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Some Concerns[edit]

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Just wanted to stop by and say[edit]

Thanks for trying to keep everything sane at Wikipedia's page on Chelsea Manning. I know that page is madhouse right now. It's a noble thing you're doing. Wehpudicabok [話] [[Special:Contributions/Wehpudicabok|<span style="color: #


My Weaseloid Facebook account is now blocked (unless I can come up with some fake ID). New account under the name Flep Hendersen. Please add me as an admin on the RW page & member of the group again. Thanks. ŴêâŝêîôîďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 21:55, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Added, check it's you :-D - David Gerard (talk) 22:18, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, it's me. What happened to the RW group? I can find the old (2014) group & RationalWiki Too(?) but not the main group. ωεαşεζøίɗWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 22:56, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Some posters got targeted by TERFs so it went quiet. Link is [1] - David Gerard (talk) 23:21, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
I can't view that link as Flep (getting the "Sorry, this content isn't available at the moment" page) but can see it on my other FB accounts. It might be because I haven't verified the account with a SMS verification code, which I'm loath to do as it would be the same mobile number & might lead to me being blocked again. Can you try sending Flep Hendersen a group invite & I'll see if that works? €₳$£ΘĪÐWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 00:12, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

By virtue of your status as Englishman[edit]

Some freshly steaming delights just fell out of a still-puckering British tabloid, and I'd very much like you to give it a quick sift-through with a fork. Your two cents would be appreciated. You can keep the fork, though. All the best, David Reverend Black Percy (talk) 20:36, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Scott Alexander[edit]

Would you mind arguing your point on the talk page, rather than just reverting? (talk) 17:55, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Dear Unknown user, Don't worry about it. It doesn't matters. The truth simply doesn't matters. What do you think of "RationalWiki"? You think it's a place where the editors and moderators are dedicated to rationality? No! It's a wiki which has always consisted of the worst editors and moderators - those who simply do not have understand "wiki" at all. It consists of moderators who will banned by wikipedia in minutes, due to their inability to grasp any and all concepts of "wiki". Most of the moderators here have been. Rukmaniahuja (talk) 18:55, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
What do you mean we don't understand "wiki"? We're fairly quick.
"Wiki" doesn't mean the same as "pedia" — short for encyclopedia — in case you're wondering.
I mean; you do understand what the word "wiki" actually means, right? Considering you fault us on that term. Or did you just misunderestimate? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 19:16, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
You've so far argued that his words mean the opposite of what they actually say, and been blindly removing actually referenced claims, so there's no reason to assume discussion with you is worth the Gish gallop - David Gerard (talk) 19:24, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Between your lack of interest in discussion, and the fact that the charming gentleman above is also a moderator here, I think I'm just going to leave you guys to have your fun here and try not to get worked up about people being wrong on the internet and douches about it (talk) 21:25, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
??? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 21:30, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Actually, sorry: since I just realized that I had misread the other interaction on the site, I might get interested in coming back to argue the point more fully, someday. I was just about to delete my previous message: I guess the other editor's attitude might justify some fight back on your part, too. I'm a bit tired and cranky right now... Cheers (talk) 21:38, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Please chime in[edit]

If you have the change please chime into the discussion at the bottom of the talk page on Theodore Beale - I explained there the changes to the article. Prior to today other editors had approved of it, though Hipocrite seems to assume it was a whitewash since the term "white supremacist' was removed or something along those lines. (Actually he objected to 'white supremacist' being removed from the related InfoGalactic article, and then just jumped the gun and assumed the edits to this one were 'whitewashing', even though as far as I know the article never said 'white supremacist' to begin with until Hipocrite added it himself).

(I did find some links describing his views as white nationalist or neo-fascist which I think could fit in the article however).--BrittanyPBone (talk) 19:27, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Eat me, baldy[edit]

You can keep reverting my edits and stoking this dumb vendetta, but I'll outlast you. Plutoniumboss (talk) 06:38, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

No doubt, but I note that you said you'd stop doing this shit and you've continued - David Gerard (talk) 09:19, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Put on the kettle[edit]

Hello David! Just wanted to ask how the book is coming along? Remember my offer to proofread it if need be Th hug.gif Writing about Bitcoin, I'd be worried that new developments would come along fast after I'd have to conclude the book's "research phase" (in order to ever finish it). Oh well. All the best, Reverend Black Percy (talk) 09:37, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Your daily grin[edit]

On the house. All the best, Reverend Black Percy (talk) 13:32, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

I hope this reached you, David! Th hug.gif Reverend Black Percy (talk) 16:07, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
*legalese intensifies* Reverend Black Percy (talk) 16:30, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Their vandalism has already been contained[edit]

