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It’s been a while since I’ve taken notice of Vani Hari, a.k.a. The Food Babe, the misguided "food safety" activist who sees chemicals, chemicals, chemicals everywhere and raises fears about them all, especially the ones that she can’t pronounce.

Food Babe is the blog of activist/woo pusher Vani Hari (1979–), a professional troll who is best known for her campaign to get the chemical azodicarbonamideWikipedia removed from sandwich chain Subway'sWikipedia bread recipe. Hari might be best considered the Mike Adams of food activism. Unlike Adams, she doesn't rely on pure hysteria; she also trades on recipes and, as the title of her blog suggests, her looks, as well as the occasional stopped clock moment.

Hari is maybe not quite as dangerous as Joseph Mercola (who endorses her) or Mike Adams, but that's not exactly comforting. Her standards of evidence are based on total nonsense, and rather than promoting moderation, she mostly just wraps up obsessiveness and scolding in an apparently well-meaning package. Is she incompetent or a liar? Well, it doesn't really matter. Most of her "investigative" process can be summed up as either "Joseph Mercola said so, therefore spinning water in a blender really does make it healthier" or "if I can't pronounce it, it must cause cancer."

What's her deal?[edit]

The usual ration of nature woo nonsense. She's strongly anti-GMO, anti-vaccine, pro-organic, chemophobic, the whole works. She's a raw milk advocate and a nitrite basher. She bashes fast food so relentlessly that she clearly will eventually be caught in a compromising position with a Big Mac. She refuses to use a microwave oven because she's a fan of Masaru Emoto's water woo.[2][3] She's claimed that the pressurized cabins in airliners compress your internal organs, and that the cabin air can contain "up to 50% nitrogen."[4] (Waaay above the percentage in natural healthy ground-level air, of course.[5]) Essentially, she fancies herself a consumer advocate whose job it is to protect you from toxic food ingredients, with said toxicity determined by how scary or unfamiliar the name of the ingredient is. In reality she uses fear as a selling strategy. Her products mainly consist of items from companies she has a commission referral system in place with.

Ms. Hari demonstrates little to no dignity or humility when challenged by experts. A National Public Radio (NPR) article on 4 December 2014 covered her irresponsible tactics and was scathing as it identified her as a fear-monger.[6] In response, two days later, Ms. Hari wrote an essay to portray herself as the victim of corporate shills.[7] Of course, such accusations are absurd as NPR is a public media outlet by definition. Her effort was aimed at covering up her woo, misinformation and rampant censoring on social media where most engage her with scientific inquiry. In fact, respected and well-trained scientists have already refuted many of the claims she made in her essay on victimization including, for example, the fact that she did not stay for questions in a public lecture at the University of Florida.[8] Such rebuttals include scanned copies of letters from organizers and, not surprisingly, regret that Ms. Hari was ever invited in the first place.

On the other hand, it's possible that she's a good cook. Who knows?

Qualifications and training[edit]

Hari has a degree in computer science and worked as a management consultant.[9] The food thing appears to be a hobby that took off.

Case study: Exposing the beer industry Pat Pulling style[edit]

Learning how to make beer is not particularly hard. Any decent-sized bookstore will usually have a couple of books on brewing for sale, and although most beginner's books won't go too deeply into the science, you still learn enough to know the basics of what goes into a batch of beer and what happens to those ingredients as the process continues. Although the procedures differ from style to style and brewery to brewery, the basic process is always the same: take sprouted grain (usually barley), convert its starch into sugar, add flavorings (usually hops, sometimes other things like fruit or coffee), boil the resulting liquid (wort), then add yeast and ferment it. What you need to know is stupendously easy to find, including, for the better part of the last thirty years, on the Internet.[10] You would think that someone determined to discuss what goes into beer would bother to pick up a copy of Papazian[11] or even Homebrewing for Dummies[12] just to have some idea of how beer is made. Mmmyeah… no. In the time-honored tradition of Paul Brodeur, godfather of microwave hysteria, Hari decided to go straight for the jugular and assume the worst about the beer industry. What she "found" shocked her,[13] because she didn't bother to actually read up on any of this beforehand.

