And I used to like Cate too. Anybody actually planning to watch this? RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 01:52, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

It's all commie agitprop. Bring it on! nobs^{Free Roger Stone!} 06:39, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Apartheid South Africa called, nobs, they want their vocabulary back. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 07:05, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey, Rob, it's good to see you backing up your well researched insights with some muscular Christian talk: "I am literally ready to drop kick in the butt the first liberal punk who spouts that pro-science/anti-science garbage to me in a political context". I can understand why it must be frustrating to a Renaissance Man of your depth. LondonGrump (talk) 10:34, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Yep. Adding to together the infections and deaths reported by North Korea, Iran, and Ecuador to produce the well-researched scientific and mathematical fact that the U.S. is leading the world in deaths and infections is pro-science, right? nobs^{Free Roger Stone!} 18:03, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Lets face it, as long as North Korea has bullets it has no coronavirus problem. Their stats read 1, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0....LondonGrump (talk) 18:34, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

I’ve watched the first two episodes. Andy (and her other children) appear, but they barely speak. The credits list Liam MacDonald as the actor playing Andy. The listing of episodes says the final episode is called “Reagan”, so if he’s in later episodes, they might have an older actor. If you’ve got a Hulu subscription, it’s worth checking out. MDB _{(the MD used to be for Maryland, but now means Magically Delicious}^{the B is still for Bear)} 20:50, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Andy is played by a Canadian. Quality. Thank you for your service, Bear, your sacrifice has not been in vain. LondonGrump (talk) 13:56, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

he should play himself as a teenager. that would be the pinnacle of best of public. AMassiveGay (talk) 14:00, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

I was thinking Kevin's mate in The Wonder Years.--Mercian (talk) 17:20, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

The show has very good reviews, 96% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.--Mercian (talk) 17:18, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Be warned that the series opens with Cate Blanchett as Phyllis in a bikini. Now, Cate is a lovely woman, but the idea of younger Phyllis in a bikini may be scarring to some. MDB _{(the MD used to be for Maryland, but now means Magically Delicious}^{the B is still for Bear)} 17:46, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Could be worse. There could be a sex scene or two. LondonGrump (talk) 12:52, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

There is at least one, though the sexuality is not graphic. In short, her husband forces her to have sex, against her will. Phyllis is shown on the bed, obviously unhappy. What parts of her that can be seen remain clothed. It’s brief, and not done to be titillating.

Her daughter Ann has objected to the scene on Twitter, and says it never would have happened (and has criticized much of the rest of the series.)

Of course, only two people know for sure, and both are dead. However, I think it serves a valid dramatic point since she did not believe a woman had the right to refuse sex with her husband.

The series is as much about the early feminist movement as it is about Schlafly’s opposition to it. Gloria Steinem, Shirley Chisholm, Bella Abzug and Betty Friedan are all there. Phyllis is the most prominent character, but that’s in part due to her being the singular main representation of the opposition, while the feminist leaders have multiple characters.

And while Phyllis is clearly the villain of the piece (and I’m not sure villain is a completely valid term), she’s shown to have some redeeming qualities. There’s one or two scenes where she deals with southern allies who are quite clearly racists. She maneuvers to get them out of national leadership. I’m not sure if that’s due to her personal opposition to segregation or just feeling it would be politically savvy to sideline segregationists, though.

I’ll add this and close. Cate Blanchett is great in the role. As a friend said, she has a remarkable ability to make an utterly acid comment and then turn on an icy smile. She’s a bit like Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter, simultaneously charming and horrific. (Though to be fair, she was nota monster like him. She was not a cannibal. At least, not to my knowledge.) MDB _{(the MD used to be for Maryland, but now means Magically Delicious}^{the B is still for Bear)} 18:36, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Does that mean we don't get to see the Schlaflybaps? LondonGrump (talk) 21:29, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

There's a whole subplot about her gay son and I wish she were alive so that we could see that nasty woman squirm and whine in protest on her radio show. Not a bad show, tbh--"Shut up, Brx." 08:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Slate.com article relating to the movie about Phyllis Schafly: "Mrs. America tells the story of a woman who did as much as anyone to change the fortunes of her side, a side that is now winning so thoroughly that Roe’s overturning seems like it’s just some morning away."[24]

So much winning for right-wingers. And Phyllis Schlafly endorsed Donald Trump in 2016. And Donald Trump is favored to win in 2020 due to his battleground states advantage.GiuocoPiano (talk) 17:04, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

A man who has been dead 20 years demands gun control.

[25]--Mercian (talk) 03:33, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

There's the trusworthy encyclopedia for you. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 08:52, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Screenshot before Ken memoryholes it. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 08:54, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

No true skeptic believes that this was a screenshot! Admit it, you failed!