...but you may or may not still wish to adress this. Nothing like spending a whole afternoon simply responding to the arguments of essentially antifeminists who don't even realize they damn well near qualify as such... Facepalm.png Anyways, all the best David. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 13:28, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

I'll get straight to it[edit] All the best, David Reverend Black Percy (talk) 12:40, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

So testing my ideas for fixing wigo for 1.27[edit]

Was your suggestion that I build a mediawiki install somewhere, drop the wigo code on it, and monkey with things until it worked? I've got a linode available for that, but I want to make sure I'm doing the right test case before I dump a good 20 hours getting it all configured right and trying desperately to hook it into my postgres server when everything's built for mysql. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 17:54, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Definitely assume MySQL/MariaDB - David Gerard (talk) 18:05, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
I may need to spin up a whole new server to do this. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 22:55, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
fun, isn't it! The database alone requires a buttload of disk, and InnoDB throws away disk space like water. I might do a latest-rev dump as well - David Gerard (talk) 22:58, 6 March 2017 (UTC) - 100MB of latest revs only - David Gerard (talk) 00:25, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
My plan was just a vanilla install with our extensions to do the testing. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 02:22, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Have you got a patched WIGO extension as yet? I have a 1.26 test installation of RW that it would be good to test on - David Gerard (talk) 13:44, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Oh, no, I've been a horrible slacker because setting up the install was a daunting task. Sorry. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 15:43, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello David[edit]

So, how is your book coming along? :) Reverend Black Percy (talk) 13:00, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

fuuuucking slowly. Basically it's always easier to lie on the floor making seal noises than work on it. Dragging it on though!! - David Gerard (talk) 13:04, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
Hah! Yeah, I hear you. Well, If you ever find yourself needing to toss someone a draft or portion of the text to proofread, I'd gladly check it out.
Oh, and by the way, I noticed that atleast one random site links to here — which is a dead link.
Dunno if it's even for us to deal with — more seal noises are fine too. All the best, Reverend Black Percy (talk) 13:19, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
yeah, rationalblogs is down because it's currently pointed nowhere at all and Trent is AWOL - David Gerard (talk) 13:19, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


Who controls the RationalWiki twitter?Kingdamian1 (talk) 15:26, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Me. Why? - David Gerard (talk) 15:33, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
You are free to tweet whatever you wish!--Kingdamian1 (talk) 16:01, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
You originally asked this question straight after asking how to become a mod, I think it's safe to say you're not going to end up running it any time soon if that's what you're implying. Christopher (talk) 16:06, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Just tweeting a featured article - David Gerard (talk) 16:11, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

C-could I beg of you..[edit]

.. a huge favour? Could you format the tweet generator to look like the Man's own tweets? I would do it but I'm not sure how to. I owe you one. Feel free to ask me to do an equivalent task (something that a janitor could do) in the future. Thanks! Koidevelopment (talk) 18:09, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

oh good lord maybe. I'll have a look, but may not be tonight - David Gerard (talk) 19:32, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


T'is done. 32℉uzzy; 0℃atPotato (talk/stalk) 16:59, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

is the latter part of this sentence correct? Mʀ. Wʜɪsᴋᴇʀs, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 23:22, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Not really at all, certainly not enough to note. Explaining the paperclip is not in any way urgent - David Gerard (talk) 23:24, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

I mean, if so, then wouldn't it make sense to pick another symbol -- a basilisk, perhaps? FuzzyCatPotato of the Ambiguous Gatsby impersonators (talk/stalk) 23:32, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

We literally just replaced a basilisk ... I really wouldn't worry about it. LWers know what paperclips mean, we don't need to say incorrect things in the article to try to excuse its presence. Work out somewhere to talk about paperclip maximisers and why LW think this is a serious threat model - David Gerard (talk) 23:34, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Carpetsmoker wrote a WIGO extension[edit]

RationalWiki:Technical_support#Captcha_blocked_as_advertising_by_Ghostery -- possible to test it on RatBeta? oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 02:08, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Loses ten years' WIGO histories because the database format isn't compatible, but if that can be resolved ... - David Gerard (talk) 07:03, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, we need to keep history. Is there an actual RW beta installation? A good start to get this in motion would be to install it there and giving it a round of testing. Frankly I don't quite remember the status of this, and there could be stupid bugs and the like. It also works a bit different from the current WIGO extension, which is a good thing, IMHO, but others might disagree. So some rewriting may be required, depending on community opinion on this. Carpetsmoker (talk) 17:53, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Also, if you're serious about this it might be a good idea to set up a RationalWiki GitHub organisation and give you, me, and other coding peeps access to that? Makes it easier to collaborate on stuff like this. Carpetsmoker (talk) 17:54, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Goodpost.gif oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 23:09, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Are you able to call now?[edit]

Re: board discussion. The FCP Foundation (talk/stalk) 22:41, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

nope, my tinnitus is fucking me right up as I write this and I'm about to take powerful drugs to try to shut it up - David Gerard (talk) 22:49, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for not abandoning us[edit]

A close up of an awesome, amazing goat's face.

