Information icon.svg The election booth for the RationalWiki 2019 Moderator Election is now open. Cast your votes today!

Talk:Donald Trump/Archive3

From RationalWiki
Jump to: navigation, search

This is an archive page, last updated 22 April 2019. Please do not make edits to this page.
Archives for this talk page: <1>, <2>, (new)(back)

Biting the bullet[edit]

Are there any other examples of the 'inappropriately greased bullet' apart from the Indian Mutiny and the General Pershing story? 86.191.20.133 (talk) 12:08, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Donald Trump's achievements[edit]

This header started on What is going on at CP? - and should (also) exist here.

What are his achievements?

  • Not causing WWIII yet.
  • Persuading the rest of the World to rely less on what the US/its leadership can or will do.

Others? Anna Livia (talk) 10:33, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

'The living embodiment of Poe's Law.

How soon before Godwin's Law is invoked? 109.146.55.74 (talk) 21:32, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Dating problems[edit]

I'm reading the article start to finish and it feels like there's some severe problems with dating. Like, it was written in time past but hasn't been updated for the current day. I'm kinda whacking things as I go, but it feels like it doesn't deserve it's silver brain with how these are written. Zero (talk - contributions) 17:56, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Mexico/the Caribbean[edit]

No sympathetic comment on the earthquake and hurricanes.

Very sad.

Very bad.

LOSER. 109.150.43.52 (talk) 09:43, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Badmouthing the Puerto Rican governor. Bad form. 86.191.0.40 (talk) 21:08, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Next target for diplomacy[edit]

This place. Any other possibilities? Anna Livia (talk) 16:58, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

trump wasn't a heel in WWE[edit]

look, i mean, this is saying nothing about the man himself or his politics, but he was a face in WWE. Trump and Bobby Lashley (who looks shockingly like a battletoad) were supposed to be the good guys, squaring off against the evil Mr. McMahon and Umaga. the Mr. McMahon character was not only always a heel, but he was one of the most heinous, overtly evil heels the company has ever had, and the angle was designed to put Lashley over as a new top babyface. unfortunately at the time Lashley wasn't very good at wrestling and he has the head and voice of a scared child somehow attached to a frighteningly jacked meat golem, so it didn't work so well. fun fact: trump's "champion" was initially supposed to be the famed mexican-american luchadore Rey Mysterio Jr. however, Vince McMahon changed his mind at the last minute because he didn't think Trump picking a little guy would be believable. knowing what Trump thinks of Mexicans now, however, this may have been for the best.

24.220.49.58 (talk) 09:40, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Like the Roman[edit]

Will The Donald achieve what JEP feared? 86.191.0.40 (talk) 21:08, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Is Donald Trump an anti-science and anti-tech Luddite?[edit]

Here's the source that says that Trump is a Luddite when he speaks about the "age of computer":

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/donald-trump-technology-luddite-233067

Plus, there's a supporting source that he called computers and the Internet "a wholly mixed bag":

http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2014/12/19/trump-sony-has-no-courage-no-guts-its-extortion.html

And he views digital technology such the USS Ford-class carriers' digital catapult system as "bad to him":

http://time.com/4775040/donald-trump-time-interview-being-president/

On turning his anti-tech Luddite views into policy: here's a source where he omits Internet networks from list of infrastructure goals:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2017/live-updates/trump-white-house/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-trumps-address-to-congress/trump-omits-internet-networks-from-list-of-infrastructure-goals/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.2a28406e372d

