RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Archive 2019

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May[edit]

Popular music | Result: Five votes for delete within an hour of nomination, including one from the person who created it. This didn't stand a chance![edit]

Popular music (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

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  1. Beyond our scope. This is not an encyclopedia. Spud (talk) 08:24, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
  2. There's a possibility that pop music overlaps slightly with our mission, but you'd have to work hard to get not much, and there's zilch in the current article. Avida Dollarsher again 08:41, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
  3. Not much missionality to pop music. Could perhaps make a fun page I guess. NekoDysk 08:59, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
    Oh there's definitely scope for a fun page - sadly, though, the current page isn't much fun. Avida Dollarsher again 09:02, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
  4. Nook Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 09:08, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
  5. I'm the first producer of the document. I don't care if you delete it, but I hope you don't. I'm....interested in entertainment, but I don't know it very well. But I am more confident to fill out the document!--Gracchi (talk) 09:23, 19 May 2019 (UTC)


Keep[edit]

Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

Artem S. Tashkinov | Result: Quickly deleted[edit]

Artem S. Tashkinov (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Article subject is an internet nobody; content is of questionable worth and written by a single-purpose account likely created for the purpose of furthering an internet grudge. See more on the talkpage. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 01:21, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
  2. Agree, also I made these points on talk.Tobias (talk) 01:22, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
  3. Doesn't seem to be promoting anything worth criticizing. NekoDysk 01:23, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
  4. What are we going to do without a legal threat then????😢😢😢 --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 01:24, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
  5. Delete. Dr. Ox quack specialist 01:25, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
  6. Delete. TheUmbilicalCordGuy (talk) 01:28, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
  7. Doesn't seem to have much to do with our mission. Cosmikdebris (talk) 01:41, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

The mob seems overwhelmingly in favor of deletion, but I'll leave this up a bit longer on the tiny off chance someone decides to do an "OBJECTION!!!" Even so, this will likely be a speedy deletion. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 01:31, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Nah, fuck it. There's seven votes to delete. I'm doing it now. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 01:43, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Parrilla | Result: Deleted[edit]

Draft:Parrilla (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

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  1. Created by a blocked sockpuppet of banned troll mikemikev for malicious purposes. I believe his two reasons for creating the article were either or both of (a) making his sockpuppet account appear superficially legitimate; (b) scaring or upsetting leftists in particular, who were often the targets of the torture described in the article. I don't think this article is missional or has any future. Wikipedia already has an article on this obscure and disturbing type of torture; RW does not need a dedicated article on it. Greenrd (talk) 11:08, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
  2. Candidate for speedy deletion. Cosmikdebris (talk) 16:24, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

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Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

April[edit]

American University of Health Sciences | Result: Keep[edit]

American University of Health Sciences (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

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  1. So, this is a fundie school. So what? It doesn't appear to be any different from hundreds of others. There doesn't appear to be a need for this particular school to have a page here. The article as written is a copypasta from the school's web site and is unlikely to be expanded. Cosmikdebris (talk) 21:40, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
  2. Search results don't excuse lack of effort put into pages. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 00:51, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
  3. Get rid of the article. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:59, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
  4. Get rid of it. Do we really need yet another article on some fundie diploma mill in the middle of god-knows-where? Oxyaena Harass 00:00, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. Don't see any reason why we shouldn't have a page, it may be boring but it gets first page Google for the schools name, potentially informing somebody. NekoDysk 21:59, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
    The article, as currently presented, is simply a copy and paste from the school's website. There's basically no other content except for some dubious opinions in the first paragraph that are not backed up by any references at all. At a minimum, the article needs a complete rewrite to be useful to anyone. Cosmikdebris (talk) 00:34, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
    I deleted everything in the article from the schools website. NekoDysk 19:34, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
  2. The more info we have, the better. Information seems to be cited correctly and we can always expand it later. Perhaps we could put that on the to-do list? I strongly believe it should be kept. Pootisbird (talk) 18:32, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
  3. Voting keep just to balance What a Wonderful World Féinléiriú (talk) 23:17, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
    😂 What a Wonderful World (talk) 00:47, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
  4. Notoriety shouldn't have so much to do with keeping a page. Commie Lib (talk) 20:07, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
  5. ye EK (talk) 23:18, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
  6. Keep --MtDBogan 20:11, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