Awesome Award


David Gerard/Archive2

Reason: being awesome

ClickerClock (talk) 10:46, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

The book has just been put up for preorder, so I have three weeks to do ALL THE THINGS ... - David Gerard (talk) 10:55, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
Good luck! ClickerClock (talk)
@DG Great stuff, old bean! Just pre-ordered myself a copy on the Kindle app. Th hug.gif And speaking of ALL THE THINGS; finally getting us proper SSL implementation will prove a hefty boon. Can't wait for eventual progress on that. All the best David, Reverend Black Percy (talk) 12:51, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

A Question from Bigljbigl[edit]

Why do you keep taking down my section of Wiki on Liberapedia? -Bigljbigl (talk/stalk) 06:57, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

I also deleted it. Answer: there is no Liberapedia page to link to. It's not deserving of a fork. Bongolian (talk) 07:19, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Did you get my email?[edit]

ClickerClock (talk) 09:30, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

actioned - David Gerard (talk) 09:45, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! ClickerClock (talk) 09:48, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

SSL Progress[edit]

Hey David,

Any progress on SSL cert?

The FCP Foundation (talk/stalk) 19:53, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Haven't touched it. This week's been book stuff, which takes priority as it's actually to earn money. (Realistically, I have 16 days to get EVERYTHING done.) When I'm sufficiently burnt out on that I'll have a poke at SSL again - David Gerard (talk) 19:58, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Gotcha. oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 20:01, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Heeeey David, I know you're busy. But! From what you said, certbot with apache as is shouldn't take very long. Do you think you could squeeze it in in half an hour? Mʀ. Wʜɪsᴋᴇʀs, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 00:50, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

It's arsey cos port 80 is actually Varnish now - David Gerard (talk) 07:57, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Is there no alternative way to use certbot? I'm utterly unexperienced in this field, but it seems like this is an issue others have faced.
Also: How's the book? The FCP Foundation (talk/stalk) 11:52, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Deleting Talk:Doug Weller[edit]

Deleting the talkpage is pretty clearly against the Community Standards. Nothing in the final revision suggests it's "still functionally an attack page"; even if it were, talkpages are fora and are probably can't be used in a libel case. What's your reasoning? Fuzzy "Cat" Potato, Jr. (talk/stalk) 11:58, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

That it's literally being used as an offsite launch pad for attacks claiming "RationalWiki says". This is literally valueless stuff that isn't what RW is for. We shouldn't be a hosting platform for drive by attacks that had no business being here in the first place, and even though you can bend the "community standards" to say that we could be, I suggest it's a bad idea to - David Gerard (talk) 12:06, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Where "used as an offsite launch pad"? αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 12:53, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
On Wikipedia. You seem to be looking for excuses to keep a page that only exists as an attack platform. Surely that's the moment you should be thinking "what am I actually attempting to achieve here" - David Gerard (talk) 13:02, 12 July 2017 (UTC)"doug+weller"+AND+"rationalwiki" returns no such attack-platforming. Don't gaslight: You deleted the talkpage, you now must provide a reason -- not I. Cømяade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 13:27, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
You realise large chunks of WP are noindexed. See your email. And accusing me of "gaslighting" is frickin' nuts. Calm the fuck down - David Gerard (talk) 13:47, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

naturalnews for america or world[edit]

this user asserts the fact that, during the time in the past when this user checked the site, the site was referring to big pharma agri cosmetic tech conglomerates destroying all of world and thus the site has targeted all of human race irrespective of region as it's target viewer populace.FAMAS (Talk) (Contribs) [[2]] [[3]] 15:53, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Go away - David Gerard (talk) 16:14, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
in reply to user @David Gerard, this user asserts the fact that the issue in question is one of dire importance in that it is an argument over whether naturalnews target audience is that of the american nation or all of human race in general, the answer to which, this user found to be of the latter, including but not limited to the origin nation and current nation of this user and other nations. in event of disagreement, this user will resort to community consensus and command echelon.FAMAS (Talk) (Contribs) [[4]] [[5]] 16:17, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
Go away, you fuckwit. I checked the source before reverting your bad and stupid edit - David Gerard (talk) 16:18, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
this user advises user David Gerard to practice civility during conducts within wiki.FAMAS (Talk) (Contribs) [[6]] [[7]] 16:26, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
Speaking of civility; I can't believe you forgot to invite David (of all people) to you latest dog and pony-show communal timewasting exercise? Allow me to do him the honors. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 12:04, 23 July 2017 (UTC)