Yes, the business practices of large alcohol producers aren't much better than any other big company. But they still have to follow some pretty strict standards in most countries — in the US, their ingredients and even labels are scrutinized by the government, and operational cleanliness may actually be more important in brewing than it is anywhere else in the food industry, since it's easy for fermenting beer to become contaminated in an environment that generates lots of steam (as the brewing process does), and no brewer wants a tank turning to thousands of gallons of vinegar. She started with a pile of GMO fear-mongering, mostly revolving around corn and rice, which are common ingredients in American-style beers due to Americans' insistence on light, watery beers. She then ran down a list of ingredients, including MSG, corn syrup, propylene glycol, dyes, fish bladder gelatin, and carageenan, putting the worst possible spin on each one. Food historian Maureen Ogle took the article to a number of brewers and came away with a fairly thorough refutation:[14] the MSG and dyes simply aren't in there (although the yeast does provide a tiny amount of glutamate). The corn syrup (if it's used — many brewers start with cornmeal) is fermented down to alcohol, so both fructose content[15] and GMO origins are irrelevant. Propylene glycol is relatively nontoxic, and although it's used in certain flavoring compounds in soda, generally shouldn't be in beer (and if it is, it means the refrigeration coils in the brewery were leaking). Carageenan and isinglassWikipedia (the fish gelatin)? They're used as part of the clarification process to remove stray protein and haze,[16] and little or none of either remains in the finished beer. On top of all that, Hari, who is a wine drinker, claimed that brewers add sulfites to beer. They don't… but winemakers often do.

It is generally not a wise idea, when framing yourself as a consumer advocate, to put out information that is so easily discredited. Hari evidently doesn't care, and neither do her followers.

Yoga mats and bread[edit]

[T]he fact that azodicarbonamide is also, separately, independently, and for other reasons, used to make rubber shoes simply has no connection to the question. It's like saying that you shouldn't drink water because it is a powerful solvent used in the chemical industry to dilute acids.
—Theodore Gray

AzodicarbonamideWikipedia is used for a couple of purposes. It's used as part of making plastic foams (thus its reputation as the "yoga mat" chemical), and it's also used as an oxidizer and improver in wheat flour. It's illegal in some countries, but not in the US and Canada, where it's allowed at a level up to 45 ppm. It isn't terribly toxic; if you inhale it, there's a very good chance it will give you asthma, but in the concentrations found in commercial flour, this isn't really a concern. In addition, it breaks down during baking into the even less dangerous biurea, which is present in such small amounts that it's borderline homeopathic. It probably isn't something we need in our bread flour — if it concerns you, just buy unbleached flour — but as toxins go, it's only of concern to the people who manufacture it and the people who use it in plastics factories and grain mills, presumably people who already use respirators or masks as standard safety equipment. Hari decided that it had to go. After all, if a substance is used in an industrial process, it has to be bad for you to eat, right? (Please don't tell her about how soybean oil is used in printing ink and hydraulic fluid, ethanol is added to gasoline, baking soda is used to strip paint, vinegar can wash clothes, or the terrifying use of molten table salt in heat-treating steel.)

Her campaign led to Subway, the sandwich chain, pledging in March 2014 not to use it in their bread dough. Subway had already decided to remove it from their bread before the Food Babe's petition came along, for reasons unrelated to her accusations, but her campaign prompted them to announce this fact publicly.[17] This provided Hari with a stopped clock moment of sorts, but even then for all the wrong reasons; her campaign was based not on science but chemophobic scare tactics, and targeted the wrong part of the supply chain. While not a complete waste of time, there was a lot of effort expended for what, in scientific terms, was a very, very small victory. Presumably she will campaign against tofu next since it's made out of plaster and chalkWikipedia.

Airplane travel[edit]

In a post written in August 2011, Hari published a piece on commercial air travel and the dangers of doing so.[18]

In the piece, Hari contended that travelling inside an airplane increases pressure on the human body, alleging that internal organs shrink. In reality, the pressure inside an airliner's cabin is lower than the air pressure at sea level; it's "pressurized" in the sense that the pressure isn't as low as the actual air outside. Hari also comments that this compression makes cases of deep vein thrombosisWikipedia more likely, when in fact the opposite is true hence recommendation of compression stockingsWikipedia for those at risk.

She also stated: "The air you are breathing on an airplane is recycled from directly outside of your window. That means you are breathing everything that the airplanes gives off and is flying through." The implication is that you're breathing jet exhaust. This is false; in a turbofan-powered jetliner, the source for the compressed cabin air is an inlet inside the engines' bypass area. Air at that point has been scooped up from the incoming airstream before it's had a chance to mix with the exhaust.

She continued, "it’s mixed with nitrogen, sometimes almost at 50%" (air is naturally 78% percent nitrogenWikipedia). Most of Hari's claims are addressed on the websites of Boeing and Airbus.