At worst redirect to the fundie school page so we keep the google search result. Féinléiriú (talk) 22:03, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

# Seconded. Oxyaena Harass 22:21, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
  1. FYI, I should make the point that a redirect will not keep the Google result, as GoogleBot will notice the page content has gone and re-rank it much lower. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ NekoDysk 22:24, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
    Having actually looked at it being cleared out there is little value in it, it doesn't even say why it's bad other than it's a fundie school, which will just tells fundies 'Oh this is the place for me!'. I assume it is already listed in the fundie schools list. Féinléiriú (talk) 23:08, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Goat[edit]

March[edit]

Incelosphere | Result: Deleted[edit]

Incelosphere (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

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  1. the absolute state of this article is a mess. Redlinks that will never be linked. A focus on a timeline no one gives a fuck about. Details of sites that were never popular and now dead. Entirely too friendly neutral treatment of what has evolved into a hate group. None of it is good. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 19:52, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
  2. Agree. It doesn't even mention the murder/suicide(s?) associated with it. Could possibly be moved to draft space if anyone's interested in fixing it up. Bongolian (talk) 19:58, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
  3. This article is soooo boring. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 20:16, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
  4. Kill it with Scorpio.gif RoninMacbeth (talk) 20:18, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
  5. Bad article. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 20:38, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
  6. Awful. Cosmikdebris (talk) 21:54, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
  7. What a load of shit! Spud (talk) 07:10, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
  8. Launch this crap into the sun. TheUmbilicalCordGuy (talk) 07:56, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

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Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

  1. Either kill it or move it to draftspace, either way it is not suitable for mainspace. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:13, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
  2. I'm interested in fixing it up. Move to draft space. Thisnthat7 (talk) 20:17, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
    What's your proposal on improving this article? --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 20:19, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
    I propose to add stuff like the Elliot Rodgers episode in 2014, the Alek Minasssian episode in 2018 etc.— Unsigned, by: thisnthat7 / talk / contribs
    Keep in mind we have an incel article for that, so the nominal purpose of this article would be "places incels congregate" and I'd have a hard time picturing a good, and missional version of that. It used to be a redirect to the manosphere glossary, and I don't mind it going back to that. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 20:24, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Robin Falkov | Result: Keep[edit]

Robin Falkov (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Subject is dead. Nothing in her life's work seems likely to be notable for long. All web references will soon expire and this article will be without refs. Ithaca8 (talk) 16:25, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. Nothing wrong with the article. Also there's nothing in our policy about deleting peoples articles when they die, or any prohibition on using the wayback machine. NekoDysk 18:48, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
  2. What Dysklyver says. Cosmikdebris (talk) 18:54, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
  3. If their misinformation somehow vanished when they died, sure, but that's not the case at all. Keep. Revolverman (talk) 23:55, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
  4. Also with Dysklyver on this one. TheUmbilicalCordGuy (talk) 00:10, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
  5. The reason given for deletion is poor, and the solutions offered easy to implement. Keep. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:12, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
  6. Keep for above reasons. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 01:30, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
  7. Keep. We're the top Google link for her. It's possible that her woo will rub off on someone after her death — it's happened with other quacks. This page stands as a warning for people. Bongolian (talk) 02:20, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

February[edit]

Emil Kirkegaard | Result: Keep[edit]

Emil Kirkegaard (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

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  1. Hi, I would appreciate if you read this in full to understand the situation, why I recently requested article deletions (many, but not all of them my own page creations):
  • For legal reasons I cannot go into much detail or specifics, but only point out in 2018 someone from OpenPsych sued me for defamation; a lawsuit that is ongoing, and there has been a demand to remove all the above RationalWiki articles, hence I submitted deletion requests and voted to remove them. Aeschylus (talk) 19:36, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. I vote to keep it of course, as the subject is a well know public figure, the article is accurate and missional, and having it fulfills RationalWiki's aim of providing free content for informational purposes. — Arthur Kerensa Esq.legal enquiries? dysklyver@linuxmail.org … 20:17, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. Any demonstrably inaccurate information should be removed if there is any. We do not delete articles based on legal threats. Bongolian (talk) 20:52, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  3. While I empathize with Aeschylus' misfortune at being caught up in legal shenanigans with these racist scumbags, they can take their article deletion requests and shove them up their collective asses. Cosmikdebris (talk) 21:11, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  4. We don't back from legal threats. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 21:27, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
    That's not technically true. "We" don't allow legal threats to dictate editorial policy, but "we" do acknowledge and respond to them, if submitted properly. "We" have a process for formally addressing legal complaints, but it isn't through the wiki editing process. See the RationalWiki:Legal_FAQ. In the meantime, as a regular old editor I would advise that all such discussion be frozen, and this user submit their request through proper channels. I'm not a member of that "we"(i.e. the rationalwiki board) anymore. The appropriate venue for that is addressed in the legal FAQ. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 21:38, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  5. If we deleted an article every time we got a legal threat we would have to get rid of many extremely mission important articles. Commie Lib (talk) 22:35, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  6. Direct them to the complaint department, we should never even consider vaping articles because of legal threats. Adjust as necessary? Yes. Vape? Never. For further reference see the Kent Hovind incident. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 21:16, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
  7. Keep. Both the pedophilia apologism and scientific racism have been documented in mainstream media (Guardian, New Statesman, etc), so missional and properly sourced. Particularly important as his Wikipedia page was deleted largely for not meeting the notability requirements for academics (which don't apply on RW). --Annanoon (talk) 21:42, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
  8. If writing articles about racist dickheads is causing problems for a certain user, that particular should stop doing it. And while he's at it, he can get the hell away from RationalWiki once and for all and stop coming back under a different user name all the fucking time. No wonder our opponents think the entire site is written by one man with 300 different user names. But that's no reason to delete this article. If the racist dickheads don't like the articles about them, they should stop trying to use pseudoscience to justify their racism, admit they were wrong, apologize and, hopefully, change their ways. Spud (talk) 16:34, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

Bleat. This article, like all the others proposed for deletion by Aeschylus, was created as part of a campaign of harassment by the nominator, using RationalWiki with, overall, hundreds of related accounts here, all very well-known on the internet everywhere but here, in places that cover such things. See his user page and what he did with his tools as soon as opped. That is only a small fraction of his known socks.

It is no wonder he was sued, his ass is grass. In the biographies he created, he spent much time looking for anything that might look bad, real or not, and related to our mission or not. Guilt by association, words with emotional impact, the whole nine yards. So his sources should be viewed with suspicion, and checked carefully, understanding that they may have been cherry-picked and even misrepresented in the text. Some quotes are taken out of context and presented as if characteristic.

These actually were hit pieces, whether or not the subjects are worthy of RatWiki articles. Intention matters in the real world.

He has been de-opped and blocked indef "for his own good" by the one who opped him. He has actually been blocked on RatWiki many times, and he has claimed impersonation by others that was actually him or someone connected with him. So these articles should be seen in the light of their history.

It was claimed in one of these deletion requests that an article was created by Mikemikev. It was promptly deleted (by Aeschylus) with no objection, even though it was very similar to other articles in this series. If anyone looks at that history, and at all contributions of that user, Schizophreniac, which will take sysop tools to see the deleted contributions, and if what I have seen elsewhere matches the original here, this was not Mikemikev, it was Aeschylus, impersonating himself, creating an actual biography of himself (he recently talked a great deal about his political and "scientific" views on Encyclopedia Dramatica recently, and they match. This guy has played us for fools for years, all to pursue personal vendettas. The admitted editors have been openly admitted to be him, the subject of that article, in many places. Mikemikev I know very little, but he would not have written that article, which was practically laudatory, how he wanted to be seen. Mike would have torn him to shreds, not, instead, giving all his rationalizations for his crank positions. That article, deleted immediately, was not an attack on him, being far more fair to him than any of the articles on others he admittedly created here.

As to the articles, I DGAF. I am not going to repeat this in the other nominations, and as a collection of nominations by a single author, they should have been only one nom, even though results might differ. Consider, though, the implications of the abuse of RationalWiki as a platform for personal attack. --Some random Smith (talk) 19:17, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Fine, but kirkegaard, in particular, is a huge shithead, whose shitheadedness is very public. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 19:21, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Your choice. There are 79,495,276, give or take a few, shitheads in the world. Go ahead, have a bio on every one, and have their worst enemy write it. Should be entertaining. Most of of the publicity on Kirkegaard was created by the author, who showed media the RatWiki articles, which then, not carefully checking, repeated the claims, and then the articles cite the media. Really, brilliant! Carry on. I'm going to finish the cleanup here and go back to flattening the earth. --Some random Smith (talk) 19:30, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
There is no libel on these articles. Emil Kirkegaard and his associates at open psych are well documented racist and white supremacists that have been criticized in many references. There is no misrepresentations, everything is well sourced. People here should be warned "Some random Smith" is an impersonation account created by Abd ul-Rahman Lomax, he is the person trying to stir up legal problems behind the scenes. He created his account in 2017, after his Rationalwiki article was created. I repeat - Some random Smith is Abd ul-Rahman Lomax, exactly the same writing style. Lomax is [1] banned from Rationalwiki and was cooped by David Gerard. Last week Abd Lomax was banned on ED for saying exactly the same things as his comment above about Mikemikev, [2]. Abd has written several articles on his website defending racists such as Emil Kirkegaard and Mikemikev. Amazing how he has used this secret undetected account for so long. He should be banned immediately. Roberts (talk) 19:51, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Yeah whatever, if he goes nuts I will bash him with the banhammer. The sheer number of mostly groundless accusations of impersonation and sockpuppetry of late is getting farcical. NekoDysk 20:06, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
nah, that's Abd, I'd recognise that text-producing bioweapon anywhere - David Gerard (talk) 21:52, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
  • For the record both were banhammered. NekoDysk 21:41, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

TFLism | Result: Move to draft[edit]

TFLism (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Unlikely stub of dated manosphere term with a couple degrees too much charity for the concept ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 22:03, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. Give me some suggestions to change it and I will do it. Riptohelsinway (talk) 22:10, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
    That's fair. But I had a hard time imagining what those changes could be, which is why I proposed deletion. My biggest problems really are that it's a dead, almost never used term and the whole thing suits the Manosphere Glossary better. But also if it could be rewritten to give less credence to groups self-identifying as oppressed due to being lonely, it would be better. And definitely include less suspect etymology. But even then, I feel like it's not really appropriate as a separate article, no lasting value. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 22:30, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
    I've given it a shot. Riptohelsinway (talk) 23:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

  1. I think we should make it part of Incel#Coinage and Early History. It's a pretty significant overlap, and even the two terms, TFL and incel are very alike. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 03:37, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
    they're a bit different. TFL is mostly populated by ethnic minorities, particularly blacks as a Youtube search of "tue forced loneliness" shows. Secondly, TFL seems less focused on sex and more on relationships. Incel discussions seem a bit more clinical whilst TFL discussions seem a bit more interpersonal. The third difference is that TFL exists solely on youtube, whereas incels are all over the place. Riptohelsinway (talk) 04:11, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. Merge would be better as per LGM. Bongolian (talk) 18:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Goat[edit]

Move it to draftspace until it's better, then it could be put in the manosphere dictionary. Don't think it should be its own page, though. Spriggina (prat) (insatser) @ 23:29, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Dimitri van der Linden | Result: keep[edit]

Dimitri van der Linden (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Stub article with only mention of his London Conference on Intelligence papers; suggest to delete but merge some of it to the LCoI article. Aeschylus (talk) 01:06, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. Needs analysis, but worth keeping. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 14:34, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. Keep. This seems to be an attempted mass delete by Aeschylus because of a legal threat. Correct me if I'm wrong, @Aeschylus.Bongolian (talk) 00:38, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
  3. If writing about racist dickheads is causing problems for a certain user, that particular user should stop doing it. But that's no reason why all the articles that already exist should be deleted. Spud (talk) 05:49, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

  1. This should just be given its own section in our already-existing article on London Conference on Intelligence. --Goatspeed. Watch meCircularREmail2.gifasoningSee my experiments 01:43, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Goat[edit]

Jan te Nijenhuis | Result: keep[edit]

Jan te Nijenhuis (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Most of article already covered on London Conference on Intelligence and so doesn't need duplicate. I suggest delete and merging some stuff to the main LcoI article like the others I've created deletion or merge requests for. Aeschylus (talk) 02:04, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
So do you think the part of the article that covers events 17 years before the first London Conference on Intelligence should be merged to the article on the London Conference on Intelligence? --Annanoon (talk) 15:24, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. There's more there than just the London Conference. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 14:36, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. Stuff about his PhD and the associated racism row couldn't be merged, but is missional and worth keeping. --Annanoon (talk) 15:21, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  3. Keep. This seems to be an attempted mass delete by Aeschylus because of a legal threat. Correct me if I'm wrong, @Aeschylus.Bongolian (talk) 00:39, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
  4. If writing about racist dickheads is causing problems for a certain user, that particular user should stop doing it. But that's no reason why the articles that already exist should be deleted. Spud (talk) 05:51, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

Aurelio J. Figueredo | Result: keep[edit]

Aurelio J. Figueredo (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Stub article that just mentions his London Conference on Intelligence works that are already mentioned on that main separate article, also seems to not be noticeable at all. Article is far too short and pointless, furthermore there's no other sources on the guy. Doesn't need a separate article to LCoI. Aeschylus (talk) 23:34, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. Racist pseudoscientist is missional, has published works, article could be expanded. "Not noticeable" sounds like someone can't read Wikipedia guidelines closely enough to quote them accurately, and we're not Wikipedia anyhow. --Annanoon (talk) 00:12, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. Per above. Radiant Orb (talk) 16:35, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  3. Tis probably okay and missional, despite being known mostly for this one thing. NekoDysk 16:40, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  4. It's okay. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 14:33, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  5. Keep. This seems to be an attempted mass delete by Aeschylus because of a legal threat. Correct me if I'm wrong, @Aeschylus.Bongolian (talk) 00:40, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
  6. If writing about racist dickheads is causing problems for a certain user, that particular user should stop doing it. But that's no reason why the articles that already exist should be deleted. Spud (talk) 05:54, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

  1. Expand the bullet point on him in London Conference on Intelligence. I think it's important to let people know either way that he's not a figure to be trusted. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 23:38, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Goat[edit]

Gerhard Meisenberg | Result: kepp[edit]

Gerhard Meisenberg (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Stub with just his London Conference of Intelligence papers and an opening paragraph with very few sources. He also resigned last month from editing Mankind Quarterly and no longer is associated with it. Suggested delete, but merge some content on either the LCoI & Mankind Quarterly article(s). Aeschylus (talk) 00:03, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. Someone who sells credentials shouldn't leave RationalWiki unscathed. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 02:11, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. Keep. This seems to be an attempted mass delete by Aeschylus because of a legal threat. Correct me if I'm wrong, @Aeschylus.Bongolian (talk) 00:40, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
  3. If writing about racist dickheads is causing problems for a certain user , that particular user should stop doing it. But that's no reason why the articles that already exist should be deleted. Spud (talk) 05:55, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

Fróði Debes | Result: keep[edit]

Fróði Debes (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Stub, with too little information and also seems not noticeable; is already mentioned on London Conference on Intelligence. Recently deleted was another guy who attended this conference but article was a stub. Doesn't seem a point in having these articles as these people are mentioned on main article for London Conference on Intelligence. Aeschylus (talk) 22:43, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. Keep. This seems to be an attempted mass delete by Aeschylus because of a legal threat. Correct me if I'm wrong, @Aeschylus.Bongolian (talk) 00:40, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. If writing about racist dickheads is causing problems for a certain user, that particular user should stop doing it. But that's no reason why the articles that already exist should be deleted. Spud (talk) 05:57, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
  3. Keep - David Gerard (talk) 21:46, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