Just FYI. All the best, Reverend Black Percy (talk) 10:37, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Draft Community Survey[edit]

I drafted another community survey. Since the first one was controversial, I'd love to hear your thoughts. I won't proceed without community support. Survey draft available here. Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 16:27, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

The current event[edit]

I've been looking for anyone editing any other pages and blocking&reverting them. Three (or so, or more; I've been keeping them in a notes file, actually) pages they're centering their edits on can each be reverted in a single swoop by making an edit from an older revision. "Dam the river, and it floods the plain" or something like that. ~ 18:35, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

yeah, when it's a garbage page anyway then deleting and protecting does the job. Currently updating the block list - David Gerard (talk) 18:36, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

The election[edit]

The page tells me that we were supposed to close the nominations and start the election yesterday. Apologies for not reminding you -- but today or tomorrow would be a swell time to start the election. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 22:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Only just saw this - at work right now, will do it this evening - David Gerard (talk) 09:42, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Poignant for any brit[edit]

...and a bit of a laugh, at that — if you've got a minute, and don't mind pausing a lot. All the best, Reverend Black Percy (talk) 21:51, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Is pinging broken again?[edit]

I pinged you in RW:TECH and you've been online since then, but it seems like you didn't see anything. It's pretty seriously important. (And yes, as Reverend said, take even a brief glance at the recent events log for the past day or two for an idea of just how important.) ~ 17:58, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Pinging doesn't seem to ping no. Diving in now - David Gerard (talk) 18:23, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Just emailed you[edit]

Just emailed you about something from a shady email domain. Check your spam folder.—€h33s3βurg3rF@€3 Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk)CheeseburgerFace 04:11, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Your were mentioned by name at Talk:Emil O. W. Kirkegaard[edit]

hooray Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 17:37, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

I removed it from the page. That sort of introspection would not play well in a serious fight, please don't do it - David Gerard (talk) 18:12, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Lack of sysadmins[edit]

If you've quit and Tim Starling has ascended again unto Heaven: Can I have shell access to add SpecialProtectedpages.php? Herr FüzzyCätPötätö (talk/stalk) 12:33, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

If you have any idea what you're doing - do you in fact have any idea about Unix systems? - and won't break everything. And you know I quit ages ago, and Trent said he could do it, then ... didn't - David Gerard (talk) 12:43, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
oh, my book is now a college text - David Gerard (talk) 23:30, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
I've essentially no experience with Unix. (Aside from occasionally using an Ubuntu VM for 100% legal purposes.) That said, most "fixes" have been very minor PHP changes and/or adding new files. Your call. The FCP Foundation (talk/stalk) 16:43, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Shouldn't RW just ban white nationalists/Neo-Nazis/hardcore racists?[edit]

I was wondering what your view is about no-platforming/banning white nationalists, extreme racists, Neo-Nazis etc here? Take a look [User_talk:EmilOWK#Your_links_to_white_nationalists.2FNeo-Nazis.2FAlt_right here] for EmilOWK who is Emil O. W. Kirkegaard; a referee for Kirkegaard's racialist journal is Kevin MacDonald. Do you think it is OK to adopt a policy to just ban these sort of Neo-Nazis and white nationalists on sight? My view is RationalWiki should do this. You now have EmilOWK trying to edit his own article and remove content - so if you let white nationalists or racialists come here, they will try to revert stuff from their articles. (talk)

It's unlikely to stick - it's just way too easy to edit a MediaWiki if anon editing is allowed at all. It takes being a persistent troll like Mikemikev to be revert-on-sight, and that's because his style is entirely predictable - David Gerard (talk) 12:12, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
That is disappointing news to me personally, I would recommend banning racists if it was up to me. Thanks for your reply though. (talk) 13:37, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Self requested block[edit]

In the past I have criticized and debunked white nationalists, racists and race realists on this website and even got some of them banned. I am not too happy about how things are 'run' around here now. It seems this website is not as strict as it used to be. It is now giving these racists a 'platform' to voice their opinions on various talk-pages and several users are being overly friendly to these closet Nazis. I do not see why we have to be 'friendly' to Nazis and racists or give them any kind of platform to talk as that is exactly what they want. I am involved with anti-racist groups and I have no time for any kind of racialism pseudoscience that these people promote. I have wasted far too much time on this website debunking race realists. I would appreciate it if you would give my IP a perm ban indefinitely. It would remove any temptation I have to further debunks these trolls. Like I said I have wasted a lot of time here and it seems to now just anger me. I am very sure about this and request it. Thank you.— Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