By the way, have you read the article RationalWiki: The untrustworthy website.GiuocoPiano (talk) 16:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

I saw that diff with my own eyes, Mr. DeMyer. No true Scotsman much, Ken?𝔖𝔲𝔪𝔪𝔞 𝔄𝔱𝔥𝔢𝔬𝔩𝔬𝔤𝔦𝔠𝔞 (𝔮𝔲𝔢𝔯𝔢𝔩𝔦𝔰) (𝔰𝔠𝔯𝔦𝔭𝔱𝔲𝔯𝔞) 16:43, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh look, the diff got deleted. What a coincidence!𝔖𝔲𝔪𝔪𝔞 𝔄𝔱𝔥𝔢𝔬𝔩𝔬𝔤𝔦𝔠𝔞 (𝔮𝔲𝔢𝔯𝔢𝔩𝔦𝔰) (𝔰𝔠𝔯𝔦𝔭𝔱𝔲𝔯𝔞) 16:44, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Two meters

It's going back a while, but it's just occurred to me that Ed Poor's famous two meters article was more prophetic than anyone realised at the time. Cantabrigian (talk) 18:25, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Is there a better link (but this punning is better)? Anna Livia (talk) 18:54, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Children not being educated is a "Silver lining"

[26] Unbelievable.--Mercian (talk) 02:46, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

It is if you're trying to breed a generation of unquestioning drones that will follow the party line through any number of twists, turns and switchbacks. How else will we get people more stupid and docile than the editors of CP? LondonGrump (talk) 10:19, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps they would learn that injecting someone with disinfectant is not wise. As everyone at Conservapedia, especially Andy, hang on Trump's every word not doing so is obviously liberal claptrap.--Mercian (talk) 16:06, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Belgium gives its citizens an education voucher for primary/secondary schooling which they can use at a variety of public/private/religious schools. "Belgium enacted universal school choice in 1958 in what it termed the “School Pact”; school choice was seen as a way of avoiding strife between Catholic and Protestant schools."[27] Homeschooling is legal in Belgium, education is compulsory, but school attendance is not.[28]

Education in Belgium ranks third-best among the 35 OECD countries, well above the EU and world averages, with the highest level of pre-school participation, good teachers and a broad and flexible higher education system.[29]

The notion that public schooling is necessarily the best schooling is antiquated.GiuocoPiano (talk) 16:44, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Conservapedia's obsession with Bill Gates.

[30] I always wondered why they hate him so until I read an article. I don't have it to hand but the jist goes that ultra conservatives just cannot get their head around a multi billionaire doing good things in the world without having an ulterior motive. Hence when he spends hundreds of millions on vaccines for Africa he MUST be planning to take over the world. As conservative billionaires generally do no act in that way he must be evil. I wonder how many of them run Windows--Mercian (talk) 00:42, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps because he’s one of the most charitable people alive, and is apparently non-religious? Or, more generally, they mistrust the intents of anyone who is trying to change the world from outside their worldview.

Or he’s just the latest conservative boogeyman. At least George Soros is off the hook for now. MDB _{(the MD used to be for Maryland, but now means Magically Delicious}^{the B is still for Bear)} 22:08, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Give it time. Once this kind of shit appears on Donald Trump's radar and he tweets about it, the Trumpsphere will follow. LondonGrump (talk) 08:32, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

The same goes for Fauci. The man it seems is the only person who has any leeway with Trump over the Coronavirus respone. His actions have literally saved hundreds of thousands of lives but he his abhorred by pro-life Conservatives. As an outsider I cannot get my head round it. Andy is a fine example [31][32][33][34]--Mercian (talk) 14:01, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Just your typical "if you're not with us, you're against us" mentality. I find it fascinating how Conservapedia seems to have changed so little since I first bothered looking at the site so many years ago.--"Shut up, Brx." 08:57, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't hate Bill Gates and I am a Conservapedian. And prefer using a Windows environment over MACs/Unix because there is more software options. Put that in your Conservapedia hates Bill Gates pipe and smoke it!GiuocoPiano (talk) 16:47, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Amazing

It's amazing watching Andy and Ken champion the "benefits" of Corona Virus in its silver linings and how it shows atheists up. Never mind the 60,000+ people that have died and the many who'll die still because atheists! Revolting people who can't ever talk about how liberals politicise tragedy again without being blatant hypocrites. Ace^Moderator 10:30, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Good to luck to anyone, religious or otherwise, who comes up with a remedy. Trump sycophants are the ones likely to "feel the sting" though, swallowing bleach can leave someone with dreadful heartburn.--Mercian (talk) 00:20, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Have you read the article Atheism and the Wuhan coronavirus epidemic. After the SARS outbreak, China's atheist leaders should have put a stop to the wild animal trade in wet markets and elsewhere in China. But they were negligent. "Because atheists" is entirely correct!

