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for Cosmikdebris

Reason: being awesome

Thanks a lot for maintaining the grunt work around the wiki, particularly archive maintenance! --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 21:49, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Rollback

Hi, did I do something wrong? How come you gave me autopatrolled then rolled it back? Scribbinus (talk) 20:15, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Checkuser

Are we running checkuser now? Because that has been a big no-no in the past with it failing every vote whenever put to the mob. Ace^Moderator 01:30, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Dysk showed us a way to use checkuser. — Oxyaena ^Harass 01:32, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

So you run checkuser. Ace^Moderator 01:32, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

What's wrong with that? — Oxyaena ^Harass 01:33, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

To the best of my knowledge we are not, but Oxy says there's a trick. I am ... disturbed by this. Cosmikdebris (talk) 01:34, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Yeah - me too. Ace^Moderator 01:41, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Tell me when you're done eloping with that serial harasser and then we can talk about being "disturbed." — Oxyaena ^Harass 01:44, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

I told them to fuck off Oxy. But it's none of your fucking business who I talk to off-site. So fuck off. Ace^Moderator 01:46, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Oxy, in all truthfulness and honesty I emphasize with your issue with certain serial abusers here, but that's not the point. Doing checkuser here is borderline abuse. Cosmikdebris (talk) 01:47, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

I recognize that, and I`m sorry I brought it up in the first place, but I myself haven't used it. I know a way exists, not how to exploit that trick. — Oxyaena ^Harass 01:49, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Hmhmm now I remember being told that there is a way to get IP addresses without using CheckUser, and CheckUser actually was just an *easy* way to get IP addresses. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 01:52, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

It sounds to me Oxy uses it - his "It was just a joke" defence is pretty flimsy. Ace^Moderator 01:53, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

"HER". --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 01:55, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

@Ace McWicked Seriously, go back a ways in Oxyaena's block history and note how he has said things like "I'm going to harass your employers in Pensacola, Florida". And everytime anyome complains about him, they are labeled a sock of me or some troll. Look at Ox's interactions with EK and D, as well as how other sites have dealt with his ass. Notice how Ox admits to having mental problems. Ox and Co need to lose the toolset forever. 2607:FB90:9154:9555:0:1E:7304:FB01 (talk) 01:55, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes, her. I get confused because Oxy's youtube videos are in a males voice but refers to herself as a female here so I get confused. But I'll keep trying to remember. Ace^Moderator 01:56, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

It's not that fucking hard to determine that the Pensacola troll crowd is active. You don't need checkuser for that. Cosmikdebris (talk) 01:59, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure nobody said CheckUser was necessary, sure, but it seems like Oxyaena wants better evidence than pattern detecting, which Ace hasn't been convinced by. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 02:02, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Award

		Tireless Worker Award
		For dedication beyond the call of duty Cosmikdebris For archiving stuff and and doing other jobs the wiki needs doing

Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 03:12, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Cosmikdebris

		Tireless Worker Award
		For dedication beyond the call of duty Cosmikdebris I like your username!

--Auri (talk) 06:40, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Unplanned article reversal

Why did you do this? Isn't it better to try to be truthful, instead of "jokes" that don't quite add up? There is a prominent scene in the movie with black women: two who are pro-life, and one with her daughter who is pro-abortion. There's also the Radiance Foundation, Alveda King and many others of many ethnicities supporting this movie. Lastly, let's not forget the many churches, composed of many ethnicities, who watched this filmed: white, black, Asian, etc. To claim that Unplanned is for whites only is misleading and makes the "RationalWiki" article come across as a hit piece. --LABcrab (talk) 03:49, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

@LABcrab A few things that flagged your edit. First, looking at your description, you refer to this article's contributors as racist, xenophobic liberals. That is a very good way to signify to your fellow editors that you have a seething disdain for this wiki and its contributors. You state that many people of color watched this film and that it was endorsed by Alveda King et.al. Nowhere is this referenced, nor is it mentioned in your edit summary. Next, I am not a fan of using strikeouts when they're not needed. Lastly, the use of the word "mainly" is wishy-washy and should be reconsidered. In summary, I recommend that first, don't insult the wiki and people who contribute to articles here with inflammatory language, and if you have evidence for your claims, back them up with solid references and bring them up on the article's talk page. Your contributions will then be less likely to be flagged as whitewashing and reverted. Cosmikdebris (talk) 17:33, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Block request

Please block my account for a week. I really need to take a break from this website. Thank you. Dino (contribs) 03:04, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

The deed's done. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 04:03, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Charles Coughlin

You don't want that in there? I think that's neat! --47.146.63.87 (talk) 01:11, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Ban

So, you banned me because you want to fit in? Or were you afraid because some editions you don't like were being made? Or maybe because it's easier to do an ad lapidem this way. Of course, you may have thought I was the troll on the Milton Friedman page yesterday, but as you can see, you banned the wrong guy. Not that I think you'll admit your mistake if that's the case, of course. 2804:14C:5B72:8664:31B6:EEAC:E5D7:F725 (talk) 20:15, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

What the fuck are you babbling about? Cosmikdebris (talk) 20:23, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Politic-Ed

Hello, please explain why you keep on stopping this from being an article? Is it too short? Not enough references? What? Please explain??--Barca119 (talk) 19:24, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

@Barca119 Yes, all of the above. Too short, not enough references. Please take a look at Help:Wikitext and RationalWiki:What_is_a_RationalWiki_article?. Cosmikdebris (talk) 19:26, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Slaphead

As you may be vaguely interested about the username you blocked - in the UK 'slaphead' is colloquial for 'bald': make of that what you will. (Creatively misinterpreting cod Freudianism can be useful.) Anna Livia (talk) 15:27, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Rtyhu456

My tendency is to block for the middling term by preference (rather than the longer terms often meted out as a follow-on) - sufficient to divert the fly-by-nuisances.

I could have been 'slightly more lurid and technical' in my comment but such persons #are not worth it.# Anna Livia (talk) 18:25, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

I

apologize, I was heated and I let my emotions get the better of me. — Oxyaena ^Harass 18:30, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Oxyaena That's cool, it happens to all of us sometimes. Cosmikdebris (talk) 18:32, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Yeah.... don't get me wrong capitalism is still the bane of my existence, but calling for genocide was uncalled for. Capitalism and birds, I fucking hate birds. — Oxyaena ^Harass 18:35, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Referencing book

Hey, could you demonstrate how to reference a book please? It would really help me. Thanks! Nebuchadnezzar7658 (talk) 02:16, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

@Nebuchadnezzar7658 See User:Nebuchadnezzar7658/sandbox. Hope this is useful for you. Cosmikdebris (talk) 00:31, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Blocking Ken and removing his talk page edits

This is not the RationalWiki way. You don't just remove people you dislike or disagree with--"Shut up, Brx." 20:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

@GrammarCommie @Brxbrx This was not an ideological block. Those posts were spam and the user in question engaged in repeated spamming and edit warring. Cosmikdebris (talk) 21:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

This isn't the RW of yesteryear. — Oxyaena ^Harass 21:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

@Brxbrx If Ken agrees not to spam the same subject across multiple pages I'm fine with him coming back. However, RW does not exist for Ken to post SEO spam, and it does not exist as an extension of CP. Therefor it follows that he should adhere to a few basic guidelines if he is to edit here. Such as, again, keeping a subject on one page and not spamming it, not spamming his "red telephone" messages, and using actual sources rather than his screeds "essays". I don't think such restrictions are unreasonable, do you? ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 21:55, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Auto Revert

You seem to have autoreverted my edits to Sedona Method. Was it because I didn't create an identity or some deeper reason? I'm new here. Wanna explain or direct me to where I can read about what to do and not do? My edits are in the tone of the existing article and are intimately accurate. Alan Rasmussen of Tucson ^{— Unsigned, by: 98.33.166.130 / talk}

You should add references for your claims, especially when they relate to living persons. Cosmikdebris (talk) 00:03, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Vinnie Tortorich's page

Hi, I was hoping to update Vinnie Tortorich's page to make it more accurate and give it gravitas. It seem thought that you have blocked my changes. I am new to this and wonder if you can tell me what to do. Many thanks B ^{— Unsigned, by: User:Benscottthomas / talk / contribs}

I suggest you visit the article's talk page and discuss your proposed changes there. Thanks, Cosmikdebris (talk) 00:28, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Reference Test

You gave me an example of how to reference a book. I was wondering, does this work? Test.

Let me know if I can reference books this way. Thanks! Nebuchadnezzar7658 (talk) 02:42, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Looks like it works just fine. Cosmikdebris (talk) 13:49, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Help with the Leo Gura article?

Hi Cosmik,

First, thank you for the great work that you do all around the wiki.

I worked with one of the original authors of the article on Leo Gura. Our article has been brought up on Leo's forum among his followers and has been angrily derided. Right now I'm concerned that there is someone who is sympathetic to Gura who is currently editing and watching the page. The user in question, HairlessCat, has reworked the article to be much more sympathetic to Gura, calling some of his ideas "profound and resonating," to "epistimically sound," writing that Gura no longer believes some of the crazy things he says when there is no evidence this is the case, and deleting critical statements that others have written about Gura on the article.

Could you give me advice on how to proceed? Sampson (talk) 21:52, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Chris Ferguson

How come Chris Ferguson is listed under the race realist/alt-right who Bo Winegard retweets on his article https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bo_Winegard#RationalWiki and im curious what evidence do we have that Chris Ferguson is a race realist cause while he was opposed to Winegard's firirng he is seen refuting those claims here https://twitter.com/CJFerguson1111/status/1237096588411121664

Is there something im missing? ^{— Unsigned, by: Aliciaofqueens / talk / contribs}

A cursory search for Ferguson reveals that he has authored articles for Quilette, a seamy alt-right website, including one that can be described as Gamergate apologetics. This puts him squarely in the alt-right camp, so the association in the article appears valid.

The single twitter reference you cite is insufficient evidence to remove Ferguson from this category. If you can provide a reference where Ferguson explicitly rejects race realism and alt-right ideology I'll be more than happy to remove reference of him from the Winegard article. Cosmikdebris (talk) 00:13, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

But writing for a website that has a history of those positions is not one in the same as supporting them is it?