"Being friendly" is vastly different from "not being a dick." I hate every single one of those people just as much as you do, 86, but unless they actually break a rule we can't really ban them. RoninMacbeth (talk) 13:44, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
Fair play. As for my self requested block, can you perform that? I would like a sysop here to do it. Should I request this at the saloon bar? I have seen in the past self requested blocks performed although they are rare, so I am sure they can be done. (talk) 14:41, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
What's your username? We do not block IP indefinitely here.—€h33s3βurg3rF@€3 Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 14:58, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Closing the elections + grabbing the results[edit]

Are you free to do so tomorrow? 32℉uzzy; 0℃atPotato (talk/stalk) 16:40, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

yeeup, whatever time it should be - David Gerard (talk) 18:14, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
fark, I completely forgot this. THIS EVENING - David Gerard (talk) 15:26, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

emil kirkegaard[edit]

please read my concerns hereMildmay (talk) 13:51, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

http://rationalwiki to https://rationalwiki[edit]

Would you like me to run the bot now? 32℉uzzy; 0℃atPotato (talk/stalk) 16:24, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

I suggest we do not run the bot, but fix any mixed-content pages as they come up. I went through all of [[Special:Allmessages[[ for hard-coded http:// already, so we shouldn't have any in the interface ... there may be templates. Maybe use the bot to find them, but change them by hand as needed? I wouldn't go through old talk pages or anything, the old http:// URLs need to keep working (they're so widely linked after all) - David Gerard (talk) 18:39, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Cultural appropriation revert[edit]

Mr. Gerard, why did you revert my edit on Cultural appropriation? Did I do something wrong? CJ-Moki (talk) 02:46, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

I'd have thought that an extensive edit changing the meaning of the entire article without discussion was probably a wrong edit, yes - David Gerard (talk) 12:33, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Jordan_B._Peterson revert[edit]

Hi, just a quick question, why was the work I did on the Jordan Peterson page ago undone? it took me a few hours of work.... The previous version, even from the beginning is full of misleading and some completely false commentary; a colleague of mine introduced me to this website a few minutes before my effort, by showing the slander on that page. Morgan9218 (talk) 12:33, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

A major revision like that should really go by the talk page first - David Gerard (talk) 15:52, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


There appears to be some recent drama started by Rome Viharo and a bunch of socks, now involving Abd regarding a 'Smith' conspiracy theory on RW. This edit in question from Abd [8] contains something that might be conceived as doxing/and or stalking. I recommend deleting the article in question. Marky (talk) 21:37, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Nuked from orbit - David Gerard (talk) 22:13, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
Can you remove Abd's syop powers? I believe he is abusing those powers. See [9] and [10]. He is using talk-page as a doxing soap-box to promote his Smith conspiracy theory. As we have established Abd is a pseudoscience promoter with a chip on his shoulder against skeptics, should he not be demoted? Marky (talk) 00:42, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
See my comment here [11] Marky (talk) 00:54, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
Marky you do know that I can remove sysop powers. ClickerClock (talk) 01:36, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
You might want to delete this [12], it contains a large amount of doxing and Wiki stalking. Marky (talk) 17:36, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your help previously. I noticed it went quiet for a few days but as Abd has no place left to troll he is now looking for new places, see this edit [13]. Abd is soapboxing, and stirring for trouble. The best thing to do is to shut him down. He has nothing to do but is using this website to bait for an argument. I see this guy as a typical troll with way too much times on his hands. I will not comment to him directly. He wants any excuse to write walls and walls of text. Marky (talk) 14:54, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Just as I thought things had been sorted. Abd has continued his doxing and stalking of a Wikipedia user here [14]. Any chance you can have a word with Abd? He doesn't seem to want to stop. Marky (talk) 15:46, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
@ Marky, he's now blocked for doxxing & harassment. He had repeated warnings. Skeptical (talk) 18:45, 18 October 2017 (UTC)


Emil O. W. Kirkegaard was previously blocked for doxing. He was unblocked [15] on the condition he would not do this again. But he just went on his userpage and posted what seems to be more dox taken from Abd's deleted article (it includes a real life name and someone called "Ben" (not linking his full name), about six different IP addresses and some external links). I blocked Emil for only 3 days. But if this is wrong I apologise for blocking him. Skeptical (talk) 01:39, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

I extended the block to infinity, but feel free to unblock him if you think it's justified. I think he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt given his actions with the OKCupid data.[16] @Skeptical Bongolian (talk) 02:33, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
I think the block is justified. He has a history of doxing and does not know when to stop. He seems to be now moaning about this on his twitter. BTW I re-added the stuff about his doxing of OkCupid on his article. I am not sure why it was removed. Skeptical (talk) 02:51, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

de-sysop cheeseburger[edit]

cheeseburger reverted your + my edits on NotPoliticallyCorrect.

I noticed cheeseburger did the same thing to the Emil Kirkegaard and John Fuerst pages; he basically destroyed those articles at one point, until they were re-written better quality by Skeptical.

There's no constructive edits if you view cheeseburger's account/ he just seems to revert people's edits to troll.ANTIFAGuy (talk) 18:03, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Would help if you didn't gild the lily.BFANJS - David Gerard (talk) 18:15, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

fix it fix it fix it[edit]

Dear David Gerard,

fix it fix it fix it

oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 16:18, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

To David Gerard, rose of my eye:
fix it fix it fix it
With highest regards,
Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 16:22, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
finally pulled request and put it into place. Someone who could be bothered really should do a fancy shmancy one with multiple sizes of icon - David Gerard (talk) 22:41, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
thaaaaanks FuzzyCatPotato!™ (talk/stalk) 05:20, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

upload limit github pull[edit]

fix it fix it

FᴜᴢᴢʏCᴀᴛPᴏᴛᴀᴛᴏ, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 00:41, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

are we sure upload-by-copy is a good idea? Not sure it strikes me as one ... we're not in fact Commons or the IA - David Gerard (talk) 00:54, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
let's see if this works now: @FuzzyCatPotato - David Gerard (talk) 11:24, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
We had upload by url before, didn't we? 32℉uzzy; 0℃atPotato (talk/stalk) 13:09, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
not that I know of ... strikes me as an open invitation to unintended foolishness. Basically, if you want to pull stuff in from somewhere else, I suggest making people jump through a small hoop (download then upload) is a good idea - David Gerard (talk) 13:16, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
welp, that line can deffo be deleted FuzzyCatPotato!™ (talk/stalk) 21:39, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
yeah; will do it in a tick without that bit. If The Mob seriously wants it, hey, but I think it's a bit much of an idjit magnet - David Gerard (talk) 22:05, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
ok that should be in place now - David Gerard (talk) 23:13, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

This didn't fix it -- uploads still can't be over 1 MB. If you have a spare 15 minutes, could you try to fix this? oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 01:05, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

hm could be PHP actually - David Gerard (talk) 01:20, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
no, PHP's hard limit is 50M. weird ... - David Gerard (talk) 01:24, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Rome Viharo perm banned on Reddit[edit]

Rome Viharo has been perm banned on Reddit. It is hard to receive a perm ban on Reddit so what he did was obviously a serious offense. The internet is starting to wake up about this guys trolling. Can you update his Rationalwiki article documenting his ban? [17], also archived here. He is very quiet about his ban because it does not play in his favour, I noticed he is rather ashamed about it so has not chosen to mention it anywhere (yet). It should be made public on his Rationalwiki. (talk) 04:14, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

You've been nominated as moderator[edit]

You've been nominated in the upcoming moderator elections. See the nomination at RationalWiki:Moderator elections/Nominations. Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 19:56, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

hey boy it's time to let people vote on mods[edit]

pls help us oh 50-foot-tall sysadmin FU22YC47P07470 (talk/stalk) 05:33, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

yepyep uh, tick - David Gerard (talk) 09:06, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Bitcoin?[edit] no context no sense 18:12, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

putting user:archivist on the rw server[edit]

is there any reason it can't be done? all it needs is python 3.6 (git is nice for updating). Herr FüzzyCätPötätö (talk/stalk) 13:01, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

I'll have a look later - David Gerard (talk) 13:25, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
i've got putty if that's any help Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 13:27, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Heading grammar[edit]

The heading says there "should be 24 minutes ago left" 𝔊𝔬𝔞𝔱-𝔈𝔪𝔭𝔢𝔯𝔬𝔯 𝔅𝔦𝔤𝔰 (𝔴𝔬𝔯𝔡𝔰 𝔬𝔣 𝔴𝔦𝔰𝔡𝔬𝔪/𝔞𝔠𝔥𝔦𝔢𝔳𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔰) 00:27, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

so, someone should change it! - David Gerard (talk) 00:35, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
edited header. Who is the returning officer? - David Gerard (talk) 00:38, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Myself and @ClickerClock I believe. Can you email me or David, Clicker? Herr FüzzyCätPötätö (talk/stalk) 00:41, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
emailed to Fuzzy - David Gerard (talk) 01:02, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

some guy on Facebook wants into the RationalWiki group[edit]

check RationalWiki page messages oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 18:02, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

there is Officially No RationalWiki Group, the various groups are all Unofficial Fan Groups that RMF eschews - useful that! But I'll have a look - David Gerard (talk) 18:55, 25 January 2018 (UTC)


Is there any reason we keep RationalWiki:Site support and RationalWiki:Fundraiser separate? The first page seems too sparse to deserve a huge yellow button in the sidebar. (Asking b/c I was considering putting up the referral code on the fundraiser page.) Herr FüzzyCätPötätö (talk/stalk) 00:22, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

I think the latter is the appeal-specific beg text. I concur they don't really do very separate jobs - David Gerard (talk) 08:35, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Your book arrived today[edit]

Looking forward to reading it :) —Kazitor, pending 04:51, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

And I just finished it. Good read. —Kazitor, pending 06:29, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
\o/ - David Gerard (talk) 07:46, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Abd Lomax coop case[edit]

Please see coop case about Abd ul-Rahman Lomax, he is requesting a ban and says he has only been blocked. [18] Debunking spiritualism (talk) 16:59, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

David Gerard: Let's blog about our personality disorders, shall we?[edit]

I see that you have removed a few lines I had added to the Thunderf00t article some time ago. I take no offence, in fact I supposed it was the way of this wiki. I do think it is worth noting however, that trying to appear supercilious appears to be an effort for you. The voices in my head are none of your concern.Ariel31459 (talk) 22:24, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Abd Lomax socking on Rationalwiki Reddit[edit]

Abd Lomax has turned up on the Rationalwiki Reddit complaining about his RW article on a new account. As he has been doxing Rationalwiki users on his blog and he is banned from here for socking on countless IPs and countless accounts can you ban him from commenting on the Rationalwiki Reddit? Regards. Debunking spiritualism (talk) 06:24, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

British vs. American English[edit]

I'm pretty sure we have a rule here which says that we should not change from one major dialect of the English language to another. I am referring specifically to this edit of yours. Nerd (talk) 11:54, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

you realise that was a revert, right - David Gerard (talk) 12:42, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
No. The page's history does not indicate that. But if you are reverting an old edit, you missed one. Frankly, I don't think this really matters. Just send that person a reminder. Nerd (talk) 12:47, 6 August 2018 (UTC)


You wrote on my talk page "You'll edit slower with a mop in one hand. Ha! Ha!" Could you please interpret your meaning for me?Lonius (talk) 14:48, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

"Mop" is what we call sysadmin rights here, as they denote the ability(and duty) to do really boring maintenance task, and not any kind of real power. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 14:56, 10 August 2018 (UTC)


some dude reminded me that we should delete the subreddit. it'd be best if the subreddit got locked and you made one sticky post saying "Go here for discussion" that links to the Saloon Bar Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 06:52, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

You're a mod aren't you? You have as much standing to - David Gerard (talk) 06:55, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
@David Gerard my account was banned a few years back -- thoughts on proposal? Fuzzy "Cat" Potato, Jr. (talk/stalk) 06:53, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Nominated for RMF Board[edit]

You've been nominated to the RationalMedia Foundation election. Please accept or decline; if you accept, you may wish to campaign. Cømяade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 06:54, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

I second the nomination. Bongolian (talk) 19:24, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

"you inane fucking dingbat"--David Gerard,[edit]

Your words will return to haunt you. If you want to edit war, that's up to you. You appear to be a supercilious fanatic. Ariel31459 (talk) 13:53, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

I would ask "have you ever tried not being an inane fucking dingbat", but it's clear the answer is no - David Gerard (talk) 09:43, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

RationalWiki:2018 board of trustees election[edit]

Please allow voting to begin. (See RationalWiki:Saloon bar#When will voting begin for the board of trustees election?.) (talk) 11:56, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for organizing this election. Please close the polls today. (talk) 12:59, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

You won the Board[edit]

Congratulations to you and the other two new members, Bob M and LeftyGreenMario. —Kazitor Kazitor sig pic.png 21:38, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Congrats Mr. Inane Dingbat! --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 21:40, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
And here I was thinking I'd escaped it and Rob was stuck with getting his wish ... - David Gerard (talk) 22:17, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
If that's the case, my severe condolences on your victory. RoninMacbeth (talk) 22:27, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
just indulging my inner martyr
just imagine though, Rob waking up to discover he literally has fiduciary and mission responsibility to do his best for RationalWiki, and is in fact legally required to, because that was what he asked for - David Gerard (talk) 22:39, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
The confirmation that I definitely won't have to hold my nose and work with Rob has got my day off to a good start. Congratulations on your re-election. That means that everything should carry on at least as smoothly as it ever did. Speak to you soon. Spud (talk) 01:40, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Mod Election[edit]

The people standing in the 2018 mod election are:

The ballot readers are:

And the election is supposed to run:

19 November 2018
26 November 2018

This needs you to do stuff. — Dysk (contribs) 10:44, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

kewl, I'll put it live some time on Mon 19 nov - David Gerard (talk) 10:45, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
ok, I was gonna put this live now, but I don't have the right ssh key on my office PC - so I'll have to do this this evening - David Gerard (talk) 08:38, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
PING @Dysklyver @Shabidoo - Special:Election is live now, please do your thing with the fancy pages, the sitenotice, etc - David Gerard (talk) 22:27, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
actually nvm, I just did - David Gerard (talk) 22:29, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. — Dysk (contribs) 23:03, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Voting abilities[edit]

I just went to the voting booth, to well, vote, yet according to that same page I have already voted. Did you perchance forget to reset the voting calculations? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 22:34, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

fukcin did precisely that thing. Just checked the January data and cleared it. Try again - David Gerard (talk) 22:45, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
Looks like others are experiencing the same problem --RWRW (talk) 00:26, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
try again, i'm watching the .blt file - David Gerard (talk) 07:24, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Mod election over[edit]

Please close the voting to allow counting to start. (talk) 00:10, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

CLOSED! Hey you election counting guys, send me your emails and I'll send you a .blt file, er probably tomorrow morning - David Gerard (talk) 00:15, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
My guy. Pinging @Dysklyver and @Shabidoo. (talk) 00:21, 27 November 2018 (UTC) — Dysk (contribs) 09:10, 27 November 2018 (UTC)


Whatever happened to the blog we had up? Ɖøn Ĵuan Harass 12:08, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Trent forgot to renew the domain name - David Gerard (talk) 13:13, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
Such lulz. Probably a good idea to stick the domains on auto-renew. — Dysk (contribs) 14:48, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
Ain't that the truth. I had two domains that I forgot to put on auto-renew (well, one of them I did, the other one I purposefully canceled because of financial woes), and I presume you know what the end result of that one was. One of them ended up becoming some site for spambots to infest, the other, I could reclaim it if I really cared.Ɖøn Ĵuan Harass 17:06, 23 December 2018 (UTC)


Just because Don read you the receipt wrong, you're gonna act this way? Is this you're way of getting out of your responsibilities, is this the way you act?! Ɖøn Ĵuan Harass 09:23, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

if you're talking about something, I have no idea what it is - David Gerard (talk) 09:47, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
So you acknowledge that because Don read you the receipt wrong, it provided a convenient excuse for you to avoid your responsibilities. Ɖøn Ĵuan Harass 11:41, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
I`m surprised you haven't reverted this section away yet. Ɖøn Ĵuan Harass 14:23, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Abd Lomax[edit]

Abd ul-Rahman Lomax is trying to get Malcolm Kendrick to sue Rationalwiki. He has been linking to your RW user-page on Kendrick's blog on a bunch of sock-puppets. Thought I would give you a heads up. Street Guy (talk) 19:22, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Links to comments on that blog: Rationalwiki fan wrote about lawsuit, linked to your user page, and abdlomax responded.
Rationalwiki fan wrote more and I think there is more from this name. There is also more from abdlomax, and I think he has linked to his blog, but I didn't see him urging Kendrick to sue, at least not there, but only discussing some of the legal issues. --Street scoop (talk) 21:16, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Right, is that you Lomax? By the duck dest and log in times, Abd Lomax or an associate of his (maybe Rome Viharo) is "rationalwiki" guy, playing a false game to cause this drama, he is desperate to try and close down this website because of his own article. According to JzG a Wikipedia admin - Lomax has a history of impersonation. If you check Lomax' blog he is requesting for Kendrick to sue Rationalwiki (Don't link to the Lomax blog though, it contains apparent dox). Street Guy (talk) 21:35, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Cellular Access[edit]

I've not been able to get Ratwiki to load on my iPhone for at least 6-12 months. 'Network connection was lost'. iPhone 6 with Safari. Just FYI, per your request. Semipenultimate (talk) 16:01, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

ty :-) What provider/country? Is it different over wifi than mobile data? - David Gerard (talk) 16:17, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
answer to the above was: make IPv6 work properly :-) - David Gerard (talk) 10:05, 14 May 2019 (UTC)