This article has now been removed (rather than corrected) from the Food Babe website. A screen capture of the original article is available on[19]

Flu shots and microwave woo[edit]

See the main article on this topic: Anti-vaccination movement

As if scaring people away from eating totally safe food wasn't enough fun, in 2011 Hari sank deeper into pseudoscientific lunacy by questioning the use of flu shots. In a Twitter post in October of 2011 she made the outrageous claim that the flu shot was used as a genocide tool without linking to any evidence to back up the assertion.[20] The use of valid arguments and evidence was less important than writing on controversial topics and gathering as many lucrative clicks on her blogs as possible.

In 2012 she realised that writing about the formation of evil Hitler water crystals when water is microwaved would garner even more clicks and online profits. Like her article on airplane air, this article too is now deleted from her site.

Other campaigns[edit]

  • In March of 2013, Food Babe delivered petitions to Kraft Foods and made a speech decrying their use of artificial food dyes in their macaroni & cheese. She cited the European survey study[21] that claimed to find a correlation between artificial food dyes in general (no one specific dye was tested alone) and hyperactivity in children.[22] Kraft did eventually remove the artificial food dyes from its cartoon-character-shaped macaroni & cheese products (and will phase out artificial dyes from all their mac & cheese by 2016), but they swear it had nothing to do with Food Babe's petitions.[23]
  • In 2013, she helped Sarah Kavanaugh browbeat Coca-Cola and Pepsico into removing brominated vegetable oil from their drinks.[24]
  • In August of 2014, Food Babe attacked the Starbucks Pumpkin Spice Latte, on the basis of (among other things) class IV caramel color being a carcinogen, and that it contained "no real pumpkin." Never mind that "pumpkin spice" means the flavorings that are added to pumpkin pie and not the pumpkin itself.[25] By the same standard, Paul Newman's "Old Fashioned Roadside Virgin Lemonade" should be removed from the market because it doesn't contain any trace of old-fashioned roadside virgins. Perhaps the biggest issue? The caramel is listed as a Class 2B carcinogen, which is a category of chemicals that have not been linked to a single case of cancer.[26] They are (probably) safer for you than bananas, which are proven carcinogensWikipedia with a 1 in 200 million chance of killing you with cancer (and several orders of magnitude higher chance of killing you via choking or diabetes… or slipping on a peel).

Hari is an expensive "professional" nutritionist and scams many people from their hard-earned money while peddling healthy eating advice of which little is based on empirical evidence or what is in reality common sense.


See the main article on this topic: Hypocrisy

In the May/June 2015 issue of the Skeptical Inquirer (as well as regularly on his blog), Mark Aaron Alsip brought to light several claims Hari made on her blog with regards to commercial products, and how she promotes alternative products (and gets money by promoting them through a partnership with with the exact same ingredients:

  • Warning readers that aluminum in deodorants has led to breast cancer and Alzheimer's while her own recommended brand of deodorant still includes aluminum compounds.[27]
  • Warning readers that vitamin A in sunscreen causes skin cancer while skin care products advertised on her website still contain vitamin A.[28]
  • Warning readers about the above-mentioned artificial coloring in Starbucks' Pumpkin Spice Latte being a class 2B carcinogen while a skin lotion and a mascara she promotes both contain titanium dioxide, which is also a class 2B carcinogen.[29]
  • Warning readers of the use of artificial versions of ingredients, glucose sugar, and GMOs, while promoting a shampoo that doesn't contain the natural product it says it does, includes glucose, could possibly be made from GMOs, and on top of that includes a natural ingredient that is a known carcinogen, which is the only reason Hari gets clicks.[30]
  • Warning readers of beauty products containing siloxanes as some siloxanes are endocrine disruptors, while she promotes a mascara that contains cyclopentasiloxane.[31]
  • Warning readers of the use of potassium sorbate (a possible skin allergen) and sodium benzoate (when combined with vitamin C it produces benzene, a carcinogen) as preservatives in pre-packaged hummus, while the organic facial cleanser she advertised contains both potassium sorbate and sodium benzoate, as well as lemon peel which contains vitamin C.[32]
  • Warning readers of the dangers of agave nectar (and fructose in general) while advertising a chocolate bar containing raw agave nectar.[33]

Name calling and harassment[edit]

When dealing with criticism she is unable to defend against, she is known to play the Race card and gender card. In this way she over-generalises a huge chunk of her detractors as racist and sexist. This is despite the fact that many of her critics are women, apparantly a coven of rampantly sexist women.[34][35]

Sadly, these responses aren't without justification; just like too many women who dare say anything on youtube, she has been attacked with misogynist slurs such as "slut", "bitch", "cunt", and received rape threats,[36] death threats and the other standard pond swill that emanates from social media.[37][35]

See also[edit]

External links[edit]


  1. "Given that food is made of chemicals, I wish her good luck surviving living by that particularly dumb adage.", Respectful Insolence 2.12.15.
  2. Vani Hari. Why It’s Time To Throw Out Your Microwave. Food Babe. 2012 July 30. The article got taken down on 10-Nov-2014, but is archived here.
  3. Why It's Time To Throw Out Your Microwave, an article that has been strangely removed from her website and blocked from the Internet Archive; snapshot here
  4. Food Babe Travel Essentials – No Reason to Panic on the Plane!; archived since the original was removed.
  5. 78.1%
  6. Is The Food Babe A Fearmonger? Scientists Are Speaking Out
  7. Food Babe Scam: My Response To The Attacks On Me and Our Movement
  8. Vani Hari (Food Babe) and Silencing Critics
  10. Online brewing culture predates September 1993 (known to old timers as "the September that never ended" and the unofficial beginning of modern net culture) by nearly a decade, going back to the early days of Usenet. Today, try the American Homebrewers' Association for starters. and are also very useful.
  11. That is, The Complete Joy of Homebrewing, 3rd Edition by Charlie Papazian, ISBN 978-0060531058; considered the standard first text for American homebrewers.
  12. Nachel, Marty, Homebrewing for Dummies, 2nd Edition, ISBN 978-0470230626
  15. And normal corn syrup doesn't even have any fructose in it!
  16. And going with the kind of appeal to tradition/nature so popular in these kinds of food woo circles, isinglass is not only completely natural, but has been used for centuries to clarify beer. So, apart from preventing vegans from enjoying a pint Guinness (meh, their loss) it's hardly anything to get up in arms about.
  17. Subway owners fight back against "Food Babe", 26-Feb-2014
  18. Hari, Vani (August 23, 2011). "Food Babe Travel Essentials – No Reason to Panic on the Plane!". Retrieved November 11, 2014. 
  20. [1], Twitter post, 6-Oct-2011; now deleted — see archive copy
  21. The study in question: Food additives and hyperactive behaviour in 3-year-old and 8/9-year-old children in the community: a randomised, double-blinded, placebo-controlled trial, The Lancet, vol. 370 issue 9598, 3-9 Nov 2007, pp. 1560–1567
  22. Kraft Petition Delivery Speech Transcript
  23. Kraft to remove artificial dyes from three macaroni and cheese varieties, The Guardian, 31-Oct-2013
  24. The Food Babe actually made orange Gatorade less healthy. Here’s how., Visible Friends Network, 19-June-2014
  25. You’ll Never Guess What’s In A Starbucks Pumpkin Spice Latte (Hint: You Won’t Be Happy)
  26. [, Food Babe is full of Shit, Gawker]
  27. Mark Aaron Alsip, "Food Babe Pushing “Dangerous” Items: Naturally Fresh Deodorant", Bad Science Debunked
  28. Mark Aaron Alsip, "Food Babe Selling “Dangerous” Items: Tarte Blush", Bad Science Debunked
  29. Mark Aaron Alsip, "Food Babe Pushing “Dangerous” Items: Physician’s Formula Organic Wear", Bad Science Debunked
  30. Mark Aaron Alsip, "Food Babe Pushing “Dangerous” Items: Honeysuckle Shampoo", Bad Science Debunked
  31. Mark Aaron Alsip, "", Bad Science Debunked
  32. Mark Aaron Alsip, "Food Babe Pushing “Dangerous” Items: Avalon Organics Repair Milk", Bad Science Debunked
  33. Mark Aaron Alsip, "Food Babe’s Hypocrisy Grows. Who Gives a Sh*t? Agave Sh*t!", Bad Science Debunked
  34. Food Babe plays race, sexist shill cards from “Deck of Deflection”
  35. 35.0 35.1 Food Babe Scam: My Response To The Attacks On Me and Our Movement
  36. Fun Fact! Even Awful Women Don’t Deserve Rape Threats
  37. Food Babe: A Bitch by Any Other Name. TD;DR: "These slurs undermine the valuable and credible arguments against Food Babe’s pseudo-scientific agenda."