People like Steven Pinker have written for quillette and hes not listed under alt right and racialist

On top of that he linked a study he did claiming something quite the opposite of race realism

http://christopherjferguson.com/DrameFerguson.pdf ^{— Unsigned, by: Aliciaofqueens / talk / contribs}

Sorry about that. I removed the protection from the Bo Winegard talk page. I'd appreciate it if you could continue the discussion there. Cosmikdebris (talk) 00:30, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

And please, On talk pages, please sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the sign button: on the toolbar above the edit panel. You can also indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line. Thank you. Cosmikdebris (talk) 00:30, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

archiving the bar

I just wanted to let you know that I have reinstated an archive bot in the bar, which means that it's on automatic Archiving again. Check User:Inferno Bot. The setup for the bar is threads older than 5 days being archived, with automatic rollover when the archive page reaches 250k bytes. That means there is no need to manually archive again. Posting this since I noticed you manually archived the coop last night. Techpriest ^{(I am Alpharius! / / / )} 09:08, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Noted, thanks. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 16:56, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

do not be an asshole

I see you reverted some edits not nice bugger off ^{— Unsigned, by: Raghavway / talk / contribs}

Yes, but do you understand why they're reverted? --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 03:30, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

@Raghavway Nice way to be civil. Are you nine years old? —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 03:44, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

well sometimes some people just understand the language they understand, no? User:Raghavway/sig 9:17, 3 July 2020 (IST)

For bad work

Edits to IQ why? User:Raghavway/sig 9:24, 3 July 2020 (IST)

@Raghavway What are you talking about? ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 03:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

The edits in question were poor quality opinions and so I reverted them. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 03:59, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

How so sire? It was plain truth User:Raghavway/sig 9:35, 3 July 2020 (IST)

"The use of IQ as a measure for intelligence enjoys widespread white supramacists incels." Please provide a citation for this statement. "IQ is basically a shining example of 'Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth'" Your opinion which is not appropriate for the article. If you're going to make statements like that, for Bob's sake, please provide some context. Out of the blue opinions like this make the article (and you) look stupid. And please, if you're going to edit articles here, please use the preview button, use proper grammar, and fix simple mistakes like spelling errors and missing periods. I repeat, are you nine years old? —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 04:14, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

for "Bob's sake" love being racist, right?

Sorry to be such a spoiler but IQ is a lie

well yeah grammatically they are incorrect just remove the first one but keep "IQ is basically a shining example of 'Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes :::::the truth" because it just is, or are you one those who believes that IQ is a measure of intelligence?

I am 14 btw User:Raghavway

@Cosmikdebris "The use of IQ as a measure for intelligence enjoys widespread white supramacists incels." <- I don't know about the "incel" part but white supremacists do use IQ as a scientific-looking sheen to justify being a white supremacist. It's a really big part of the wiki: hereditarianism which is on our extensive coverage of racialism. Also, please try to keep the insults on stupidity and lack of proper grammar and spelling to a minimum, I suspect Raghavway doesn't have English as a first language, so please be extra patient with this user and fix any mistakes that are made. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 04:45, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

@LeftyGreenMario It's really hard to be civil when some random asshole leaves a note on my talk page calling me an asshole and telling me to "bugger off." —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 14:49, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

@Cosmikdebris Well, truth is a bit harder to digest, @LeftyGreenMario please revert the edits —Raghavway 14:49, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Please stay away from my talk page. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 17:44, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Yeah I already told this person to be nice. If they do continue that behavior, then I'll take more action. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 18:46, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Okay Sorry, I'll be nice but why are you reverting all my edits? I know I did some grammar mistakes and I'll be extra careful next time User:Raghavway/sig 9:10, 4 July 2020 (IST)

Don't be on this talk page. Thank you. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 03:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Board of Trustees election

It would be great if you could be a returning officer / vote counter for the 2020 trustees election, it's STV same as the mod elections last year. — Z 14:10, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ze I'll be happy to coordinate the foundation election. I have the tools set up and ready to go. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 15:19, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Epic. — Z 17:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Nomination

You've been nominated to the RationalMedia Foundation election. Please accept or decline here; if you accept, you may wish to campaign.

— Bongolian (talk) 22:27, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi!

Hello Cosmikdebris, why did you revert my edit to Noah (film)? I like your name by the way! TheFonz (talk) 09:10, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Great Link

[The best, really ^{— Unsigned, by: 2001:8003:59DB:4100:4AF:E5A6:91FB:D64E / talk}

If 'KKK and BLM are the same' is your idea of thoughtful and well-informed, I think you should finish up school first. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 02:46, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Can’t believe the Founders control the entire Dominion while living in a shitty JBP subreddit 14.200.71.173 (talk) 06:17, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for dealing with TheFonz

I was at work and there's only so much I can manage with my cell phone during coffee breaks, so I appreciate you taking care of it. Really don't want to deal with his nonsense anyway while I'm still learning the ropes.Coigreach (talk) 20:35, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Regarding the Face masks draft article...

Is it safe to be released from draft phase? If not, what should be added more? The Sqrt-1 ^{talk stalk} 12:29, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

@Sqrt-1 I think it's ready, so I'm going to move it over with some minor edits. Thanks, —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 16:07, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Autopatrollhood

Can I be Autopatrolled, please? Fowler (talk) 13:33, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Sure. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 13:36, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Gee thanks! Fowler (talk) 13:37, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

RationalWeb Update

Hey! I heard you have perms to manage RationalWeb.org. RationalWeb announcements could use a new blogpost about the 2020 Board of Trustees election. Thanks! The FCP Foundation (talk/stalk) 19:09, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

@FuzzyCatPotato Done. Here's the updated announcement. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 20:43, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

@Cosmikdebris Thanks! As an aside, would you like to be included in the RMF board meetings (since you have some technical power/expertise)? (Gonna be honest: They're boring and low-utility.) FuzzyCatPotato (talk) 21:00, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

@FuzzyCatPotato Sure, I'd be glad to help in any way I can. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 21:00, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

@Cosmikdebris Great! If you [1] email me (talkpage or hairyfelinetuber [at] gmail [dot] com) or [2] DM me on Discord (fcp#1356), I can get your private contact details. Thanks! FuzzyCatPotato (talk) 23:36, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Done. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 23:45, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Block

Please indef block me. Thank you in advance. — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 02:18, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

@GR You got it. Sorry to see you go; I truly wish you could have become part of the community. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 02:21, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Appreciate the help on Austin Steinbart any suggestions on areas to expand/improve?

Open to any suggestions, thanks! TapTheForwardAssist (talk) 08:21, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

I must say...

As far as the trolling goes around here, that was surprisingly nice and funny. Annoying, but also good. Not like the usual crowd of fash/tankie/anti-vax folk who come to chat with us. Anyhow, thanks for cleaning the place pal. Mind yourself! - Rairyu75 (Talk) 17:38, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

on terfs

What do you mean the article is still associated with feminism>?? Terfs are not feminists they are hateful bigts and homophobes, NOT feminism. And it was even in the category "feminist moonbattery (which sould be deleted by the way, along with most "moonbattery" categories), implying that it IS feminism and that terfs are feminists. It is very inaccurate and false

Catgrrl37-0 (talk) 06:06, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I said "associated with feminism" which is indeed true. I never said "implying that it IS feminism and that terfs are feminists" and the inclusion of those categories does not make that inference, either. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 18:54, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Elections

You've been nominated in the upcoming moderator elections. See the nomination at RationalWiki:Moderator elections/Nominations.

Ariel31459 (talk) 17:39, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Votes

You're the returning officer, yes? Did you get the votes? - David Gerard (talk) 21:17, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

@David Gerard Yes, I did. Thank you very much! —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 00:00, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Why?

It's a circular link. 71.215.100.2 (talk) 00:48, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

You're right, thanks for pointing that out. I've fixed this. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 01:08, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

No problem. 71.215.100.2 (talk) 01:12, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the help. I'm going to do some reading to figure out how to protect and delete pages on my own so I can do stuff like that myself. I appreciate you protecting my page. Twodots (talk) 00:21, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Ilhan Omar

You removed the link to Justice Democrats. Yes there's no such page, but she is/was connected to them, right? Shouldn't some kind of reference (such as wikipedia) remain? Dave Wise (talk) 18:17, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

@Dave Wise Sure. I added a mention to her article that she was endorsed by the Justice Democrats. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 21:05, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh right. Thanks. Dave Wise (talk) 00:42, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Man

you're scared of me and my arguments which is why you never refute anything ^{— Unsigned, by: 2607:fea8:2ba0:1f6:1d1e:a682:7510:9d0c / talk / contribs}

Go away, you pesky little insect. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 19:29, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Again you're still scared why is why you resort to ad hominem attacks like everyone on this site buddy is in his 40s but is still editing on a FAKE wiki that spreads propaganda. --2607:FEA8:2BA0:1F6:1D1E:A682:7510:9D0C (talk) 19:31, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Danth's Law seems to apply here. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 19:44, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

While being a salty jealous bully's law applies to you (pseudointellectual also). --2607:FEA8:2BA0:1F6:21CB:8C65:9E93:82CC (talk) 20:13, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Ok, this dude's started getting into harassment territory. I'm giving em' a one hour block.Twodots (talk) 20:19, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh. Apparently, someone else had already done dang did it while I was writing something clever for the block. Woopsy-doo! Twodots (talk) 20:29, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

What were you gonna right for the block, also you're censoring my freedom of speech for no reason but just because you're scared and I destroyed all of your arguments and I love because I disagree with you I'm a troll, next I love how i'm "harassing" others when i've been nothing but polite and others have insulted me time after time. --2607:FEA8:2BA0:1F6:51EF:3B49:132:A6BD (talk) 22:35, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

You have a distorted and false idea of what free speech is, asshole. Now, begone. Please stay the fuck off my talk page. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 22:37, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Lol, he's back Twodots (talk) 22:48, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Why is everyone so mean to him he’s a bit hyper but you guys should apologize for antagonizing him and being rude.--2607:FEA8:2BA0:1F6:DC9E:31D5:88E9:86D1 (talk) 22:50, 20 December 2020 (UTC)Italic text

Wow, you're really stupid. We know it's you. Do you seriously think we've never dealt with this before? Twodots (talk) 23:01, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

MGTOW TV

You think I haven’t tried that already? ^{— Unsigned, by: Eric.the.erich / talk / contribs}

What? —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 17:17, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