Second, as far as "silver linings", it is not my fault that liberal/leftist leaning institutions like Hollywood and secular universities are less resilient during this crisis than biblical Christianity.[35][36][37][38] Is there anything more fragile than secular leftism? In 2019, John Feffer wrote at the left leaning The Nation: "In the Americas, the Trump tsunami has swept across both continents and the 'pink tide' of progressivism has all but disappeared from the southern half of the hemisphere... In this planet-wide rising tide of right-wing populism, the liberal left commands only a few disconnected islands — Iceland, Mexico, New Zealand, South Korea, Spain, Uruguay... Worse, crafty operators with even more ambitious agendas stand ready to destroy the liberal status quo once and for all."[39] And New Zealand faces desecularization within this century (see: Postsecularism and New Zealand in the 21st century).

Deny that God's chosen people, the Jews, are making faster progress in treatments to the Covid-19 than the atheistic countries of China, Vietnam and North Korea and lose all credibility![40][41] See also: Atheism and medicine and Atheism and science and Atheist hospitals and Atheist doctors and Atheism and health.

Oh atheists, feel the sting!GiuocoPiano (talk) 07:55, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

what the fuck does atheism have to do with China's poor response exactly БaбyЛuigiOнФire🚓^(T|C) 08:06, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

also i have no time to fact check your sources but considering you're using conservapedia as a serious source im going to immediately assume they're all bullshit. БaбyЛuigiOнФire🚓^(T|C) 08:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

NZ - the country that has been becoming less and less religious over the last 30 years and elects agnostics/atheist leaders, which recently removed all references to chrsitianity from it's parliament is going to be desecularised? What horseshit. Ace^Moderator 08:15, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

What about (crypto-pseudo-anarcho-communo-fascito-democrato-papalo-monarcho-caesaro-)anti-disteablishmentarianism? Anna Livia (talk) 14:54, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

A fish rots from the head down. Deny the China's leaders are atheists and have a strong influence on China's medical system in terms of developing a vaccine and lose all credibility. Gentlemen, the Jews bested you - again!GiuocoPiano (talk) 08:16, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

ok lol БaбyЛuigiOнФire🚓^(T|C) 08:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

So if we're blaming China's failures on its atheist leaders, can we blame all of history's failures on its religious leaders?--"Shut up, Brx." 17:11, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

When is that Question Evolution pamphlet for middle schoolers going to be released, Ken? Wasn’t it on the third or fourth draft? Hadn’t several kids from the target audience read it and been impressed? Did something happen to the editrix? MDB _{(the MD used to be for Maryland, but now means Magically Delicious}^{the B is still for Bear)} 14:26, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey Ken, good to see you here. The irony is strong in your post (compare New Zealand and the US covid responses), but you have no grasp of irony and that's got your lexical fingerprints all over it; it's either you or someone doing a superb impression of you. LondonGrump (talk) 09:59, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Wow. Just wow. There's so much political, philosophical, and scientific ignorance here. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 14:45, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Only a coward cannot stand by his words.[42] Did anyone catch the "User:Conservative, gentlemen" and "A message to Ace McWicked" that brave Sir Kendol whitewashed ever so quickly?--Mercian (talk) 16:23, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

@Mercian That I missed. Though I did post several quick subjects on his (new? Is this his new account here?) talkpage. Discussing political theory as if Socialist, Anarchist, and Communist thought is and has always been completely secular... Smh... ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 16:30, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

So Ken's "sock" has block rights, something I have not be offered in 5 years. I guess I am out of, or never have been, in favour. He could block me, nobody would notice and my time at RW would be over. Seems unfair to me.--Mercian (talk) 16:43, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

You can email somebody and they'll unblock you if you're worried nobody will notice--"Shut up, Brx." 06:01, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

A proof that a Questions Evolution! booklet has never been published has never been produced. Nor has a proof that the booklet is not going to be imminently published.

By the way, “We have seen in the last two decades a rapid spread of creationism beyond the United States and beyond Christianity to other religions to the present time where it is a global phenomenon."[43] Also, Johns Hopkins University Press reported in 2014: "Over the past forty years, creationism has spread swiftly among European Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Hindus, and Muslims, even as anti-creationists sought to smother its flames."[44]

So much winning. It is really an embarrassment of riches!GiuocoPiano (talk) 16:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC)