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RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Archive 2025

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This is a list of old deletion discussions. Newest at the top.

April 2025[edit]

Infofascism | Result: Vaporized[edit]

Infofascism (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. This should have better sources if it's worth keeping at all. Original research is one thing, but RationalWiki shouldn't be Terrell E. Arnold's personal webblog. This article is on top of the search result, too, and the concept really doesn't seem to mean much. I really resent stuff like that. Elf (talk) 19:20, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. Jeez, a link to Jeff Rense's conspiracy webshite? This is beyond ridiculous. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 15:35, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
  3. Reads more like something that belongs in a listicle. Plus, our Censorship article already mentions in bigger detail what can be read on that page... Arcadium Trancefer (talk) 13:48, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

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Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

Eyeslasho | Result: Delete? Aye, aye![edit]

Eyeslasho (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Per @Pinkerite's comment: "Eyeslasho a very average Xitter racist whose only notability is being retweeted by Elon Musk? If that's the case, I don't understand why they even have a RW entry with all their unnoteworthy, typical racist beliefs splashed all over their page - why not delete the Eyeslasho page and just add a section to the Elon Musk page?". Basically Eyeslasho is a Twitter troll who has changed his account handle about a dozen times. Most recently this includes changing it to @"rational_wiki" to troll this site. The same individual owns many other Twitter and Facebook accounts (he was previously "A New Radical Centrism" on both) and probably uses more than 50 aliases and pseudonyms online. I don't think it was wise for RationalWiki to accept a page on a demented internet troll with so many fake names. The same attention seeking troll has a penchant for impersonations (creating fake accounts impersonating other users) and has repeatedly lied about their own biographical background on Twitter. It seems they also likely created a fake doxx of themselves. This person likes to troll people with fake doxxes and identities. I believe they are the same person who wrote the fake doxx of themself on that Substack. Suffice to say, creating an article on a mentally ill troll was not needed and it has resulted in him creating the @rational_wiki handle and apparently impersonating the RMF elsewhere. It is also possible that Eyeslasho owns the @Griffina account who created their own article. 45.250.252.153 (talk) 16:30, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. There are multiple links directly to Twitter than no longer exist and were not archived (#13-16 confirmed, but probably a lot more). I would expect that one of the people that wants this article to remain (@GeeJayK, Antares, and Lavalizard101) would fix this (deleting any otherwise unsubstantiated text that uses these links) if the final vote is to keep. That's the bare minimum to de-crapify this article. The account owner appears to have gone on a deletion spree in preparation for a lawsuit. Bongolian (talk) 23:48, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
    I checked several and they are tweets that were never archived. Since no archives exist, Eyeslasho will likely lie and deny the quotes are real and there is no way to substantiate either way. For example, references 44, 47, 52 are deleted and don't exist on archive.is. Like 40% or more of the article will have to be deleted since no archived copies of many of his tweets exist. It remains unclear why in the first place archived versions were not linked to and only the live URLs. I don't think it's a salvageable article. 62.12.119.243 (talk) 01:41, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
  3. Bongo convinced me. Antares (talk) 00:53, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
  4. Lots of unfounded accusations in the article. Maybe we should move away from this kind of drama more generally. Elf (talk) 22:21, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
    Can you provide one unfounded accusation? Eyeslasho was posting eugenics and pro-natalism but in the past month deleted all those tweets and has tried to reinvent himself. Anarcho-communist (talk) 10:31, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
  5. I don't know much about this poster specifically, but a mass deletion of eugenics 2.0./low-level race science crap would have my blessings. The constant trolling on here probably has something to do with these articles, and I see no real reason for this website to cover it in such detail. Is RationalWiki really supposed to be doing the SPLC's job? They have like a billion USD endowment, people. EllyPo (talk) 17:58, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
  6. I don't think it serves us to be giving any oxygen to some troll on the cesspool that is X. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 18:56, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
  7. Non notable internet troll with hardly any independent sourcing. 2001:67C:6EC:203:192:42:116:184 (talk) 21:53, 1 April 2025 (UTC) Either we strike out all IPs here or we strike out none of them. KaDaShOvA (talk) 22:44, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
  8. We cannot cover everybody who has ever said something racist on the internet. We can't even cover everybody whose posts have been shared by Elon Musk who's ever said something racist on the internet. Spud (talk) 11:19, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
    He's not some rando. He has over 200k subscribers on Shitter. Antares (talk) 17:42, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. As everyone knows, I hate Twitter drama, but this person has almost 200k followers, so I think they are notable. Besides, the fact that we pissed him off makes me believe that we did something right by having this article. GeeJayKWhere all evil dwells Where every lie is true 16:37, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
    This Twitter troll isn't some random asshole. He's an asshole who has the ear of Elon Musk. Antares (talk) 16:53, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. He has 200k followers he's not some rando asshole. Especially considering he's well versed enough to be pissed at us. Random assholes tend not to get pissed at us. Lavalizard101 (talk) 17:06, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
  3. KaDaShOvA (talk) 18:06, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
    So, will you fix the problem of the many dead and unarchived references, @KaDaShOvA? Bongolian (talk) 21:04, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
    Hm, ok. I'll be less busy soon. If this discussion ends in a keep, I'll look into removing potential libel and other cruft from the article. KaDaShOvA (talk) 22:42, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
  4. Confusing situation. I'd just keep some minimal version of the article. If there is a legal reason to delete articles on people like i/o, that decision should probably be made elsewhere by the site mods or community. I'll remove my vote if newcomer input isn't welcome, though. Whatever. ☣🍆☣ (talk) 18:12, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

#This Eyeslasho far-right person is actively gaslighting and impersonating RationalWiki and trying to damage this website through X.com and in private emails https://x.com/rational_wiki/status/1907081051383501005. Deleting this article is exactly what he wants and will be a huge win for him 2001:67C:89C:702:1CE:1CE:BABE:2 (talk) 21:41, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  1. One of the most influential X/Twitter "hereditarians" (=racists) out there. He also likes to post misleading crme statistics. If he doesn't deserve one of our articles, I don't know who would. On a related note, RationalWiki should really come up with a stringent notability guideline for social media figures. How many subscribers exatly would be a necessary condition for inclusion? Post-Stalinist (talk) 17:03, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
    What metric are you using to claim that Eyeslasho is "one of the most influential" anything? I never heard of him outside of Rational Wiki. And for those who say he can't be a rando because he has a lot of followers - exactly how many followers does a garden-variety anonymous Twitter troll need before they are no longer a rando? And RW already deleted someone who actually matters in the world of hereditarians, Emily Willoughby who is much more influential than this rando weirdo who some people on RW are inexplicably obsessed with. So if Emily Willoughby's article can go, Eyerando can certainly go. Pinkerite (talk) 22:01, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

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  1. Yes, I recommend a section in the Musk article, as Eyeslasho themselves does not seem to be more than a very average pseudonymous X/Twitter troll, made infamous for being retweeted by Elon Musk. A pseudonymous Xitter troll with a big following is not noteworthy other than one more demonstration that Xitter is a shithole where racists gather. And pissing off a racist is not the point of a RW article, even if often a side-effect. Pinkerite (talk) 16:38, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
    It's incredibly frustrating that the persuasive argument here seems to be that the Eyeslasho article is a crap article with bad non-archived links (which is true) rather than there's no point in having an article about an anonymous X/Twitter account. Yes, Eyeslasho is obnoxious and racist - but you can say the same about a million other X/Twitter accounts - are you going to give each of those an article too? Other than people at Rational Wiki, who gives a damn what this rando says? Elon Musk retweeted them TWO YEARS AGO. It was only noteworthy then because some people still needed convincing that Musk is a racist and a Neo-Nazi. Some have argued well Eyeslasho has a lot of followers - but that's likely because Musk retweeted them. It all comes back to Musk. Pinkerite (talk) 15:31, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
    And then there's the fact that the Emily Willoughby article was taken down, although it was a fair-to-good article about a non-anonymous person who has an actual impact on promoting race pseudoscience - and so racism - both for her past attempts to add race pseudoscience claims to Wikipedia articles and for her being a major player currently, in the International Society for Intelligence Research. She's orders of magnitude more significant than a X/Twitter rando, if less obvious about her racism. I really don't understand the priorities of some of you here. Pinkerite (talk) 15:31, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Goat[edit]

  1. I am the account owner of Eyeslasho, I use many pseudonym to conceal my identity. I am not filing a lawsuit against anyone, some other troll is trying to stir up trouble over that. I find the article about me funny. The reason I impersonated RationalWiki is because this website is claiming I am a eugenicist. I do not support eugenics, nor am I far right. I am a centrist. I am really not bothered if you delete or keep my article but at least keep it accurate. As for Elon Musk I now no longer support him, this should be obvious from my more recent tweets. Yonalkhas (talk) 00:24, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
    Can you confirm your identity here on X? This place is infested with impersonations while the real Eyeslasho also creates fake accounts. It is hard to tell who is who. 98.98.43.163 (talk) 00:37, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. Mixed. On the one hand, yeah the fact that a lot of the cited tweets no longer exist even in archived form is kinda problematic and while I'm not a legal expert we probably shouldn't be playing with fire right now. If this is kept, it will need a significant cleanup to avoid any issues. That said, in 2025 you can't argue that Elon Musk-endorsed Twitter bullshit isn't having a significant negative effect in the real world and if this person is actively maneuvering against RationalWiki I don't really want to let them off the hook. Plutocow (talk) 19:34, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
    We're facing six lawsuits (as far as I'm aware). I would normally argue to keep this article, but the fact that we're being hit with a deluge of SLAPP suits + the fact that this article is so shoddily written suggests that we're better off burning this article and perhaps starting from scratch. Either that, or do what Pinkerite suggests. Antares (talk) 21:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
Linking to to my important discussion ---> here. Eyeslasho is now falsely claiming to be the "new director" of the RMF and is likely also the individual impersonating the RMF on emails. 165.22.12.74 (talk) 17:05, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Note to mods[edit]

You should lock this to admins only. A bunch of suspicious new accounts (days or a few weeks old) are randomly showing up to vote. I thought a ban was placed on new accounts voting? 24.144.119.32 (talk) 17:21, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

The restrictions were for policy votes and elections, not for AFDs. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 17:33, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

March 2025[edit]

Michelle Hopkins | Result: Terminated[edit]

Michelle Hopkins (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Does not meet the minimum number of followers rule (100,000+). She has 75K.[1] Bongolian (talk) 17:18, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. Scream!! (talk) 17:55, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
  3. Inactive too. Antares (talk) 18:20, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
  4. The Great YouTube Purge continues. Spud (talk) 12:57, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
  5. Make it go away. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 14:42, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
  6. Elf (talk) 19:11, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

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Merge/Redirect[edit]

  1. Merge into HAARP. KaDaShOvA (talk) 21:22, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
    What content do you think should be added there? Christopher (talk) 05:23, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Goat[edit]

Oy vey | Result: Redirected to Alt-right glossary#Oy vey[edit]

Oy vey (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. I have already merged this article's content into Alt-right glossary#Oy vey to see what that would look like. Fits in quite well. I think this article really isn't needed until someone has the time to significantly expand upon and source it better. I wonder what the community has to say. Elf (talk) 20:44, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. Looks ok. ☣🍆☣ (talk) 23:26, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
  3. No substance.Kamehameha (talk) 11:49, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

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  1. It would be trivial to make it a better article. It's also, by far, one of the most prominent alt-right memes out there and, therefore, deserves special coverage. Totemtrained (talk) 11:37, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

Atheist thumper | Result: Thumped and dumped[edit]

Atheist thumper (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

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  1. The article just is a listicle of atheists (which we have a category for) and some really bad in-jokes. Any legitimate use for this page is already covered under fundamentalist atheism. Plutocow (talk) 03:07, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. Didn't even know it existed after all these years. Bongolian (talk) 05:58, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
  3. Antares (talk) 06:55, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
  4. Bloody awful. Spud (talk) 10:47, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
  5. KaDaShOvA (talk) 11:21, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
  6. Yeah, this sucks. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 12:19, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

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Black chamber | Result: Total blackout[edit]

Black chamber (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. I clicked random page and found this article. I don't find it particularly useful or interesting. Besides, there's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_noir already, and it's way more detailed. This is my first proposed deletion. I wonder what the community has to say. Elf (talk) 18:11, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. Dogshit stub without citations beyond a link to an already existing Wikipedia article. Antares (talk) 18:47, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
  3. Nothing of substance here, even if the topic is missional. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 13:18, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
  4. This one should have been immediately placed in draft what it was created. After ten years it seems that no one is willing to do a proper treatment. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 13:21, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
  5. Low quality. Apparently, the general attitude here is deletionism. I'm ok with that. CapitalF (talk) 13:29, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
  6. Merde! Spud (talk) 11:54, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
  7. KaDaShOvA (talk) 15:50, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
  8. Redundant and pointless. We don't need articles for every political term. Ioe bidome (talk) 16:00, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

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RationalWiki:Vandals | Result: Binned[edit]

RationalWiki:Vandals (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. This usergroup no longer exists in the code and this page only serves as a vandal magnet. The original reason for creating the article is obsolete (as Special:ListGroupRights no longer links there) and there's no reason to keep it around. Plutocow (talk) 02:17, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. Pointless. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 02:23, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
  3. A somebody. (talk) 05:06, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
  4. If it no longer exists, it no longer exists I suppose. Totemtrained (talk) 08:41, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
  5. Per all Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 13:19, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
  6. Oh, Jesus tapdancing Christ on a bike! No! The last thing we need is a page called RationalWiki:Vandals. Kill it now and protect it so that no tosser can ever recreate it. Spud (talk) 11:49, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
  7. Troll Antares (talk) 11:51, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

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Friends of Hamas | Result: Merged with Ben Shapiro[edit]

Friends of Hamas (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

Keep[edit]

  1. I don't know. Two or three additional citations and the article could be worthwhile enough. Totemtrained (talk) 01:41, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

  1. There isn't really too much behind the subject of this article beyond it being a hoax that was quickly forgotten. It can be merged into Ben Shapiro or Breitbart, but as a standalone article it's just going to forever remain a stub. Plutocow (talk) 00:12, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
  2. Plutocow makes a good case. EllyPo (talk) 17:32, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
  3. to Ben Shapiro. —🌌 Lunar 🌠 17:34, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
  4. Redirect to conspiracy theory. Lucern99 (talk) 17:44, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
  5. 👁️4️⃣🔎 (talk) 08:33, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

Goat[edit]

February 2025[edit]

Lee Ingram | Result: Deleted[edit]

Lee Ingram (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. I came across this article because some guy who seems to have been stalking its subject just created a RationalWiki account. The most the guy's ever done is get 354 votes in a 2011 local election. He's got less 153 followers on the youtube channel linked in the article, and 216 on the more recent one provided by his stalker. The article consists of Facebook screenshots and other boring internet drama. Christopher (talk) 00:42, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
  2. And most of the references are broken. Candidate for speedy deletion. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 01:25, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
  3. Delete, non notable person. Oldman4 (talk) 09:35, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
  4. Per all above. Monet Ye 08:00, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
  5. Presenting some internet nobody from 10 years ago as if he were an important and influential figure in right-wing politics. Exactly the kind of crap that RW has to free itself of. Spud (talk) 17:07, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  6. I agree with Spud; this is the kind of article we need less of. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 17:42, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

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Template:Odinname | Result: Gone to Valhalla without a tear being shed[edit]

Template:Odinname (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Only used in Norse mythology, it's also a useless redirect. GeeJayKWhere all evil dwells Where every lie is true 11:51, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
  2. Not much point having a template that can only be used on one page and doesn't even need to be used there. Spud (talk) 12:28, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

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Julia Sweeney | Result: Canned[edit]

Julia Sweeney (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. So she had one monologue about atheism that was quoted by Richard Dawkins and that's worthy of an article? The article is also a crappy stub. Plutocow (talk) 02:31, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
  2. I question why this farticle was created in the first place. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 02:51, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
  3. Enough has been said. ミ★ LunaAHHHHH 02:56, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
  4. Dogshit article. Carthage (talk) 03:10, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
  5. Evaluation: Incineration. A somebody. (talk) 03:19, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
  6. Uninteresting. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 04:11, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
  7. Bad article. The formatting is especially screwed-up. Fedora (talk) 13:45, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
  8. Looks like a badly-written stub about a nobody. EditorialMaster (talk) 20:11, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

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January 2025[edit]

Lee Jussim | Result: Given the "hatchet"[edit]

Lee Jussim (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. stubby, does not seem sufficiently missional Bongolian (talk) 04:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
  2. This one is borderline missional. So what if he's influenced by HBD twits? This fact doesn't justify an article here. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 18:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
  3. I'm not sure if my vote as a newcomer counts for much, but guilt by association is dishonest business. I applaud the initiative. MalAdeptus (talk) 20:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
  4. Neither the research by this guy as described, nor his politically tinted engagement, seems to reach up to a missional level of anything. --ApooftGnegiol (talk) 21:47, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
  5. -Flandres (talk) 23:03, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
  6. Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 11:34, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
  7. Gonna go ahead and delete it since consensus (including my own) seems overwhelmingly in favor of axing it. Sincerely, Postuhenin the neurodivergent doodlebug! (say hi! ^^) 07:25, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

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  • The "politicization of academia" is a reactionary dogwhistle, by the way. Carthage (talk) 22:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Eric Hobsbawm | Result: Deleted[edit]

Eric Hobsbawm (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. I don't think this Afd will pass, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't. Yes Hobsbawm is missional, but right now, I think this article is too inaccurate even for draftspace (see my post on the talk page[2] so TNT would probably be a better idea. GeeJayKWhere all evil dwells Where every lie is true 11:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
  2. After looking him up and reading some stuff about this guy, I agree that the article seems like a hit piece and a mischaracterization. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 15:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
  3. Carthage (talk) 15:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
  4. Dear god that sourcing. A somebody. (talk) 22:39, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
  5. TNT time. -- Techpriest (talk) 22:17, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
  6. cosmikdebris talk stalk 22:36, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

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  1. The citations seem flimsy. Few appear broken, one directs to some publisher, one appears to be a blog post and two cites being from not entirely reliable right-leaning newspapers, Daily Mail and (post-2007) Wall Street Journal. In comparison the English Wikipedia counterpart seems to have more authoritative citations on the subject. -- DangerousTomaccoUser (talk) 09:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Fróði Debes | Result: Deleted[edit]

Fróði Debes (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Article is only 1 paragraph and some block quotes. Does not appear to be remotely noticeable. 185.112.82.146 (talk) 11:39, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nominator. Kadashova (talk) 12:12, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
  3. It's probably trolling, but I don't really find much notably pseudoscientific / racialist / hereditarianism about this guy, other than the one (honestly rather bad) linked article in Intelligence whining about Stephen Jay Gould and "wah! media!" (of which far more notable racialists are involved). BobJohnson (talk) 20:47, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
  4. Agreed. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 22:30, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
  5. He might be an article-worthy. But this is not it. Bongolian (talk) 03:37, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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  1. Improve, don't delete. This man is clearly missional, and documenting the racist pseudoscientists who work to give racist pseudoscience some level of pseudolegitimacy is important. Carthage (talk) 11:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
I can't find any evidence that Debes has published racism. His papers quoted on article are about prenatal exposure to methylmercury and a Faroe Islands study. Nothing to do with race. From what I can tell this guy got an article because he attended the London Conference on Intelligence but if you look around for sources on internet you finding very little about him. It should be noted the article never actually described Debes as a racist but a "HBD" proponent, although to some (many?) people those things are synonymous or related. 185.77.217.177 (talk) 12:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
My problem with "improve don't delete" is that articles kept with this reasoning are almost never improved. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 19:14, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

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  1. Given the timing, this could be an attempt at trolling. I'll still vote delete until that's established. Kadashova (talk) 12:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
  2. I'm sorely tempted to vote "keep" just to spite whoever's trying to bombard the AFD with sockpuppets and whining. But I don't know enough about this guy to cast judgment on this article one way or the other. ABigBoxOfSand (talk) 04:47, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Category:Woo-meisters | Result: All woo[edit]

Category:Woo-meisters (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

This article has been requested to be deleted before. See here for that discussion.

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  1. Another category that suffers from being poorly defined similarly to Enablers before it. "Woo-meisters are those who try to separate desperate people from their money by peddling false hope." So basically Category:Scams "The term can also apply to individuals who ascribe to multiple types of woo." So basically Category:Crank magnetism. The fact that there are two separate definitions for the same category is never a good sign, and this feels like another one that is just mindlessly slapped on the pages of people we don't like. Plutocow (talk) 09:18, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  2. Carthage (talk) 09:21, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  3. Yeah, it's redundant. We have Category:Shysters dedicated to charlatans, and Category:Pseudoscience promoters for those who spread a lot of woo. Those are parent categories of Category:Woo-meisters, and together they cover all legit uses of it. --ApooftGnegiol (talk) 12:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  4. This category seems like an artifact of the early RationalWiki snark pattern, and as noted above, is redundant and poorly defined. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 22:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  5. I agree with the above points. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 20:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
  6. Delete - agree with all of the above EditorialMaster (talk) 03:01, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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  1. Before you delete this category, please let me remove all pages from it first. A somebody. (talk) 03:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
    You do know we could do it automatically with User:Inferno Bot, but whatever. Plutocow (talk) 04:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
    @A somebody., I've asked Techpriest to run it, so you don't need to manually clear the rest of the category out. --ApooftGnegiol (talk) 17:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
    After a day, I decided to wait no more and set up User:GoryCatizer Bot and run it myself. --ApooftGnegiol (talk) 21:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Naturopathic medicine laws by state | Result: Go look it up on the internet[edit]

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  1. Just a list compiled mostly from a single website. Not updated in five years, and unlikely to be maintained regularly. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 17:41, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
  2. Agreed. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 19:12, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

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