You Reverted my Edit on Frank Turek but I believe what I added was accurate

On Frank Turek's page, your wiki did a pretty good job except for two minor errors, 1 Frank Turek believes in Old Earth Creation, not Young Earth Creation, which is shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqMwqwb8Vn0. I can add the timestamps if you want but he claims here that science points to an Old Earth and that the Bible didn't mean six literal days. You also claim that John Lennox is a Creationist, he is not, he is a theistic-evolutionist. John Lennox does believe in Evolution in all forms which he talks about in his book Seven Days that Divide the World. I added Ravi Zacharias in that, as he was on the list for Cross Examined, and he is a Creationist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uMjLKNf4ic. --2607:FEA8:2BA0:1F6:B1F8:D661:241D:B956 (talk) 00:05, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I'm not gonna watch the vids, but I'll assume you're editing in good faith and cancel my revert. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 00:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

HairlessCat

It's odd timing that someone on Twitter was bragging about a vandalized page right after HairlessCat edited said page, and judging from your message to his talk page, he has an obsession with bad edits on said page. Have fun with that obvious troll account,cheers

https://twitter.com/Elliottelliot11/status/1303021254291738626 ^{— Unsigned, by: 2001:67C:198C:906:1:0:0:166 / talk}

18:13, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Female supremecy hypnosis

Hi. I'm new to Rationalwiki. I don't understand the process so bare with me. I have to start somewhere. You deleted my edits for only referencing youtube videos and porn sites. This is because I was discussing the concept as it appears on those sites. Did I do something wrong or is my counter argument necessarily invalid as a violation of the rules? Also are you asking me to abandon my edits or provide higher quality discussion of the topic. Thanks. ^{— Unsigned, by: John Smith / talk / contribs}

Some references to a discussion of the topic would be helpful. I searched for this topic on the internet and only found a few hits, mostly on youtube and spam sites. And linking explicitly to porn sites is generally frowned upon here. Perhaps you should ask about this on the article's talk page? —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 00:59, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Let's continue the discussion there. I might need to take a bit longer this time though. ^{— Unsigned, by: John Smith / talk / contribs}

My Article On Faux Centrism

What was wrong with my article. It appears that you don’t like me and are personally attacking my by reverting my edits and drafting my pages. ^{— Unsigned, by: TheRoboKitty / talk / contribs}

For fuck's sake, please, this is not difficult! Sign your posts with (~~~~) or (if that's too fucking hard) by clicking on the fucking sign BUTTON: on the toolbar above the edit panel. (You can indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line.) This keeps the place tidy and stops you looking like a complete arsing tool so please, just fucking do it already.

Oh, I dunno, maybe it was yet another of your stupid stubs that went off on a tangent and used "SJW" unironically and clearly demonstrates a lack of understanding of what centrism or CINOS (centrists in name only) even are. (I'm referring to it in the past-tense because I've just gone and nuked it, with nothing of value being lost.) --Goatspeed. _{See what I'm up to}CircularRasoning^{See my experiments} 03:02, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@TheRoboKitty First, please stop creating drafts in the main space. After trying this half a dozen times, one would think you've got the message. Second, your concept of the political term centrism is severely flawed by using truly incoherent and nonsensical examples. Third, please get over your persecution complex. I am not "personally attacking" you. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 03:14, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@CosmikDebris you have personally attacked me on numerous occasions, you constantly 🎯 my articles. ^{— Unsigned, by: TheRoboKitty / talk / contribs}

Perhaps you ought to try making un-opinionated edits (grammar, spelling, etc.) before engaging in wiki-drama. You're not trusted by anyone here. If you legitimately want to improve this wiki, try working to gain trust. Be useful, stop pushing your POV, and you'll do more. Twodots (talk)

Revert on Fun:Dog

Why is that unacceptable? It’s the fun space for crying out loud! I’m just curious as to your reasoning.71.208.x.x (talk) 15:00, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

I didn't think it was funny. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 15:00, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

You’re right, comparing politicians to dogs is an insult to canines. 71.208.x.x (talk) 15:08, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Some stuff that would be good to have your input on

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Neiltyson1fan#Permaban_for_GeeJayK , and section above that where you commented and https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki_talk:All_things_in_moderation#GeeJayK_was.2Fis_a_ban_evasion_of_IPs_2804:214:81DB:72DF:1:2:CCA7:2F2C.2C_2804:14c:5b72:856c:e4a5:71f4:2df5:57fb.2C_and_2804:214:81de:615e:1:2:c299:18cc.2C_and_multiple_usernames

Thanks! :) Neiltyson1fan (talk) 02:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Article Criteria

Hello! Bongolia said to contact you to check if my current article for Brittany Dier Venti is good to go. Thank you.--Amerimutt (talk) 05:09, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

'Daft username' suggestion

As you are blocking a number of them - a fake RW is created to which such persons (and the automatic filter selection) are banished so they can annoy each other (and they realise there are only four of them). Anna Livia (talk) 20:55, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Recent filter change

Are you sure about it? Any persistent spammer would learn to count the characters (that particular filter is public, so it’s not hard to figure out what’s going on if you know where to look). If you look through the log, there’s the occasional seemingly legitimate user we’d end up scaring off. Any trolling this does prevent is easily cleaned up, and I don’t see it preventing that much.

If you do decide to stick with it, you’d need to change the current notice. Christopher (talk) 21:33, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Christopher I intend for this change to be temporary, as I'm attempting to put the brakes on a persistent troll that has been doing the "register a whole bunch of offensive usernames" thing over the past several weeks. I'm actively monitoring the abuse filter log and will change the action back shortly. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 01:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with my Saloon bar thingy

Pointing out other instances of the similar hoaxes does make you realise how these things occur and are the more likely and logical, via Occam's razor, than a pseudoscientific one, thank you for that :)--WMS (talk) 23:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

@WeakMindedSkeptic I've been fascinated by that particular subject since the mid-1980s when I had, through my employer at the time, access to a satellite television receiver and spent many hours scanning the sky for interesting signals. I was then, and am still, a student of the technology behind this stuff, especially the means that the content providers use to protect their signals from use by non-paying viewers, and the methods used to circumvent those controls. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 01:19, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Editnotices

Changing it from “page” to “group” means it’ll show up on all the subpages automatically, no need to create identical pages for each subpage. You might need to do it differently if you plan on having different ones for each page, but so far they all appear to be the same. Christopher (talk) 20:44, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

@Christopher Thank you for the tip. I'll go ninja shortly and clean up my mess. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 20:45, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

No problem, I got it wrong myself the first time and had to look it up. Christopher (talk) 20:51, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Awesome Award

🧠Rationalwiki

Awesome Award

for Cosmikdebris

Reason: being awesome

For going through the RationalWiki:Websites page and pruning some of the examples in that list. I'd intended to get to examining it closer for a bit (it's honestly somewhat bloated up with people where I question the missionality for when I saw it), but I had completely forgotten of it's existence. Techpriest ^{(I am Alpharius! / / / )} 21:58, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Facilitated Communication

Thanks for fixing my formatting errors! I also noticed there was a change to the "reflist", from 90 to 80%. Sorry for being a newbie, but what does this mean? Has the article become less referenced than it was? Also, what should I do when several, separate, passages, make use of the same reference? Type in another ref with the same URL, or is that bad form? UninspiringNickname (talk) 19:06, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@UninspiringNickname The reflist number simply specifies the scale at which it is rendered, i.e., 80 percent versus 90 percent.

To use a single citation in more than one place in an article, use the name parameter in the ref tag. For example do this for the first reference:

...as seen on the zappahead site.<ref name=zappahead>[http://zappahead.net Zappahead] home page.</a></ref>

and for subsquent references do this:

...as also seen on the zappahead site.<ref name=zappahead />

In the reference list the two citations will appear on a single line.

My editor's guide shows this code in action. Hope this helps. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 19:14, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

It has, thank you :-) UninspiringNickname (talk) 21:57, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

I formally resign.

Go replace me with some delusional asshat or whatever. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 18:56, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Should I edit the user rights, or give GC a day or two to mull everything over? CorruptUser 19:00, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

@CorruptUser I'm going to wait a while before making any action. Thanks. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 01:00, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

How stupid are you???

It says in the deletion log:

15:20, 11 April 2021 Cosmikdebris (talk | contribs) deleted page Category:Populist wingnuttery (unnecessary and empty category)

Since I'm vandal binned, I have to wait thirty minutes just to put one article in that category. And did you even read the edit summary for when I created that category????? Unclescrooge (talk) 15:29, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

You’re right about the vandal bin, but there’s no need to jump to insults. I don’t think we need any more Category:Political insanity subcategories, in fact I don’t think we need any, I’ll nominate them for deletion at some point. Christopher (talk) 15:36, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Huh, I did not know you were in the vandal bin. Regardless, I consider all of the various "wingnuttery" and "moonbattery" categories as superfluous, opinionated, and subject to abuse by random internet slobs who just like to push their political opinions on the wiki. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 15:40, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

The whole point I created the category is because of how increasingly relevant populism is becoming in current politics. Unclescrooge (talk) 16:05, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Populist wingnuttery would apply only to right wingers, populism or populists is a better category imo. Christopher (talk) 16:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Unrelated, but I miss category batshit crazy]] and category insufferable assholes]]. A category about populism (not populist wingnuttery or moonbattery) would be good, but it's also dangerous because populism became a snarl word. We can have a discussion on that though. GeeJayK (talk) 16:18, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

As your name is "Cosmikdebris"

And sounding like a denizen of Spacejunk Galaxy. I expect you know a bit more about Super Mario Galaxy lore. _{and I hope my Mario references aren't anywhere near obnoxiousalso the only good Super Mario Wiki is Super Mario Wiki; it's my internet persona birthplace; at that wiki, you can even see posts where I was still a 14-year old teenager} --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 03:51, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

For your greatest hits collection of RW

You might find this interesting. GeeJayK (talk) 17:06, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

2021 U.S. Capitol riot/Charges is up for deletion

You may care to vote. Bongolian (talk) 17:54, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Bongolian Thank you. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 18:09, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Vote counting for the RWF board election

Can we count on you to do it? Asking since you were the counter last year too, along with Ze (who isn't with the wiki anymore). Techpriest (talk) 08:39, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

@Sirius Yes, I can support the election. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 10:20, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Excuse my Moronic fingers

Sorry! I keep accidentally tapping it when scrolling on the right side of the screen. Leucippus^{Salva veritate} 16:51, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Can you stop?

Stop reverting my edits. It annoys me when people don't trust me to edit SixtyNine,Discussion

Please see my comment on your talk page. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 00:34, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Heads up

Going over its history I noticed you edited Critics of the historicity of Jesus a while back and we have had something about it being on mission and a submission for deletion going to be filed in the talk page. Just wanted you to have a heads up.--BruceGrubb (talk) 01:14, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

"Harrassment"?

I take offense at that. Also if you're going to ban them, ban them indefinitely in case someone figures out the passwords, I only used sixteen characters. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 23:38, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@GrammarCommie I have never known you to use socks, or use them in this way. I assumed that they were someone else. I'm just trying to keep the crap level down to semi-normal levels here. The endless abuse of the coop is very disheartening. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 23:41, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I generally don't use them. It's like me and guns. I can, I just generally don't feel the need to. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 23:42, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey when Ken makes a new account could you get him to direct to my talkpage?

I know he is a troll, but I would love to have a discussion with him. BeardOfZeus (talk) 00:07, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

He has been banned indefinitely from contributing here, and is banned on sight if he tries again. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 00:10, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Who you jivin'?

Sorry to barge in, but I recently discovered the significance of your username (I was browsing the archives of The Skeptic, as I sometimes do) and I must say, this is really good! If RatWiki was a country, this could be its anthem. I especially like the part at 4:40, where he just frickin' shreds the guitar for a solid two minutes. (Also, did everyone here but ME know about your name already? I mean, surely not, some of our sysops can't even buy alcohol yet, for Pete's sake, I couldn't have been the only one...) - Rairyu75 (Talk) 22:57, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

@Rairyu75 Heh, it's an open secret, but probably only recognizable by the older ones here. Also, I have owned the domain zappahead.net since 1998 and I own over a hundred Zappa albums on vinyl. I first discovered Zappa's music around 1977 or so when I found a copy of Over-Nite Sensation in a friend's basement. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 23:02, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Sorry for using the template

But why does it exist though? BeardOfZeus (talk) 02:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

WIGO World protection

Any reason not to open it back up for editing by the general population? I think I understand why you protected it, but I don't see the page as a significant wandal magnet. I could be wrong about that, since I only drop by occasionally these days. Best regards, MaillardFillmore (talk) 16:08, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

As far as I understand, the protection in the WIGO World is similar to WP:ER. If a drive by user wants to add something to the page, they just need to ask on the talk page. GeeJayK (talk) 16:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Ah, OK. I should have checked the protection log. Last time I looked, it was sysop-only; now autopatrolled users can edit. Never mind, MaillardFillmore (talk) 16:28, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

It should be noted that

this was an excellent move - David Gerard (talk) 08:34, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

mod ballot reader

Can you do the ballot reading again for this election? I'm running for candidate this time, so you'll need to find a secondary ballot reader. -- Techpriest (talk) 14:11, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

@Techpriest Sure, I'll be happy to run the ballots. Good luck on your campaign. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 15:13, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks! -- Techpriest (talk) 15:25, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Sundry questions

(1) I’m surprised you’re not running for mod, you’ve got the right temperament. I would certainly vote for you, if you threw your hat in the ring?

(2) I see that you’re a Zappa fan, do you like Dylan? Leucippus^{Salva veritate} 18:35, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

@Leucippus Thank you for the confidence vote, I really appreciate it. At this time I think I can better serve the community by maintaining my present tech role and backing up the mods in any way I can.

Yes, I am also a Dylan fan. I have many of his albums (including a few of the more obscure unofficial releases) in my wall of vinyl. My favorite Dylan tune is Tangled Up In Blue. I last saw him live in concert back around 2007 or so. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 15:47, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

My pleasure. That sounds like probably the better decision ftm. Happy hunting!

I’m a Dylan neophyte compared to you, what songs I do know of his, (mainly from his earlier period) I thoroughly enjoy. “In my wall of vinyl” a beautiful wall I’m sure it is—you simply can’t beat vinyl, be it mono or stereo, the original album covers, the crackle. With perhaps a few exceptions—(off the top of my head) Townes Van Zandt, Joni Mitchell, Leonard Cohen, and Jeff Buckley—, Dylan’s writing ability is truly peerless. “I last saw him live in concert back around 2007 or so” Wow, seeing Dylan live is … well, it must have been a treat! Leucippus^{Salva veritate} 01:31, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Speaking of Vinyl, do you have any early Rolling Stones albums? I for one, think that some of the early Stones songs are perfect in mono, atm my favourites are: “Tell me”, and the beautifully dark Play With Fire (Play with Fire is easily one of my favourite stones songs, period). Leucippus^{Salva veritate} 01:04, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

One of my red label Stones LPs.

Back when I was a starving college student, I discovered that someone had sold a bunch of Rolling Stones LPs to the local record store and they turned up in the bargain bin. Fortunately for me, they were all red-label monophonic originals and were priced very nicely. I agree that in many cases the mono mixes of classic early Rolling Stones material is often better than the stereo mixes. Over the years I managed to acquire both the stereo and mono versions of "Their Satanic Majesties Request" (the original release with the hologram pasted to the front cover). Both mixes are pretty good but I give the mono mix a slight edge. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 01:13, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Wow, what a stroke of good fortune! R.e. Your red label Stones LP: I love all the details, the old copyright notice, especially the bit about “Public Performance” being prohibited, the elegant engraving of “London”. Vinyl is to cds what film is to digital—just as film is the most beautiful medium for Cinema, so also is vinyl the most beautiful medium for sound. There’s just something about mono … I think it’s the rawness of the audio, as opposed to stereo which generally provides a smoother sound. I must confess that I’m less familiar with the Stones’ Satanic Majesties Request, although, of course, I’ve heard and love the classic “She’s a Rainbow”; it’s quite the fascinating album, considering its obscurity and of course its parallels with Sgt. Pepper’s lonely Hearts; how on-earth did you manage to acquire the original release!? Also, was this the last album Brian Jones was involved in? It’s a crying shame Jones died so young, I would’ve been interested to have seen which direction the stones later albums would’ve gone in, had he still been alive.

By the sounds of things you must have some collection. This is probably gonna sound quite clichéd: but it’s fascinating to hear how people came across the records they own, my dad used to on-occasion tell me where and when he was when he came across a particular vinyl i.e. what record shop it was, the guy who owned the store, the listening booths, the difference between his turntable and the stores, etc. Leucippus^{Salva veritate} 01:55, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ In my opinion, as good as all of the above mentioned Stones songs are, they pale in comparison to the Beatles’s “A Day In The Life”—the involvement in particular of Lennon, Ringo, and George Martin, produces a song which is sublime tout court. Leucippus^{Salva veritate} 02:59, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

As luck would have it, I also have the original mono mix of that album as well. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 14:26, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

To rephrase Eastwood: “Luck? Luck’s got nothin to do with it”.—No, but really, you’ve managed to score some absolute gems. Although, I don’t know if you’d agree with me, but I can’t imagine “A Day In The Life” in mono, it’s a song that demands stereo, imo.

I also really like Phil Spector’s production work (an appreciation, which I must confess, has been largely influenced by Scorsese’s work: Mean Streets and Goodfellas, in particular) on such 60s classics as: The Ronettes’ “Be my Baby”, and The Crystals’ “Then He Kissed Me”. I’d be pleasantly surprised if you had either of these Spector productions in your collection. Leucippus^{Salva veritate} 19:29, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

It is possible that I have those songs on a compilation LP. I have probably 300-400 "various artists" LPs with music ranging from the 1930s to the 1980s in every imaginable genre. I am reasonably sure that I don't have any Ronnie Spector or Crystals official releases. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 20:48, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

It’s good to hear that you have such a range of records! I was fortunate enough to have a father who also had a very broad collection of albums, and from a young age, I got to enjoy music from around the world. Another great 60s group is Cream—Clapton, Ginger Baker, and Jack— they have some unbelievably good rock and roll and blues fusions e.g. “Sunshine of your love” and “White Room”.

If you haven’t heard them already, I’d really recommend checking out Be Bop Deluxe, their lead singer—Bill Nelson—is easily one of the best guitarists of all time (see “Axe Victim” for some Godly guitar playing), and yet also easily the most underrated. Here are two Be Bop Deluxe classics: Axe Victim, Maid in Heaven. Leucippus^{Salva veritate} 13:49, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Why is there no evidence for your user blocks?

I checked out contribs of John Fuerst I and the list is null, how you can be sure that they were correctly blocked? hopeful taste (she/her) (talk) 19:28, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

It's Mikey, a troll who impersonates people Plutocow (talk) 19:56, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Alien bases

See my comment on the talk pages, so whatever suits. There are enough websites etc to justify a RW article. Anna Livia (talk) 00:33, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Blocking policy

Please review our blocking policy (RationalWiki:Blocking policy). Generally, we block IP addresses for at most pi days unless there is a recurring problem. Thank you. Bongolian (talk) 19:25, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Hillsong

Hi, do you think Draft:Hillsong is ready for putting back into Mainspace? I just did some formatting work on all the references that were added. --Butter Melon Cauliflower (talk) 03:52, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

@Butter Melon Cauliflower It looks adequately sourced now. Sure, demote it to mainspace. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 03:55, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Great, thanks. I can't move pages from this account though - are you able to? --Butter Melon Cauliflower (talk) 04:00, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

@Butter Melon Cauliflower Sure. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 04:30, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! --Butter Melon Cauliflower (talk) 11:53, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Visions of Johanna

Your favourite Dylan song is Tangled up in blue. My favourite Dylan song has to be Visions of Johanna: words can only approximate the beauty of that song. Leucippus^{Salva veritate} 17:23, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, that one is especially good when the Grateful Dead performs it. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 17:30, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Tbh I can’t imagine anyone but Dylan performing it. Leucippus^{Salva veritate} 17:53, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

oi

why did you block me? 152.22.44.26 (talk) 13:46, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

oi

why did u delete my page152.22.44.26 (talk) 14:59, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

You created a circular redirect to the NFT page. Please stop vandalizing the wiki. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 15:01, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

i made one mistake also why was i banned152.22.44.26 (talk) 15:08, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

You were inserting nonsensical, unsigned comments into talk pages, e.g., [1] and [2] which I interpreted as vandalism. Please take a look at the help pages before continuing to create random junk on the wiki. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 15:13, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

those where just questoins152.22.44.26 (talk) 15:28, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Your upload

I saw your upload of Boo the cat. I thought you might enjoy the inimitable Hasil Adkins:

Bongolian (talk) 07:59, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

@Bongolian Thank you. I am a huge Hasil Adkins fan, though somehow I did not make the connection with Boo's name and the song until just now. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 16:27, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

I liked the Krusty the Clown template

What are you plans for it? I've seen another iteration you made of it in the sandbox. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 04:13, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

@LeftyGreenMario I saw your wonderful little Comic Sans template and mashed it up with the quote from the Concern troll article. Maybe it could be a new template. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 04:39, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh that was created by you, I just made changes to make it more themed like Krusty. Hence the clownish colors and the comic sans? You want me to do the same for the new one? --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 05:16, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Absolutely. Go for it. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 05:22, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Creepy link

That link with the words "homocide" and "rape" seems pretty scary. I'm too scared to open it, but I'm curious. Do you know where the link goes to? LongStylus (talk) 16:58, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

"The Homicide Monitor is the most comprehensive publicly available dataset on murder in the world." - run by something called the Igarapé Institute, apparently based out of Brazil. Not sure why that would be spammed. Queex_{chthonic murmurings} 17:13, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I worked up the nerve to open the link (which should have ".br" at the end) and it's actually pretty interesting. I thought it was some gore site. LongStylus (talk) 17:22, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

What I do in cases like that is type the URL directly into Google search - you get the first few lines of the page as a summary but no images and no possibility of hostile javascript running. A handy way to check something's legit before visiting directly. Queex_{chthonic murmurings} 17:34, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

That's a good tip for me to keep in mind. Thanks! LongStylus (talk) 17:47, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Hey

Do u have idea why Scream!! always calls people twats 2600:387:F:4814:0:0:0:2 (talk) 03:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I have no idea what the fuck you are referring to. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 03:14, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

When he calls every single user a twat 2600:387:F:4814:0:0:0:2 (talk) 03:15, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I still have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 03:16, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Scream%21%21&page=&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_tag_log=1 2600:387:F:4814:0:0:0:2 (talk) 03:18, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Why did you delete the new article?

Hi. It seems you deleted the new article citing issue with plagiarism. Could you please point me to the policy about this on Rationalwiki, and please let me know which parts are problematic for this reason and what changes need be made to be acceptable? I thought that it would be acceptable but seems I was wrong. Thank you. ^{— Unsigned, by: Paul4 / talk / contribs}

The article appeared to have been copy/pasted in large part from several other wiki sources on the internet. A simple internet search confirmed this. Because of copyright and licensing concerns, RationalWiki does not allow article content to be copied from other sources without proper attribution. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 13:42, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

I thought copying few small parts from wiki sources was allowed. How can I make proper attribution? But no worry, I will rewrite every sentence before writing again. --PauI4 (talk) 12:01, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

There's an ongoing discussion concerning this issue on the community standards talk page. It might be useful for you to read that. As for proper attribution, I suggest starting with the style manual. If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 14:22, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank You

I just wanted to thank you for contributing and editing the draft on the modal logics. There is some things I do not know quite how to do yet like collapsing citations, and I appreciate the contributions. - Only Sort of Dumb (talk) 00:26, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Hot Rat

As a fellow Zappa fan I was expecting you to rename the "cold rat" troll. I would do this myself, but I'm not a tech and I don't want to be. GeeJayK (talk) 01:18, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@GeeJayK That's a good catch. I didn't make that connection until you mentioned it. In any event, I only banned that pair of trolls for π days so it would be in poor form to rename them. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 16:05, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

A tragedy: “comfortably numb”, Vanless and Gilmourless

Have you heard this version of “comfortably numb”—this song was made for Van Morrison’s voice; the only fault of this version is the absence of David Gilmour. My God! If only we had Van Morrison’s vocals on the original version … in conjunction with Gilmour’s ecstasy-rendering solo …. Leucippus^{Salva veritate} 00:09, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Why are you reverting it

?--Spoony (talk) 00:40, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

oi

the guy u just blocked was also blocked on wikipedia for being a sock of andrew5

Vortex (talk) 16:44, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

I don't care what this person is or if he connects to another wiki or another editor here. If they run amok on this wiki, they get booted. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 16:50, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

true i just wanted to inform u about one of the socks Vortex (talk) 16:53, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Except it was impersonation. Also, Vortex, why do you want to track me down so much? --Andrew5 (talk) 20:59, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

I've edited this wiki for almost 6 years without being reverted

Until about 3 weeks ago. If it's your and GCs intention to revert everything I do from here on, without using the talk page, because of a grudge it's best just say so 2600:8806:0:C2:19E1:8C18:E69F:B80F (talk) 13:42, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Looks like GC banned himself though because no one can put up with his nonsense 2600:8806:0:C2:19E1:8C18:E69F:B80F (talk) 13:43, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Please keep the GC issue in ATIM. This is unnecessary.--2friedeggs (talk) 13:43, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

It's relevant because his hounding is the only reason i'm using IPs 2600:8806:0:C2:19E1:8C18:E69F:B80F (talk) 13:44, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

@Neiltyson1fan I did not revert your anonymous edits to Alfred_Kinsey because of any perceived conspiracy against you. I have no idea what in the fuck you are talking about. I reverted the edits because I found them to be of inferior quality. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 22:34, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Admittedly I don't entirely trust this guy. He seems to be a good faith editor but disliked GC enough to add me on Discord, at some point hint we should dox GC (Edit: No he didn't he clarified he wanted to figure out who GC was), and I suspect he's the guy making the surge of troll socks. I know GC angered some people but not even Andrew spewed vitrol like he did.--2friedeggs (talk) 23:54, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Ok no problem Neiltyson1fan (talk) 22:41, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

I have no interest in socks or whatnot, i edit my own wikis. Nor did I say I wanted to doxx anyone, or "figure out who" someone is, i merely speculated what he may have looked like and if he was super young or old. I'm actually having a nice weekend, so please enjoy yourself. I don't have the time nor energy to create RW socks Neiltyson1fan (talk) 01:24, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

I have a sock, but it hasn't been washed in a while. 🐐 (talk) 01:31, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Roy Moore brainstar

You forgot to preload the discussion template and add your desired vote. I fixed the template, but I'd recommend you to add the vote too (because otherwise there's no votes on the decision you wish to take). -- Techpriest (talk) 19:38, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Josip Broz Tito reverts

If you would kindly, please answer my genuine question. What's wrong with my edit? -212.15.178.21 (talk) 02:35, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Don't ban people over perceived sleights

People get away with spewing much worse garbage on here, and you know it. Get a grip or you'll be an ATIM case as soon as able.--3friedeggs (talk) 14:21, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Bring it on, Mr. Sock. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 14:27, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Please unprotect the talkpage

It's my talk page and the blank was a mistake. If you refuse at least put my grammar fixes and the BoN back with my reply to him. Or just target practice using this ip and block it too if you're feeling really proud of yourself idc--2A0B:F4C2:3:0:0:0:0:79 (talk) 15:59, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

You

Yeah sure I'm having a huge meltdown, stomping my feet right? And you put it in the logs Like I'm some lolcow you're trying to humiliate like a kiwifarmer?

You gonna be scornful and petty and undo perfectly good edits then either block my main indefinitely or get your mommy to do it for you so I can do better things with my time than deal with cynical teenagers. But I know you won't, I know you're having fun.--2A03:4000:10:A11:34D3:6FFF:FE24:6D91 (talk) 17:09, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Coop Notice

A case involving you has been raised at the Chicken Coop. Feel free to comment.

71.208.x.x (talk) 18:10, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

An apology

I did not notice you didn't disable talk pages. The new alts were both unnecessary and uncalled for. If 6 is not you though, someone is pulling a fast one on us. But I'm sorry.--2friedeggs (talk) 19:02, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Nazism

Why did you restore this obvious act of vandalism? Blobcat (talk) 13:01, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

That was a mistake. I've corrected it. Thanks. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 13:26, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Alexander Dahl's photo

See source of photograph: "The factual accuracy of this description or the file name is disputed." https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Erdkr%C3%BCmmung,_Alexander_Dahl_vom_31.8.1933.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Erdkr%C3%BCmmung,_Alexander_Dahl_vom_31.8.1933.jpg

This is even mentioned on the Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Dahl The problem is that the entire article has one inline citation. They even use 'alleged' to describe to photograph. -Cybby (talk) 19:00, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alexander_Dahl

"It's not possible to show the Earth's curvature that clearly at a height of 11,300m, which is the cruising altitude of modern airliners. The photograph most probably just shows barrel distortion caused by the lens. Also, the article is completely unsourced." ^{— Unsigned, by: Cybby / talk / contribs}

Confession

Dear Cosmikdebris, I must confess that the answer to your question is that I am a sockpuppet of User:Kiko4564. Since I'd imagine that you're pissed off with me, feel free to ban this account to. I've already removed my sysop and autopatrolled rights and LANCB'd. Thanks. By the way, once the block is over, do I get to return as a better behaved sock puppet? --Harry Potter (talk) 17:10, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Welcome back to the Board! See you at the next meeting. Spud (talk) 10:26, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Just wanted to let you know

Nice job on the Dick Hafer article. Rabbitseatcarrots (talk) 21:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

@Rabbitseatcarrots Thank you! —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 22:03, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Do you revert edits to feel important?

Or else why do you care to simply undo my revisions to an article that was horribly written, full of logical fallacies and sophomoric rhetoric? Are you here to make sure that articles continue to sound like they were written for high school book reports?

If you want to make an erroneous claim that my revisions are objectively so much worse that you can revert without comment, then you only prove you lack the intelligence necessary for your role on this wiki. ^{— Unsigned, by: 2603:8080:2202:35DB:6990:B9A9:9F79:6107 / talk / contribs}

Please, use the article's talk page if you want to dispute the article's content. Also, avoid insults, you might get banned. GeeJayK (talk) 13:18, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

why

it is unsourced ^{— Unsigned, by: 2804:14C:5B72:93B2:59F3:5B2:844C:73B3 / talk}

error

What does this mean?:

Your action matched the edit filter: Suspicious, massive change to article ^{— Unsigned, by: Pbrks / talk / contribs}

User rename

How do I rename a user? Some vandal came on the wiki with the username "Bill Clinton" and made a page that was a short blurb about poop, so I'd like to rename them to "Vulgar political joke" or "Incompetent Imposter" or something like that. --Luigifan18 (talk) 03:56, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

@Luigifan18 You have to be a mod or a tech to do that. Vomitorium (talk) 05:26, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

@Luigifan18 I tend to believe that user:Bill Clinton should not be renamed. The account is permanently banned now and its presence prevents future idiots from registering under that name. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 16:00, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks

I just got sysop like, 30 minutes ago and that shit kind of left me stumped with no idea of what to do, so thanks. ---Ozzyboo (talk) 20:13, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Just remember to go easy on the banhammer and you'll do okay. Rabbitseatcarrots (talk) 20:14, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Was my block justified, in that case? ---Ozzyboo (talk) 20:17, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

It was clearly a edit war, not really unjustified entirely, but I don't think I would have done that. I would have just sysop-protected for half an hour and drop the user a mention on the talk page, I wouldn't have blocked in my opinion. Rabbitseatcarrots (talk) 20:19, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Will keep in mind for the future, thanks. ---Ozzyboo (talk) 20:21, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

I wouldn't have blocked. I would've left a message on their talk page asking why they undid their own edits. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 20:37, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Usage of Anti-fascist sources in combatting Fascists

Hello.

I see that you have recently reverted an edit of mine which attempted to provide a source which would be further able to give the reader information needed to refute Facism.

This Anti-fascist source has no reason to be removed, as it refutes Fascism and explains how to better combat it. This source is in agreement with the Anti-fascist goals of RationalWiki. Wisconcom (talk) 02:54, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

I saw the edit summary… apparently you used a communist-leaning source. We're not too fond of communism around these parts, either. Extremism is bad, m'kay? It doesn't matter if it's far left or far right; those who stray too far from the center have a notable tendency to be absolute raving psychopaths whose very existence is a danger and menace to humanity.--Luigifan18 (talk) 03:01, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

@Wisconcom @Luigifan18 We are not "communist wiki." I stand by my decision to revert a questionable, obviously biased source on the Republican Party article. See RationalWiki:What is a RationalWiki article?. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 03:11, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

@Luigifan18 You make no attempt at understanding Communism, or even adress any of its ideas. Communists want to enpower the workers, end opression, etc. Perhaps you should understand Commmunism before you pull the "left-right" spectrum ideas. Thank you. Wisconcom (talk) 03:14, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

@Wisconcom What communists [claim to] want is very different from what they inevitably end up doing. Ever heard of the horseshoe effect? Ideologies that lean too far from the center of the political spectrum inevitably turn out to be very unhealthy for humanity, whether due to being outlandishly selfish to begin with or making a poorly-planned and foolhardy attempt to override the biases and instincts instilled in the human mind by aeons of evolution. Even the scientific method can't fully override cognitive bias, which is why it instead focuses on accounting for bias and minimizing its negative impacts on the honest pursuit of knowledge.

Socialism is viable because it allows for some level of individuality and self-interest; it merely keeps the latter on a leash. Communism is inviable because it attempts to turn humanity into something akin to a eusocial species in defiance of the simple fact that humans aren't programmed to think that way, dooming itself to failure. I dunno, maybe I'm pulling stuff out of my butt, but Western interference can't be the only reason why every nation that has attempted to practice communism has inevitably strayed from the path in some form or another, usually to the detriment of its citizens. --Luigifan18 (talk) 14:04, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

@Luigifan You bring up nothing but the same outdated, disproven, and nonexistant Anti-communist canards. "Totalitarianism" does not exist. It was first used to refer to the Soviet Union by Western propagandists to conflate Fascism with Communism. Further, literally every society in recorded history could be considered "Totalitarian". Think about it, you and I live in Capitalism; you are forced to toil and have your surplus value extracted to some rich Capitalist for a meager pay, you are, from the day you enter primary school till know, very much indoctrinated into worshiping Capitalism and refuting Socialism, you have megacorporations putting tracking devices in your pocket (smartphones), your internet usage is constantly viewed, and so on. The reason why Anarcho-Capitalists like you do not call the United States of America a "Totalitarian" state is because "well, the people who do this don't CALL themselves a GOVERNMENT, therefore, it's perfectly fine! Magic of the free market!". The Soviet Union was democratic, certainly moreso than the United States could ever even conceive; you could directly election your boss, members of the Communist Party, and so on. While you never use the term, you proceed to make a "human nature" argument. "Human nature", in the since that you Ancaps claim every human is a totally self-interested billionaire-in-waiting, has been debuked since the 1890s. The notion that "self-interest" somehow makes a society fuction more is logically absurd, it is by people working with each other the progress is made. Further, Communism is not just "hive-mind collectivism", rather, it would be an economic system were a person would be able to freely express themselves, be free of exploitation, and so on. In fact, for most of history, we have been living in a sort of Communism - Hunter-gatherer society. Are you saying that slaves and serfs epochs ago were "go-getter entrepreneurs"? Capitalism, if anything, goes against basic human fuctioning, it demands that everybody omit looking at collectives, care about themselves, kill their loved-ones for the sake of gaining a profit, etc. Wisconcom (talk) 14:26, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I don't think that's a very effective rebuttal. Perhaps a more effective rebuttal would be to point out that capitalism incentivizes greed and selfishness, so therefore capitalists use the conditions of capitalism to justify capitalism, so the conditions of capitalism aren't really that representative of human nature. Furthermore, horseshoe theory is also considered to be fringe science by most political scientists, or at least as having only marginal utility. (Also Luigifan18 seems to be confusing Marxism-Leninism with the wider communist movement. That's a very common mistake, but it's a mistake nonetheless.) Vee (talk) 15:16, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Rebecca Davis

I have to say, I'm a little suspicious of the account User:Rebecca davis. The user page looks like it's plagiarized from some E-list celebrity's Wikipedia article, complete with clumsy numbers in brackets that are clearly intended to be reference markers (i.e. it was copy-pasted from the page itself and not its source code). I haven't taken any action because I don't want to bite a non-malicious-but-clueless newcomer on account of nothing but a vague suspicion (and I must restate that, unlike some other cases where I have taken swift (if ultimately misguided) action, I'm not inclined to suspect malice in this scenario, even though I do suspect impersonation), but I really think that this matter should be investigated. --Luigifan18 (talk) 18:18, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, it's probably a fake bio spammer account. Let's wait a little while and see if they actually make any more posts. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 18:40, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

I have a Sphinx cat

His name is Moe. Your cats are adorable though. Vee (talk) 06:03, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Some BoN is weirdly obsessed with your mom's basement

No, really, the past 10 or so edits are somebody JAQing off about you living in your mom's basement, the nonsense being removed, the edit being reverted, that edit being reverted, and so on and so forth… the BoNs responsible were blocked by @King Bowser K. Rool, but I took the liberty of protecting this page just to be sure that the twat(s) don't immediately pick up where they left off when the block expires. (I was tempted to delete the edits in question just to be extra sure that the removal of the nonsense wouldn't be reverted again, but I ultimately decided that protecting the page and making another edit to it would suffice to lock the trolls out of the undo button.) [Sorry to any BoNs and brand-new users who really needed to talk to Cosmikdebris, but this is what happens when immature morons talk shit.] --Luigifan18 (talk) 02:15, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

I would have done that if the abuse would have continued while I was on, but just didn’t want to rush into protecting another user’s page. Vandalism is pathetic really. King Bowser K. Rool (talk) 00:47, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

I really don't care one way or the other. The trolls are easily and quickly reverted, and there's little to no discomfort to non-autoconfirmed users if the page is protected. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 01:23, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Mod elections

Can I promote GeeJayK to mod now? I want to be the one to do it. Rabbitseatcarrots (talk) 18:35, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

I don't see why not, as long as no one finds any bugs in my processing of the results. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 19:01, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Persistent vandal binning of Ledlecreeper27

Why did you put him back in the vandal bin? I viewed the sources he was using, and they were from sources which this site considers trustworthy. He is not "whitewashing", but rather he is using facts. Wisconcom (talk) 22:37, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

The collection of edits made to the various pages is controversial, and should be discussed on the talk page (as DuceMoosolini and Bongolian both noted earlier). —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 23:30, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Please remove what I said from your page

I was stressed out and was not thinking to my full capacity. I want to remove any trace of my involvement here. Please remove that quote. Wisconcom 22:32, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello!

Hi, sorry this is on short notice, but Board of Trustees member GeeJayK recommended I speak to you and/or @Spud about an issue I've been having.

Anyhoo, I'm trying to get a RW page that was archived on January 29, 2022--Saloon Archive Page 401--removed from web.archive.org since it contains slanderous content against me and a doxing of a friend's real name, posted by an unhinged troll who's been stalking me and a handful of my friends for three and a half years across various Websites without ceasing or desisting. It's enough to make anyone paranoid. The archive people did nothing since I don't own the page's address, so I was hoping you could intervene. No worries if you can't, but thanks for considering.

Also, if you need more details, I'll be happy to discuss them by email because, on this site, I'm trying to keep a low profile just in case the guy who tried to stir up unnecessary drama here is still watching.

All the best,

~HelpWantedImParanoid

Hi

You think it's ripe to "undraft" this and rationalize-wiki it? Cheers.Factorable (talk) 01:20, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

He's gone, you know

Permanently. Retired. I have no clue who "Andrew5mobile" is. Could it be someone impersonating our dear departed editor? Also that gif was appropriate. Nice touch. Vee^Meow? 03:55, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Revert at Roe v. Wade

Yes, I am actually serious about the edit. Restore my edit please. MayGodSaveUsAll (talk) 02:25, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

@Nope Rocket I know you have a lot on your plate already, but what are your thoughts on this revert: [3]? MayGodSaveUsAll (talk) 02:32, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

@Nope Rocket Oh my God, what's so hard about just saying "pregnant people". Like is it that hard to imagine a non-binary person who's pregnant? MayGodSaveUsAll (talk) 02:34, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, women aren't the only demographic that gets pregnant. Men, nonbinaries can too. Just as long as they have a uterus. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 02:43, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

I understand why you changed it to "pregnant people" and support a revision along those lines. I agree that articles should ideally be written in a manner inclusive of trans and non-binary people. I said that the overturning of Roe had taken "wrecking ball to women's healthcare" because edit summaries are character-limited and I wanted to convey the devastating impact on reproductive rights succinctly. But trans men and AFAB enbies are as impacted by abortion bans as cis women, and the article should reflect that. Nope Rocket (talk) 02:58, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Alt-right

I only added it to Davud Monshizadeh because someone else added it to SUMKA, so I assumed it should also have the category. Rational Dude (talk) 16:07, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

@Rational Dude I don't think SUMKA is alt-right either, and it looks like someone already removed that category. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 16:58, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I removed it. Rational Dude (talk) 17:05, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Sumka

I made a mistake with moving the page, but can it ever qualify having its own page when there’s enough information on it? I think that we need some separate pages on Iranian fascist movements Rational Dude (talk) 19:41, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Para-fascism

I thought I'd mention that some of the articles that were in the category were added by me, but I removed them because a lot of them didn't seem to fit the category or had much in common with actual fascism, like fox news, prageru, black brute, incel, ratfucking, and br3aking porn (just to name a few), while some groups are actual fascist groups, like the three precenters, the boogaloo boys, and the oath keepers. Rational Dude (talk) 00:35, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Message

Sorry about the mistake, I hope we're cool. I wanted to ask if you could help me with creating pages for meloni and lukashenko. Rational Dude (talk) 00:10, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Sure, if you have any questions about editing pages here, feel free to ask. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 00:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Will do! Rational Dude (talk) 02:06, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Creating a new category

Can I create a category for great replacement conspiracy theorists? I think they’re significant enough to warrant a category. Rational Dude (talk) 11:52, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

@Rational Dude I don't see why not, though I strongly recommend that you pose this question in the article's talk page to get community feedback before you proceed. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 11:57, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Of course, I'll do it right now. Rational Dude (talk) 12:07, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

I have made the category ←§ Edward the eight (talk) 12:08, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

I already made the category, and it's for individuals. Rational Dude (talk) 13:28, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Anti-Japanese

Would it be a good idea to create a category for anti-japanese racists for articles of Korean nationalists? Rational Dude (talk) 20:21, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Moving drafts

I'd like to move the draft for Raisi if that's alright. I think it's big enough. Rational Dude (talk) 21:12, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Iranian politics

I’d like to upload the flag to use on the category if that’s alright. Rational Dude (talk) 16:42, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

There's no need to upload a flag since one already exists in the wikimedia commons. Change the code to this:

|icon=Iran Flag.svg

—cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 17:01, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. But could we create a special icon for it like one for Indian politics? Rational Dude (talk) 17:53, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

@Rational Dude We could create a special icon for iranian politics, but given that there's very few articles in this category and no "iranian politics" navigation bar, I don't think there's a need for a custom icon now. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 19:28, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Sounds good. I’ll make and add more articles so it’ll grow enough and justify having its own category. Rational Dude (talk) 19:49, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Tu quoque

I'm not sure why IP editing is allowed if most IP edits are just reverted without question. Would you care to explain precisely what is wrong with this addition? 212.36.169.245 (talk) 11:07, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Two things

There are ip edits on some articles, and I have think they might be from a single user.

Can I create a category for capitalists? Rational Dude (talk) 18:50, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

@Rational DudeRegarding the IP edits, why should we care? If they are suspicious, they are usually speedily reverted.

I personally don't think we need a category for capitalists. It appears to way to broadly defined to be necessary.

I think you would be better served if your questions about creating categories and pages and whatnot would better serve you if you brought them up in the saloon so you can get community feedback. I do not speak for RationalWiki and my opinions may not necessarily reflect those of the majority of users here. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 22:11, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Alright, will do. Rational Dude (talk) 22:13, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Quick Question

Hello, you labelled the page I made for The Case For Israel a draft. Why is it one? What would I need to do in order to not make it listed as one? ^{— Unsigned, by: Ephrom / talk / contribs}

@Ephrom It's customary to create new articles in the draft space before they're moved to main so others get a chance to proof the work. That's why I moved it. But your recent additions have been of very good quality, so I don't see any reason why that particular article can't be demoted right away. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 22:38, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Sorry

I didn't see that the page was about 2022. GeeJayK^{Where all evil dwells} _{Where every lie is true} 19:49, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

No problem, the voting pages are very confusing. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 19:51, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Hey, do you know how to nominate an article which has already been nominated for deletion before?

I would really like an answer please and thank you. A somebody. (talk) 00:40, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

@A somebody. Yes. You can rename the new AFD to "RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Barrett Brown (second nomination)" and update the log to reflect the new name. I think that will work. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 00:43, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! A somebody. (talk) 00:44, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

I just checked and sadly it does not work, thank you for attempting to help me however. A somebody. (talk) 00:46, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Let me take a look and see if I can fix it for you. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 00:50, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

@A somebody. I got the process backwards; must rename the previous AfD. All fixed now. You may want to properly sign the delete line on RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Barrett Brown. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 02:13, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for tidying up my references on the Human Rights Watch page. I appreciate that that really should be my job in the first place and am slowly familiarising myself with the formatting. In the meantime, thanks again. Tikitime2 (talk) 21:07, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Assistance

On an edit I’m making for Sneako, Carthage constantly assumes I’m saying that every Muslim is right wing, but I never said anything of the sort. I just added a sentence saying that Muslims are generally right wing because they hold conservative views like opposition to gay marriage and women holding traditional family roles. I don’t want to get into an edit war, because Carthage is starting to get annoying. Do you think you could step in and stop this? Rational Dude (talk) 15:48, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

1) your claim is unsourced. 2) To assume that Muslims are "generally" right-wing would belie the existence of secular countries like Albania, Kosovo, and Bosnia and Herzegovina, or the viable existence of Islamic progressive movements that you keep ignoring. What's so controversial about "Islam is generally seen as right-wing" or "many Muslims hold right-wing views"? Carthage (talk) 15:51, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

I was literally saying that most Muslims are right wing. If you go on most internet spaces with Muslim communities, they’ll generally oppose lgbt rights and feminism. Rational Dude (talk) 16:00, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

If you go to most dedicated Christian spaces online they also tend to be reactionary. That says more about the political leaning of the members of those communities than it is a representative sample for the entire goddamned religion. Carthage (talk) 16:02, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Any community can have reactionaries, but if the reactionaries dominate that community, then they’ll be the de facto force controlling most of the religious activity. Also, you don’t have to curse. Rational Dude (talk) 22:38, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, the point is you cited the existence of purely reactionary communities online as if they're representative of the entire religion. They're not. You haven't demonstrated that. How can you say this represents the mainstay of the religion as opposed to one current when there are both viable progressive movements within even Islamist strongholds like Afghanistan and large, secular majorities in countries that identify as "Muslim" but don't follow any notion of sharia? Carthage (talk) 22:41, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

We already settled the misunderstanding, I was just trying to clarify my point and position on religious communities with reactionaries. Rational Dude (talk) 22:45, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Happy belated 11^th anniversary

Congratulations on having what it takes to not only stick around for 11 years, but also be a regular contributor throughout that time. Keep up the goat work! Spud (talk) 02:09, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Draftification of Green Day

@Cosmikdebris Greetings, I am WetWilly. I noticed you moved [4] my article Green Day to Draft:Green Day. Can I respectfully ask why you did this? WetWilly (talk) 16:51, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

@WetWilly It is common practice to move articles to draft space that don't conform to our community standards. Also, it is unclear what purpose this page will serve here. It doesn't seem to have anything to with our mission. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 18:11, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

"American Idiot" is kind of missional, though the draft only mentions it in passing. Other than that I don't know what would be. If someone wanted to make an article specifically about American Idiot I think it could pass the missionality test well. Chillpilled (talk) 09:30, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

aSK

I was wondering why this article still existed. In either case, it still stands to be improved. Carthage (talk) 03:02, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Yeah why does aSK and Wiki4CAM still exist? A somebody. (talk) 18:53, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

WikiIslam

Hey, I was looking over the history at WikiIslam and it looks like the single-purpose account who was edit warring with you to put a bunch of stuff into the article over the objections of other users came back restored his chosen version after the page protection you implemented expired, then immediately fucked off to never edit again.

I tried removing it myself, both as an IP and after creating an account, but it was blocked as a "potentially harmful action."

Tanaros (talk) 16:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Permission to add images

Can you please grant me permission to add images for an article I'm creating? DaRealPrinceZuko (talk) 01:58, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

VICTORY TO HAMAS block

I was in the process of blocking them myself as well. Lol. Lavalizard101 (talk) 19:52, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Mod notice

You've been nominated in the upcoming moderator elections. See the nomination at RationalWiki:Moderator elections/Nominations. -- Techpriest (talk) 20:36, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

hi

I've been on the board for over a year and there has never been a meeting. Are we going to ever have a meeting? ShabiDOO 12:29, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Voting

Are you ready to start up voting tomorrow? Bongolian (talk) 18:13, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@Bongolian I'll start the process today; have to contact those with server access. I'll update the election pages when I hear back from them. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 18:21, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

OK, thanks! Bongolian (talk) 19:04, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Just got your e-mail

I'm a bit in a hurry right now, so if I did something wrong, please correct me. GeeJayK^{Where all evil dwells} _{Where every lie is true} 19:36, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot to promote LGM and I can't do it anymore. I knew I was doing something wrong... GeeJayK^{Where all evil dwells} _{Where every lie is true} 19:52, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

@GeeJayK No worries, I took care of it. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 21:21, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

What is up with Trent and RMF succession

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that somewhat coincidentally, the Secretary of State of New Mexico is Trent’s sister, which means she would kind of be the first contact I would think of to contact for both “what’s up with Trent?” and, “how do we recover control of the RMF?” As the foundation is incorporated in New Mexico. I mentioned this to [User:David_Gerard] and he said to contact you, as you’re handling things. Although, I don’t have contact information or anything, I just happen know about the relationship. --Eira ^{OMTG! _{The Goat be Praised.}} 19:25, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@Eira Thank you for the information. I'll pass this along to the rest of the board of trustees for action. We are planning a meeting very soon to address this. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 20:07, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Why did you revert Atheopagan's edit?

It's a year to late, but I'm wondering about this revert. It seemed like a good faith edit from someone with first-hand experience in the subject. - Linneris (talk) 13:04, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Jeannette Rankin edit

Hey, apologies, I genuinely didn't mean for that to happen. I copied the defaultsort code from the Adolf Hitler page and must've not realised I forgot to change the last name there. Just wanna clarify that. (っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ Natsuki Marx ♥ (talk) 21:48, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

@Natsuki Marx No worries. I figured it must have been an inadvertent oversight. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 23:37, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Time loves a Cosmikdebris

- Rairyu75 (Talk) 23:10, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

I like how Mr. Poot is so dense he thinks “bald” is a satisfying, peak insult. And he still hasn’t realized our site’s not going anywhere. He’s so dense in fact, if you go near him for a few seconds you’ll be decades in the future. --Goatspeed. _{See what I'm up to}CircularRasoning^{See my experiments} 00:43, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Re: fundraiser

Hey Cosmik, you said you needed info about the fundraiser so you could make a report for the site to read? I have the activity report from PayPal all ready, so you can run whatever analysis you want on it (e.g. average donation size, small donations vs big donations, etc). Hit me up on Discord and I'll send you the file that way. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 20:11, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you

For archiving that first you-know-what-related SB conversation in the new archive. The whole thing in there was just so stupid. It feels good not having to scroll past that flame war. --Goatspeed. _{See what I'm up to}CircularRasoning^{See my experiments} 17:53, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Johns

Johns is trying to damage my credibility by linking me to From Nothing's channel for supposed Afrocentric propaganda without providing any evidence to back up his claims. Please tell him to stop. DaRealPrinceZuko (talk) 00:05, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

It may be noted

Yes, it may be noted that "it may be noted that" is a phrase empty of meaning. Good work! Bongolian (talk) 18:20, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

It maybe noted that it's turtles all the way down. Carthage (talk) 18:26, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Turtles have short legs. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 19:06, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

It may not mean anything in and of itself, but it can indicate that opinions on a subject may vary. --Luigifan18 (talk) 20:43, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Opinion on any given subject will vary, so no. Bongolian (talk) 21:16, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Some subjects (like, say, the value of religion) invite more difference of opinion than others. --Luigifan18 (talk) 23:29, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

So... the patrons of the Saloon Bar tell me you're a big Billie Eilish fan!

Never would have guessed you like this type of music. You're just full of surprises, ain't ya?

(I actually, unironically, have this on my playlist. Peace.) - Rairyu75 (Talk) 05:49, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Your secret has been exposed.

RIP. - Rairyu75 (Talk) 21:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Theocracy

So the future section was removed? Rational Dude (talk) 23:13, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

I don’t think a “future” section in this article is useful at all. If you want to conjecturalize about Zoroastrians and Buddhists, then perhaps an essay would be the place for it. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 23:21, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Will do. Just so you know, I wasn't the one who added the future section, it was already there. I assumed its placement existed for good reason. And I'd like to make an essay on Zoroastrians, Hindus, and other extant pagans. Rational Dude (talk) 23:28, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Reverting my deletion request for "What's Fair"

I tried to add "What's Fair" to RationalWiki:Articles for deletion, but you reverted my edits and told me, "learn how to use the AfD template", even though I was following the instructions given on RationalWiki:Articles for deletion. 131.194.201.239 (talk) 01:22, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Ramaswamy

I know you probably disagree, but I added the cult of personality section because I’ve seen a huge audience of Vivek that just defend him and don’t allow any criticism, like on YouTube and reddit. Should I restore it? Rational Dude (talk) 23:58, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

@Rational Dude The article you used as a reference for that paragraph mentions that "Ramaswamy has amassed a cult-like following among conservative voters..." but how much of that cult is left now that he's been thoroughly trounced in the primary season? Also, I didn't find any contemporaneous sources mentioning anything like a "cult of personality." —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 00:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@Cosmikdebris mostly on YouTube videos, including where he debates mainstream media figures and the comments are full of cultish brigading supporters. Rational Dude (talk) 00:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Neo-fascism

I was finding sources to add to the segment, may I please add it back and put in the citations? Rational Dude (talk) 23:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Never mind, I got to it. Rational Dude (talk) 19:41, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Luigifan18

Since you're removing luigifan's "mini-essays" I would like to point out that there is a very convenient list on his user page. Ioe bidome (talk) 22:28, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Be careful

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordfinder/classic/contains/all/-1/ken/1

Christopher (talk) 14:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Gingercat is a different user from Catgrrrl

Just FYI. Carthage (talk) 20:25, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

For the latter, see User:Catgrrl37-0, User:Catgrrl38, User:Catgrrl39 for earlier accounts. --ApooftGnegiol (talk) 20:36, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

OK, so can I revert that archiving. It was done out of a case of mistaken identity. The issue remains unresolved. Carthage (talk) 20:37, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

I think so, yes. --ApooftGnegiol (talk) 20:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

@Carthage @ApooftGnegiol Ok, I get it. Sorry for jumping the gun. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 20:47, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

For marking a troll page as patrolled and even editing it

Smash!

You've been squished by a whale!
Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something really silly.

Like WTF? That article was pretty much the opposite of what we do here Plutocow (talk) 00:32, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Why were the revisions suppressed? Was it doxxing? Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 00:51, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Was an article on a Wikipedia user that CBH (either a sockpuppet or meatpuppet of Emil Kirkegaard) had doxxed, so pretty much yes. It had details like their name and location. Plutocow (talk) 00:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

QAnon

I added the symbol to the front page since it was more relevant, and I wanted to have the previous image moved down to a better area of the page. Rational Dude (talk) 17:09, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

May I move it back? Rational Dude (talk) 18:09, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

@Rational Dude Sure. Just try this time to use the preview button before committing an edit with obvious rendering errors. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 18:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Apologies for any editing mistakes, it was not intentional on my part. I edit mostly on mobile and my dyslexia makes things difficult. Rational Dude (talk) 18:16, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Board nomination

Some guy nominated you or something. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 14:40, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

A thing you should look at

On the Board Discord channel, at your earliest convenience. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 19:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I will investigate. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 20:38, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Nassim Haramein

In the article Nassim Haramein, you replaced content with "

This article has been temporarily removed from the wiki due to legal action.

". But why? RationalThinker (talk) 20:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@RationalThinker Just what it says. I apologize in advance, but I am not going to comment publicly on this matter. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 20:56, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

I just asked what are the legal issues. And what did you mean by "I am not going to comment publicly on this matter"?RationalThinker (talk) 21:00, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@RationalThinker Ok. Sorry if I seemed so abrupt with the response. It seems that the named individual has initiated a lawsuit against the foundation for this page. Until we can formulate a proper response, I thought it would be proper to hide the page. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 21:03, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Ok no problem. When the issued would have been solved, just make sure to rewrite the article.RationalThinker (talk) 21:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Board meeting

The next Board meeting is 18 August at 1700 UTC on the Discord channel. We have an actually important topic this time, of which you are already aware. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 20:27, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

@DuceMoosolini It's in my calendar. I'll be there. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 20:35, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Redirect

I hope you don’t mind, but I deleted the redirect for Suharto since we agreed to have the article focus on himself rather than his family. Rational Dude enter thy lair 17:34, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

No worries. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 18:23, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Rational Dude enter thy lair 19:32, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for moving the article too btw, I didn’t know if I should’ve moved it myself without permission since I felt it might’ve been drastic. Rational Dude enter thy lair 13:46, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

My edit

I removed the “family rogues gallery” section because it’s not needed, it’s only about Suharto and it would fit better in a draft I could make for his children individually. So can I remove it? Rational Dude enter thy lair 18:13, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

I disagree that it’s not needed. Please do not remove it until any replacement article(s) are created and out of draft space. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 18:15, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Sure. Should I make one right now and put it there for convenience? Rational Dude enter thy lair 18:20, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

There’s no hurry. We are all volunteers here. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 18:35, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Ok. I just don’t feel that it fits for the page except for a brief mention. Rational Dude enter thy lair 20:52, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Request

Instead of removing the section, can I remake it to be smaller but still fit the article? A lot of the information doesn’t have much to do with Suharto himself. Rational Dude enter thy lair 00:16, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Umaru16

May I open an atim about him? He's become pretty problematic and sometimes downright annoying with his questionable edits. Rational Dude enter thy lair 02:00, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Actually, I think a block would be more sufficient. Rational Dude enter thy lair 17:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

@Rational Dude I am not a moderator. I suggest that you try to resolve any disputes on the subject article talk page, and if that is not successful, take the subject to the moderator notice board. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 21:26, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. Rational Dude enter thy lair 22:29, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Joseph Smith

The term “terrorist” typically refers to individuals or groups who use violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, to achieve political goals. Joseph Smith’s actions, particularly as the leader of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), do not fit this description. He was never convicted of terrorism. This is stupid. If you use the logic you are using anyone you want can be called a terrorist, you can call Joe Biden a terrorist. What is your argument for this? I know this website is a joke, but does this mean I can call Muhamid a terrorist? ^{— Unsigned, by: LuxembourgLover / talk / contribs}

@LuxembourgLover Read Killing of Joseph Smith and see why he is considered a terrorist. Also, see RationalWiki:What is a RationalWiki article? for more details on our purpose and point of view. Also, your statement "He is the prophet of the church" is superfluous. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 20:07, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

@Cosmikdebris Your links prove nothing, the Wikipedia article does not even mention the word “Terrorist” as for what a RationalWiki article, also shows nothing. So I once again say, from what I understand I can edit the Muhammad a terrorist, war criminal? I mean he married Aisha who was 7. ^{— Unsigned, by: LuxembourgLover / talk / contribs}

First of all, On talk pages, please sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the sign button: on the toolbar above the edit panel. You can also indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line. Thank you..

Just because the wikipedia article on his shenanigans in Illinois doesn't use the word terrorist, that doesn't mean his actions weren't considered terrorism. Obviously an editor here feels that these actions were egregious enough to consider him so. And please don't start chucking logical fallacies at me about Mohammed. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 20:20, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

No, he did not commit any terrorist acts, nor was he convicted or accused of terrorism. If you think what he did was bad, have you not seen what Mohammed did and the massacre of the Banu Qurayz? If you're going to call this basically a meme on Wikipedia, which I admit seems funny, you cannot just make fun of everyone else but when I mention expanding the meme to Mohammed, you get mad, and that's not good.LuxembourgLover (talk) 20:27, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Also so I can throw in a Wikipedia page too. I know Joseph Smith and the LDS Church is not perfect, but you are going to extremely far lengths in regards to criticism. ^{— Unsigned, by: LuxembourgLover / talk / contribs}

I strongly suggest that you take this discussion to the talk page. I have no strong stake in this argument one way or another. I do disagree with your edit replacing "self-proclaimed prophet" with "He is the prophet of the church". This is not wikipedia. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 20:41, 22 August 2024 (UTC)