  1. Don't think we should remove information. If the article isn't suitable, then we should relocate it. We should make mention of him in International Society for Intelligence Research and London Conference on Intelligence, but I guess we can just expand the bullet point on him in the London Conference on Intelligence article. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 23:35, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Goat[edit]

James Thompson | Result: keep[edit]

James Thompson (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. I suggest deleting and merging some of article to London Conference on Intelligence like the other deletion requests I made - article is too short and just mostly mentions about his LCoI activities. Thompson was the organiser of the conferences. Aeschylus (talk) 05:31, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. James Thompson is a prominent hereditarian. I thought this site existed to document crankery, such as people who believe IQ is affected by DNA differences. When was "too short" an objection? Radiant Orb (talk) 16:30, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. Mass nominating participants in that conference on the basis of that being "the only thing in their article" when their articles, in fact, contain other things is really quite annoying. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 16:34, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  3. Also sexist and racist tweets, as mentioned in article. Plainly missional, and if anyone can be bothered reading more of his tweets or other texts then I'm sure there's much more that could be added. (As an aside, I know RW isn't Wikipedia but it still has procedures and if you want to merge an article then there is a procedure for that, and it doesn't involve deleting it first.) --Annanoon (talk) 17:49, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  4. Keep it. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 14:29, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  5. Keep. This seems to be an attempted mass delete by Aeschylus because of a legal threat. Correct me if I'm wrong, @Aeschylus.Bongolian (talk) 00:41, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
  6. If writing about racist dickheads is causing problems for a certain user, that particular user should stop doing it. But that's no reason why the articles that already exist should be deleted. Spud (talk) 05:59, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

Heiner Rindermann | Result: keep[edit]

Heiner Rindermann (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Article is mostly his London Conference on Intelligence papers and little else, no need for two articles, can merge some to LCoI article, but I vote for this deletion like others. Aeschylus (talk) 06:50, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. No, this is fine. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 21:13, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. Agree with LGM. NekoDysk 22:57, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  3. Also agree with LGM. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 14:30, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  4. Plenty of missional material independent of the London Conference on Intelligence. --Annanoon (talk) 15:26, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  5. Keep. This seems to be an attempted mass delete by Aeschylus because of a legal threat. Correct me if I'm wrong, @Aeschylus.Bongolian (talk) 00:41, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
  6. If writing about racist dickheads is causing problems for a certain user, that particular user should stop doing it. But that's no reason why the articles that already exist should be deleted. Spud (talk) 06:01, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

Adam Perkins | Result: Keep[edit]

Adam Perkins (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Not much on page except his London Conference on Intelligence involvement and some trivial things such as claims to have apologised for sending some offensive tweets years ago. Would be more suitable to merge some of it instead to main LcoI article. Aeschylus (talk) 14:26, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. Delete is overkill. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 21:12, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. Plenty of info in this article anyway. NekoDysk 22:54, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  3. Article really isn't bad. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 14:31, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  4. Could be expanded with material on books and research papers (including that impressive correction which is not provided with full context). --Annanoon (talk) 15:29, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  5. If writing about racist dickheads is causing problems for a certain user, that particular user should stop doing it. But that's no reason why the articles that already exist should be deleted. Spud (talk) 06:05, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

===Goat===‎

Michael A. Woodley of Menie | Result: keep[edit]

Michael A. Woodley of Menie (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Vast majority of article is his London Conference on Intelligence involvement that is covered on main LCoI article; doesn't need two articles. Has apparently claimed article is a character assassination, compare for example to his Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_A._Woodley_of_Menie,_Yr. IMO some of the criticism such in relation to LCoI is perfectly valid, so I suggest delete and merge a small section to LCoI article. Aeschylus (talk) 15:30, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
That's not a link to a valid Wikipedia entry. Could you try proof-reading your posts and testing your links? --Annanoon (talk) 17:52, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
@Annanoon The full stop at the end of the link is part of it, try wikipedia:Michael A. Woodley of Menie, Yr. instead. FYI this is why people should always use [ ] characters to enclose urls. NekoDysk 18:09, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. If it's got things wrong, list them or fix them. It's not a bad article in terms of writing, citations, and missionality. I'm aware of the possibility of flagrant misrepresentation, and we should absolutely be made aware of any specifics, but "he says it's a hit piece" describes hundreds of peoples' responses to their RW articles. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 16:00, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. Seems relevant beyond the one thing, no real reason or need to delete. NekoDysk 16:07, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  3. Why does Aeschylus‎ want to delete all of the articles on these cranks? It seems like a sabotage attempt. Radiant Orb (talk) 16:34, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
    Eh, benefit of the doubt would say that they think articles for each individual nutter from the London Conference isn't worth going into. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 19:22, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
    Yeah, may we please assume good faith here? The "sabotage" accusation is uncalled for. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 22:39, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
    It's more likely that Aeschylus came under legal threat. Bongolian (talk) 02:33, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
  4. Keep. Bongolian (talk) 02:33, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
  5. If writing about racist dickheads is causing problems for a certain user, that particular user should stop doing it. But that's no reason why the articles that already exist shod be deleted. Spud (talk) 06:08, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

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Julius Daugbjerg Bjerrekær | Result: Deleted[edit]

Julius Daugbjerg Bjerrekær (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. User who created article is a banned troll (Mikemikev). It's also a stub; Julius Daugbjerg Bjerrekær has a mere BA in sports science and is a nobody, so its off-mission and most of the article about his LCoI papers is already covered on London Conference on Intelligence. Aeschylus (talk) 03:10, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. It's pretty crap. Somehow it even uses Everipedia as a reference, which is probably not a good sign. There doesn't seem to be any relevance to this person beyond their article here anyway. NekoDysk 22:32, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

  1. But why did Mike create this article anyway? NekoDysk 16:23, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. Impersonation of someone else who he blames the articles on. OpenPsych pseudojournals (who Bjerrekær is affiliated) also banned him from their forum.Aeschylus (talk) 16:50, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  3. Just pretend someone else made the article. Should it stay? --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 21:50, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Purplepill movement | Result: Deleted[edit]

Purplepill movement (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. This article is just a bunch of poorly-sourced nuttery. 216.56.22.183 (talk) 18:28, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. Deleted. Bongolian (talk) 19:40, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

Everything is easily verifiable. I am willing to work on the article if someone lists discrepancies on the talk page. Thank you. Hipppppppy (talk) 18:30, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

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Bluepill movement| Result: Redirected to Manosphere_glossary#Blue_pill[edit]

Bluepill movement (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. This article is ridiculous, "Blue Pill" is Manosphere jargon for those that do not share their delusions, i.e. sane people. There is no two sides/middle ground to this issue, there are those who are insane and those who are not. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 17:30, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
  2. Delete. Bongolian (talk) 19:41, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
  3. Any additional relevant information should be in the Manosphere glossary. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 19:44, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
  4. This is precisely why we have the Mano glossary. Stubs like this should be deleted. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 19:55, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
  5. Not useful as written. If rewritten, chances are low that it'll improve it enough to keep, but I've got an open mind to writing something useful. For now, redirect to manosphere_glossary#whateverthesectionis ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 19:56, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. I have changed the very first sentence to say that the term is jargon used by deluded people. Hipppppppy (talk) 18:13, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
    You need to survey the hole before you dive in. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 19:45, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

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  1. Debunking this crap would be missional, but it is possible that Manosphere glossary#Blue pill serves this purpose. NekoDysk 18:25, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

January[edit]

Dalibor Jurášek | Result: It's been 12 days. Nobody's said it should be kept. Deleted.[edit]

Dalibor Jurášek (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. The article is barely missional. Dude has basically once written an article which questions the Holocaust for a dodgy conference. He doesn't have a following, he doesn't routinely do this kind of stuff, he doesn't even really deny the holocaust (but does question it). If he does someday become a notable crank we can easily undelete it. NekoDysk 12:28, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
  2. He's persuaded me that he's not a Holocaust denier (or, at least, isn't one anymore). Also, one short paragraph and one lengthy quote does not an article make. Spud (talk) 13:14, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
  3. Meh. I don't see any strong basis to keep the article, and the talk page for is convincing me more and more that this article isn't good for Dalibor Jurášek. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 20:36, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

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