I think this warrants the fact that Trump is just an anti-science and anti-tech Luddite, and is not a fan of tech who helped him propelled into office. @Bongolian @CowHouse -- Bryan See (talk) 07:48, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Or continuing the tradition of 'the tubes of the internet.' Anna Livia (talk) 10:17, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
A reasonable argument cat be made that Trump is anti-science from the ass-clowns that he appointed to e.g., NASA (Jim Bridenstine, climate change denier), DOE (Rick Perry, climate change denier, and forgot he wanted to eliminate DOE), EPA (Scott Pruitt). However it's a big leap from being anti-science to a Luddite: he's addicted to TV (Fox News) & his iPhone (Twitter): not much of a Luddite, he just uses technology selectively. The first reference you give says, "He's sort of a Luddite." Bongolian (talk) 17:42, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
We all have 'bits of equipment/technology' which we are in favour of and those we are Luddite to varying degrees with (for many people the latter would include self-service machines which fight back). However with most of there is no direct impact on the future of the world beyond 'supply and demand'. Anna Livia (talk) 21:27, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Trump belongs in the Homophobes, Anti-Semites, and Insufferable assholes categories[edit]

He spoke at the Values Voter Summit and Liberty University, never mentioned Jews at the Holocaust memorial speech and said on the campaign to a Jewish group "I don't want your money" and "I bet 99.99% of you renegotiate deals", and is overall an ar$ehole.— Unsigned, by: 72.194.68.96 / talk / contribs

On talk pages, please sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the sign button: SigButt.png on the toolbar above the edit panel. You can also indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line. Thank you. —ClickerClock (talk) 05:40, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
Category:Enablers does a good job at covering the possibility that Trump himself isn't anti-Semite but he sure is cozy and complacent with other anti-Semites. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 22:49, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

MAGA[edit]

For a site that calls itself "Rational Wiki", there's an alarmingly irrational hatred of Donald Trump on here. #MAGA 68.188.68.66 (talk) 21:38, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Oh it's very obvious what this site is about and what its contributors seek to accomplish. The very title "RationalWiki" is the epitome of arrogant. Those who are legitimately rational can display it in their words and deeds; they have no need to drive it home. It's like when a closeted gay person makes sure that everybody knows they're 100% straight. Their ardent defence of feminism, atheism, and criticism of GamerGate and websites like YouTube suggest to me that they're some kind of fringe remnant of the Atheism+ movement. The frequency of activity here suggests to me that this site has maybe like a couple hundred or so active users. TL;DR, they're a gaggle of washed-up losers. Harmless losers, but losers nonetheless. Probably best to just ignore them and let them fade into obscurity. --23.17.210.180 (talk) 07:25, 6 December 2017 (UTC)CLP
And yet you still decide to make talk posts here. þe olꝺe Ꞅƿɽyᵹᵹyna (ꞇalc) (conċꞃybs) @ 19:00, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Big beautiful goals[edit]

How many of DT's goals has he achieved? Anna Livia (talk) 18:42, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Check the Trump o Meter.ClickerClock (talk) 07:58, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Interesting. Thanks.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 08:53, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Blowing a Trumpet[edit]

Where are the latest bigly beautiful quotes?

What is the relationship between Trump quotes and truthiness? Anna Livia (talk) 18:54, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Buttons[edit]

What no reference yet?

'Superficial Freudian analysis' anyone? Anna Livia (talk) 18:38, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Trumps says he's a genius on Twitter[edit]

From his twitter:

Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart. Crooked Hillary Clinton also played these cards very hard and, as everyone knows, went down in flames. I went from VERY successful businessman, to top T.V. Star to President of the United States (on my first try). I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius....and a very stable genius at that!

A genius who doesn't know how to use ellipses properly. It's three periods not four.—(((CheeseburgerFace))) Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 23:49, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

His first try my ass, he ran a few cycles back but chickened out. Comrade GC (talk) 23:53, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
And he uses English, like, really well.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 21:31, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Taking the psis on ellipses. 109.158.61.202 (talk) 22:24, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Encounters[edit]

The Donald meets this chap. Who blinks first? Anna Livia (talk) 12:15, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Due process[edit]

It's probably worth mentioning Trump's hypocrisy on legal due process, connecting his behavior on the falsely-accused Central Park Five case, and the accused wife beater on his staff, Rob Porter. Any suggestions on where to shoehorn this in?[1] Bongolian (talk) 22:23, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

The Wall[edit]

Is Trump's wall this one? 109.148.156.121 (talk) 12:32, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

So much for "Rational" Wiki[edit]

Why don't they just call this site "Safe Space Wiki" or "Liberal Snowflake Wiki" already??? 204.184.14.156 (talk) 20:50, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

"But I thought this was supposed to be RATIONALWiki!" Drink! Do you need a safe space? 𝔖𝔭𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔤𝔦𝔫𝔞 (𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨) (𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔱𝔯𝔦𝔟𝔲𝔱𝔦𝔬𝔫𝔰) @ 20:55, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

William Shakespeare[edit]

From Macbeth

  • ...Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
  • That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
  • And then is heard no more. It is a tale
  • Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
  • Signifying nothing

How apt? Anna Livia (talk) 22:03, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Dinesh D’Souza[edit]

We should talk about how Trump recently pardoned Dinesh D’souza. (LuodiWang (talk) 16:14, 1 June 2018 (UTC))

ah, i see this is a liberal wiki[edit]

so as usual its gonna be MUH IMBREACH GUMPF HE RAYCIST FOR STOPPING ILLEGALS yadda yadda yadda i have nothing more to say and so i bid you farewell forever may you remain eternally butt hurt — Unsigned, by: 1.123.7.158 / talk

It's nice to see illiterate children making constructive contributions to the wiki. Cosmikdebris (talk) 17:53, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Dude. You need to visit the Trumptastic Wiki. It's more your street. Dysklyver (talk) 17:54, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
I can't take anyone who insults my intelligence while failing to properly capitalize and punctuate their sentences seriously. (Not to mention ignoring the instructions at the top of the page when they begin editing, due no doubt to their righteous fury.) ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 18:05, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
You guys need to learn to ignore. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 21:03, 12 July 2018 (UTC)


Lewis Carroll[edit]

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.” Anna Livia (talk) 23:00, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Really Long Article[edit]

This article is pretty long, to the point that it's getting kind of difficult to navigate. Should we consider trimming it? RoninMacbeth (talk) 18:06, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

We can consider splitting off before trimming it. I'm not really all that confident on what information should be trimmed though, but I think at least the Russian connection part can be turned into its own article. The other sections... I'm not sure what some are about at a glance. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 18:11, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
I agree, it's probably a good idea to split off some of the material. Trump franchises affiliates ("Becoming the Swamp") would be a good one to split off, as well as "The Russian connection" which is likely to grow. Bongolian (talk) 18:12, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
@Bongolian @RoninMacbeth @LeftyGreenMario @Dysklyver I support creating a new page for "the Russian connection." I personally thought this article is getting a little unwieldy. Glad I am not the only one. Nerd (talk) 01:12, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
You guys may wanna head over to my sandbox. I would love to have your input before I actually create that new page. Thanks! Nerd (talk) 01:34, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
I think decline of democracy is more generally applicable, so it should be part of the Donald Trump article. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 03:31, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
It's a reasonable extraction from the current article. Bongolian (talk) 04:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
I agree. Dysklyver (talk) 09:16, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
@Bongolian @RoninMacbeth @LeftyGreenMario @Dysklyver Cool. So "Decline of democracy" stays here. Do we have an agreement? Any other major changes you guys want? Nerd (talk) 13:34, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
What about "Iran"? I think that section needs more explanation. Otherwise, I think it belongs to "Donald Trump". Nerd (talk) 13:39, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Trumpocalypse seems disjoint from the article. It should be merged to an existing subsection and probably moved to a higher spot given it implies he's president and that's more current events right now. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 18:55, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
@LeftyGreenMario Policies of Donald Trump is synonymous with "Trumpocalypse", according to whoever created that article. I gave the link to that main article. Nerd (talk) 23:50, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Like with the other place's' article, a large chunk of this is about the election and what happened in that period. Now this leaves us with two options; either split off the old content and keep updating this article with new Trumptastic information as it happens. Or the second option, which is to split off the new controversies into new articles and update those other articles, leaving this one more or less the same. Just be warned, the other place has 926 articles about Trump and counting... Dysklyver (talk) 19:16, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
I was under impression that Policies of Donald Trump was supposed to be the "new information", and that's getting to be a huge article too. We also have Great Wall of America, though that's reasonably sized. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 19:22, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
I guess you could call conspiring with Russia a Trump policy. The "Moscow Mules"/"Prostrate Eight" would seem to agree.[2] 😉 Bongolian (talk) 19:36, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@Bongolian @RoninMacbeth @LeftyGreenMario @Dysklyver New page created. Old page cleaned up. Nerd (talk) 01:19, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Goody. Well, one more thing, the "Rhetoric begets reaction" can also be spun off into its own article, like a list of well-known attacks he has done on people. Maybe even do a side-by-side commentary on the stuff he has said, or a side-by-side actions and consequences sort of thing. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 19:49, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
I quite like that idea. Dysklyver (talk) 20:08, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
@LeftyGreenMario @Dysklyver Good idea! Please check out my sandbox. Nerd (talk) 00:01, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
You should nab the subsections above it: "I am the most militaristic person ever", "Assassinate Hillary Clinton", and maybe bits of subsections after "Idiocracy"? --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 04:46, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
@LeftyGreenMario Done! Look at my shiny new article over here! Could you please clean up the lead section for this article? I think much of it has already been covered elsewhere and, in any case, it is a little too long. Nerd (talk) 14:10, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @LeftyGreenMario What do you think of the page now? I think it is reasonably sized. Nerd (talk) 03:42, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

"Trump isn't a fascist" edit war[edit]

@GrammarCommie @Sailor Haumea I'm gonna reluctantly throw in my two cents by saying that I also don't think Trump qualifies as a fascist. I honestly think labeling him as such is highly detrimental to our political discourse, as fascism is a term with an actual (if vague) definition, and misuse distorts it to become meaningless. Trump ultimately fails to meet at least four criteria for what makes a fascist:

1). Economic Control -- Fascists were anti-capitalist since they viewed wealth as leading to weakness and decadence. They wanted to put the country's essential economic sectors under the control of the state, and they did so by taking over or coercing unions and corporations. Trump is a capitalist, even if he does have idiotic ideas about how trade works. He's not going to go for the pseudo-nationalization stuff that fascists did.

2). Anti-Liberalism -- Fascists always end up destroying democracy due to their belief that all citizens must have absolute loyalty to the state. While Trump demonizes those who disagree with him, he's never advocated for ending the American republic. There's going to be an election in November, and Trump won't do anything but complain if his party gets shithoused.

3) War -- Fascists are warmongers who want to overturn the world order. Trump obviously isn't this, as he criticizes America's foreign adventurism, and has been irresponsibly naive when dealing with NorK. Most of his aggressive foreign policy actions have been publicity stunts, like dropping a MOAB in Afghanistan or launching a few rockets at Syria.

4). Genocidal Racism -- Trump isn't going to commit genocide. His racist remarks are always dog whistles, and he's never expressed any desire to murder a population. Fascists always said what they were going to do beforehand, and so did Trump. There was nothing in his speeches about an American Holocaust. Frankly, with the way he treats people from every other country, I'd almost say his problem is more generalized xenophobia than it is actual racism, although that's up for debate.

Trump is a threat to democracy and a terrible influence on America's politics, but I don't think it's appropriate to call him a fascist. Using 'fascist' as an insult towards him is designed solely to elicit a strong emotional response, and it's not rooted in any reality. Call him a far-right populist. That's what he is. If we don't have a category for that, then someone should make one. Here's a Vox article if you want a prettier version of what I just said. DuceMoosoliniForum Romanum 00:44, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

@DuceMoosolini@Sailor Haumea It appears I was wrong, as the Slate article I was basing my conclusions on says the opposite of what I thought it did. I apologize and will rectify the matter post haste. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 01:01, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
And in 100 years time, people will be arguing over whether President Ooh-Uh Eh is a "Trumpist" for imposing trade tariffs on Martian imports... Dysklyver (talk) 08:05, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
That would be stupid. Trump did not invent tariffs or protectionism. Nor is he alone in being skeptical of free trade. Nerd (talk) 03:36, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Children and family[edit]

We should have coverage of the Trump family members (mainly his sons) who have roles in the Trump business empire or White House, probably not separate articles but something to provide background. Not sure where is best to add this information. --Gospatric (talk) 11:03, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, the general rule of "leave politicians' children alone" should maybe be disbanded in cases of flagrant nepotism and filial corruption. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 13:56, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
@Gospatric @Ikanreed Agreed. If they are eighteen years of age and over and are involved in politics, it's fair game. I suggest creating a section within this article for them. If there is enough relevant information, said section can be broken off into a new article, like what we did with the Trump-Russia connection, for example. Nerd (talk) 14:33, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Government shutdown[edit]

Oh the irony:

I would be willing to “shut down” government if the Democrats do not give us the votes for Border Security, which includes the Wall! Must get rid of Lottery, Catch & Release etc. and finally go to system of Immigration based on MERIT! We need great people coming into our Country!

—Donald Trump 2018[1]


A shutdown falls on the President’s lack of leadership. He can’t even control his party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the President is weak

—Donald Trump 2013[2]
References

(((CheeseburgerFace))) Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 23:36, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Hm, I read the snopes article and he didn't say the above quote. However, he was critical of Obama for the government shutdown.—(((CheeseburgerFace))) Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 23:40, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Rare moments of sanity: TPP[edit]

Can someone also add a note stating that Trump removed the US from the Trans-Pacific Partnership? I am unable to edit the article yet because of the anti-vandalism protection level. — Unsigned, by: CommanderOzEvolved / talk / contribs

@CommanderOzEvolved Done! Nerd (talk) 16:23, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Trump's cabinet[edit]

To what extent is it the political equivalent of [3]? Anna Livia (talk) 15:05, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

That is a metaphor that doesn't stand on it's own without further explanation. It's got holes? It's got self-similarity? ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 15:31, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Tiny pieces keep falling out of it? 141.134.75.236 (talk) 15:41, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
There is increasingly less of it and increasingly more coverage of the absence.
So beautiful big, so many holes.... Anna Livia (talk) 18:33, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Bizarre object[edit]

You can buy a President 'Donald Trump Chia Pet Head.' Anna Livia (talk) 18:39, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Don't bother with that sort of thing. Nerd (talk) 20:58, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Wasn't going to - just came across it.
Which of [4] and related beasties resembles the Donald most? Anna Livia (talk) 22:48, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Gigantactis gargantua seems pretty close. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 23:45, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
I own a Homer Simpson chia pet head; I got it at a charity silent auction several years ago. Cosmikdebris (talk) 23:50, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Anti-Semite[edit]

Would it not be appropriate to place Donald Trump in given the comments he made to the Republican Jewish Coalition (R.J.C.). When speaking to the R.J.C. he said, "I'm a negotiator like you folks, we are negotiators". He also said, "Is there anybody that doesn't renegotiate deals in this room? This room negotiates them -- perhaps more than any other room I've ever spoken in." He's basically reinforcing an anti-semitic stereotype. There is also the fact that in his speech, in 2017, on Holocaust Memorial Day, he made no reference to Jews, Judaism or anti-semitism.

— Unsigned, by: Peadar237 / talk / contribs 19:39, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Burpelson Air Force Base[edit]

How would Donald Trump and Brigadier General Jack D. Ripper interact? 109.150.43.103 (talk)

They'd either be friends or tear each other's hair out. Willthenut (talk) 19:42, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Pumpkin[edit]

As there are various 'Trump-pumpkins' out there (and instructions on how to carve them) - can one be displayed here? Anna Livia (talk) 19:40, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

RationalWiki Is Run By SJWS[edit]

Whoever is making up this crap is a maniac! We can be white or male, but we don’t force us to be fat black women, because that’s all you care about, and you think it’s good to be LGBT+ when it is a sin by God. Learn the truth people! Fine, kill me, hunt me, eat my pizza, but I still touch my toy trains. — Unsigned, by: 107.77.237.191 / talk / contribs

The above is incoherent nonsense. Go take a nap and come back when you're sober. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 13:31, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
What just happened? I'm no fan of professionally angry ideologues who like to tell other people how to think and what to be outraged about. But boy, that was some logic. Nerd (talk) 14:04, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Not even wrong man, not even wrongDoublethink (talk) 03:03, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Anyone care to do a pseudo-Freudian pseudo-analysis of the initial statement? Anna Livia (talk) 10:48, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

My resource has been deleted by Bongolian. Why?[edit]

I added this resource to the page and my resource was removed. Why? Titofrito (talk) 01:39, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

I would've reverted it myself. Not only is there hardly any description for the link you added("A Fan" isn't useful way to describe a video), the video itself is some random nobody's video called "12. Trump", has only 97 views at the time of the posting, has 28 subscribers, and the rest of the videos don't appear to be much quality content. I see little reason to include this video, doesn't seem to be quality enough to be posted as an external link to a page with high traffic. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 01:45, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
It's funny and relevant, that's why. This guy is either really good satire or he really believes this stuff. The video shows just how crazy Trump fans really are. Titofrito (talk) 02:13, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
We don't really need to populate our pages with crappy video references. Bongolian (talk) 02:53, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
It's not a crappy video. Titofrito (talk) 15:30, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
That's your opinion. Nerd (talk) 16:02, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, and nobody is willing to tell me why it's so bad. Please, by all means, give me 4 reasons. Titofrito (talk) 16:54, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
1. Shut. 2. The. 3. Hell. 4. Up. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 19:18, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
I'd like to add four more: 1. Your. 2. Videos. 3. Are. 4. Shit. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 19:32, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Melania Trump[edit]

Given the number of 'body double stories' there are at various different times/in various sources - should there be some mention on RW? Anna Livia (talk) 14:42, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

I don't know about the number of such stories, but it passes the "I've seen people on the internet talk about it like it's true" test for conspiracy theories. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 15:09, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Google suggests rumors have also been covered in quite a lot of mainstream media sources, so it's definitely worth a mention. --Annanoon (talk) 15:30, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Would this do for starters?
Even if it is only a fake-news-meme it is sufficiently within RW-criteria to be given at least a subsection on the DT page. Anna Livia (talk) 18:42, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Hated too much[edit]

Why is Trump hated so much? He is not the worst person on Earth. — Unsigned, by: 2600:1:F18A:CC1B:69B1:C26A:B21C:8204 / talk

Yes, he is the Worst Person on Earth™. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 19:22, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
Instead of hating, why don't people just look at the positive things politicians do and ignore the negative? — Unsigned, by: 2600:1:F18A:CC1B:69B1:C26A:B21C:8204 / talk
Because The Worst Person on Earth has no positive qualities. He wouldn't hold that title if he did have positive qualities. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 19:28, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
Well not taken your money. That is a positive thing. — Unsigned, by: 2600:1:F18A:CC1B:69B1:C26A:B21C:8204 / talk
False. He didn't release his tax returns. Bad thing. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 19:40, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
On talk pages, please sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the sign button: SigButt.png on the toolbar above the edit panel. You can also indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line. Thank you. Some of us, we don't have the luxury of thinking happy thoughts and hoping all the bad shit goes away. We actually have to deal with it, not ignore it. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:06, 31 March 2019 (UTC)